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    White Clay/Middle Run/Redd Park - Trail Maintenance/Building

    Many thanks to this wonderful group of young men that dedicated a few hard hours in the humid and mosquito infested woods. Thanks are in order for their group leaders as well. Fantastic group of people through the organization.






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    The Chunnel entrance on the Bryant's Field side was repaired. The bridge that was washed away was reinstalled. The rest of the section was repacked with rocks and gravel. The tunnel was raked and the riding surface raised. We then moved on to another section of Middle Run and worked on drainage issues. Great work by everybody on the team. Special thanks go out to the future spinners: Zack, Maci, and Logan.

    These were not the only efforts of the day. Many teams went out and took care of lots of issues. Trimming, invasive vegetation removal, construction of a platform at a crossing on Fox Den Rd, clearing downed trees, etc, etc, etc. Thank you all very much for your contributions.













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    Awesome work! Thanks, guys.

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    Yeas, it really is appreciated! Thinking of signing up with you guys, so maybe I could come and help, so I can show some respect to everyone who has helped for all this time, for what I get to ride on!

    Not that I have been riding long, or have been there a ton, but would just like to show some respect to you all!
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    Sadly, a lot of this excellent work was washed away in Irene. I was just there yesterday and the new bridge has washed downstream and lodged onto the bridge just downstream and the chunnel riding surface is gone again. The next decent sized group of riders could probably carry the bridge back though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PA Quaker View Post
    Sadly, a lot of this excellent work was washed away in Irene. I was just there yesterday and the new bridge has washed downstream and lodged onto the bridge just downstream and the chunnel riding surface is gone again. The next decent sized group of riders could probably carry the bridge back though.
    How are the trails post Irene? Was thinking of trying to get a ride in towards the end of this week.

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    The trails were in good shape apart from a few wet spots in low areas.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PA Quaker View Post
    Sadly, a lot of this excellent work was washed away in Irene. I was just there yesterday and the new bridge has washed downstream and lodged onto the bridge just downstream and the chunnel riding surface is gone again. The next decent sized group of riders could probably carry the bridge back though.

    I was a bit upset about that bridge. We had just put it back in place about a week or two before Irene. Oh well, the next time I can get three or four people to ride with me I'll see about putting it back in place. The rocks that were laid out there aren't too bad. So, between working on the bridge and the sand in the Chunnel there isn't too much to do.
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    Bridge service restored. All if our volunteer efforts are concentrated at Redd Park so it was a one man job. I only restored the bridge. Couldn't rake the tunnel. I will get to it next time.

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    Nice Leo, Thanks!

    We finally found this over the weekend, water was deep, and definitely a good bit of sand in there too. Was still fun to go through though!
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    What I do is nothing. There are many people performing many thankless tasks in all of the parks in Delaware and Maryland. Heck, I don't even know everything that goes on. There are those that respond to downed trees, others that quickly go out and assess damage. As I said before, there are jobs being performed by many people. Most of which I have not even met yet.

    I found my niche within the group. What I do is I organize volunteer efforts outside of regularly scheduled maintenance work parties. My hope is to gather enough volunteers to cover most of the basics so that the bulk of the work parties can concentrate on bigger and better projects. Currently, our concerns are to take care of drainage issues. Once these are all addressed we will move on to restoring abandoned features, improving others, and adding some. But we are a long way from that. First thing is first, William Redd Park:

    Rich from IMBA. He is an artist with boulders and an excavator.


    Yes, Delaware has real chunk now.


    The rock gardens are coming along nicely.


    All weather trails.


    Lots of rocks. Almost brings a tear to my eyes.


    Thanks for the rocks, Jim.
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    Is William Redd Park near the main White Clay trail system? Or is this new loop near it i think I mean? Do you have to take the road?
    How long is the loop. Can't wait to try it. When will it be open? Would love to help out sometime
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    Any new trails being planned ??

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    Find the Newark reservoir and go up to the top. At the northern end you will find a trail head. Explore the single track and you will find the rocks. That's the newest trail system being worked on. Please be careful if you decide to go there. And please be considerate if you see people working. Thanks.

    There are other ways to get there but for now that's all I'm posting. As soon as I have more time I will get some more info out.
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    Here are some pictures from the last few weeks. Again, if any of you out there want to volunteer your time in White Clay, Middle Run, and/or Redd Park don't hesitate to contact me. I can work with your schedule if you can't make it to scheduled maintenance. Thanks in advance.







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    Calling RabEd Ewok and Phillycore. I and a few coworkers will be helping at Redd Park this Saturday. Around noon we will split and go for a ride. You are all welcome to join us for either the volunteering, riding, or both.

    That invitation goes out to anyone else that may be interested. Just drop me a line so that I can give you contact info. The pace will be moderately slow... maybe fast... I wish I could tell how my legs will behave.
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    I came up from Lenape under the tunnel to find the Brian's field trail closed due to shotgun hunting (Everyday but Sundays). Are Whitely farms and David English closed as well?

    I was riding with friends who were there for the first time and your efforts astonished them. Thanks.
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    Quote Originally Posted by clarence View Post
    I came up from Lenape under the tunnel to find the Brian's field trail closed due to shotgun hunting (Everyday but Sundays). Are Whitely farms and David English closed as well?

    I was riding with friends who were there for the first time and your efforts astonished them. Thanks.
    I think so. However all of Middle Run is open (THIS side of the Rt 72/tunnel). Here's the official hunting info:
    Shotgun Hunting season begins in WCCSP and Lums Pond SP this Friday. the dates are as follows:

    * November 11th thru November 19th (excluding Sundays) (Both parks)
    * December 15th, 16th & 17th (WCCSP only)
    * December 10th thru 17th (excluding Sundays) (Lums Pond only)
    * January 14th thru January 21st, 2012 (excluding Sundays) (Both parks)

    There will be NO shotgan season in Judge Morris but, there will be a special Archery season. The dates are as follows:

    * October 17th thru November 19th (excluding Sundays)
    * December 15th, 16th & 17th
    * January 14th thru January 21st, 2012 (excluding Sundays)

    If you do ride in Judge Morris during these dates please wear bright colors and please limit your stops to a minimum so as not to disturb the hunters.

    For more information please visit the State Parks website and click on ACTIVITIES, then HUNTING, then LOCATIONS or call the park offices WCCSP @ 302-368-6900 or Lums Pond @ 302-368-6989

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    Thanks for a very detailed response on hunting closures.
    Disclaimer: I ride really slow.

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    So this Sunday 11/20 I can go ride all the trails in WC/MR without fear of getting blasted?

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    The rut at the bottom of the hill by the church has been temporarily repaired.

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    I havent been there in a long time....was it really that bad ??

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    No, I just like digging into frozen dirt for hours.






    Lol, just messing with you. For me to be out in the cold it has to be serious!

    Yes, it was that bad. It was right where people land that jump and it was grabbing tires.
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    LOL! I'm sorry for laughing, but the orange shirts, heavy machinery, and a "trail" that's smoother, and wider than the Churchman's Marsh section of I-95, it looks more like a DelDot project.

    Any plans for retail along that section?

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    You caught me. I'm building a kiosk which will feature energy drinks and power bars.
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    A Starbuck's would be nice, and would lend nicely to the to the whole urban promenade feel.

    I'll stop now. Last thing I'm looking for is to have a bunch of folks to show up at my door, all hopped up on mico brews after a Tuesday night meeting at McGlynn's, to deliver a beat-down.

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    You don't have to worry about me. If you only knew how often I find myself on your side of the fence.
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    I think the original proposal was for something much like the Greenway or the Pomeroy Trail out of UD (100ft clear cut then paved) Pomeroy Trail to be completed by 2011 - News - The Review - The independent student newspaper of the University of Delaware since 1882

    The Redd Park project was never advertised as singletrack, but it is (or will be) an all-weather trail with some fairly technical rock gardens along the edges.

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    Redd park has about two miles of singletrack. The rest is an awesome all-weather trail. Pictures don't do it justice. You must see it to appreciate it.

    Shhhh...

    Don't tell Sinker about the kiosk.
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    Speaking of the church, whats the official line on parking there ? Is it ok to park there any time since there's a trailhead right next to the lot ? Do they prefer we not park there on sundays ?

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    There's a new log ride in the White Clay. You can see the old and new in this video.

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    Rode that new log "skinny" (not really that skinny), was lots of fun, came into it from around the corner carrying some speed, didnt know it was there, saw it last second, flew up on it and had a blast railing it...turned around and did it again...great job...thanks!

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    I like that log ride because its wide and it can be taken at speed... Says the guy that rode on it slow.
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    Work in progress.

    The following is a feature in a set of features being installed in Middle Run. Some features are finished and others are not. Ride at your own risk.

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    The line I was working on above is done. The second intermediate line is also done. Today I'm going to work on a beginner line. Next week, we will start on the expert stuff. Go ride them. Be advised, I've named the intermediate lines "Big Ring Magnet" and "Where's my rear derailleur".





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    Great work guys! I noticed the new work last week and the signs were a nice addition as well (a nice reminder).. Since getting back into the sport after a 10 year absence I have been riding 50+ miles a week at MR WC and have been meaning to join th DTS... Finally got around to it last week... I am planning on attending the meeting tomorrow (provided it isn't subject to the holiday forward one week rule) and am looking forward to contributing as much as I can considering my schedule..

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    That's great! We are glad to have you. I won't be at the meeting but you'll meet plenty of great people. You'll see me on the trails working on more features if it ever stops raining. Also, be sure to join us for the Jamboree!

    I can use help with maintenance, building, etc, outside of scheduled events sometimes. PM me if interested.
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    Haven't ridden middle run all summer, where abouts are these new features?

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    Quote Originally Posted by leoferus View Post
    That's great! We are glad to have you. I won't be at the meeting but you'll meet plenty of great people. You'll see me on the trails working on more features if it ever stops raining. Also, be sure to join us for the Jamboree!

    I can use help with maintenance, building, etc, outside of scheduled events sometimes. PM me if interested.
    Nice.. I am looking forward to it... I think I saw you working on the trails right off of Upper Pike Creek Rd a few months ago... That is pretty much my back yard... I enter on Upper Pike Creek road and I ride up through to connect through the Judge Morris Lot and over through to Middle Run.. I am planning on attending the Jamboree and Ya this rain is killing me right now too..

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    Quote Originally Posted by dd13 View Post
    Haven't ridden middle run all summer, where abouts are these new features?
    From the pike creek church school, come down the hill, across the log, over the bridge, and turn right. Then take the first right.

    I cleared 2 of the 3. I couldn't get up onto the "park benches ", so I threw my bike up there and started. It seems doable from one direction. The other direction is beyond my skill level.

    Thanks for the work Rico. Are they finished, or are there plans to add a little starter ramp?

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    The bottom bracket grabber is finished. With enough practice we can clear them. I or whomever gets to it first are going to build a beginner feature... In the future, there mus be an expert section somewhere. But, for now, there is enough to entertain us. Thanks for trying the features.

    Did you have to track stand on the derailleur breaker?
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    No but I can see why you call it that. As wide as the planks are, you can only use a small piece or you will come off of it in the turns.

    That is a great name for the expert feature. I did get my fron wheel on it,but my bike stopped when it hit my ring. Are you jumping onto it?

    Great job on it.

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    The feature "Bottom Bracket Monster" is the one you have to pull up onto. I didn't design that feature. I helped finish it. I believe that what the guys were going for on that one was to get people comfortable with obstacles that require balance and the ability to lift the front tire with confidence. We measured all the pullups and drops and we determined that bottom brackets would be spared if the rider puts the front wheel up and then pulls the rear up as well. Easier when clipped in. You can very slowly roll up and then jump up and pull up with your legs. On platforms, one would have to do it like trials and kinda jump up. I'm still trying to clean this feature all in one shot. And to answer the question about ramps up to this feature, no. There will be no ramps. The price of admission is high so that those that lack the confidence and ability will not attempt this one. Although we want people to ride the features this one has the potential to be a bit much for beginners. We didn't want someone to ride up to it on a ramp and then realize that they are in too deep.

    The "Derailleur Breaker" i designed with slow speed balance in mind. Because the planks are so wide, I wanted to force the rider to ride to the edge of the planks. Some riders like me, that have xl bikes, might even have to hop the rear wheel over in some areas in order to clean this feature. The elevation change seems abrupt but it isn't much. It's below 3 feet. I am not a very skilled rider but I can clear this one. Unfortunately, I can never do it when the camera is on. BOOOO!

    Thanks for riding them and thanks for the feedback.

    P.S. You're hitting your big ring on the first pull up? Is it a double or triple? We tested for bottom bracket height and this features is about 14" high. That means that there is just enough space for you to get your front wheel up and them hop your rear tire forward and over the entry without touching your ring. <= that's the theory.
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    Quote Originally Posted by blue42blue42 View Post
    From the pike creek church school, come down the hill, across the log, over the bridge, and turn right. Then take the first right.
    I'm usually coming the other way. Are you saying its on that un-named "bypass" off lenape right after you cross fox den rd ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by 92gli View Post
    I'm usually coming the other way. Are you saying its on that un-named "bypass" off lenape right after you cross fox den rd ?
    Correct.. If your coming off Fox Den its down to the Left....

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    Quote Originally Posted by leoferus View Post
    The feature "Bottom Bracket Monster" is the one you have to pull up onto. I didn't design that feature. I helped finish it. I believe that what the guys were going for on that one was to get people comfortable with obstacles that require balance and the ability to lift the front tire with confidence. We measured all the pullups and drops and we determined that bottom brackets would be spared if the rider puts the front wheel up and then pulls the rear up as well. Easier when clipped in. You can very slowly roll up and then jump up and pull up with your legs. On platforms, one would have to do it like trials and kinda jump up. I'm still trying to clean this feature all in one shot. And to answer the question about ramps up to this feature, no. There will be no ramps. The price of admission is high so that those that lack the confidence and ability will not attempt this one. Although we want people to ride the features this one has the potential to be a bit much for beginners. We didn't want someone to ride up to it on a ramp and then realize that they are in too deep.

    The "Derailleur Breaker" i designed with slow speed balance in mind. Because the planks are so wide, I wanted to force the rider to ride to the edge of the planks. Some riders like me, that have xl bikes, might even have to hop the rear wheel over in some areas in order to clean this feature. The elevation change seems abrupt but it isn't much. It's below 3 feet. I am not a very skilled rider but I can clear this one. Unfortunately, I can never do it when the camera is on. BOOOO!

    Thanks for riding them and thanks for the feedback.

    P.S. You're hitting your big ring on the first pull up? Is it a double or triple? We tested for bottom bracket height and this features is about 14" high. That means that there is just enough space for you to get your front wheel up and them hop your rear tire forward and over the entry without touching your ring. <= that's the theory.
    I ride a 1x10. Never measured it, but I know I hit it when I rolled up on it.

    BTW, Henrys Bikes is happy that you put the new features in. He said the RD business is up!!

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    Cool. Tell Matt I'll be in for my cut.
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    Came across 2 horned riders on the trail today. Looked like the female horned rider was about to drop the hammer and pass the male horned rider.
    Nice to meet you today.

    Btw the bottom bracket buster..it knocked my bash guard to pieces today. I'll have to remember to lock out the rear shock next time. Cya out there!

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    It was a pleasure meeting you as well. The horned riders you speak of are a dumb married couple that think they are cute with their stupid horns. They should take mountain biking more seriously.



    Thanks for riding the features. Sorry about the bash guard. Consider it a free weight reduction service. We will be out doing some more building tomorrow. If all goes well, we should have the beginner feature done this weekend.
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