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    Tiger Mtn. Trails opening April 15th?

    I know "normal" closure is Oct. 15th-April 15th, but are the trails actually set to open on the 15th? I couldn't find specific info on the DNR page, beyond that they're currently closed. If they're set to open, will they actually be open on the 15th (Next Tuesday) or will the 16th be the first day we can ride 'em?

    (I have an out-of-town MTBer friend in town next week and would love to show him the view from Tiger and the awesome trails.)

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    keep any eye on this page:
    http://www.dnr.wa.gov/RecreationEduc...rec.aspx#tiger

    It should be update soon with a date.
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    I sure hope so; Nathan and I are planning on being out there on that day. And maybe on Thursday too. He will be for sure but he might have already rode me into the ground for the week. Slim

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    Quote Originally Posted by DrewBird View Post
    I know "normal" closure is Oct. 15th-April 15th, but are the trails actually set to open on the 15th? I couldn't find specific info on the DNR page, beyond that they're currently closed. If they're set to open, will they actually be open on the 15th (Next Tuesday) or will the 16th be the first day we can ride 'em?

    (I have an out-of-town MTBer friend in town next week and would love to show him the view from Tiger and the awesome trails.)


    One of the potentially slight hold ups this year is the DNR wants to open all the trails (both traditional, as well as the brand new ones) at the same time. If the new ones still need some finishing, they may hold off the opening... Hopefully everything will get done and signed off in time.
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    Check the link from Lynch. There's a definite status change.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nickn View Post
    Check the link from Lynch. There's a definite status change.




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    awesome, the DNR site says everything is open right now...

    Are the trails really open for mtb? Or did they just forget to include the seasonal specific user ban on their website?

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    Silent swamp is still listed as closed, and I would assume Joy Ride and Fully Rigid are closed too since you really cant access them without the SS trail.
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    I just got word from DNR that EVERYTHING is going to be open tomorrow - that includes Silent Swamp, Joy Ride and Fully Rigid! Huge thanks to Sam Jarrett and everyone at DNR for all their hard work and dedication to making this happen!!!

    We actually really need people to ride these new trails while they are dry to help pack Ďem in. So if you didn't already have plans this weekend...Now you do.

    However, keep in mind that new trails are especially vulnerable to rutting when they get wet and muddy. So when the rains return later next week, please give these new trails a break and ride elsewhere.

    I just started a new thread with all the details including a map, so pop over there for more info.

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    Nice! Ok, what do you think is the best loop to hit all the trails besides Iverson in the most "fun" direction of travel? I generally equate downhill has fun and climbing as necessary.

    I assume climb the road to Summit and descend through Preston. Then which direction is better on Silent Swamp. I assume fully Rigid and Joy Ride are better as DH. Correct?

    Your thoughts?

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    The loop is dead. The three new trails can be accessed via NW timber with a short climb up the logging road and ride on joyride to silent swamp all the way to Preston. Hang a left on reaching that road and ride 1.5 miles to Fully Rigid. Then back down to the giant bridge and out and down joyride to NW timber. About 12 miles for this loop. Coming off the top it's right out of Preston and either SS or up the road to Fully rigid. You pick. A few of the trail builders and volunteers will be out there working tomorrow. We like beer. We like high fives. If you see us give a holler. If you see our vehicles leave some beverages and holler.

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    summit to preston, take right at bottom of preston, climb a mile to fully rigid, take a left before the bridge to silent swamp, exit just up from Preston and go left. Climb back up to fully rigid but this time stay right at the T, cross the bridge and ride joy ride to NWT. Thats the "loop" im going to do!
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    Tiger Mtn. Trails opening April 15th?

    ^^That's the perfect routing! Will be an awesome ride- Fully Rigid and Joyride are so fun!

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    How were today's trail conditions today? I'd love to ride the loop mentioned by Mr. Lynch tomorrow.

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    Re: Tiger Mtn. Trails opening April 15th?

    I went up early this Am. It was pretty foggy, but the top half down was in great shape. Gets a little wet as you get lower down, but given the rain we've had the trails are in great shape.

    I rode fully rigid and silent swamp, which were both a lot of fun. I think they will improve a lot as it drys out. Definitely worth the trip. I'd ride later in the day when the fog clears. I missed out on the view, which to me is one of the best parts of the ride.

    Thanks to all the people at evergreen who worked hard on these and allowed DNR to open it up early.

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    So jealous, can't wait til I can get back on the bike and check out the new trails!
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    Tiger Mt. is bout that action Boss

    Rode tiger today, summit to preston to fully rigid to joyride to NW timbers. New trails are bout that action Boss - especially fully rigid!

    Sunny skies, quite a few bikers out there ripping it up. The new trails are soft, so get sum before it rains!

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    Joyride was a real treat- flowy and fun. Now I can't wait to go back and hit Fully Rigid.

    Thank you so much Evergreen and builders! Tiger was already a sweet place to ride and now is even better!

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    Quote Originally Posted by NorthwestAir View Post
    Joyride was a real treat- flowy and fun. Now I can't wait to go back and hit Fully Rigid.

    Thank you so much Evergreen and builders! Tiger was already a sweet place to ride and now is even better!
    You are SO very welcome!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by nickn View Post
    The three new trails can be accessed via NW timber with a short climb up the logging road and ride on joyride to silent swamp all the way to Preston. Hang a left on reaching that road and ride 1.5 miles to Fully Rigid. Then back down to the giant bridge and out and down joyride to NW timber. About 12 miles for this loop.
    Rode this loop this morning, trails were in awesome shape. Super cool to ride the finished product, having done a few early work parties. Thanks and Kudos to everybody who helped make this happen!

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    You're back?!

    Hope you scouted our apres bbq spot while you were out there!

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    Quote Originally Posted by GeePhroh View Post
    You're back?!
    yar. Certainly nowhere near 100%, but back!

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    I rode Preston>Silent Swamp>Joyride this morning. AWESOME new trails out there! Tremendous kudos to everyone involved, the layout and build were both amazing. Stoked to have these new options! And Preston was bone-dry in sections that are often flowing with water, so further kudos to the maintenance crews.

    Stacy/Matt, any chance some of the new trails could stay open year-round? They seem very well built and like they'd drain well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DrewBird View Post
    Stacy/Matt, any chance some of the new trails could stay open year-round? They seem very well built and like they'd drain well.

    That is one of the eventual goals with the lower elevation stuff.
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    Not sure how many people have been out at Tiger in the winter, but that mountain is a big sponge and the trails are in bad shape when it is wet out, even days after it rains. I remember some horrible mud during some work parties!

    Was a bunch of gravel brought in on Preston? Not of big fan of it, but it must be there for a reason.
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    Tiger Mtn. Trails opening April 15th?

    ^^i thought the same thing, through the middle section seems rougher than last year, seems the same is true with the summit trail and there seems to be a fine coating of small rocks on the whole thing, or is it just me

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    That rough and rowdy part was scoured this winter by the storms. You can see the deposition field on the left just after the right hand switch back. The rock exposed is what was remaining after the smaller stuff stripped off.

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    Did lower lot to NW Timber, Joy Ride, Silent Swamp, road to Fully Rigid, Fully Rigid, Joy Ride and NW Timber back to lot. Just over 9 miles and 1,250 feet of climbing. I'd call this ride a "harder than most" 1,250 feet of climbing, which I mean in a good way. Riding up Joy Ride was a challenge for me. Lots of rollers and turns in a generally uphill ride. More intense than riding up Preston, though not as far. The bridges are impressive. One thing I was happy to see was the yield priority. Happy days.

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    Wow, how I wish I'd read this before I went out to ride GR today! Oh well, game on!

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    Quote Originally Posted by FM View Post
    Rode this loop this morning, trails were in awesome shape. Super cool to ride the finished product, having done a few early work parties. Thanks and Kudos to everybody who helped make this happen!
    Hey, me too - what time? I saw a handful of folks out there. I started up from the lot at 10:20 and hit everything: Iverson, Summit, Preston, Silent Swamp, Fully Rigid OAB (not recommended!), Joy Ride, Timber.
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    Quote Originally Posted by r1de View Post
    Hey, me too - what time?
    I got up before noon, for a change
    I think I started @ 8:30 and returned at 10:30, upper lot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by freakybro View Post
    One thing I was happy to see was the yield priority.
    almost there!
    Downhill riders yielding to climbing riders never makes sense to me, but neither does climbing a trail like Preston or Joy Ride. Each weirdo to his own, I guess. Sandy Ridge has it all the way right with downhill riders having the right-of-way, but at least I can't get mean-mugged by people who are walking on a purpose-built MTB trail while at Tiger.

    Is it easier to get a trail approved and opened if it's designated as two-way? I can't help but think that must contribute to it. I wouldn't want anyone I loved to be climbing the bottom of Joy Ride, and I'll discourage anyone from doing so. First time descending it yesterday and it was already fast--when there's a blue groove in a month it'll be tough to imagine climbing that (although there will be plenty of 29ers wrapped around trees to admire--that stuff is tight!).

    Overall: two new trails on Tiger Mountain? Awesome. Incredible.

    See ya out there!

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    Quote Originally Posted by a-man View Post
    almost there!
    Downhill riders yielding to climbing riders never makes sense to me, but neither does climbing a trail like Preston or Joy Ride. Each weirdo to his own, I guess. Sandy Ridge has it all the way right with downhill riders having the right-of-way, but at least I can't get mean-mugged by people who are walking on a purpose-built MTB trail while at Tiger.

    Is it easier to get a trail approved and opened if it's designated as two-way? I can't help but think that must contribute to it. I wouldn't want anyone I loved to be climbing the bottom of Joy Ride, and I'll discourage anyone from doing so. First time descending it yesterday and it was already fast--when there's a blue groove in a month it'll be tough to imagine climbing that (although there will be plenty of 29ers wrapped around trees to admire--that stuff is tight!).

    Overall: two new trails on Tiger Mountain? Awesome. Incredible.

    See ya out there!
    Hi a-man, here's some info for you on the one-way vs. two-way issue:

    You are correct in that some agencies have not had much exposure to one direction trails and arenít fully bought into the concept yet. Additionally, the argument for one direction trails is weakened when a trail is multi-use and likely to see a fair amount of hiker traffic. In that case eliminating slow moving uphill mountain biking traffic doesnít remove hikers moving slowly, regardless of direction, so its important to stay aware and anticipate other users.

    One direction trails can be most appropriate where either safety indicates they should be mountain bike only or at a place like Duthie where the usage by mountain bikers will be high and the usage by other groups will be low.

    Hope that answers your question. Enjoy those three new trails!
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    Quote Originally Posted by a-man View Post
    Each weirdo to his own, I guess.
    I'm not mountain biking so I can ride up graded forest roads, but each disguised roadie to his own, I guess.

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    On Sunday I noticed a lot of climbers pulling over and letting descenders go by (I did), but part of that was because it was an excuse to rest!
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    ^^^^^ I second this ^^^^^



    I'll take trail up over road any day. I feel like I can do it safer then most because I keep my head up and don't try to count how many knobs are on my tire while I'm riding.

    There is a cut-in trail on the logging road that's next to joyride about where the half way point is. So you don't have to ride up the younger forest part of joyride on a Saturday mid day. You can cut it there climb the SB and then drop in to Silent Swamp!

    Preston- I kept you in mind for climbing up Fully Rigid. I cleaned it one time. Can't wait to here what you think!
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    Quote Originally Posted by a-man View Post
    almost there!
    Downhill riders yielding to climbing riders never makes sense to me,
    It doesn't make sense that it's a lot more of a PITA to stop and start again going up than it is down?

    But it is nice when there are 1 way trails in both directions. I think the fireroad climb at tiger sucks donkey nuts but I'm not a roadie.

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    I heard rumors there might be a one way climbing trail at Tiger...

    I personal don't care either way, as long as I'm out riding! If time is limited or I'm a little tired I'll hammer up the logging road, sometimes I want a good challenging ride and I'll take the trails up. As long as I finish the ride with a smile on my face I'm happy!
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    On steeper sections, uphill riders will always hear the downhill riders coming way before the downhiller comes up on the uphiller.

    It's just common sense to me to just pull over and let the downhiller go. Who knows if they are even able to stop.

    When the terrain is less steep. I get it and sure, downhiller yield to allow the uphiller to keep momentum going. It's easy to put some brakes on and then release when the uphiller passes.

    So how do you put that thought into a single sign?
    Just get out and ride!

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    "Use your best judgement and be nice."

    Quote Originally Posted by traffic002 View Post
    So how do you put that thought into a single sign?

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    Quote Originally Posted by freakybro View Post
    I'm not mountain biking so I can ride up graded forest roads, but each disguised roadie to his own, I guess.
    a guy calling himself "freakybro" is unhappy about being called a weirdo? That's triple stage weirdo!

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    I've always had fun going down hills, and never liked getting hit by things going fast. It was strange to learn that mtb'ers have the "yield to uphill riders" tradition when I started out. I'd claim it's easier and safer for the climber to dive in the bushes, but really I always defer to whomever's having the most fun. Climbing is not fun compared to bombing downhill. Come on.

    Anyone knows where it comes from? Riding horses? Backpacking? 18th century royalty?

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    I wanted to get in a quick vote against any suggestion to eliminate climbing the trails since the alternative is to climb a graded road. "Disguised roadie" was just for laughs. I was out again yesterday. Trails were great!

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    I think physics will settle the issue. One Joyless Rider encountered yesterday, he was definitely not insisting on asserting his climber's rights with the descending freight train.

    Silent Swamp feels like NWT: two-way trail. Pretty similar speeds each direction, makes sense. Joy Ride and Preston and Summit, though? Nah. And yes, I omit Fully Rigid as its own trail. I've decided to lump it in with Joy Ride, but it can be a part of S.Swamp if you like.

    I realize now I'm entering into a new discussion, so I'll save that for another day/post.

    Tiger Mountain is great.

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    Silent Swamp is WAY faster (and more fun) going toward Preston but i see a lot of people riding it from Preston. Its where Ive had the most encounters. All pretty friendly.

    Anytime I've had negative encounters 95% of the time its a "mountain roadie", spandex clad hardtail rider that is hammering for personal bests every ride.
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    Nice to see it all put together after the preview ride last fall.

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    I got up there today, it was deserted. It's like people have to work on a monday or something.

    I hauled my SS all the way up the fire road/forest road to the radio towers but then got a work call. MFer... Didn't even get to ride any of the new stuff. Guess that means I gotta go up there again later this week.

    The trails that I did ride were in great shape though.

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    A true "slacker" wouldn't take their phone! Gonna have to call you "big_corporate" if your going to bow to the MAN like that!

    Last nice day for awhile so glad to hear someone got to enjoy part of it!
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