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    White Clay trail conditions

    Anyone ride WC in the past week? I want to head there tomorrow, but wonder if the trails are dry from all the rain last week.

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    Well I realize I am late but I rode middle run yesterday and found it mostly dry but soupy at spots. Watch out for them because they will surprise you when you hit one. Almost fell twice within the first minute of my ride.

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    Any beginners ride during the week?

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    If it keeps raining on the weekends I may need to ditch work to get a weekday ride in. It's going on 4 weeks ffs! More rain forecast for this weekend too.

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    I'm down from Tuesdays-Thursdays. I work weekends

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    Riding during the week is better I think cuz of less people walking the trails.

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    A couple night of freeze/thaw created some slick trails over the weekend, but according to what I'm hearing trails are ok now.

    Official, organized rides are pretty much over for the season. Wooden Wheels has a Wednesday Night ride out of the Pike Creek Shopping Center lot, call them for more info.

    Henry's Bikes is located right at the trailhead, so they're usually a good source of info for current trail conditions.

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    anybody ride there recently? I am just wondering if the snow that hit us up in Pennsylvania made it down that way either in the form of rain or snow, we are looking to ride somewhere near Philly on Sunday and figured if we head south from up in northeastern PA we might be OK
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    I live 15 miles south of white clay and we have about 4inches of snow laying on the ground atm. Haven't hit any trails since the snow so don't know what the trails look like.

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    Gah. Ok, thanks!
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    Quote Originally Posted by XJaredX View Post
    anybody ride there recently? I am just wondering if the snow that hit us up in Pennsylvania made it down that way either in the form of rain or snow, we are looking to ride somewhere near Philly on Sunday and figured if we head south from up in northeastern PA we might be OK
    Newark got the most snow in the region last sunday. 12"

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    I've ran Middle Run three times this week since the snow. I don't know how it would translate into the 2-wheeled world since I'm a trail runner, but as of tonight, the trails have some sections of ice, some powder, some packed snow, and a few areas of exposed trail. It's a good technical run, so I'm assuming it would be the same for a bike.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Trailrunner33 View Post
    I've ran Middle Run three times this week since the snow. I don't know how it would translate into the 2-wheeled world since I'm a trail runner, but as of tonight, the trails have some sections of ice, some powder, some packed snow, and a few areas of exposed trail. It's a good technical run, so I'm assuming it would be the same for a bike.
    Thanks for the post! We are getting a good amount of snow up here so we are hitting up a cx race and going sledding with the kiddos tomorrow instead of heading south.
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    Rode middle run today. 90% of the trails are clear. Other 10% being ice/snow in frequent 10ft patches. Did see a handful of mtb tracks as well In the snow. Only muddy in a few spots.

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    I'm heading out tomorrow night(Thursday) late at middle run. I'll post an update.

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    Anyone else planning on riding on Saturday? Weather is looking like it's going to cooperate.

    If anyone rides today or tomorrow I'd love to know if things are slick out there. Need to decide on the 29er or fat bike for this weekend.

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    Rode white clay David English trail (personal favorite downhill) was pretty muddy. When it wasn't muddy it was snow covered. Defiantly made the ride more technical. Was happy with my goblins ability to climb on snow though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by schlava View Post
    I'm heading out tomorrow night(Thursday) late at middle run. I'll post an update.
    Schlava - Did you ride Middle Run last night? If so, how were the trail conditions?
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    I rode Middle Run this morning. I did a loop of basically the outer limits of MR including Possum Hollow, Snow Goose, and Lenape. Rode it counter clockwise. I'd say it's 50/50. There were good spots and bad spots. However, as the temperatures rise, some of the spots I considered good today will no longer be that way. The snow covered parts of the trail that were good today are gonna be messy once it melts. I think the next few days will allow things to dry out more, but I will not be back this weekend based on what I saw today. I'm gonna wait until the middle of next week when things get cold again so the trail can freeze up. Hopefully someone else can give us an update by then. If you do ride, be careful because there are some fairly slick spots. Also be preparted to get dirty. Happy Holidays!

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    Can't believe people are trying to ride there the last few days. Guess I shouldn't be surprised by anything at this point.

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    No I never made it out. Based upon ebay riders report I may stay off and just try brandywine tomorrow. Bwine seems to have a harder base and may be in slightly better shape. But I do agree that I bet the warmth and thawing may just bring up to much moisture over the next couple days.

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    I rode Brandywine yesterday and its predominantly snow and iced covered. Slick bud definitely doable. Just be careful on the steep declines. After today though it probably all melted and will be pretty greasy.

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    Rode middle run about mid day today. Middle run seems much better then white clay right now. Was maybe 30% muddy with other stuff just damp. Ima ride again tomorrow hoping it dried even more.

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    Tried getting in Brandywine before the rain sunday. Total soup. Turned around went home. After today's rain it's gonna be a while. Need freezing temps.

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    Going to be mud for the next week or so with the freeze/thaw happening. Might want to ride Fair Hill instead.

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    I heard iron hill is supposed to have good drainage.

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    I rode brandywine yesterday. The field trails that were in sunlight were sloppy the trails were perfect. It's pretty frozen out there. The eariler in the day you can go the better it will be.

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    Gonna try to ride fair hill or white clay tomorrow looks like that's gonna be the best time weather wise for awhile. Never been to white clay,but I will post a report either way.

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    You figure it will be rideable after that huge dump of rain sunday and temps above freezing?

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    I rode below the dam Saturday. It was very mushy and I had to walk climbs that are normally doable on my SS. No traction. I would love to get back to WC but I think its best to stay off the trails in the freeze/melt days until we either get cold enough to freeze up completely or dry enough to not damage the trails.

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    Rode iron hill today. Was actually pretty pleased with how dry it was. Rode about 3 miles and only hit maybe 6 short mud spots the whole time. 95 percent was pretty dry/moist.

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    Rode WC for the first time today,awesome place can't wait to hit all the trails. There was a lot of bikers ,as well hikers there today. The trails started getting muddy later in the day. I wiped out pretty good today shootting down through one of the fields the bike just washed right out from under me,had a blast though.

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    Any updates to the conditions after the snow and frozen rain lately? Wondering if DE fared better than the trails up near Philly.
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    Quote Originally Posted by joshhan View Post
    Any updates to the conditions after the snow and frozen rain lately? Wondering if DE fared better than the trails up near Philly.
    Well the trails were almost clear of snow until yesterday we got another 2 inches. We are supposed to get weather into the 40s In a few days so hopefully that knocks the snow away off the trails.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sti2.5ldohc View Post
    Well the trails were almost clear of snow until yesterday we got another 2 inches. We are supposed to get weather into the 40s In a few days so hopefully that knocks the snow away off the trails.
    Latest forecast is for heavy snow on Wed night into Thursday.

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    My weather report is just saying snow, sleet, rain. I don't think it will amount to much.

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    I hope not. I'm as sick of this crap as anyone but...
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    Agreed. I've done enough snow riding to last me awhile. I miss clear trails.

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    I'm assuming everything is still a sloppy mess? Rain forecasted this weekend on top of the melting/melted snow. Is this accurate?
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    Well right now everything is probably frozen. Tonight it's supposed to snow but then warm up for like 5 days straight which will hopefully take out the snow. If the temp drops after that it will be rideable but if it doesn't freeze it's gonna be a mess for awhile.

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    Can anybody provide current conditions? Thanks in advance.

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    Wouldn't expect to ride white clay for awhile. Once the snow starts melting it will be a mud pit for awhile.

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    Yea, with the snow we got Monday and the highs in the 40s I'd imagine White Clay is a slushy/muddy mess. Wouldn't be surprised if we have to wait a couple weeks, the weather just isn't looking very promising.

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    Thanks. I'll check back in a couple weeks. I won't be passing down that way until the week of the March 24th.

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    Quote Originally Posted by huffster View Post
    Thanks. I'll check back in a couple weeks. I won't be passing down that way until the week of the March 24th.
    If WCC isn't ready by then just ride Brandywine instead. It seems to drain better from what I've seen. I think the trails there are more fun anyways.

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    ^OK, good option. I've found the map at: http://www.destateparks.com/download...wine-Creek.pdf

    Any recommendations on a good route that might be ~10-12 miles?

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    ^^^ not too familiar to recommend a course but here's a more detailed map. Brandywine Creek State Park | Park Trail Maps | Mountain Biking | Hiking | GpsTrailSource

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    Please report back if the conditions at Brandywine are good. I'm so done with the double track gravel trails at Fair Hill...

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    I was at brandywine the other day on the rocky run portion and that was good to go.

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    Huh... I've never used a map there at all, so I couldn't really recommend a route. We usually park at the Jewish center and keep banging rights for a while, then down and back up a few times on different routes. When we're done we just head back up to the top and follow the trail back. Would love to see if there's a good route though!

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    How's WC / Middle Run now? The snow has been gone for a while, has it dried out?

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    ^^^^ I'd assume middle run is good. White clay is probably still wet in spots. But gonna snow tonight so all will be lost.

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    Thanks. Depending on weather, I may try to ride there this weekend.

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    The ground in Newark is pretty saturated in general, but if anyone checks out the trails this weekend an update would be awesome. Would love to try to get a short ride in on Sunday, but I suspect it's still not dry.

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    Quote Originally Posted by formula4speed View Post
    The ground in Newark is pretty saturated in general, but if anyone checks out the trails this weekend an update would be awesome. Would love to try to get a short ride in on Sunday, but I suspect it's still not dry.
    +1. Even if you are walking or running on the trails, please give an update.
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    I saw a post on Trail Spinners' Facebook page that the trails are in pretty darn good shape at WC/MR.

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    hey guys... never been to white clay.. coming from PA/NJ area.. want to head down there tomorrow .. think it's worth it with the conditions?

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    I wouldn't head down here yet do to some rain on Wednesday. If you want to ride in the area, I would go to Brandywine Creek State Park

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    I am planning to go here or to Wissahickon tomorrow. Is it dry enough to ride?

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    ^^^ I would say at the very least middle run should be fine. Probably white clay as well. Or brandywine like others has suggested

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    you guys are super! thank you! I'm probably going to hold of for a few more weeks to get down there... Rode today local and can't wait to come south to ride.

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    Rode middle run Saturday & it was perfect.

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    Alright WC/Middle Run locals, how're the trails holding up to the recent rain? I'm heading up tomorrow afternoon to visit my wife's extended family in Wilmington this weekend and I'd love to get away for a ride.

    I know there's a chance of rain forecast for tomorrow/Saturday. So if the trails are already swampy, I'll leave the bike at home. But if they're riding fine now, I'll bring it and decide when we get up there.

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    Right now the trails are in pretty decent shape, but we are expecting more rain tonight going into tomorrow. Not sure how much we are expecting though. Saturday looks dry and sunny so I'm hoping things will be in good shape for a Sunday ride.

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    Riding brandyine right now and its great

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    Did a short loop yesterday, Whitley Farms and Bryans Field (?). Trails were great, going back out again after work tonight before the rain rolls in tomorrow.

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    1st trip to WC today. Rode mostly Middle Run,Bryan's Field area. Trail has lots of sharps turns & switchbacks, with trees right ON the trail, both sides. Keeps you on your toes. I run short bars (640mm), If you are running wide ones i would guess you really need to watch out. I was challenged at the skills trail.
    Question: What is the best way to ride the logs/skinnies/elevated trails? I tried sitting,standing,slow,fast. I can't say one way worked better than another.
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    ^^^^ I think sitting down is the easiest way to balance because that's how you normally ride the trails. However I often stand up incase I fall off the side. They take practice.

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    I've been riding there for 2 years now . I use 720mm bars and want to switch to 750mm. I haven't had any issues .
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    1st trip to WC today. Rode mostly Middle Run,Bryan's Field area. Trail has lots of sharps turns & switchbacks, with trees right ON the trail, both sides. Keeps you on your toes. I run short bars (640mm), If you are running wide ones i would guess you really need to watch out. I was challenged at the skills trail.
    Question: What is the best way to ride the logs/skinnies/elevated trails? I tried sitting,standing,slow,fast. I can't say one way worked better than another.
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    Think they'll be ridable today or too muddy?

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    I forgot to reply last night, but the trails were perfect yesterday. If you have time to go today, before it rains all week, you'll be pleased.

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    Anyone check out the trails since we got hammered with rain last week?

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    Quote Originally Posted by formula4speed View Post
    Anyone check out the trails since we got hammered with rain last week?

    I was out there yesterday. Trail was actually in pretty good shape considering. It was slightly damp, there were some spots out in the open that were a little muddy. Definetely ridable, i rode for a few hrs.
    They need to cut the tree blocking the skinnies on the skills trail. It's been there a while.

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    Rode there Saturday and Monday. Sat was a bit on the damp side; still very rideable. We did get some rain on Tuesday, but hopefully things will be dry by tomorrow & the weekend. Ride it!!!

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    Think W/C will be rideable tomorrow? It's been raining pretty much all day today in MD but i'm an hr. away from Newark so not sure how much it rained there.

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    It's been raining most of the afternoon here in Newark, combined with the rain we got yesterday riding tomorrow is probably pushing it. I'm hoping for good conditions Saturday if the sun comes out tomorrow.

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    Unfortunately not. If we have clear weather tomorrow then Saturday afternoon should be ok. We have had a lot of rain this spring, so the trails are being slow to dry out. I plan to ride Sunday so they can dry out more.
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    How is white clay? A few friends are thinking about coming down this sat to go riding. With rain on Thursday, do you think it will be to wet to ride on Saturday? My gut says yes.

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    White clay is good to go right now. So as long as it doesn't rain a ton I think it will be good for the weekend.

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    You should be OK, though the devil is in the details. In this case the devil is how much rain we get on Thursday. The trails are very nice right now.
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    We got rain in the area yesterday and last night and more rain to come tomorrow. I would check back Friday night and see if anyone was out there and can report. I agree that the way things look now it will be ok by Saturday, but the longer you can wait the better.

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    Thanks for the update. Schedule has changed, probably coming down on the 21st. Lets hope for good weather!

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    I was looking to ride White Clay tomorrow. How well does the place drain? Would it be rideable tomorrow or should we just bag it until Sunday?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fam Money View Post
    I was looking to ride White Clay tomorrow. How well does the place drain? Would it be rideable tomorrow or should we just bag it until Sunday?
    We got a lot of rain through here this week. I would bag it til Sunday and the later the better.

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    Yeah, I saw it mirrored ours up here in central PA. I guess we'll push it back until Sunday. Thanks for the reply.

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    I was at White Clay yesterday (Monday, 6/16) and the three loops are good to go for anyone who is wondering.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JL911 View Post
    I was at White Clay yesterday (Monday, 6/16) and the three loops are good to go for anyone who is wondering.
    Awesome, I will be taking a friend for his first time today.

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    The trails were nice Sunday afternoon. With 2 more days of drying they should be in great shape. The only issue I found on Sunday was a massive (30"+) diameter tree with two large forks has fallen across Cart Path and completely blocks the trail. You'll have to climb over it if you go that far North.

    For anyone familiar with Cart Path, the fallen tree used to be arched over the trail and we ducked under it as we climbed. I guess that rot got the better of it and the tree has collapsed.
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    Hell again. Did Newark get rain yesterday? Will the trails be good for tomorrow? Or best wait for another weekend?

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    The rain here in Newark was pretty light yesterday and the sun is out today so I think you'll be fine for tomorrow. Right now the forecast says there is a 30% chance of rain tomorrow (Saturday), so keep that in mind.

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    Thanks, decisions decisions decisions.

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    We had a whole bunch of rain down near Aberdeen MD. Was wondering if any of it hit Newark. I was hoping to go hit White Clay for the 4th of July but think it might be wet.

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    I'm in Pa and we got hammered but radar showed whiteclay got less. Anyone able to give a update on if it will be good to go tomorrow?
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    We currently have scattered rainstorms in the area, and it is supposed to stay cloudy until tomorrow. Saturday afternoon the trails will probably still be soft, but how much water the trees and plants suck up is the wild card. If they were thirsty that could dry things out faster.

    I've already postponed riding until Sunday to let the trails dry out more. Last Monday the trails were nice and dry, and the least rolling resistance I have felt this year. I set a lot of personal records that day.
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    We actually went Saturday and the biggest issue seemed to be random tree's and branch's down. We moved what we could but there's a few large ones that need saw's. 1 was in the skill's area and 1 was across the long double track climb. We actually moved 1 other big one off to the side on the long double track climb. We moved as much of the small stuff we found as well.

    Awesome trail network, always good for a fun weekend away from the normal!
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    Was out there yesterday. The huge downed tree across the skinnies on the skills trail has been there a while but you could ride under it. Now there is another tree down just beyond it, so you have to walk your bike over it. They need chainsaws for these i believe. Other than that, trails were in good shape. Corkscrew & Logzilla trails are always fun.

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    Has anyone checked out the trails in the last day or two? Newark has gotten quite a bit of rain in the last week.

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    The amount of rain wasn't actually too bad, I'm going to check out the trails tonight. I think they'll be fine, probably some soft spots in low areas. Still keep an eye out for downed trees, ran into a bunch when riding last weekend.

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    Ok great! If the trails look ok for riding, I am going to head there tomorrow AM.

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