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    Tiger Mountain loop mileage?

    Do any of you happen know the actual mileage (and elevation) for the Tiger Mountain loop?
    -road climb - Summit Trail - PRT - road climb - Fully Rigid - Joy Ride - Timberline

    What about the mileage for:
    Timberline - Joy Ride road climb - Silent Swamp - road - Fully Rigid - Joy Ride - Timberline

    ...and what if you add PRT and Summit Trail to the latter?

    Thanks!

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    Quote Originally Posted by CoyoteNW View Post
    Do any of you happen know the actual mileage (and elevation) for the Tiger Mountain loop?
    -road climb - Summit Trail - PRT - road climb - Fully Rigid - Joy Ride - Timberline=mi.13

    What about the mileage for:
    Timberline - Joy Ride road climb - Silent Swamp - road - Fully Rigid - Joy Ride - Timberline=9mi.

    ...and what if you add PRT and Summit Trail to the latter?

    Thanks!
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    Quote Originally Posted by nhodge View Post
    13mi. & 9mi.
    Thanks for that.
    Maybe I should GPS or Strava or something...

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    Real men include iverson

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    Real men are ok with skipping Iverson.

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    In a few weeks the tiger loop will work out to something like 18-19 miles and 3500 feet of climbing. That's omitting Iverson.

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    Hmmm. Up to the summit, down East Tiger Summit to Preston, road back to summit (or East Summit crossing), down to Off the Grid, down Off the Grid to Fully Rigid, out Silent Swamp, back up to Fully Rigid on the Connector Road, down Fully Rigid/Joyride and out NW Timber?

    I'm ok with skipping going down Preston RR, but maybe going up it instead is worthwhile.

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    Oh you'll need PRT but only to PBR. Besides it'll be more fun.

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    Is PBR open? Last work party/shuttle that was the one that I worked on. I want to go see my rock. Slim

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    Iverson is highly underrated, especially the switchback part. I agree with nickn need to do PRT.

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    Very close to being done, Slim. Your rock is still in its humble angle of repose and I've made use of it once or twice while building up there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nickn View Post
    Very close to being done, Slim. Your rock is still in its humble angle of repose and I've made use of it once or twice while building up there.
    Thanks for the information my friend. You have made my day. I really liked sitting there looking at the view through the trees. Slim

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    Indeed. Best trail out there, by far.

    Quote Originally Posted by bhsavery View Post
    Iverson is highly underrated, especially the switchback part. I agree with nickn need to do PRT.

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    Added rough mileage to the 2014 trail map:

    Tiger Mountain loop mileage?-tiger2014withmileage.jpg

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    Up the road, down ETS, Preston, up the road to FR, then down SS, back up the road to FR, down FR/JR and out NWT was 17.6 miles, 3200' of fun, fun, fun.

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    Need to man up and add Iverson the next time.

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    Continuing up Crossover to ETS doubles the fun (not the distance).

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    Where is Off The Grid going to run? I haven't seen that on any of the maps yet. Slim

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    Slim, can't put it on the maps until it's officially open later this summer. But it will peel off of ETS after the road crossing and head all the way down to the top of Fully Rigid. An alternative to Preston.

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    2014 is going to be a very good year on Tiger for trails. We might even make Borneo happy. Somehow.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mwestra2 View Post
    Slim, can't put it on the maps until it's officially open later this summer. But it will peel off of ETS after the road crossing and head all the way down to the top of Fully Rigid. An alternative to Preston.
    T minus three weeks

    also did anyone read the press release this spring that said Tiger will be over 25 miles of trails when the system is fully done in a few years? This does not include any road connections. It will take a big ride up there to do them all when the planned trails up there are done. I'm guessing 40 miles and 9000K+ vert of very dynamic riding!
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    Quote Originally Posted by mwestra2 View Post
    Slim, can't put it on the maps until it's officially open later this summer. But it will peel off of ETS after the road crossing and head all the way down to the top of Fully Rigid. An alternative to Preston.
    Looking at the topo map it looks like it could have some real nice down hill flow. Although I rode Preston this morning before work, thanks NickN, and it would be a shame to let all that nice work done to Preston go to waste. Sweet Job there guys who ever did it. It will be interesting to see how it stands the wet season. Slim

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    Oh, I'm pretty sure the new work will hold up just fine in the wet. Glad you liked the option.

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    I'm such a slacker. I really need to get out there. I'm almost ashamed of myself for not having ridden it, and swore that this would be the year (summer is slipping by oh so quickly).

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    Climb Preston, descend the new thing.

    I'd much rather climb Preston than Crossover. I've done both. Crossover is pretty heinous.
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    I hadn't done crossover in a few years, and it really wasn't as bad as I remembered. With ETS trail it makes a great loop since there's no elevation loss on the road to get back to Preston (it used to be up crossover, down road to preston trail). Here's a fun 3h loop I like when I'm in the mood for a bigger Tiger ride.

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    Crossover Trail? Where is that one? I haven't seen that. Slim

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    Crossover is not a trail, it's a road.

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    Quote Originally Posted by woodway View Post
    Crossover is not a trail, it's a road.
    Is that the road from the bottom of Preston to NW Timber or the road up to Fully Rigid? I am new at this so I ask a bunch of questions. I thank you all for your patience. Slim

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    In the rest of the world they call it a trail, but we have high standards in the pnw. A road is a road!

    It used to have quarry spalls, but now it's relatively smooth and not a bad way to get up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SlimL View Post
    Is that the road from the bottom of Preston to NW Timber or the road up to Fully Rigid? I am new at this so I ask a bunch of questions. I thank you all for your patience. Slim
    the road up to Fully Rigid...and Beyond!!!
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    I haven't ridden it in a while. I remember the death cookies and the ridiculous grade.

    Yes, Crossover's the one that parallels Preston. It might change name for the section that goes to NW Timber, but that's what you're on riding to the top of Fully Rigid. If you kept going, you'd end up at the Summit.
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    Crossover road is so F'd right now, so much lose big gravel. Trail crew work trucks do a number on it all week. Go back up Preston if your trying to get back to the top.

    The Eastside road is the one from Preston to Timber which is a pointless rd for MTBing now that the new trails are in!!!
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    The stoke meter just climbed a couple notches tonight. But very few are finding the "hidden" jem and seeing the signs.......

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    Quote Originally Posted by nickn View Post
    The stoke meter just climbed a couple notches tonight. But very few are finding the "hidden" jem and seeing the signs.......
    Now Nick, don't give away all the good secrets. Although the signs weren't even up when I was there. Passed the Sign Placer coming up as I was going down.
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    Awesome work on PBR! Really fun! Although it leaves off some fun from Preston it leaves enough gas in the tank for us mortals to hit Silent Swamp and come back up to Fully Rigid again. 16 miles/2900' with roads going to the Summit, ETS, PRT, PBR, FR, SS, FR, JR, NWT. woot-woot!

    Talked to at least a dozen folks at the summit about all the good stuff going on at Tiger. A few who had no idea of the stuff coming along the I-90 corridor. Told folks about the new trail guide as some mentioned looking for maps, so the stoke is spreading.

    OTG sounds like it's going to be a blast as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kasperilio View Post
    Awesome work on PBR! Really fun! Although it leaves off some fun from Preston it leaves enough gas in the tank for us mortals to hit Silent Swamp and come back up to Fully Rigid again. 16 miles/2900' with roads going to the Summit, ETS, PRT, PBR, FR, SS, FR, JR, NWT. woot-woot!
    So happy to hear someone is riding things the right way!

    But I think doing NWT to JR via upper cut in, to SS, then up Preston part way up to, PBR, Crossover to ETS, then all the way to bottom of Preston to hit the rd, to FR, JR and NWT with a little Iverson happy ending is the mans, man route right now.
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    Yea, that would put some hair on your chest. After riding in the truck with Katie up Crossover I haven't exactly been jumping to try that. That's steep.

    Heard chainsaws and then saw Peter P. coming down. Is he working on the climbing trail or something else?

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    My next task is to build an up trail from the corner where the steep crap starts. It will be on the downhill side of the rd. Once that is done then it will be a great route!! It's will be ready at the begging of next "season".

    I'll be doing a mega Tiger ride is Sept that hits all the trails! Once OTG is open thing will get extra crazy up there for man size loops.
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    Today we rode ETS-PRT-PBR-FR-SS-Crossover-FR-JR-NWT.
    My bike computer had that route at about 16 miles. Next time Im thinking of doing all of PRT, crossover to FR-SS, then up Preston to PBR, and then continue that the FR-JR-NWT.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kasperilio View Post
    Heard chainsaws and then saw Peter P. coming down. Is he working on the climbing trail or something else?






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    My riding partner had an ACL rebuilt recently and is still not 100%. We're both new to riding in the area & wondering with current conditions what would be the most non technical route to the summit? We're thinking about doing Main Tiger Mt Road Climb since it sounds like Crossover is in bad shape. We're looking forward to trying the new trails on the way down!

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    That would be the road to the summit. 4 mile climb, some of it pretty steep and could be hard on a knee, but also walk-able.

    If you go to the summit and do the regular route your looking at a 13 mile ride, so be sure he's ready for that. You could also stay low and get a 10 miles ride in with less climbing and hit all of the new stuff.

    The next post in this thread from mwestra2 has a map with mileage.

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    The main road climb to the summit is in pretty good shape. The Crossover road from Preston to Fully Rigid was fine too.

    All trails were in great shape Sunday, with less dust than I expected. The rain we just got should help and I bet the trails are running really nice now.
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    No love for riding up Fully Rigid ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Preston67 View Post
    No love for riding up Fully Rigid ?
    Given what I've seen expert riders do on a bike, I've stopped saying "that can't be possible", but has anyone cleaned this trail in an uphill direction? Seems like there are a couple spots that would be tough for anyone - that V shaped tree not much before the bottom for example. There's no space to gain momentum, and there's no room left to right to try to swing through it somehow.

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    I personally think Fully Rigid should be a one way trail, atleast on weekends. It has tight technical spots that are totally blind and nearly impossible to stop or pull over on.

    I've ridden up Fully Rigid (with lights on a Wednesday night) and thought it was a fun challenge, but with the traffic Tiger gets on a nice day it seems like it would be asking for trouble.
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    I like how you are all excited about a new trail labeled "bail out" that effectively eliminates singletrack from your ride.

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    Quote Originally Posted by trees4me View Post
    I like how you are all excited about a new trail labeled "bail out" that effectively eliminates singletrack from your ride.
    Sure it removes some mileage, but not much. It does eliminate additional road mileage. For some that's more of a win. Or if doing the lower loop, PBR actually adds single track. Either way there's an option for those that want it. See it that way rather than as a negative.

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    I look at it as a way to ADD singletrack mileage. Just give more "loop" options!
    Down Preston, up crossover to Fully Rigid, down Silent Swamp, up Preston to PBR, then back to Fully Rigid-Joy Ride- NWT.

    Or NWT-JR-SS-lower Preston-PBR-FR-JR-NWT if you want to stay at lower elevation.
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