Fire in Devils Gulch

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  • 07-29-2010
    shiggy
    Fire in Devils Gulch
    We had a huge thunder storm hit last evening.

    Started numerous fires including one being tagged as Devils Gulch. Said to be 60-70 acres as of this morning with fire crews on the scene.

    Between 5 and 7 pm a highly localized storm dropped 1.5-3.0 inches of rain and hail on Wenatchee, causing mudslides and flooding. No. 2 Canyon Road is closed because of slides and flooding.

    http://www.wenatcheeworld.com/news/2...intersections/
  • 07-29-2010
    juice
    This is interesting. The Devils/Mission area has been a concern for backcountry fire fighters for a while, due to the politics of not doing controlled burns. Lots of fuel in there, and if they don't get it under control, could be a really big burn.

    I was chatting with the Forest Service fire crew chief a few years ago when getting chainsaw certified. The science and politics behind wildland fires is really interesting.
  • 07-29-2010
    shiggy
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by juice
    This is interesting. The Devils/Mission area has been a concern for backcountry fire fighters for a while, due to the politics of not doing controlled burns. Lots of fuel in there, and if they don't get it under control, could be a really big burn.

    I was chatting with the Forest Service fire crew chief a few years ago when getting chainsaw certified. The science and politics behind wildland fires is really interesting.

    And there is a lot of fuel in there that is beyond the help of any controlled burn.
  • 07-29-2010
    verslowrdr
    The Table Mountain/Lion Rock area has so much old, dead, diseased crap stuffed in there that it's going to be insane when it finally goes. If the DG fire really gets rollin', who knows how far it could spread....
  • 07-29-2010
    All_talk
  • 07-29-2010
    verslowrdr
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by All_talk

    Thanks for the link.
    "Because of public and firefighter safety concerns and threat of fire in the area, people are asked to avoid using roads and trails in the following areas: Mission Creek, Sand Ck, Devils Gulch, Beehive Reservoir, Liberty-Beehive Road and Tronsen Ridge."
    Bummer...
  • 07-30-2010
    jojotherider
    bummer. Last night I was actually just starting to plan out a trip there in two weeks.
  • 07-30-2010
    shiggy
  • 07-30-2010
    gticlay
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by shiggy
    And there is a lot of fuel in there that is beyond the help of any controlled burn.

    Due to decades of neglect.
  • 07-30-2010
    verslowrdr
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by gticlay
    Due to decades of neglect.

    FWIW I was just talking to Mikki Douglass @ the Cle Elum FS on my lunch today, and she said that some regional folks had actually requested to thin out some obviously problem areas... and were shot down. By someone. I'm assuming it was the usual adminisphere vs peeps-in-the-trench thing. The really annoying part is that vast swaths of what COULD have been commercially productive forest have succombed to budworm and beetles in the meantime, and needless to say are spawning ground for these pest's continued spread into currently healthy stands.

    So at this point they're keenly aware of the local fuel buildup spots, and like the rest of us are pretty much just waiting for them to go up. :madman:
  • 07-30-2010
    shiggy
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by verslowrdr
    FWIW I was just talking to Mikki Douglass @ the Cle Elum FS on my lunch today, and she said that some regional folks had actually requested to thin out some obviously problem areas... and were shot down. By someone. I'm assuming it was the usual adminisphere vs peeps-in-the-trench thing. The really annoying part is that vast swaths of what COULD have been commercially productive forest have succombed to budworm and beetles in the meantime, and needless to say are spawning ground for these pest's continued spread into currently healthy stands.

    So at this point they're keenly aware of the local fuel buildup spots, and like the rest of us are pretty much just waiting for them to go up.

    I really do not want this to turn into a debate on management practices past and present.

    The current conditions are what they are, and what will happen will happen. We also have many areas where it is not practical to get into for any sort of major work. Just too steep/remote, which is why they were not cut in the past.
  • 07-30-2010
    gearz
    That looks like Mission Ridge, can't tell for sure.
  • 07-30-2010
    shiggy
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by gearz
    That looks like Mission Ridge, can't tell for sure.

    I am guessing that it is a ridge just the east of the DG/MR ridge and west of Rd 7100. No roads or trails in there.
  • 08-02-2010
    shiggy
    Now in mop up phase.
  • 08-02-2010
    JCOX98
    is any part of mission creek road blocked off for access? was going to ride the gulch on thurs
  • 08-02-2010
    shiggy
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by JCOX98
    is any part of mission creek road blocked off for access? was going to ride the gulch on thurs

    The whole area is closed to public access until further notice.
  • 08-05-2010
    BikeIntelligencer
    Devils Gulch/Mission Ridge may open by weekend
    Forest Service in Leavenworth says fire is 100 pct lined, no trails were affected, and area may be open by tomorrow (Friday 8/6). Looks like we dodged the bullet.
  • 08-05-2010
    shiggy
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by BikeIntelligencer
    Forest Service in Leavenworth says fire is 100 pct lined, no trails were affected, and area may be open by tomorrow (Friday 8/6). Looks like we dodged the bullet.

    Yup. As of this morning roads accessing the area are still closed to all but fire personnel.
  • 08-06-2010
    gticlay
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by verslowrdr
    FWIW I was just talking to Mikki Douglass @ the Cle Elum FS on my lunch today, and she said that some regional folks had actually requested to thin out some obviously problem areas... and were shot down. By someone. I'm assuming it was the usual adminisphere vs peeps-in-the-trench thing. The really annoying part is that vast swaths of what COULD have been commercially productive forest have succombed to budworm and beetles in the meantime, and needless to say are spawning ground for these pest's continued spread into currently healthy stands.

    So at this point they're keenly aware of the local fuel buildup spots, and like the rest of us are pretty much just waiting for them to go up. :madman:

    I make part of my living writing about forest thinning... it's a serious problem set up by da gov't and various other people. Too bad :(
  • 08-06-2010
    north20
    Closure has been lifted:

    http://www.inciweb.org/incident/article/2052/10364/

    Still a heavy haze of smoke in the Wenatchee Valley and surrounding areas due to other fires in the region.
  • 08-08-2010
    gticlay
    Drove through the pass last night. Still smells pretty smoky in the area. Man, I forgot just how far away it is from me!