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    Yeah, I like to park at Papermill park and hit that connector. It's not advertised very well, a lot more people would get in the park if they knew about it.

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    alright - I've been riding Bryan Field loop for over a year now, and have never seen the "PumpTrack" listed on Ken Cox's map. Can anyone tell me where it is? Is it still there? I've ridden over the log ride, and looked for an access trail on the left, but have never spotted it.

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    There is a series of pumps on the trail itself that I hit the other day, is that it? After the log? No dedicated turnoff if that's it.

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    I didn't think the pumps on the trail were what was illustrated. His map (which is fan-dam-tastic), shows a little "access trail" leading to a pump track in front of one of the buildings. Unless I'm reading the map incorrectly (always a possibility - I never rule out user error!)

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    Quote Originally Posted by mjdwyer23
    There is a series of pumps on the trail itself that I hit the other day, is that it? After the log? No dedicated turnoff if that's it.
    I'm pretty sure we are talking about the same connector...going towards papermill park it was slightly uphill but coming back it was pretty fun with all those pumps/whoops as long as you maintain some speed

    A couple of those real nice long bridges must have cost a fortune !!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Delawhere
    alright - I've been riding Bryan Field loop for over a year now, and have never seen the "PumpTrack" listed on Ken Cox's map. Can anyone tell me where it is? Is it still there? I've ridden over the log ride, and looked for an access trail on the left, but have never spotted it.
    You're looking in the right spot. It's next to the 'training' area (features inside a stone wall). The pump track has been neglected, is overgrown and unrideable, not sure why. The little access trail is overgrown as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sinker
    You're looking in the right spot. It's next to the 'training' area (features inside a stone wall). The pump track has been neglected, is overgrown and unrideable, not sure why. The little access trail is overgrown as well.
    Ok (and thanx) - sounds like I have to look pretty hard (e.g. - slow down a bit and maybe walk around a little.) How tall is the stone wall?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Delawhere
    Ok (and thanx) - sounds like I have to look pretty hard (e.g. - slow down a bit and maybe walk around a little.) How tall is the stone wall?
    I've ridden by it a bunch of times, but not sure...may 5' or so? You can see the wall and the pump track on google maps (satellite view). Look for the intersection of Smith Mill Rd and Paper Mill Rd as a landmark.

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    Sinker,

    Have you been on that connector I was talking about ??

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    Quote Originally Posted by vyper005
    Sinker,

    Have you been on that connector I was talking about ??

    Sure have...the Trailspinners built it last year, and fine-tuned it this spring. Not only is it a new access spot for all of White Clay and Middle Run, but it's also great for the community - kids and families can now ride (or walk) from their neighborhood over to Paper Mill Park without having to go out onto Paper Mill Rd.

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    I like the connector a lot. Unfortunately, hundreds of people walk by it every weekend, they don't know it's there!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sinker
    Sure have...the Trailspinners built it last year, and fine-tuned it this spring. Not only is it a new access spot for all of White Clay and Middle Run, but it's also great for the community - kids and families can now ride (or walk) from their neighborhood over to Paper Mill Park without having to go out onto Paper Mill Rd.
    Whats the name of the road where it starts ?? I think its a dead end...leading to a farm house...right ??

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    Quote Originally Posted by vyper005
    Whats the name of the road where it starts ?? I think its a dead end...leading to a farm house...right ??

    Right...that's Smith Mill Rd.

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    The pump track and the new (unnamed connector - at least that's what's it is called on the new official State map) are two diffrerent things:

    The pump track is (was) behind the trails maintenance building, just off Bryan's Field trail and directly across from that short log stunt. It no longer exists, B TW.

    The new State trail map is excellent, up-to-date, and free (I think) from the Park Office. I believe Ken no longer updates his map (could be wrong on that, I cannot check his link right now).

    The connector trail runs from Papermill Park to the Fox Den loop and connects Middle Run Crossing Subdivision and the Park with the main White Clay Creek.

    The bridges are not too expensive. That connector trail was built with a grant, obtained by leveraging the $$ value of volunteer hours against the materials cost (volunteer hours amount to way more than the materials). It did require having the equivalent amount of $$ in the Trailspinners Bridge fund to make it work though. Grant givers will let you count the $$ from volunteer hours, but only if you have the equal $$ actually in an account in case you "default" on the labor. Once the work is complete, you can then use the actual $$ in the account to leverage another grant in the future.

    In essence, your Trailspinners membership, contribution, or Poker Run/Race fee $$ at work, over and over again.

    Same procedure was used to obtain a grant for the new trails going in at Redd Park. Those trails wil connect Chapel Hill, Nonantum Woods, Chapel Woods, the Reservoir, and a few other subs into the main White Clay system.

    See www.trailspinners.org or the Trailspinners Yahoo group for details on the Earth Day trail building at Redd Park coming up soon.

    The Trailspinners thank y'all for your continued monetary support, kind words, and efforts to be responsible trail users.

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    Anyone planning on riding this weekend? I was hoping to get out for 2 hrs or so saturday.

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    Video

    A group of us from York drove over to White Clay a few weeks ago. I put together a short video and have already posted it over in the video section but thought that I would share it here as well.

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    Nice vid! Did you film the whole skills trail, or just the one skinny?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Delawhere
    Nice vid! Did you film the whole skills trail, or just the one skinny?
    Thanks. I have to go back and look at the full clips, but I'm pretty sure I only filmed thru the teeters. Stopped there b/c of waiting for others in the group to ride that section a few times, and forgot to start the camera back up. If I have the whole thing I'll post it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by diggingtrail
    A group of us from York drove over to White Clay a few weeks ago. I put together a short video and have already posted it over in the video section but thought that I would share it here as well.
    Hey Kevin...It would be sweet if you could make 3 or 4 little vids but actually show the entire trail you rode....like the Skills...Bryans Field etc...Just a thought...

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    Quote Originally Posted by vyper005
    Hey Kevin...It would be sweet if you could make 3 or 4 little vids but actually show the entire trail you rode....like the Skills...Bryans Field etc...Just a thought...
    I can do that. I'll post them in this thread, as I get them ready. I know I have all of Snow Goose, Bryans Field, Corkscrew, and David English. Should have most if not all of Double Horseshoe, and Possum Hollow. Lenape will be in bits, but may be able to get it into a pretty much coherent "run".

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    I'd really like to see how others get through the tree at the beginning section of trail. I have a lot of trouble with it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Delawhere
    I'd really like to see how others get through the tree at the beginning section of trail. I have a lot of trouble with it.
    It used to be fairly easy before the tree in front of it fell...that hole...if it's still there.... needs to be filled in...

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    Hole is still there - although looks like a few rocks were moved so you can "go around" the tree instead of through it, but that's not the object of the obstacle.

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    I get through it then pick the thorns out of my gear.

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    I ran 10 miles after work today, the trails are in awesome shape. It's supposed to rain later, I'm going to head over there at 8am and see how the conditions are. I saw a bunch of riders out today, a few with helmet cams. Any of you guys?

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    Not me - heading out Sunday if the trails are dry enough by then - raining pretty good right now.

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    Yeah **** got real tonight! Pouring rain at my house (2mi from JM) for about 2 hours. Looks like I'll be on my road bike tomorrow . I a considering going sunday afternoon though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mjdwyer23
    Pouring rain at my house (2mi from JM). I a considering going sunday afternoon though.
    I might go Sunday as well...if its dry enough.....

    Speaking of JM...a friend of mine just dislocated his shoulder there last week...we rode it counter clockwise and towards the end its a pretty fast slight downhill....I was about 75ft behind him when his back tire hit a small stump in the weeds...it bucked him over the handlebars and down the slope on the left...head first right into a tree....OUCH !!

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    Went out today from the papermill park connector for about 2 hours. Great riding, conditions were perfect. I did see a bunch of other riders, and a group of about 15 in TrailSpinners jerseys about to shove off from the Bryan's Field trailhead. I did the double horseshoe, lenape, bryan's field, whiteley farms, and david english trails and only bit it once. Good day for me!

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    Three trails

    Here's three of the trails at White Clay. The vids are mostly complete runs, didn't record much climbing, and open field though. There may be some more to follow.

    Bryan's Field
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    Snow Goose
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    Whitley Field
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    Quote Originally Posted by diggingtrail
    Here's three of the trails at White Clay. The vids are mostly complete runs, didn't record much climbing, and open field though. There may be some more to follow.


    David English

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    I'm pretty sure this video is Whitly Farms Trail...

    Nice work though...I def like these vids alot better than the other one...
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    Quote Originally Posted by mjdwyer23
    Went out today from the papermill park connector for about 2 hours. Great riding, conditions were perfect. I did see a bunch of other riders, and a group of about 15 in TrailSpinners jerseys about to shove off from the Bryan's Field trailhead. I did the double horseshoe, lenape, bryan's field, whiteley farms, and david english trails and only bit it once. Good day for me!
    I may have passed you today...me & my friend did Whitly Farms counter clockwise than David English clockwise...we started around 915am...very good ride...BTW...I hate hills...

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    I did a figure 8 from the Bird sanctuary parking lot going counter-clockwise on lenape, through the chunnel, clock-wise onto bryans field, 2 loops around the skills trail, then up to the parking lot and down, back through the chunnel to finish the Lenape cut-off back to bird sanctuary.

    If a lone rider on a Sette Flite wished you a good morning around 12:30/1:00 today - it was me. I forget when "afternoon" starts....

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    Definitely nice vids!

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    Quote Originally Posted by vyper005
    David English clockwise
    Do people actually do David English CCW? Doesn't sound fun. But it is incredibly fun CW. I love that loop!

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    Quote Originally Posted by vyper005
    I'm pretty sure this video is Whitly Farms Trail...

    Nice work though...I def like these vids alot better than the other one...
    Doh! Thanks for catching that. Fixed the title.

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    Quote Originally Posted by picassomoon
    Do people actually do David English CCW? Doesn't sound fun.
    Out of all the time I've been to David English I've only ridden it CW 3x...and one of them was this past sunday !! If you do it CCW, the first hill is really nasty now that they added a bunch more of the whoops (for run-off I guess) after you get by that though it is smooth sailing pretty much...you def gotta try it

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    I actually have not done DE clockwise -- the steep uphill with the bumps on it really sucks, but other than that it's fun!

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    I rode parts of Middle Run & WCC yesterday...I'd say the trails were 95% good...real tacky which makes for awesome traction....There were a few mud spots (same places as always)
    I did notice that someone had added more gravel on some of the muddier parts of the trails leading away from the chunnel...Hmm...How did they get that stuff back there ?? 4 wheeler maybe (not much room for them) or a motorcross bike with a cart ?? by hand ??

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    Yeah, that first hill you would encounter running CCW with all the whoop-de-do stuff just seems almost tailor made for going down. Climbing is one thing but climbing up that just sounds frustrating. I can see the rest of it being reasonable in the other direction.

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    Quote Originally Posted by vyper005
    I did notice that someone had added more gravel on some of the muddier parts of the trails leading away from the chunnel...Hmm...How did they get that stuff back there ?? 4 wheeler maybe (not much room for them) or a motorcross bike with a cart ?? by hand ??
    I was out yesterday too, and noticed on the uphill section of Lenape, if you go right instead of going left to go through the Chunnel, it looks like they had a walk-behind skid-steerer back there doing trail maintance. Just noticed the tracks and the trail was a little "squishy" - like a dirt jump not packed down completely.

    Beautiful day to ride yesterday - I hope I can get back out this weekend!

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    Rode 5 miles this morning...First time on the "new & improved" Bryan's Field...wow....once all that dirt gets seriously packed down...it"ll be pretty damn awesome

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    I'll be going out Tuesday, hopefully tomorrow's sun will bake it off.

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    Did a 5 mile loop yesterday (5/26) around 3pm...It was pretty damn hot...I think I lost about 4pounds

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    Anybody go out today (5/30) ?? Me & a friend did an 8 mile loop...super nice outside....I ended up getting a flat at the very end of my ride

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    I went out today -- had a flat out of the garage but pumped it up and it held for the ride. I parked at Hopkins Bridge on my way home from work and did the big loop to the chunnel, got lost a bit, and came back to complete the loop. Trails are in AWESOME condition. Definitely hot out!

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    Rode today as well - Fantastic conditions. Parked @ the bird sanctuary, went left down to the chunnel, up through Bryans Field to hit the skills trail, then planned on riding the Whitley Farm loop, but my buddy lost a lung on the way to the parking area, so we just took the Tri-Valley connector to the top of Bryan's Field and blasted back down to the chunnel and climbed back up to the cars...still a great ride after being stuck inside @ work.

    Just out of curiosity, are there ever any races/events held @ Whiteclay?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Delawhere
    Just out of curiosity, are there ever any races/events held @ Whiteclay?
    Ive never seen any mountain bike races there but did see two runner events last yr....

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    I had a nice ride yesterday (http://connect.garmin.com/activity/35668870). Started off at Papermill park and rode the connector in. I'm getting to know the middle run trails a bit better (ie not taking 4 laps to find my way out) and everything was in awesome shape. It was HOT but I finished right before the t-storms rolled in.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mjdwyer23
    I had a nice ride yesterday (http://connect.garmin.com/activity/35668870). Started off at Papermill park and rode the connector in. I'm getting to know the middle run trails a bit better (ie not taking 4 laps to find my way out) and everything was in awesome shape. It was HOT but I finished right before the t-storms rolled in.
    Damn...14.68 miles...pretty sweet !! A max spd of 33.6...Is that correct ??

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    I miss Snow Goose so much. That is where I got into mountain biking, so smooth and fast. I want to get back there for a day.

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    Quote Originally Posted by vyper005
    Damn...14.68 miles...pretty sweet !! A max spd of 33.6...Is that correct ??
    I'll venture a guess and say my 405 was guessing between two points when it lost signal down by the creek! Max I saw was 22 or so. The 405 does a great job normally, that was the first time that I had a dropped signal.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mjdwyer23
    I'll venture a guess and say my 405 was guessing between two points when it lost signal down by the creek! Max I saw was 22 or so. The 405 does a great job normally, that was the first time that I had a dropped signal.
    And here I thought you were some sort of pro downhill racer

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    We did 20+ on Sunday... from Judge Morris to Cart Path then back. Fast pace too, ultra flows. Couple of bird watchers, but all in all mtb bliss for a humid yet windy morning.

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    Quote Originally Posted by work-ed
    We did 20+ on Sunday... from Judge Morris to Cart Path then back. Fast pace too
    Damn...too much for me....

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    Cart Path Directional?

    Speaking of the Cart Path, any chance we set that up directionally?

    We always climb the wide side (left side) and buzz down the single track (right side), it's a bummer when cats be climbing the single track side, especially when we want to really "open it up". What do you think?

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    Rode a short quick ride Thurs from the church parking lot through Double Horseshoe, and finally took off the skirt and cleaned that high log ride - last "intimidating stunt" in the park I had yet to clean...I'll get through that stupid tree @ the beginning of the skills trail yet...

    Anyway, GREAT day to ride.

    Now I get to look forward to Sunday, when I'm heading to Vertical Earth. Really excited about that. I haven't ridden a ski resort since the 90's when Blue Knob, PA first opened to mtb's - and that wasn't lift access! Just a guy in truck waiting at the bottom of the trails to drive you back up - if you missed him, you waited 20 min till he got back around to that stop...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Delawhere
    Rode a short quick ride Thurs from the church parking lot through Double Horseshoe, and finally took off the skirt and cleaned that high log ride - last "intimidating stunt" in the park I had yet to clean...I'll get through that stupid tree @ the beginning of the skills trail yet...
    Congrats !! I still havent done that high log...only tough thing left for me...it def takes some nuggets Ive lowered my seat & kinda scampered across it on the decline but its not the same...I know I can hold a straight line but its all mental...

    Did you ride it on the incline or decline ?? decline to me would seem alot easier...

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    I'll be there tuesday after work to do the usual 15ish. Hopefully it cools off and the trails are in good shape!

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    Quote Originally Posted by mjdwyer23
    I'll be there tuesday after work to do the usual 15ish. Hopefully it cools off and the trails are in good shape!
    Me & a couple of friends went to middle run this morning...did only 6 miles and thought I was gonna pass out

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    Quote Originally Posted by vyper005
    Did you ride it on the incline or decline ?? decline to me would seem alot easier...
    Thanks! I did it on the decline, although I think it might be easier on the incline because you could use the pedal motion to adjust your balance, where if you're sketchy going into it too fast on the decline, it may be a little harder to overcome. Just my thoughts, I have absolutely no experience to base it on.

    Now I have to try it on the incline....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Delawhere
    Thanks! I did it on the decline, although I think it might be easier on the incline because you could use the pedal motion to adjust your balance, where if you're sketchy going into it too fast on the decline, it may be a little harder to overcome. Just my thoughts, I have absolutely no experience to base it on.

    Now I have to try it on the incline....
    Maybe you could try this one....



    This trail/stunt is called The Rediculator located in Canada's North Shore. It earned its name from maintaining the height shown in the picture and going higher, up to a 20+ft freefall if you dismounted. The widest it got was 3 feet and went down to about 2-3 inches at parts. What the freeriders call a "skinny"

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    Probably have to use the pump on the trail to blow up the nuggets a bit to try that! 20' freefall is long drop...but I have to say it looks really fun!

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    I hit this one run of rollers on Snow Goose last week that had me laughing like a little girl. I think it was right after the logzilla area if you're going clockwise. Sick stuff. VERY fast run.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 92gli
    I hit this one run of rollers on Snow Goose last week that had me laughing like a little girl. I think it was right after the logzilla area if you're going clockwise. Sick stuff. VERY fast run.
    Logzilla has always been pretty damn fun...

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    I love riding Snowgoose clockwise - the decline is so fun to blast down (work those bells!)

    If you stay to the right skipping Logzilla, you'll hit a choice of two stunts - log ride & logzilla-esque rollover/jump - both very fun, and then straight into the corkscrew trail...

    Hoping to get out for a ride tomorrow or Sunday morning. Beautiful weekend coming up!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Delawhere
    Hoping to get out for a ride tomorrow or Sunday morning. Beautiful weekend coming up!
    Did you get to ride ??

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    Quote Originally Posted by vyper005
    Did you get to ride ??
    I rode Saturday afternoon - left from the bird sanctuary, going left down the new/refurbished jumphumps, through the chunnel to BF to the skills trail, to WF, back to BF, and back to the car...wanted to ride SG, but hadn't eaten, and the heat was killing me... Still a fun ride, though!

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    Did a quick loop at The Judge yesterday (6/22) in the heat...It was around 3pm (after work)...Suprisingly is wasnt that hot in the woods...I wasnt energized as usual...It really seemed like I was crawling along...I finished it in 28:36...

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    I'm hoping to get over there friday and do the normal combo, possibly with a few extra MR loops in there to get oriented.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mjdwyer23
    I'm hoping to get over there friday and do the normal combo, possibly with a few extra MR loops in there to get oriented.
    Nice...Im going out today around 3pm...Its gonna be nasty out there

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    Did 5.5 at middle run today at 9am...it was hot even at that time with no breeze

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    Yeah, the heat has been awful. How are the trail conditions after that storm last week? Fair Hill was pretty trashed on Friday.

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    Hi everyone, new to the forum; I live right off of Snow Goose and trying to get into it one weekend at a time.
    I was out Sunday morning too... the heat was terrible...
    What is the earliest / latest people usually go out for a loop on the trails?

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    Quote Originally Posted by de_biker
    What is the earliest / latest people usually go out for a loop on the trails?
    I ride after work at least once a week (work in Newark) - so the latest I usually ride is around 6:30/7-ish in the summer during the longer daylight hours...the earliest I've ridden is during the weekend around 9am, which isn't really early at all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by de_biker
    What is the earliest/latest people usually go out for a loop on the trails?
    Earliest Ive been out is 730am...latest I ride is around 3pm...right after work...

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    Rode after work today, and I have to say, it was Fan-Damn-Tastic.

    Parked @ the church, rode up SnowGoose, and stayed right skipping Logzilla, riding SG cutoff. Then, instead of going down the corkscrew trail, I made a hard left and road Mountain Goat back over to SG - down the whoops, and 'cross the bridge to Possum Hollow, to the PH Cutoff over to Lenape & back up to the church.

    Not the longest ride mileage-wise, but I got out of my car @ 7, and was back in my car @ 7:27 - not sure the distance, but I was surprised it only took 27 minutes! That includes the time it took to get the bike out of the car, put together, taken apart and put back in the trunk!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Delawhere
    Rode after work today, and I have to say, it was Fan-Damn-Tastic.

    Parked @ the church, rode up SnowGoose, and stayed right skipping Logzilla, riding SG cutoff. Then, instead of going down the corkscrew trail, I made a hard left and road Mountain Goat back over to SG - down the whoops, and 'cross the bridge to Possum Hollow, to the PH Cutoff over to Lenape & back up to the church.

    Not the longest ride mileage-wise, but I got out of my car @ 7, and was back in my car @ 7:27 - not sure the distance, but I was surprised it only took 27 minutes! That includes the time it took to get the bike out of the car, put together, taken apart and put back in the trunk!
    Awesome job...sounds like you had fun

    Did you see those directions I gave you in the Iron Hill thread ??

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    I did see them and plan on putting them to use very soon. Just have to decide what day next week I can get out. Thank you!

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    I rode middle run yesterday (about 96 degrees outside) got to the 4 mile mark when my buddies Gary Fisher frame broke right at the swingarm...this is the 2nd time in 2yrs that the frame had broke....lifetime replacement but who cares...it shouldnt happen.Anyway...we had to walk back to the cars which were about 1.5 miles away...I actually thought I was gonna pass out

    ***Note to self
    1)Stay out of the extreme heat
    2)Dont buy a Fisher

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    Quote Originally Posted by vyper005
    I rode middle run yesterday (about 96 degrees outside) got to the 4 mile mark when my buddies Gary Fisher frame broke right at the swingarm...this is the 2nd time in 2yrs that the frame had broke....lifetime replacement but who cares...it shouldnt happen.Anyway...we had to walk back to the cars which were about 1.5 miles away...I actually thought I was gonna pass out

    ***Note to self
    1)Stay out of the extreme heat
    2)Dont buy a Fisher
    Funny thing, last week, I rode the Wiss in the evening and met a fellow with a Fisher with a broken chainstay.

    Latter in the weak rode at fair hill and met a guy with a fisher with a broken chainstay.

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    I think I'm going to wait until Thursday to ride - supposed to cool down after today & tomorrow to more reasonable temps.

    That sux about your friends frame, but I have to agree, one broken frame = accident, two broken frames = bad quality...its not like whiteclay is "extreme" riding terrain.

    I broke a Giant Carbon Fiber frame back in the 90's, and you have to love the lifetime replacement. I still have the replacement frame in my garage...

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    Rode White Clay (Judge Morris and Middle Run) this weekend along with Lums pond. (14mile ride and 16mil ride)

    I may ride tonight in White Clay, Heat be damned!

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    Man, hot as hell today. I ran WCC Friday (beautiful day) and ran Fair Hill at lunch -- go early AM if you can! Trails are in great shape though. I haven't seen some of the sections at FH this dry ever!

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    I broke 3 chain stays on my hifi 29er over the past 2 years, and my girlfriend has broken one....you can't beat treks policy....while your waiting for a new one see if bikeline has a loaner they can give you while you wait.

    trust me I have heard horror stories about other vendors and their policies. even some of the larger ones can be a PITA to deal with on warranty issues.

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    Quote Originally Posted by breilly
    I broke 3 chain stays on my hifi 29er over the past 2 years, and my girlfriend has broken one....you can't beat treks policy....while your waiting for a new one see if bikeline has a loaner they can give you while you wait.

    trust me I have heard horror stories about other vendors and their policies. even some of the larger ones can be a PITA to deal with on warranty issues.
    My friend didnt have his bike for one month while it was getting repaired last year....Now that it is broken again he says that he will never buy a Fisher again...cant blame him...I wouldnt want one...
    His bike is a 2008 Hi Fi....whats funny is that they dont even make Hi Fi's in 26" anymore...Hmm...wonder why ?? I guess the Roscoe took its place....

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    I rode this past Sunday at middle run...only did about 5 miles with my friend who broke his frame on the Fisher...he used his downhill bike which is downright crazy....it has something like 8 or 10" of travel....I know one thing....It's not meant to pedal uphills

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    heading out (hopefully) Thursday...not sure where we'll ride yet. Potentially WF, BF, and skills trail...its always a game day decision for the afterwork rides.

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    White Clay too wet to ride today? (7/13/10) Thoughts?

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    ^^^
    Last edited by vyper005; 07-19-2010 at 11:35 AM.

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    Went out yesterday...First time I tried that conector trail from the ranger station to the top of the pond on David English....Its a pretty nasty uphill...Im def gonna try it the other way !!

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    Quote Originally Posted by vyper005
    Went out yesterday...First time I tried that conector trail from the ranger station to the top of the pond on David English....Its a pretty nasty uphill...Im def gonna try it the other way !!
    I did the exact same thing Friday evening, killer uphill!

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    Quote Originally Posted by XxRedbaronxX
    I did the exact same thing Friday evening, killer uphill!
    There was a tree down on the connector when we went...I told a ranger about it....It wouldnt be much fun bombing down that trail and all of a sudden run into that thing

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    ***Please be careful on the small teeter-totter on the skills trail at White Clay as both halves do not meet up even anymore...the moving half is about 6 inches lower than the stationary part....very dangerous !! I'm not sure if someone sabotaged it or the teeter actually sank lower into the ground due to the storms...I hope someone fixes this soon....

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    Just got back from riding White Clay for the first time, and it was AMAZING! Had the most fun I've had on a bike probably since I first got it. Rode Bryan's Field twice, and spent some time at the skills trail. Had a lot of fun, sad it took so long to finally get up there, really sucks that I won't be able to go once I go back to school

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    Quote Originally Posted by vyper005
    ***Please be careful on the small teeter-totter on the skills trail at White Clay as both halves do not meet up even anymore...the moving half is about 6 inches lower than the stationary part....very dangerous !! I'm not sure if someone sabotaged it or the teeter actually sank lower into the ground due to the storms...I hope someone fixes this soon....

    I will see about having this fixed. The state rangers and Delaware Trailspinners preform regular maintenance on the entire skills course. Odds are it needs some adjustment. Thanks for the heads up.

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    5Bridges in Fairhill is really fun going downhill... not so much fun going reverse (uphill)... I really need to work on my hill climbing...

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    Quote Originally Posted by FirstStateCamber
    I will see about having this fixed. The state rangers and Delaware Trailspinners preform regular maintenance on the entire skills course. Odds are it needs some adjustment. Thanks for the heads up.
    Thanks...

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    Wonder if anybody looked at the baby teeter yet ??

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    rode yesterday (Monday) and blazed right through the skills trail - if the teeter hasn't been worked on yet, it didn't affect my ride at all...but I can't say I necessarily wait for them to fully drop...

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