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    Cool-blue Rhythm electric bikes on wa trails?

    so it looks likes the electric bike craze may be taking off so what are your thoughts on people riding them on wa trails? i want to get a bomber Stealth Electric Bikes USA - Stealth Electric Bikes USA - Electric Bikes | E-Bikes | Electric Bicycles | Electric Mountain bikes for my commute to work being < 5 miles one way. someone posted a reward and signs in Japanese gulch for a vid or the name of whoever was riding one and no electric bikes on the trails but my thought is if there not destroying the trail anymore then I am whats the problem.

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    Even though they have pedals they are MOTORIZED.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eerie View Post
    Even though they have pedals they are MOTORIZED.
    Agreed. Keep them off trails designated for non-motorized use only.
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    Yep. Fancy electric moped. They look like fun, but are not bicycles, and should probably be treated as motos for purposes of trail access. Given their substantially higher weight (over 115 lbs) and much higher power/torque (about 6hp peak), they most likely will have much more impact on trails than bicycles will... just like motos do.

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    ya the stealth is like 115 lbs so with my 230lb that pretty heavy compared to my 30lb bike and me. just wondering cause we are going to see more and its going to come up at some point if they will be allowed on the mtb trails or not

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    Quote Originally Posted by mrosey View Post
    ya the stealth is like 115 lbs so with my 230lb that pretty heavy compared to my 30lb bike and me. just wondering cause we are going to see more and its going to come up at some point if they will be allowed on the mtb trails or not
    Pretty clear to me. If motos are allowed, yes. If not, no.

    Want to see somebody pedal one out after the battery dies.
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    Taking off? Where? Friends shouldn't let friends buy/ride electric bikes.....

    Can't wait to see the first poseur with one at Duthie....

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    Quote Originally Posted by shiggy View Post
    Pretty clear to me. If motos are allowed, yes. If not, no.

    Want to see somebody pedal one out after the battery dies.
    that would be a great workout lol.

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    Im way outa shape, me and my buddies always joke about having our bikes motorized, it would be so much easier to get to the top, however, having a motor, even and electric motor, makes it a motorcycle. just go get a 250.

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    It's a pretty serious question that our King County Parks folks are going to have to sort out. The link posted above has the look and feel of a moto, so I agree it should be banned on trails for non-motorized use only.

    However, what about the electric assist bikes like the link below? They're essentially regular bikes and the electric motor assists you in going a bit faster. Many people would benefit riding these to/from work on the rail-trails we have.

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    Not too keen on seeing electric assist bikes on rail trails, even paved; but, willing to keep an open mind. On soft-surface trails? Never: a recipe for both physical and political disaster.

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    Don't get me wrong, electric assist bikes qualify (in my mind) the same as mopeds and shouldn't be used anywhere that motorized bikes are prohibited. But the electric assist are so similar to regular bikes (you are required to pedal them, they don't move if you don't pedal) that it will be a challening question for Parks staff.

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    Linked Stealth bikes look like motos. Should be considered a moto.

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    The stealth bikes was the one i seen first and to me they look like a fun ride. Also the stealth is more for down hill so i was thinking places like tiger or Stevens pass is where i think they would be used. i only takes one stupid kid tearing up a trail doing burnouts and the such to ruin it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mrosey View Post
    The stealth bikes was the one i seen first and to me they look like a fun ride. Also the stealth is more for down hill so i was thinking places like tiger or Stevens pass is where i think they would be used. i only takes one stupid kid tearing up a trail doing burnouts and the such to ruin it.
    Non-motorized trails are non-motorized. Where would you draw the line?
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    My wife is a CPA, so I got my bike notarized.
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    Quote Originally Posted by shiggy View Post
    Non-motorized trails are non-motorized. Where would you draw the line?
    thats the issue im asking. i guess there has been one around the Japanese gulch area from the signs ive seen asking to report him or her if its seen on the trails. technically if they pedal it and not use the elec motor it is a bike, but using the elec motor makes it a scooter also most can be pedaled and the motor used at the same time making it a hybrid, so how would you police it. I guess you could exclude them on the trails but people are going to argue the its a bike that i can pedal and i only use the motor on the up hills bla bla bla... and never on the trails yada yada yada.

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    What if someone were to push a 250 lb dirt bike? Is it still a motorized vehicle? (yep) Should mopeds be treated as bicycles also simply because they can be pedaled? (nope). I think the presence of a motor is a bright-line differentiator.

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    A motor is a motor, electric, gas, steam, whatever. Technically, some say if it's gas powered it's actually an engine and if electric it's a motor... never the less, electric powered vehicles are already included in most land management(s) list of "motorized vehicles". Even if your not using the motor, the vehicle has been "motorized".

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    Could be a game changer for local IPA fueled night rides.

    Also, I'd expect to see these sooner or later at a bike park like Whistler. I'd probably wear a mustache and a pair of dark shades if I rented one at Whistler, but really- how freakin' cool would it be to have an uphill bike park!

    Get the weight down to about 80lbs and we'll all have one :-)

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    Only people sick in the head would consider an uphill bike park. You climbing guys are taking things too far to avoid the flow !

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    I dunno....going 20 mph UP A line, and skying up all of the jumps would be pretty sick. And flowy.
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    I dunno....going 20 mph UP A line, and skying up all of the jumps would be pretty sick. And flowy.

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    Re: electric bikes on wa trails?

    Which part of NOn-motorized is hard to understand?

    To be clear: No, No, No,No, No!

    Stay after class and write NO until the blackboard is full.

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