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    PV 911 for mountain biker?

    Anyone here know who it was that died out there today?

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    No aid cars at the park when I did a loop at 4pm

    Man dies on biking trail near Maltby | HeraldNet.com - Local news

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    I was out there today. I entered on 107th Drive around 2:00, I live just down the street from there. There were a couple aide cars and 4 or 5 Sheriff patrol cars parked at the trail head and no people around so I knew something bad happened. I didn't get very far down Southern Traverse before the Sheriff stopped me.

    He told me there was a fatality but he couldn't remember the name of the trail. More than that I don't know. I feel bad for him and his family. Rest in Peace.
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    Very sad news.

    Lets not speculate as to what happened- details will come with time.

    Condolences to the deceased and his family.

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    Sounds like it was someone from here in Duvall. Won't throw out the name until we're sure. Either way. Sad news all around. Unfortunately, I know first hand what everyone involved went through. I'm sure they did everything they could. good reminder to gut check how trivial some of the things we argue about on here can be...

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    Did we ever get a name, or what officially happened? I hadn't heard.
    Today I will gladly share my experience and advice, for there are no sweeter words than "I told you so."

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    I have one. Not confirmed yet. Pretty sure though. I assume Woodway will be talking to the county soon about it given our conversation and discussions for more trail opportunities coming up.

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    The rider and cause of death have been ID'd in the same paper as the article above.

    A sad day, for sure.
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Sagebrush Slug View Post
    The rider and cause of death have been ID'd in the same paper as the article above.

    A sad day, for sure.
    Not that we need anything salacious here, but it'd be nice to know the whole story. Was he riding over his capabilities? Was he going too fast? Did he just fall off a ladder? Etc.

    RIP, sir. I didn't know you, but I am saddened by your death.
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    Sad story. best wishes to his family.
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    Hey, out of respect, let's not go there.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FM View Post
    Hey, out of respect, let's not go there.
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    +1000. It's just sad. We all push our luck sometimes, not just on a bike,but in all outdoor sports. I'm sorry for the family.

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    I'm just starting to get up there in the years now and so when I hear about older folks getting severely injured or even dying I would like to know how and why. Is it a heart condition, a crash, or something else?

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    I agree with you. However, your post does not shed any light on what happened to this gentleman. Mountain biking is a lethal sport. I think there are folks who are maybe unaware of just how lethal it can be. Myself included. I have met personally with a man who broke his neck at paradise valley while riding an elevated structure. Most folks would think little of riding the structure that he fell from.

    Folks need to understand just how lethal this sport is. You would like to know why. The answer to your question is that traveling quickly in close proximity to the ground, rocks and trees can be lethal. If you don't understand that then don't do it,

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    Quote Originally Posted by wickstad View Post
    I agree with you. However, your post does not shed any light on what happened to this gentleman.
    His post was not intended to shed light on how he passed. he shared an updated article that ID'd the rider who passed.

    Yes Mnt biking has it's dangers, I don't think I would go as far as calling it "lethal". If we call Mnt biking lethal, i would argue pretty much everything we do in life is lethal.

    I would also add XC riding is pretty darn safe, you can increase the danger by adding speed and or features like jumps, drops, step ups, so on. I would say I myself am way more prone to injury when I ride Whistler than say somewhere like PV.

    Late last season a guy from Idaho (I think) passed away up at North Shore by falling off a feature and hitting his head, from what i heard, it was a very slow speed accident.

    Any death doing a activity you love would really suck, but I think most will agree we are willing to take the risk.

    I can think of way worse ways to perish. If I had to chose, I would do it while doing something I love. Including test flying a airplanes (my job)

    Next time we ride, lets ride in memory of Steve.

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    Once, while visiting a friend in the hospital, I saw that he was sharing a room with another gentleman who had a halo on. Turns out he fell off a very small ladder on Blue Bucket, when the trail was "still rideable." That said, I rode it the very next day, just to check it out. I can see how he was hurt.... you stop there, you crash. As Jimba said, the sport is inherently dangerous, but lethal? No. You can die, yes. I can die typing this paragraph too. It's a little kneejerk.

    All this said, I don't see why discussing his death or "how he died" isn't in good taste. I'm not picking on Scott or anyone else here, but I am curious what exactly happened. I wouldn't be surprised if he simply had a heart attack and fell, injuring himself further. Again, it's not salacious. In a way, those who ride the area deserve to know to protect the area we love from those that would set any crash as a reason to ban bikers from this trail and others. News is good, as long as it doesn't step into gossip. YMMV.
    Today I will gladly share my experience and advice, for there are no sweeter words than "I told you so."

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    It is not just a matter of taste. There is also perception, liability, and impact to future access & advocacy efforts to consider.

    Maybe somebody who knew Steven would like to post some reflections on who he was and how he enjoyed mountain biking- that would be good use of this space.

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    From the plethora of FB posts on my wife's friends feed, he was well loved and known in the valley. Never rode with him nor even know he was a biker though.

    I do know now how/where it happened and for perceived "taste" and/or "liability" concerns, PM me if anyone just has to know.

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    That really sucks. RIP to the rider and condolences to his family.

    BTW, I'd in no way ever describe mt. biking as "lethal". Its more likely that i could be killed by some idiot texting and driving than riding my bike. If it were indeed "lethal", I wouldn't encourage my daughter to ride her bike on trails.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ebxtreme View Post
    BTW, I'd in no way ever describe mt. biking as "lethal". Its more likely that i could be killed by some idiot texting and driving than riding my bike. If it were indeed "lethal", I wouldn't encourage my daughter to ride her bike on trails.
    No doubt, having lost a friend to road cycling, it's obvious that mountain biking is 100x safer than bike commuting or road riding. At PV, you ride past plenty of signs warning you of potential risk, and there are "safe" ride-around options that can be chosen. Unfortunately with road biking you aren't likely to get any warning if there's an accident coming.

    My daughter loves riding at PV, but there's no way I'd let her ride in the bike lane right in front of my house.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wickstad View Post
    Folks need to understand just how lethal this sport is. You would like to know why. The answer to your question is that traveling quickly in close proximity to the ground, rocks and trees can be lethal. If you don't understand that then don't do it,
    You completely missed what I was saying about this. I'm what some might call an expert rider. I completely understand the risks of mountain biking, having experienced many of the unfortunate outcomes first hand.

    And btw, I don't necessarily call mountain biking lethal, yes it has an element of danger though.

    *edit* Lots of good points since my last post - didn't read them until after this post.
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