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    if you open your eyes enough there's a lockring!

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    Quote Originally Posted by sergio_pt View Post
    if you open your eyes enough there's a lockring!
    lol sorry there is in the first shot. I was viewing it on my eepad and I guess it was a bit too early.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Svard75 View Post
    Those weights Are inaccurate since there's no lockring shown.
    @ Madcow...
    The weight is without the adapter. What is the weight from the adapter?
    In Germany the 11-38 is not available.

    Now only the lockring.


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    Quote Originally Posted by PeterGer View Post
    @ Madcow...
    The weight is without the adapter. What is the weight from the adapter?
    In Germany the 11-38 is not available.

    Now only the lockring.

    OMG. Too heavy! Can I do without it? JK the cassette is no doubt very light but again I cannot say that I would ever buy one again. Mine lasted 3 months and the chain started skipping.

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    interesting to have one to try ,,,,, but with the shocking price .... I guess I'm better off with 36 T

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    A 1x10 with a 34 tooth chainring and 36 tooth cog would be 27.5 gear inches, a 38 tooth cog would be 26.1 gear inches, a whopping 1.4 gear inch difference.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GeoKrpan View Post
    A 1x10 with a 34 tooth chainring and 36 tooth cog would be 27.5 gear inches, a 38 tooth cog would be 26.1 gear inches, a whopping 1.4 gear inch difference.
    Well, an awesome rider with exceptional climbing abilty like yourself, probably couldn't tell the difference, but mere mortals would appreciate that extra 1.4 gear inches.

    Now, that being said, I prefer a closer ratio cassette where I ride. 11-28 cassette and 42/27 crankset. Not really mountainous where I live.

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    Quote Originally Posted by turbogrover View Post
    Well, an awesome rider with exceptional climbing abilty like yourself, probably couldn't tell the difference, but mere mortals would appreciate that extra 1.4 gear inches.
    Or one can use a 36t front instead, and get an extra gear before spinning out. Extra 10% of gear range is a noticeable improvement.

    That said, 11-36t from Shimano are a much more economical solution.

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    Quote Originally Posted by turbogrover View Post
    Well, an awesome rider with exceptional climbing abilty like yourself, probably couldn't tell the difference, but mere mortals would appreciate that extra 1.4 gear inches.

    Now, that being said, I prefer a closer ratio cassette where I ride. 11-28 cassette and 42/27 crankset. Not really mountainous where I live.
    I found an online retailer that lists this cassette, $490, and not in stock.

    Would you pay that for 1.4 gear inches?

    Bad climbers would not likely be running a 1x10. They're more likely to be running a triple.
    With a 22 chainring a 38 tooth cog would lower the gearing by a whopping 0.9 gear inches compared to a 36 tooth cog.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GeoKrpan View Post
    I found an online retailer that lists this cassette, $490, and not in stock.

    Would you pay that for 1.4 gear inches?
    It's a titanium WW part. Yes of course someone would pay that much.

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    Maybe the terrain where I am (Connecticut) is different than most, but I don't find gear range overly important.

    I run a 28T front and 11-36 cassette. With the very technical terrain and constant ups and downs here I spend most of my time in the top half of the cassette. I never use the 11t aside from a rare connecting stretch of fast double track.

    I am not a racer, and use smooth terrain only to connect fun technical sections, but I suspect many are in a similar situation. Maybe it makes more sense to shrink the front chainring rather than jump through hoops to get a couple teeth extra out back through very non-standard means?

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