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    2010 Hope Race X2 brakes

    Looks like hope is releasing a new XC brake.

    Race X2, replaces the X2 Mini Pro

    estimated at 270g per end. Maybe not the lightest, but probably going to be one of the most reliable.

    I think I found the 2010 upgrade I want to do... Replace the Avid Juicy Ultimates on my Kona Hei Hei Supreme. The avids have been finiky and I've had to rebuild both levers already... The Hope X2 Mini Pro I have on the lynskey always works. No fussing around required. They bleed using the gravity method rather than stupid syringes.






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    270 per end? Isn't that even lighter than Formula R1?

    Hope stuff is solid. I'm sure they'll be a nice upgrade.
    Rigid bikes FTW!

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    what did the minis weight that you have? im getting ready to buy the X2s like you have but may splurge for these new ones.

    any idea what they may run yet?

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    Here were my weights for the 2009 Hope X2 Pro
    2009 Hope Mini X2 Pro Weights and Pics

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    Any idea of price yet? These look really nice!

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    That "honest weight of 270g" is including rotor or not?

    It's nice they're quoting honest weight unlike their rear hub that's 22g over...
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    Just got this information from CRC:

    "I have spoken to the brand manager for Hope and he told me that 2010 stuff has not started production yet. Hope has told us they anticipate having the stems and brakes ready for January, however, this is not a definite date."

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    well im glad i saved the 200 bux and the 2 more months of waiting and bought the mini pro x2s friday

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    these brakes are being released next week!! although because hope have been waiting for carbon leved to be produced for so long they have produced their own alloy levers and reservoir caps. they claim that the weight is about 2 grams heavier and the price of the brakes have gone down by £5 per brake. saw the alloy levers today and they look and feel nicer than the carbons anyway. hope and looking to release the carbon levers at a later date and match makers are on their way soon too.

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    I rode a demo bike with these on today here in the uk, felt absolutely superb. I am only used to xtr v- brakes though, so i don't know how much my opinion counts! And can confirm the levers and the cap are in alloy at the moment.

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    booo! 5 british pounds cheaper for alloy lever and alloy cap? WTF? I'm willing to bet those things when purchased separately after the fact would cost 40 british pounds.

    that is BS!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cheers!
    booo! 5 british pounds cheaper for alloy lever and alloy cap? WTF? I'm willing to bet those things when purchased separately after the fact would cost 40 british pounds.

    that is BS!

    yep i was thinking the same thing. i still havent mounted my mini pros and was thinking about selling them to fund the races but without the carbon bits, i really just dont see the point when i like the look of the pros over the black races.

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    i bet they will be expensive. oh well hopefully i should have a set at the end of the week and i'll post a pic up of them. glad they are black - the pros are nice but i didnt like the colour of them.

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    I too have a pair on back order and hope to have them by the end of the week. I was initially disappointed to hear they had ditched the carbon but I can live with 2g extra. They tell me that the new levers have a much better feel than than carbon and have been milled to be the lightest they have made.I suppose they would say that though.: I will be very happy if they come in at the claimed weight. They are replacing my mono mini's and will shave around half a pound off the bike and I know they will be great. I have great faith in their stuff and compared to the mainstream competition they are a good price

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    I'm sure you won't be disappointed! The alloy levers look sweet!

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    Impressive weight but I like the hope minis aesthetics mo betta

    I wont be swapping mine just yet


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    Matter of opinion there but your res caps look cool. Nice bit of weight weenieism done there. I'll be looking to do something similar with the races, it might take some time because they are so new though.

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    http://www.fibre-lyte.co.uk/

    they made the reservoir caps

    I would say they were made popular first by Cheers!

    I had never heard of them before he put em on his

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    I wonder if they'll make me some? I can't be without my brakes if I have to send them a cap to copy though

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    They have hope's and shimano as stock items.

    Its really for the bling factor....they save about 2g
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    Ill have to see if the caps are the same when I get my brakes then.

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    Are there any pictures of this new Race X2 with the aluminium lever and cap?
    I want to buy this brakes, but no carbon lever! Have to see how they look like.

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    Only pic I could find was this

    http://www.universalcycles.com/shopp...e.php?id=34130

    not the best pic but they do look great in the flesh

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    Thanks for the pic.
    Those levers look cool and this time having anything painted in green. Also I'm not a fan of too much carbon.
    Just have too chose between buying now or wait for carbon...

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    I can't wait to purchase a set of these. I do wish they made them in silver instead of black like the Tech X2's but whatever, I am just happy its not another generation of that horrible teal colour.

    I have been eyeballing these based on Cheers' recommendations for the last little while. I'll probably wait for the carbon levers since my frame is still at the frame builder. Can't wait to try these puppies out.

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    Another photo from Google. Looks like alloy levers and alloy cap in this as well:


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    Are they shipping yet? Anybody have them? I like my Formula R1s, but they are pretty finicky. I bet these are more user friendly. Hope stuff generally is no fuss!
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    So, how are they comparing to R1's in terms of weight? R1 is 270g. including 160mm rotor, bolts ect. right?

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    I heard 275g including rotors, lines and hardware, but no one seems to have actual weights yet since it would see that they aren't in stock anywhere quite yet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pernfilman
    Impressive weight but I like the hope minis aesthetics mo betta

    I wont be swapping mine just yet

    I am looking at the new ones, and I am thinking the same thing. I like the mini x2s better. I might have to go buy a set to make sure I have them for a build later this year.

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    Great, as long as it's in that area it's all good I had a chat with a UK dealer and he said I could get a pair in a month's time from now.

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    I've just had a call from my LBS to say my Xc races have just come in. Sadly I won't be able to pick them up/have them fitted until Monday due to work. The shop owner says that they look the nuts and the levers are beautifully machined with a few hoes drilled to lose even more weight. He says that they are totally different to the x2 pro levers and the calipers have been machined back even more. I will weigh them before they go on and post a review asap. I have gone for 160mm rotors front and rear. I have had these on back order since early November

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    What a tease making us wait till Monday

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    ^ ohhhhhh awesome! Looking forward to actual weights and pics

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    The weights on a UK website are 268g with a 160mm 3 bolt rotor and 284g with a 160mm 6 bolt floating rotor. If you cut the cables shorter I guess this is reduced a bit.

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    Looks like the Hope site is quoting 275g. Maybe that's with 6 bolts.
    http://www.hopegb.com/page_mep_force_70.html

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    I believe that is for a 6 bolt rotor in 140mm.

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    lbs just called.....MY BRAKES ARE HERE!!!!!! i'm off to hopefully weight and fit them. pics up later today!

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    here is a pic. on a scale, its an 160 mm disc.

    http://www.bikeboutique.eu/site/asso...x2-remmen.html

    they do look great !

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    thats the weight of a rear.

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    Quote Originally Posted by huckandcrash
    thats the weight of a rear.
    Unless the levers have been changed over..that s a front brake (UK wise anyway).

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    I'd say that is a rear judging by the amount of hose wound up.

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    well its a german site!! i would presume that its a rear.

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    Its is a rear, the site says that is a rear brake, with filled oil. And that other brands show there weight with a front brake without oil......

    Any more info about prices ?

    @huckandcrash

    Its a dutch site, its very dangerous to call it german...

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    sorry!! its all german to me. price £190 each.

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    I look forward to your pictures and weights before I get mine on Monday . The 295g weight on the Dutch site with a full length rear cable and oil is pretty impressive. The front should be a fair few g lighter and the rear when trimmed will also go on a diet

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    I wonder how long it will be until Hope gets the carbon levers thing fixed up. Will they eventually sell them out of the box with carbon levers in the next couple months or so once that is resolved, or is it going to be an upgrade?

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    They will sell them with alu levers en topcap......the carbon levers and topcaps will come later as an upgrade kit. I don't think it wil save much weight, and I like the alu cnc look !

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    I'm still waiting for Hope to pull their finger out and release their 'Matchmakers' for XTR shifters

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    It shouldn't be too long and they will anodised black too!! I saw a set of pre pros and they look cool...for a matchmaker

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    They look super! Question, do they come with IS adapters?

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    Yes they do

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    I have now had the brakes fitted and weighed them when they were filled with oil and bled. The rear brake hose came a little short for my bike and had to be made longer.
    The front brake came in at 283g, this included everything with the rotor which is a 160mm and oil.
    The rear brake once lengthened and bled came in at 294g, again including the a 160mm rotor and oil.
    The IS adaptor weighs 16g.

    I have only ridden up and down the road so far but the brakes feel good, but I hope to get out on a proper ride later when I can post an early review. I have saved around 250g over my outgoing Hope Mono mini's. I just hope these perform as well.
    These brakes look brilliant, a really great design and if looks were everything, they are the best out there, performance, we'll see. I have posted some pictures below, not the best quality, but you get the idea.

    2010 Hope Race X2 brakes-2010-stumpy-bike-shots-021-medium-.jpg
    2010 Hope Race X2 brakes-2010-stumpy-bike-shots-022-medium-.jpg
    2010 Hope Race X2 brakes-2010-stumpy-bike-shots-024-medium-.jpg
    2010 Hope Race X2 brakes-2010-stumpy-bike-shots-025-medium-.jpg
    2010 Hope Race X2 brakes-2010-stumpy-bike-shots-026-medium-.jpg

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    That's one set of sweet brakes. Nice bike as well

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    does anyone know what the weight of the rotors are? Are they using the ultra lite rotors that are ~75g (160)?

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    After seeing these pics I think the R1s are definitely nicer looking, but I'll bet the Hopes are less fiddly.
    Rigid bikes FTW!

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    Quote Originally Posted by elbardo
    does anyone know what the weight of the rotors are? Are they using the ultra lite rotors that are ~75g (160)?
    I weighed the rotors and they are the Ultralite ones, it was 78g for my 160mm.

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    Where do I pick up some HOPES?!

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    Ive just bought from here http://www.cyclesportsuk.co.uk/index.php?cPath=446

    Best price i could find they didnt have the 6 bolt ones in stock but said they would order them and i should have them i 1 week

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    Universal Cycles in Portland Oregon (so no tax for peeps in CA) just let me know they have them instock today

    ...UC will price match if you can google a cheaper price for them

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    Quote Originally Posted by culturesponge
    Universal Cycles in Portland Oregon (so no tax for peeps in CA) just let me know they have them instock today

    ...UC will price match if you can google a cheaper price for them
    I was about to post this info as well, got the same in-stock email

    I don't think UC will pricematch this time because they state "rock bottom price" on the product page. It's 272 dollars, which is a good price. Speedgoat (when they get them in stock) is going to sell them for 346 and when CRC get's them they will be 271.

    The only cheaper place is Cyclesport UK which is 242 (shipped), compared to 282 for UC shipped (UPS ground), so $40 difference, but I rather order from place in Oregon than UK.

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    there is a price match!

    i wrote to Mike @ Universal Cycles to tell him that the spec was wrong for the Hopes "Carbon lever blade and reservoir cap "

    he replied that they don't have them yet (so perhaps premature with the instock notice? !!)

    still, i'd rather purchase expensive items @ UC than at another DB bike shop

    there's also a discount code:
    For 10% off orders over $100.00, use coupon code vip10
    For 15% off orders over $300.00, use coupon code vip15

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    Sounds from the example on here that they arent much lighter than the old "pro' version.

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    Quote Originally Posted by culturesponge
    t

    there's also a discount code:
    For 10% off orders over $100.00, use coupon code vip10
    For 15% off orders over $300.00, use coupon code vip15
    Coupon codes don't work for these brakes.

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    hi guys, was abt to place an order from cyclesportsuk. Just a question before i proceed, would the 3-bolt design rotors fit the conventional 6-bolt hub? (I'm using tune KK btw...)
    thank u

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    Yes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cadre
    hi guys, was abt to place an order from cyclesportsuk. Just a question before i proceed, would the 3-bolt design rotors fit the conventional 6-bolt hub? (I'm using tune KK btw...)
    thank u
    I rang hope direct about this last week. They said the 3 bolt version was specifically for their own 3 bolt hub and wheel. Three bolts on a six bolt of course could work but not ideal if the bolts even line up, which they should.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Soya
    Yes.
    Are you sure? The pictures tell a different story:

    http://www.hopegb.com/photos/whspxc3T.jpg

    http://www.hopetech.com/Reviews/st%2...els%20sept.pdf

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pete N
    I rang hope direct about this last week. They said the 3 bolt version was specifically for their own 3 bolt hub and wheel. Three bolts on a six bolt of course could work but not ideal if the bolts even line up, which they should.
    Pete N, doing my nut not having any UK parts on stumpy. i await eagerly your review (although lack of 180 front may mean they go on race bike, which is fitting i suppose :-)).
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    DParry. They are some serious bikes you have there, very nice.

    For anyone who is interested, here is an early review of the new Hope brakes. I have had six good rides on them now but I can only really compare them to my outgoing Hope mono mini's so the review may not be of great value but I have to say that I am very impressed. The main differences I have noticed are much less squeal, a better feeling/feedback through the lever and what has surprised me most is better stopping power.
    The brakes run very freely and by that I mean that they don't rub on the rotors at all, even though the clearance is fairly minimal.The floating rotors are thinner and so far are running very true. The levers are very well designed and perfect for 1 or 2 finger braking and the feedback you get through the lever is fantastic. You can tell exactly where you are with your braking and what you have left. The lever action is consistent with no spongeiness, even less than the mono mini's. The brakes do squeal very slightly when wet but only for the 1st second or so of braking and from then on they are silent, even in mud and rain. It's as though the first disc rotation dries everything off and then silence. The squeal is so much less than the mono mini's and in the dry they are completely silent.
    Now the stopping power is what has impressed me most, with such a small caliper. They stop quicker in every way than the mono mini's and I weigh a pretty average 180lbs, the pad contact area is about the same as the mono mini's. I ride in a hilly but not mountainous area so can't say how they would be in the Alps, but around here with some good descents and drops they are fantastic. I am impressed and am confident that they will be maintenance free, like most Hope stuff and the old mono mini's. Hope stuff is so easy to use and is bullet proof, and at the price and weight they would be hard to beat. I paid £320 for the pair through my LBS.

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    Thank you Pete n

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    Hi PeteN, good review, thanks! i was hoping it would be good and was! i've been off racing for a few weeks and great to catch back up with folks.

    looking at a HT xc race bike now and 160/140 of these puppies is top on my list.

    anymore feedback keep it coming.
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    [QUOTE=Pete N]DParry. They are some serious bikes you have there, very nice.

    "For anyone who is interested, here is an early review of the new Hope brakes.."

    Pete,
    I really preciate your rewiew.
    Do they have a 2 piece bar Clamp? Is something like a machmaker available for these brakes?

    Regards

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    Yes they are a two piece bar clamp. I rang Hope last week and they said a matchmaker will be ready for these in the near future

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pete N
    Yes they are a two piece bar clamp. I rang Hope last week and they said a matchmaker will be ready for these in the near future
    Thats funny as i emailed them yesterday and its available now for XTR shifters part number HBSP264

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gezzza
    Thats funny as i emailed them yesterday and its available now for XTR shifters part number HBSP264
    What do the matchmakers do exactly? I have XTR Shifters.

    Thanks

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    Quote Originally Posted by iRoNeTiK
    What do the matchmakers do exactly? I have XTR Shifters.
    They mount the shifter directly to the brakelever. So there are less clamps on the handlebar. Looks cleaner.

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    Nice!! Where can I order the matchmakers from? I dont see them on Chainreaction

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thomas Anderson
    Nice!! Where can I order the matchmakers from? I dont see them on Chainreaction
    CRC will not order them for you i went to my LBS and got them to order them

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    Got my new front brake today it's looking good!

    Im pleased with selling the stock mounted R1 Carbons and changing them with Hope Race brakes. Not that fragile feel I got from the R1's. They are lighter aswell and have a more distinct feel. Im very pleased.
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    Nice nice,do you already try them?

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    Quote Originally Posted by sjees
    Nice nice,do you already try them?
    Just been riding some in the basement dond want to take the bike out in the 70cm of snow

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    nope Hope for me

    anyone know how far the brake pads retract? ...or the rotors braking track width?

    i'm used to 7mm pad spacing/retraction on my mag Marta's and use slightly wobbly Scrub rotors

    these X2's look like they'd benefit massively with a Goodridge hose upgrade

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    very disappointing review 2.5/5 in latest WMB mag. strange as MBR gave them 10 a couple of issues again. My rear has just arrived to complete the set and i'm hoping the reviews are wrong. main gripe was lack of power... i never had any issue with old mono mini pros so as long as similar to that i'll be good.

    PeteN, how they doing on stumpy? power an issue running the standard 160 front? i hope to get out this weekend and see that they are wrong!!! i wont be happy as sold my XXs to get them!
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    I just got my set in. 160mm F and 140 R, first race will be this Saturday on them. Here are some pics of the weights

    Front 160mm Rotor w/ Ti Bolts


    Front Caliper w/ Hose


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    Rear 140mm Rotor w/ Ti Bolts


    Rear Caliper


    Rear I.S. Adapter w/ Bolts


    The 6 Ti bolts weigh about 7-8 grams, so about 79 grams for 160mm Rotor and 63g for 140mm Rotor.

    Total weight is 290g for front and 304g for the rear.

    I'll post again when I have actually used them

    BTW, going on my 2008 Specialized Epic Marathon build, should be sweeeeeeeeeeet!

    I also plan to get the XTR Matchmaker from hope this week and later on get the carbon levers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dparry
    very disappointing review 2.5/5 in latest WMB mag. strange as MBR gave them 10 a couple of issues again. My rear has just arrived to complete the set and i'm hoping the reviews are wrong. main gripe was lack of power... i never had any issue with old mono mini pros so as long as similar to that i'll be good.

    PeteN, how they doing on stumpy? power an issue running the standard 160 front? i hope to get out this weekend and see that they are wrong!!! i wont be happy as sold my XXs to get them!
    I saw that review, and was very surprised. The weird thing is at the bottom of the review it says that recently tested brakes will have a lower score because of the way they test things now, so all a bit crap really. The gripe was as you said, lack of power. I am not finding this and as I said earlier they are at least as powerful as my old mono mini's. They do the test to a certain pressure on the lever. The levers are short but I have no complaints whatsoever. I don't have big forearms and have no fatigue from pulling these levers, as hinted in the review. If you have to pull the brakes slightly harder, so what, it's not an issue at all for me with skinny arms.
    I am not a big fan of bike radar, there reviews are often inconsistent, and the testers come from What MTB and MTB UK, both not too good in my opinion.
    Anyway I hope they live up to your expectations as you have a broader range of brake use to compare to.

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    I just looked up MBRs review and yes they gave them 10/10 so the reviews are very mixed. Thanks for the info on the german test but who on earth would ride a set of xc race brakes in the Alps.( remember the Germans and Brits are very competetive;-) The brakes are good at what they are designed for, yes descents and drops etc but not Alpine descents. I have ridden out there many times and you need much bigger rotors and also bigger calipers.

    Dparry I look forward to your review against the xx and I genuinly think the brakes will be perfect on your S Works HT race bike, it's what they're really for. They are great for UK riding where things aren't quite so big.

    Culturesponge

    I think the Hopes will struggle with your scrub rotors. The gap between pads is only just over 3mm. That being said they don't rub at all either side front or back though the Hope discs do seem very true.

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    Hmm, i have a hard time choosing beetween these and the R1s! I'd go 160/140, that's for certain! Before reading some of these accounts of poor braking power, i'd been sure i'd get the Hope, but now it seems i'm more inclined to get the Formulas...
    Any thoughts?

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    That test where they put down Hope Race brakes, there's something very wrong with it. For instance, Avid Codes are way below, whereas they should be right up there with Saints.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pete N
    but who on earth would ride a set of xc race brakes in the Alps.
    Many, many, many great races are in the Alps. Absolutely no complaints with my (xc) R1 breaks there so far.

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    Not really what they are designed for, that is my point. They may have tested them on major downhill sections. Don't get me wrong it may show they are not up to such demands but on what terrain they tested we will never know. I've had all sorts of brakes boil in the Alps and become useless, but it isn't particularly XC that I rode, hence the chairlifts up at certain times. Sure there is XC in the Alps but most people go beyond that.
    It is akin to testing a ferrari off road and wondering why it isn't as fast as a Land Rover. This is why brake manufacturers make more than one type of brake, for different uses.

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    no Hope for me

    Quote Originally Posted by Pete N
    I think the Hopes will struggle with your scrub rotors. The gap between pads is only just over 3mm. That being said they don't rub at all either side front or back though the Hope discs do seem very true.
    thanks Pete

    the production X2's have been a let-down for me: mediocre performance + 160mm only upfront & no trick carbon levers/res covers but the same RRP - i Hope the 2011 version will have it all nailed?

    anyway, bought some ltd edition all black Formula R1's last week (less than X2's) - so will probably have to give up my slightly wobbly Scrubs anyway at least till their new rotors come out with the mag spiders

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    In contrast, the R1s behave like a Ferrari on the road and like a Land Rover offroad. The X2s may be good breaks for lowland xc conditions, however, they will always have to face comparisions with the R1 (unless they become significantly lighter). And the break is the one piece where I really do not make any compromise. Even in the midlands with descents of only 100 or 200 meters in height poor breaking power can really suck when it's wet and muddy combined with an aggressive vertical riding style.

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    Don't get me wrong, everyone knows the r1's punch well above their weight when it comes to stopping power and I seriously considered these, but after reading all the reviews of binding pads and their temeramental nature I couldn't be bothered. Spending too much time maintaining them really didn't appeal. The Hopes I'm sure will be as reliable as ever and the reviews vary. Mbr don't give 10/10 lightly. With two broken arms in the last 3 years I would ditch these asap if they werent up to the job, believe me. I have done some long descents in this horrible muddy winter and they have yet to let me down. So maybe I have to pull a bit harder to get the same power but this is no big deal for me. When I go to the Alps next, I won't be using them, bigger rotors and calipers for me. Enjoy your R1's

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    Pete N , totally agree... the word 'Race' kind of gives the intent of these brakes away. the R1s are fantastic and i have put 'the one's' on my full suss stumpy, love em. for me, modulation and control is key for racing.... not outright stopping power. the only feedback from lack of power i have heard is from what mountain bike review.. nothing from actual users. anyhoo, i hope to see real life findings this weekend.... this isnt about 'my brake is better than your brake'.
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    dparry, definitely looking forward to your first-hand impressions, because i so badly want those Hopes, rather than the Formulas..i do so hope i won't have to get the Formulas in the end!

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    Doh, the rear brake cable is not long enough to be "properly" routed on my XL Specialized Epic. Do Hope sell other length cables for the X2? I guess I will have to call them tomorrow (again for 5th time?!) haha

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