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    St. Edward State Park - Pipeline Trail Work Parties

    Great new for the those who ride St. Eds. Many of you are aware of the substantial erosion that the pipeline trail that has seen this year (it parallels Holmes Point Drive on the north side). The state park has given us the approval to re-route this trail. The end goal is to create two much more sustainable trails, one of which will be more interesting for hikers to ascend and decend...the other will be tailored to draw descending bike traffic away from the other trail

    We need your help in making this happen. The first 3 work parties are now scheduled and posted to the EMBA Calendar.

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    Just broke my hand so I know I can't make the first two, hopefully I'll be healed enough to make the third one!
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    Just signed up on Evergreen. I know I sure owe St. Ed's some trail work!

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    That trail would be perfect for some jumps! Oh wait....


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    Saw the layout plan. Looks really fun (seems every place needs their version of FT3K these days!) and maybe some step ups can be added before the curves. Nice parallel switchbacky climb heading back up to stay off the road too. The lazy coasters can probably figure out a way to shuttle it too. (Where there's a will, there's a way....) Hell, People shuttle Duthie/GR I guess.

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    Thank you, fluxcapacitor, for your leadership here. Looking forward to helping build that and riding it!

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    I mentioned that there are 3 work parties scheduled but only posted the link to the first one...thought I would make it easier to sign up for the other two as well.

    Evergreen MTB Calendar (April 13th)

    Evergreen MTB Calendar **UPDATE - This one has been Cancelled (4/20).

    Evergreen MTB Calendar (April 27th)

    Evergreen MTB Calendar **NEW (May 4th)

    @Fireswamp - you bet, glad to help and be a part of making trails better for all of us!
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    Just realized that the second work party (4/20) is scheduled for Easter Sunday. We are working to move it out to May 4th instead so we can get a decent turn out.

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    I'm in for the 27th. Looking forward to it!

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    Quick update. I just posted another work party for tomorrow on the EMBA calendar. I will be showing up at 9 and working until at least 2, but feel free to show up when you can!

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    Hopefully some of you have had the chance to get out and take a look at what we are doing. Its looking really great thanks to great crew last weekend.

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    great time today. really cool to be able to open a new section like that. thanks for the direction and vision, guys. looking forward to the next time i can make it out.
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    Yesterday was awesome! I learned a lot and will be helping again soon. Thanks to the organizers and everyone who came out, the new section is going to be sweet!

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    The thanks belongs to all of those that came out to help, you guys absolutely rocked it! This re-route is turning out really sweet and cant wait to open it up all the way.

    We have one more work party on the schedule right now (may 4th) but this week we will be filling out that calendar with a bunch more.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fluxcapacitor View Post
    The thanks belongs to all of those that came out to help, you guys absolutely rocked it! This re-route is turning out really sweet and cant wait to open it up all the way.
    Definitely kudos to the help but with out good leadership, I am just a mindless drone. You and Tom rocked it in the direction department making it so easy for us to do the work. To all of you, what a gas meeting you all; the true meaning of community. To be a part of something that will last.

    Plus, I even had time for a ride after. Can't be there next time but I will try to get back up soon. Sunday's are always the best for me.

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    Here we go guys - one more work party has now been posted. We are getting really close to opening this trail up completely. Once we do we can quickly move on to the next phase (which we have walked out and looks like it has potential to be the best trail in the park for bikes )

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    Cant wait to see everyone out there again, I have enjoyed working with each of you that has made it out!

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    I realize this is happening the same day as the Tiger work/BBQ/shuttle day (tough to compete with that!) but come rain or shine we want to get this portion of the trail finished up and could use all the help we can get.

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    i finally got a ride in the park and checked out the work from the last work party. the trail is looking great. it's going to be a fun addition to the park. sorry i can't make it this time. i was sorry to see the log cut out though, but i guess that was going to happen.

    any chance for another work party on may31 or june1? would be great if there was one on that saturday...
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    More work parties will be scheduled soon. As we wrap up phase I and roll into phase II, we are trying to coordinate walk-throughs and buy-offs with the park ranger. Once those are completed we will book out quite a few work parties. Right now I can't lead (or attend) them on Saturday but after June 7th I will try to get a few on the books.

    As I have mentioned to quite a few who have attended, short notice work parties are an option, and if I come up with some spare time I will post it up on this thread and all are welcome to join.

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    I look forward to working with you guys again. Looking forward to phase 2. I am exactly the opposite; I can't hardly ever get out on a Saturday. Funny how those things go. Going to be out there riding this Thursday morning before work with my mentor and hopefully a couple of other friends. Look forward to trying the bit that I worked on. Slim

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    thanks, flux. i'll look forward to getting out there with you guys and a shovel again soon. can't wait to see what phase ii is all aboot.
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    I live very close to ST. Edwards and I would be interested in joining in and helping out trail building. It's closer than Duthie and Paradise Valley for me.

    I havent really biked too much of St. Edwards yet so I dont really know what trails are very good for riding. Maybe I didn't explore to much I only rode it twice. I tried to stick to the perimeter trails because I didnt want to plow over a hiker being on the wrong trail.

    What trails at St.Edwards are the better ones to ride? This park has a lot of potential but most of the trails seem more cut out for hiking and not riding.


    *Edit* I see, its the pipeline trail. I joined the work party on Evergreen Web site. I am looking for a place to ride often thats super close, so I would be more than happy to join in the work party.

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    you can exhaust all the bike-allowed trails in st eds pretty quickly, but adding big finn's trails makes for a ride of decent length. full trail map of both here:
    http://your.kingcounty.gov/ftp/gis/w...l_brochure.pdf
    (though it doesn't clearly show all the trails or detail what are/aren't bike allowed, but i'll get you started)

    the full plan for big finn's improvements and revisions are here:
    Sept. 12: King County Parks approves new trails plan for Big Finn Hill Park

    it's pretty cool what's going to happen in these parks in the coming months.
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    For ongoing specific information regarding the Big Finn Hill side this page has the details, plus maps with future plans. Big Finn Hill Backcountry Trail in King County, Washington

    We're really hoping to segue from the St Eds stuff into work in Big Finn Hill, but things are moving a lot slower on that side so we're being as optimistic as possible to keep the momentum going. If you're interested in being on the email list for the Big Finn side, either send me a PM or look at the "Organizing Cmte Contacts" doc at the link above and you'll see the mtn biker contacts.

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    Bigcoug1 - welcome to the area. You will find that between St Eds, Bastyr, and BFH there is more than enough to keep you entertained for 1-2 hour rides. I look forward to meeting you at the work party and one of these fine warm days we will have to get out and give you a tour.

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    Went out and rode it today. The trails are in great shape right now. I must say though that I am sad that they cut out the tree; it was a good feature I thought.

    I ride the area about once every two weeks and I have yet to have a bad ride. I drive all the way out from the south end by Seatac Airport that is how much I like it. I really look forward to getting back out to help you but I just can't pass up a shuttle ride up Tiger this weekend. Now that is a grind up. Slim

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    I was out there yesterday from around 1-5 re-working the first switchback. Its really taking shape.
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    What a great crew we had out today! I would consider Phase I a huge success and aside from final shaping once its worn in a bit its DONE! Thanks to everyone that has helped along the way and I look forward to working with you again soon on Phase II.

    Looking down into the middle switchback
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    The middle switchback
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    The bottom switchback
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    Our infamous trail gnome...we spotted one!
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    Ran the new trail tonite. Great job routing & building. Will be super fun to ride. Thanks to everyone that put time & effort into it.

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    Flux, you are going to need to put more lumber and impassable objects in those switch back corners as the will unfortunately get cut. The poor fern at the apex of the middle switchback won't make it through the summer.....

    Looks fun though! (Thumbs up!)

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    Borneo - we do have a lot more work to do to finish cleaning up and replanting. As for switchback cutting we installed a colony of mountain beavers (as pictured above) at each turn that create a labyrinth of swiss cheese like structure. People who tempt their fate cutting corners will either break an ankle or come face to face with an angry beaver. In all seriousness, you're right and we know, we have more work cleanup and finish work but at least the entire top to bottom re-route is functional.

    I am going to contact the ranger and hopefully have the green-light to flag phase II by next week.

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    Wow, way to knock it out! Great job.

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    Rode it this morning and it was SWEET! You can get moving pretty fast. Great job, I look forward to helping with phase 2.

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    Hit this Monday...it's awesome, in both directions. Thanks!!!
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    Going to be riding it tomorrow. I am really looking forward to it. And starting work on Phase II. Be sure to have some Sunday parties. Slim

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    I wanted to share a quick update for everyone that's put time in on this trail. The park ranger and I have been in contact and he is really pleased with how it's all coming along.

    "Great job on you and the crew, it is an amazing trail!...thank you so much"

    We are currently planning a time to get the final buy-off on phase I which sounds like a slam dunk...then its on to phase II (most likely kicking off in a few weeks).

    Borneo, Eerie, CharlieDog, Big B - So glad to hear positive reviews and thanks for the feedback!

    Slim - would love to hear how it rides when you get done (and you bet we will be having more Sunday work parties...lots of them).

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    It is a great trail. It is still a little soft so if you are prone to jumping off everything you can find, remember that; aim to the upside of the hill. I am not a jumper but my mentor is so he knows. I really like slow technical stuff so going down hill on those switchbacks are perfect in my opinion; nice and tight and if you get a little sketchy, you can just put a foot down. Going up; what a gas, a nice little work out for an old guy like me and rides really nice.

    The mountain beaver have been active so the trail is going to need a little ongoing work till they move out of there. Their holes are easy to miss and ride through. Yeah, it is one of my favorite rides. I might even go back out again next Thursday. Tuesday is Duthie. Slim

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    Update: Huge thanks to everyone who made phase I a huge success and put their time in. Other than some unfavorable sandy conditions in the switchbacks (which we will be addressing soon) everything looks great.

    TFitz, Kasperilio, and myself took an early Saturday morning walk with Ranger Mo and he had nothing but rave reviews of the work that was done with Phase I. We then moved into the valley and took a more detailed look at the scope of Phase II. There was but one thing he didn't readily approve (but did say maybe it could be incorporated in the future). At the end of the walk he said we are now approved to clear the corridor and pin flag the route!

    After spending countless hours in that gully (over the last few months) then running my ideas past Borneo, kasperilio, TFitz, and Shannon for a sanity check...I finally got out this morning and started hacking away at a corridor. A little more than half of the corridor has now been cleared. With sight lines opened up it beginning to become a reality...looking pretty sweet!

    Sorry, got side tracked...Once the corridor is completed we will pin it, then get Mo out for a final check (hopefully in the next two weeks). I am very confident that he will approve the final flagging. Once he does, we will get a string of work parties on the books and start moving dirt!

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    fluxcapacitor, considering Ranger Mo specifically rejected the phase II concept when I ran it by him after the first Pipeline washout, you've wrought a miracle by getting his support for this project. Looking forward to this, and the final fixes on phase I switchbacks.

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    I appreciate the kind words but I cant take credit for getting this pushed through on my own. You and I were able to craft a sustainable solution to the washout. Marry that with a tremendous level of trust you've earned with Mo and through the dedication of everyone that came out to make phase I happen so beautifully...we ALL had a hand in the earning of his support.

    You know I am looking forward to it, its like Christmas all year!

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    Do I need to say keep us posted? Slim

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    Phase 2 is now flagged and waiting for approval, we should be slinging dirt in a couple weeks at the latest!

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    Nice. If you're heading out during the week and need some help, let me know.
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    That is great news. Slim

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    Ok guys - here is the first of many to come for Phase II.

    Evergreen MTB Calendar (June 25th)

    We are keeping the first few work parties small and we will do a couple during the week. Once we get going we will fill up the schedule with some dates on the weekend.

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    ah dang, i'm on baby duty that night, so i'll have to look forward to the next one. it's a couple more years until my littleman can be out there with a shovel helping us, and until he can use these trails as well.
    great timing on a weekdays though! hope more work parties end up around this time of day on weekdays.
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    Signed up. Was out there today, and the new trail is riding nice. Bit sandy at the bottom, but it keeps you on your toes. Great improvement though, and fun to ride.
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    We are officially cleared for take off! See below (email from the ranger)

    "...I actually walked the area today and really like it. I also understand there will be small changes because of the reasons you explained. I am ok with that. I say move forward and we can go from there.

    thank you for all your hard work, I know a lot of people will appreciate it, even if they don't know who specifically did the hard stuff."

    Phase II is legit and in less than a week, we break ground!

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    Like I said before, flux, you've wrought a miracle. St Ed's/Big Finn Hill will be a bit of a backwater compared with Duthie et al as the sport evolves, but it's just an absolutely essential incubator for beginner riders, and the relationships we have built with the land managers are so important for keeping and building on that. The fact that the ranger is willing to skip some of the review steps you laid out to get where we are now speaks volumes!

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    amen, tfitz. great work, flux.
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    Dont forget to thank your local park ranger next time you see him...Thank you MO!

    Back to trail talk - There will be two (seasonal) water crossings on this trail which means we will need at least 1 small bridge (possibly a second). We are in the works to source materials but if anyone has a source for split cedar decking PM me. One of the bridges will be around 6 feet in length and we would like it to be 4 feet wide...the other (if we do it) will be around 10 feet in length and also 4 feet wide. As a side note I have a concept of the second bridge that I would love to see and it is circulating in a select group. Once its vetted I will post pictures of the concept.

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