• 07-13-2014
    Mr. Lynch
    Hansen Ridge -RR 7/13/14 with video
    A group of us rode Hansen Ridge today.

    Road up - Its in great shape, hardly any potholes, and the parking are has been cleaned up a good deal since I was out there is 2012. You could drive a Honda Civic up there no problem.

    We started riding about 7:20am, so it was fairly cool up the first climb. THe trees have grown a lot since I was up there last so shade was much better. A lot of sections are loose, but the dust wasnt too bad for the most part, and the stream crossing were all shallow and refreshing to bomb thru. I love the trail diversity up there: fast buff spots, sweet rock gardens, dusty open descents, fast singletrack in the woods and just about anything you can think of.

    We ended up riding all the way to the lake and I had it at nearly 10 miles on the nose. A tad longer than listed on the Evergreen site, but in the ballpark. The lake was amazing. Really clear and clean and I got some great gopro footage of it. It appears to be about 20ft deep in the middle with a sandy bottom. Very surprising.

    During the ride back it hit 90 degrees so we took our sweet time and finished a little after 1pm. I had the full ride at 20 miles, and I'd consider it a borderline epic ride. Twice the climbing/descending of Tiger, and 410 type views. The middle section after phase 2 still needs to be build/converted, but it is still worth the ride. When the full loop is completed it will be a legit all day tour, but even now I'd HIGHLY recommend hitting it up while you can!

    I threw together a quick video showing all the diverse terrain and incredible lake swim reward at the half way point!

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  • 07-13-2014
    johnbike81
    That sounds like a great ride, is that trail pretty easy to navigate?
  • 07-14-2014
    Summit Ridge Guy
    Mr. Lynch, you made it look like it was down hill both directions! (Sneaky guy.....)
  • 07-14-2014
    Mr. Lynch
    It's down hill both ways, in the sunshine!

    There are only 3 intersections, so it is easy to figure out. We took the upper trailhead from the parking lot so you take the first left where Phase 1 meets Phase 2. At the end of Phase 2 you come out on a logging road and you go right (left is a dead end). That runs for a few miles and at the next intersection you go left (uphill) and that climbs all they way up to the lake.
  • 07-14-2014
    thumbprinter
    looks like an amazingly fun trail. i'm guessing that's your heartbeat we hear thumping away in the video?
  • 07-14-2014
    Mr. Lynch
    The mic on the Gopro 3 seems to pick it up real well. Never heard on the old gopro.
    The trail has over 3k of climbing, but you get 3k of descending too. It not all one shot though. There are about 4 climbs and 4 descents of varying length in each direction. The final climb up to the Lake is a good grunt, but after swimming you get a nice descent to start the return.

    If anyone does the ride soon, I'd recommend some floaties/raft and good bug spray for the lake. Lots of annoying deer flies and mosquitoes.
  • 07-14-2014
    Navigator
    I've got it at 156bpm...

    That trail is pure All-mountain. When I see all the sweet single track it almost makes me forget about the massive climbs. Just needs a chairlift.

    Loved the swimming dog shots. Glad those other guys had swim trunks on. :)
  • 07-14-2014
    kenobonn
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    Needs better signage
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Mr. Lynch
    ... and the parking are has been cleaned up a good deal since I was out there is 2012.

    Great video! It really shows what an awesome ride it is, I hope more bikers use this regularly.

    The parking lot is cleaner, but still pretty sad shape and continues to get abused. People have destroyed the sign to the trailhead, see pic of what remains. My guess is the sign had rules they did not agree with, but that would be just a shot in the dark.

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  • 07-15-2014
    Mr. Lynch
    My first ride up there was August 2012 and we had to carry our bikes thru the parking lot past the gate. I still wouldnt call it "clean", but you can actually ride your bike thru the lot now, so it does look a lot better.

    To the lake and back is basically the same as doing the Tiger climb twice, but broken up into about 6 sections of climbing. Atleast the last 2.5 miles is all downhill back to the car!
  • 07-15-2014
    trees4me
    I gotta get up there! Thanks for the stoke
  • 07-17-2014
    SlimL
    Yeah, thanks. I will put it on the list. Slim
  • 07-23-2014
    mwestra2
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    Bryan, Graham and I just wrapped up 5 days of work with a mini-exc and WCC crew on the Carter Creek trail segment. Some trail work shots coming. Here is the section:

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    That whole mile+ new Carter Creek trail connecting the east side Phase 2 road-to-trail segment to the 510RD was abandoned in 2011 due to a series of CFs. Operator heart attack, proj mgr spine surgery, operator pre-mature birth, crazy fire season shutdowns and then early snow! So it was left 5-10 ft wide, with poor drainage and some unfinished tread.

    The trail was narrowed to 3-4 ft, grade reversals added, turns insloped and drained, some meandering added. The rough wet section before the road was also cleaned up with some drainage, rock armored crossings, grade reversals and a banked turn into a rock feature.

    Some shots of the watershed side. Very tough to get access in there so a rare view of Rainier...

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    The I90 side...

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    Awesome video! A couple spots have changed. Check it out. Here are a few things...

    • Totally opened up and cleaned up the log bridge rider-arounds in the first 30 seconds (USFS risk mgt issue… some of the ride-arounds weren’t even visible).
    • Narrowed the entire mile+ of new trail starting at 30 seconds – insloped and drained all the turns (there were water ruts running down and across them), added grade reversals, narrowed the entire mile, added a tiny bit of meandering across the old wide bench
    • The piece of art at 1:50 was started by Kevin Schmuck and the Greenway’s contractor in 2011 and finished by Tyler in 2013.
    • Switchbacks through the Talus field at 2:10 were re-built by Tyler, Graham, Bryan and I in 2013. I'm only slightly exaggerating when I say there was ~1 cup of usable dirt per ton of sharp angular rock. Very tough to get a decent riding surface through that steep section.


    Gotta send out a HUGE HUGE thanks to Jesse and the WCC crew! Wow! What a great job. The rain that made camping a nightmare was absolutely perfectly timed for the trail! Primo dirt right now. Go git some.
  • 07-23-2014
    Mr. Lynch
    Very good chance we will be up there again this Sunday. If anyone is interested in joining us shoot me a PM. Supposed to be 80s on Sunday, so perfect for another swim!
  • 07-23-2014
    GeePhroh
    Thanks, Mike, Bryan and Graham -- and to Big Kev and Ty as well! Can't wait to see it for myself!

    But did you have to bring a dog out there? She looks like a menace...

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by mwestra2 View Post

  • 07-23-2014
    mwestra2
    5 Attachment(s)
    South Fork Carter Creek -- Before and After Shots
    Here is the steep rocky traverse BEFORE:

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    (too wide, stumps sticking up everywhere)

    And AFTER:

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    (on the really steep traverse, we just tossed the trail shoulder overboard and tore out as many stumps as possible, and the WCC flush cut the rest of the stumps.

    Some examples of the added curve and narrowing:

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  • 07-23-2014
    SlimL
    Thank you guys so very much for the work up there. I am already booked for this Sunday and next weekend but hopefully by the end of next month. I see there is a GPX track on the Evergreen website for the ridge. How about coming up with a GeoPDF to use with the Avenza PDF Maps app I heard about at the trail building school. That's the route some of us go. Slim
  • 07-23-2014
    DRSpalding
    Print off a map, stuff it in your pack or pocket and go ride it! Hansen Ridge is pretty self-evident when you are out there as long as you find the trailhead. :)
  • 07-23-2014
    Summit Ridge Guy
    Nice work Mr. Westra!!!
  • 07-23-2014
    SlimL
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by DRSpalding View Post
    Print off a map, stuff it in your pack or pocket and go ride it! Hansen Ridge is pretty self-evident when you are out there as long as you find the trailhead. :)

    Just drop a waypoint so I can make it back. Made the mistake of not doing that the first time I rode Tiger. Ended up on the Powerline Rd coming back and that sucked. Slim
  • 07-24-2014
    mwestra2
    SlimL, Here are links to the GeoPDF of the SFork. Shoot me an email if you can't download one of these (mwestra at evergreen mtb dot org).

    https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/...P1_P2_0912.pdf

    http://192.163.202.209/trails?task=d...adl_file&id=91
  • 07-24-2014
    Mr. Lynch
    We did get a tad mixed up at 1 spot last time we rode out there, but for the msot part it is easy to follow.
    Where Stage 2 ends at the old logging road go RIGHT! Left looks more used, but up top is a dead end party spot.
  • 07-24-2014
    SlimL
    Thanks Mike I got the PDF. I am just a touch old school; don't have data and haven't upgraded my GPS to a newer model that's easier to read. So an iPod Touch with PDF Maps works great for me. And thanks so much to Evergreen for representing us so well. Slim
  • 07-24-2014
    trees4me
    Trails look really nice! It's on my must hit afterwork list :)
  • 07-24-2014
    CoyoteNW
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by trees4me View Post
    Trails look really nice! It's on my must hit afterwork list :)

    Let me know if you want to team up for a lap, p.m. sent
  • 07-24-2014
    Mr. Lynch
    I should be able to post up a before and after shot of the area they worked. it's cool to see the difference a little work makes!
  • 07-27-2014
    Ladmo
    A couple pictures and panoramic video shots from this morning. I was out early and saw some great morning light through the trees. Almost no wind at Harris Lake. Glassy. First time I've ridden this trail. Very fun and nice lake payoff at the turn-around. Only one state of WA truck in the parking lot when I got there, and full of cars and trucks when I got back. Well worth it for the views, the lake, and the fun trail that has been created.


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gCBfOTjA59s
  • 07-27-2014
    Mr. Lynch
    5 of us rode Hansen Ridge today as sort of shuttle. We left cars at exit 42 and after the lake we worked our way over to McClellan Butte trail via old logging roads. It was nice to have the 2nd half of the ride be mostly descending vs the up and down of the normal out and back. Total miles was a little over 17 miles vs. nearly 20 of the out and back option, but you get several thousand feet more descending!

    I also took a pair of floaty tubes out to the lake and ate pizza out in the middle of it



    I put the rings in a dry bag and stashed then next to the lake. If your heading up there and want to use them PM me and I will share the location!

    Borneo and myself checking out the views on the way to McClellan Butte.

  • 07-27-2014
    Tarekith
    I know where I'm headed this week :)
  • 07-27-2014
    Borneo
    When I wasn't fixing yet another of my 4 flats....

    Killer day though! Perfect temps. Thanks for setting it up Mr. Lynch! The run down to McClellan was very cool. Just need to figure out how to make this a good loop now...

    Kudos to Westra et al. The recent work accompanied by the rain made the dirt in the just mint.
  • 07-27-2014
    Navigator
    So did you shuttle and descend McClellan Butte trail to I-90? Which exit? We did that last year but passed that trail and took the road all the way out. Loooong ride.
  • 07-27-2014
    Borneo
    Yep. I shuttled. :)

    Exit 42...

    When the lower road from the lake gets converted to trail it will be so much more awesome. But, great forested double track none the less.
  • 07-27-2014
    Mr. Lynch
    McClellan Butte trail head is a 1/4 mile off exit 42. Then you can take Tinkham up to FR5510 or take I-90 to exit 47 and go the normal way (about 5 minutes faster).

    I will post of some video of the ride along the route we took and and also show all the new trailwork on phase 2. They redid a huge chunk of road and it is almost unreconizable even from 2 weeks ago. I have some good footage that compares the two.

    Borneo- Tubeless FTW!!!
  • 07-27-2014
    Mookie
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Ladmo View Post
    A couple pictures and panoramic video shots from this morning. I was out early and saw some great morning light through the trees. Almost no wind at Harris Lake. Glassy. First time I've ridden this trail. Very fun and nice lake payoff at the turn-around. Only one state of WA truck in the parking lot when I got there, and full of cars and trucks when I got back. Well worth it for the views, the lake, and the fun trail that has been created.


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gCBfOTjA59s

    Nice panoramas of the area. Thanks for posting, Ladmo.
  • 07-27-2014
    Mookie
    Lynch, Borneo, I didn't know about that shuttling option. Hansen is looking better all the time.
  • 07-27-2014
    Mr. Lynch
    Neither did we until I started scouting Google earth and chatting with a few that know the area. We basically just went for it and hoped for the best. It turned out great, just be aware of sharp pointy rock!

    Here is how to find the rafts at the lake:
    face the lake a look to your left for a faint path going up a small hill. Follow that up maybe 20- 30ft until you come across a large log on your right. Walk down the left side of the log and look under the branches of a young fir growing next to it. It is a lime green dry bag with two inflateable rings inside.

    Blow up and enjoy! Then hopefully put back for others to use.
  • 07-27-2014
    Mookie
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Mr. Lynch View Post
    Neither did we until I started scouting Google earth and chatting with a few that know the area. We basically just went for it and hoped for the best. It turned out great, just be aware of sharp pointy rock!

    Here is how to find the rafts at the lake:
    face the lake a look to your left for a faint path going up a small hill. Follow that up maybe 20- 30ft until you come across a large log on your right. Walk down the left side of the log and look under the branches of a young fir growing next to it. It is a lime green dry bag with two inflateable rings inside.

    Blow up and enjoy! Then hopefully put back for others to use.

    Great work scouting the potential and then going for it! I noted Borneo's 4 flats, there must be plenty of sharpies along the route.

    Lol, with the inflatables, there's more incentive than ever to get to the lake now. We'll have to bring some wine and cheese next time. Looking forward to the video. :thumbsup:
  • 07-28-2014
    Mr. Lynch
    The bugs are pretty bad in the stopping area next to the lake, but not an issue out in the middle!
    I can post of a map of the route we took if people are interested. There is 1 spot we walked a river crossing, but it probably could have been ridden.
  • 07-28-2014
    Ladmo
    FWIW, there were no bugs active near the lake when i was there earlier - 9:15 or so. I flatted on the ride out also. Had a great place to enjoy the view while I sat and threw a tube in, so all's good.
  • 07-28-2014
    Mr. Lynch
    Were you solo? I think we past you (group of 5) on the way in. We got to the lake around 10:30 or so and the biting flies were out in force.

    We had a total of 5 flats. 4 by Borneo, and a ripped sidewall by another guy. Stupid s-Works tires. There are lots of sharp pointy rocks everywhere so flats seem to be fairly common.
  • 07-28-2014
    Ladmo
    Yes, that was me. Your group was the first of many riders I met up with while heading back to the start. Also saw a group of 8 - 10 hikers starting up phase II. When I got back to the lot, the temp was rising. Others were just getting ready to start the ride. Recommend going early. The temp when i started was 50, which was perfect for the climbing, and by the time I got to the lake, it was very comfortable.
  • 07-28-2014
    CoyoteNW
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Mr. Lynch View Post
    The bugs are pretty bad in the stopping area next to the lake, but not an issue out in the middle!
    I can post of a map of the route we took if people are interested. There is 1 spot we walked a river crossing, but it probably could have been ridden.

    Definitely interested, please do!
  • 07-28-2014
    HighFivenWhiteGuy
    Thanks for the work Mike, the ride was a lot of fun. Reworked sections looked and rode great! Would have been even better if the road down to McClellan Butte was trail, but hey it was still better than a toasty climb back to the HR trail head.

    Borneo... did you get any pictures from the ride? I have some I can send you.
  • 07-28-2014
    Mr. Lynch
    I totally agree about starting early. We started about an hour later than I had hope and I was cooking by the time we hit the lake. Made for a great swim though.
  • 07-28-2014
    mwestra2
    Thanks for all the reports! Looks awesome.

    Did you notice the old stand of trees on the 510RD (between the end of the Carter Creek "singletrack" and the Harris Lake Rd / 9020 RD intersection)? Beautiful in there!

    The entire 510 RD can be completely obliterated in Phase 3. In other words, we don't need to meander back & forth across the old road prism like P1 and P2, but can completely pull up the fill slope and do a full road-to-trail conversion.
  • 07-28-2014
    trees4me
    We were out on Saturday. Left the TH at about noon. There was a group shooting semi-autos at the TH and lots of broken glass/debris, but once we got out in the woods it was nice. Shuttling seems crazy to me, as it misses the most enjoyable trail: the descent on p1 back to the car. All the conversions were fun and more technical than I was expecting due to all the scree rocks (sharp angular).

    Those smooth rock bridge/trail sections are really amazing! Fantastic work by the builders!

    We had 1 flat, and a lake swim all to ourselves. Another couple showed up as we were leaving. With the lake at the end, this is a must ride in August/Sept for anyone in the area.

    Due to a ridiculous amount of mechanicals this year, I converted over to SS for the ride. 32x19 was too fast for me, and it was all I could do to ride the steep sections. I'd advise a gear about like grand ridge, it's pretty much all up or down. Surprising for a road conversion, but very nice!
  • 07-28-2014
    Mr. Lynch
    The conversion done to the short road climb between the two singletrack sections on P2 was amazing. It looks really good.
    it also looks like the singletrack at the bottom of the P2 big descent was reworked too. It was beautiful with nice flowing buff trail.
  • 07-28-2014
    mwestra2
    I'll report the shooting to the USFS. I know it's a pain and cell service is limited, but we really need to call 911 every time we see shooting up there. Please spread the word.

    All of the "No Shooting" signs at the TH have been shot down and the kiosk was burned to the ground, but there are multiple "No shooting at Hansen Ridge TH" signs on the road leading up to the TH *and* there are several legal shooting spots along the road. So there's no excuse to shoot there. The WCC crew spent an entire morning picking up shells and glass, and restoring some order to the parking area.

    Gotta keep the positive cycle going... less shooting & less broken glass -> more attractive to users --> more users --> more 911 calls + more attention to what's going on up there --> less attractive to shooters/vandalism --> less shooting & less broken glass --> even more attractive to users --> yadayada. But more shooting & vandalism... you get the picture.
  • 07-28-2014
    Mr. Lynch
    There were people shooting when we got back to the car, but they had air rifles. Not sure where that falls into the mix. Looked like a dad teaching his son to shoot.

    Here is a quick map of the route we took from the lake to exit 42. It is a very straight forward ride with no real chance to get lost. From the T (orange line) where you normally go right to go back to the Hansen Ridge trailhead you stay left and follow the road. It is crazy steep for a bit then mellows out. I had it at 4.6 miles from the "T" to the start of McClellan Butte trail.

  • 07-28-2014
    Borneo
    Mike, are you advocating more attractive users? Sounds a little biased to me... ;) the good looking people already get all the fun I hear.
    So, is ALL the road to the gate above McClellan Butte trail crossing getting demo'd? The lower portion across the contour won't need that much and it is already really nice woods. Even bringing the doubletrack down to single by putting diversions in the road bet would be fine for me. And, not nearly as much work. Lower Phil's trails style where the d-track is now meandering single track.
  • 07-28-2014
    HighFivenWhiteGuy
    I would hope if the lower section of road is converted you folks will take your time with it... too much elevation change not to take advantage of.