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    2010 Hope Race X2 brakes

    Looks like hope is releasing a new XC brake.

    Race X2, replaces the X2 Mini Pro

    estimated at 270g per end. Maybe not the lightest, but probably going to be one of the most reliable.

    I think I found the 2010 upgrade I want to do... Replace the Avid Juicy Ultimates on my Kona Hei Hei Supreme. The avids have been finiky and I've had to rebuild both levers already... The Hope X2 Mini Pro I have on the lynskey always works. No fussing around required. They bleed using the gravity method rather than stupid syringes.






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    270 per end? Isn't that even lighter than Formula R1?

    Hope stuff is solid. I'm sure they'll be a nice upgrade.
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    what did the minis weight that you have? im getting ready to buy the X2s like you have but may splurge for these new ones.

    any idea what they may run yet?

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    Here were my weights for the 2009 Hope X2 Pro
    2009 Hope Mini X2 Pro Weights and Pics

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    Any idea of price yet? These look really nice!

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    That "honest weight of 270g" is including rotor or not?

    It's nice they're quoting honest weight unlike their rear hub that's 22g over...
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    Just got this information from CRC:

    "I have spoken to the brand manager for Hope and he told me that 2010 stuff has not started production yet. Hope has told us they anticipate having the stems and brakes ready for January, however, this is not a definite date."

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    well im glad i saved the 200 bux and the 2 more months of waiting and bought the mini pro x2s friday

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    these brakes are being released next week!! although because hope have been waiting for carbon leved to be produced for so long they have produced their own alloy levers and reservoir caps. they claim that the weight is about 2 grams heavier and the price of the brakes have gone down by £5 per brake. saw the alloy levers today and they look and feel nicer than the carbons anyway. hope and looking to release the carbon levers at a later date and match makers are on their way soon too.

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    I rode a demo bike with these on today here in the uk, felt absolutely superb. I am only used to xtr v- brakes though, so i don't know how much my opinion counts! And can confirm the levers and the cap are in alloy at the moment.

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    booo! 5 british pounds cheaper for alloy lever and alloy cap? WTF? I'm willing to bet those things when purchased separately after the fact would cost 40 british pounds.

    that is BS!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cheers!
    booo! 5 british pounds cheaper for alloy lever and alloy cap? WTF? I'm willing to bet those things when purchased separately after the fact would cost 40 british pounds.

    that is BS!

    yep i was thinking the same thing. i still havent mounted my mini pros and was thinking about selling them to fund the races but without the carbon bits, i really just dont see the point when i like the look of the pros over the black races.

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    i bet they will be expensive. oh well hopefully i should have a set at the end of the week and i'll post a pic up of them. glad they are black - the pros are nice but i didnt like the colour of them.

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    I too have a pair on back order and hope to have them by the end of the week. I was initially disappointed to hear they had ditched the carbon but I can live with 2g extra. They tell me that the new levers have a much better feel than than carbon and have been milled to be the lightest they have made.I suppose they would say that though.: I will be very happy if they come in at the claimed weight. They are replacing my mono mini's and will shave around half a pound off the bike and I know they will be great. I have great faith in their stuff and compared to the mainstream competition they are a good price

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    I'm sure you won't be disappointed! The alloy levers look sweet!

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    Impressive weight but I like the hope minis aesthetics mo betta

    I wont be swapping mine just yet


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    Matter of opinion there but your res caps look cool. Nice bit of weight weenieism done there. I'll be looking to do something similar with the races, it might take some time because they are so new though.

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    http://www.fibre-lyte.co.uk/

    they made the reservoir caps

    I would say they were made popular first by Cheers!

    I had never heard of them before he put em on his

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    I wonder if they'll make me some? I can't be without my brakes if I have to send them a cap to copy though

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    They have hope's and shimano as stock items.

    Its really for the bling factor....they save about 2g
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    Ill have to see if the caps are the same when I get my brakes then.

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    Are there any pictures of this new Race X2 with the aluminium lever and cap?
    I want to buy this brakes, but no carbon lever! Have to see how they look like.

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    Only pic I could find was this

    http://www.universalcycles.com/shopp...e.php?id=34130

    not the best pic but they do look great in the flesh

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    Thanks for the pic.
    Those levers look cool and this time having anything painted in green. Also I'm not a fan of too much carbon.
    Just have too chose between buying now or wait for carbon...

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    I can't wait to purchase a set of these. I do wish they made them in silver instead of black like the Tech X2's but whatever, I am just happy its not another generation of that horrible teal colour.

    I have been eyeballing these based on Cheers' recommendations for the last little while. I'll probably wait for the carbon levers since my frame is still at the frame builder. Can't wait to try these puppies out.

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    Another photo from Google. Looks like alloy levers and alloy cap in this as well:


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    Are they shipping yet? Anybody have them? I like my Formula R1s, but they are pretty finicky. I bet these are more user friendly. Hope stuff generally is no fuss!
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    So, how are they comparing to R1's in terms of weight? R1 is 270g. including 160mm rotor, bolts ect. right?

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    I heard 275g including rotors, lines and hardware, but no one seems to have actual weights yet since it would see that they aren't in stock anywhere quite yet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pernfilman
    Impressive weight but I like the hope minis aesthetics mo betta

    I wont be swapping mine just yet

    I am looking at the new ones, and I am thinking the same thing. I like the mini x2s better. I might have to go buy a set to make sure I have them for a build later this year.

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    Great, as long as it's in that area it's all good I had a chat with a UK dealer and he said I could get a pair in a month's time from now.

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    I've just had a call from my LBS to say my Xc races have just come in. Sadly I won't be able to pick them up/have them fitted until Monday due to work. The shop owner says that they look the nuts and the levers are beautifully machined with a few hoes drilled to lose even more weight. He says that they are totally different to the x2 pro levers and the calipers have been machined back even more. I will weigh them before they go on and post a review asap. I have gone for 160mm rotors front and rear. I have had these on back order since early November

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    What a tease making us wait till Monday

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    ^ ohhhhhh awesome! Looking forward to actual weights and pics

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    The weights on a UK website are 268g with a 160mm 3 bolt rotor and 284g with a 160mm 6 bolt floating rotor. If you cut the cables shorter I guess this is reduced a bit.

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    Looks like the Hope site is quoting 275g. Maybe that's with 6 bolts.
    http://www.hopegb.com/page_mep_force_70.html

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    I believe that is for a 6 bolt rotor in 140mm.

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    lbs just called.....MY BRAKES ARE HERE!!!!!! i'm off to hopefully weight and fit them. pics up later today!

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    here is a pic. on a scale, its an 160 mm disc.

    http://www.bikeboutique.eu/site/asso...x2-remmen.html

    they do look great !

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    thats the weight of a rear.

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    Quote Originally Posted by huckandcrash
    thats the weight of a rear.
    Unless the levers have been changed over..that s a front brake (UK wise anyway).

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    I'd say that is a rear judging by the amount of hose wound up.

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    well its a german site!! i would presume that its a rear.

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    Its is a rear, the site says that is a rear brake, with filled oil. And that other brands show there weight with a front brake without oil......

    Any more info about prices ?

    @huckandcrash

    Its a dutch site, its very dangerous to call it german...

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    sorry!! its all german to me. price £190 each.

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    I look forward to your pictures and weights before I get mine on Monday . The 295g weight on the Dutch site with a full length rear cable and oil is pretty impressive. The front should be a fair few g lighter and the rear when trimmed will also go on a diet

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    I wonder how long it will be until Hope gets the carbon levers thing fixed up. Will they eventually sell them out of the box with carbon levers in the next couple months or so once that is resolved, or is it going to be an upgrade?

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    They will sell them with alu levers en topcap......the carbon levers and topcaps will come later as an upgrade kit. I don't think it wil save much weight, and I like the alu cnc look !

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    I'm still waiting for Hope to pull their finger out and release their 'Matchmakers' for XTR shifters

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