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    Quote Originally Posted by eastcoaststeve View Post
    Sexy.



    Fitfinder stem peeking out?




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    Quote Originally Posted by hollister View Post
    Just to give an idea for where I'm headed with this


    It looks awesome so far....looking forward to seeing progress and completion.




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    Wow! I never knew that there was a such a devoted following to the ol' steed that I've loved for 20 years. I built mine as a sort of graduation present to myself after high school. It was 1996 and a friend sold me his Med Phoenix as he made the move to the new Ibis Bow-Ti. I worked at REI at the time and tried to outfit the bike as well as I could for how little I had as an 18yo guy with a taste for the finer things. The bike is still built up almost exactly as I did it then, only having changed out the brakes and levers (I do miss the Kooka Racha levers, but the Avid Tri-Aligns not so much) and pedals as my OG Onzas finally gave up and I got some Times.

    The build centered around that beautiful frame and oversize Synchro seatpost. I used a Manitou EFC front fork that I converted to coil springs and a 1' threaded steerer. Headset was the same Shimano 600 road unit that the PO had run. Drivetrain is a mix of XTR shift pods, XTR front and XT rear deralliers, and XT BB. Wheels carried over from my previous Barracuda: handbuilt Pauls F-Hub w/ Bontrager BCX-1 front and a re-flanged 36 hole Bullseye freewheel hub with an 8spd FW and BCX-2, and Salsa QRs FnR. Bar was also a carryover, my first WTB part, their old Ti flat bar w/ the plastic "bulge" spacer in the middle, Precision Billet Pro-Shift levers and Bontrager bar ends. my 23 yo Flite saddle rounds it out. This pic is with an old set of Ritchey speedmaxes, but I have since gone back to a full MTB tire with some NOS WTB Velociraptors.

    Enjoy! I still do, but I really need to update the drivetrain.





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    Awesome! Thanks for sharing the bike and backstory.
    Looking for/WTB : Grove Innovations Assault Fork, Grove Innovation Hammerhead Stem or Hothead Bar Stem

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    What a beautiful bike.
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    The new stem for my Phoenix is ready for shipping.

    The WTB Phoenix Thread-2033902-pr8u3lgghb1x-13686508_10206485970328156_1065439562255707504_n-medium.jpg

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    Quote Originally Posted by mauricer View Post
    The new stem for my Phoenix is ready for shipping.

    Nice! Who did the work?
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    Eric Estlund at Winter Bicycles. Had another stem and a fork made too. He knows his fillets.

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    What a bike, but I've sold it
    The WTB Phoenix Thread-1675311-a08ecj3nfmjk-img_0876-large-2.jpg

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    Always a good thread to revive.
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    Quote Originally Posted by hollister View Post
    Getting there

    Hey Hollister, I didn't see this one at the VRC ride a couple weeks ago, is this one all ready to fly out of the gate? Where's this one headed, already spoken for? Not that I could afford it....booo-hooo.

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    I know Ibis would bend the brake levers to match the angle of hbars.. Is it doable?
    WTB: Bomber Z2 1 1/8 steerer, in good to excellent shape OR bomber rebuild kit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. Claus View Post
    Hey Hollister, I didn't see this one at the VRC ride a couple weeks ago, is this one all ready to fly out of the gate? Where's this one headed, already spoken for? Not that I could afford it....booo-hooo.
    Took H long enough to land one, I doubt it's going anywhere ever except the trailhead.
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    That makes sense, seems like it's got all the WTB bells and whistles, Hollister I'm sure I'm not alone here, but a few pics of the finished product would be nice and envy inducing...

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    Not finished yet. A few of the placeholders since this pic have been fixed, a few more to go


    Please forgive the phoeni pics..
    looking for 20-21" P team

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    Is the stem coming from Potts?
    Quote Originally Posted by hollister View Post
    Not finished yet. A few of the placeholders since this pic have been fixed, a few more to go


    Please forgive the phoeni pics..
    Zip ties? Not on my bike!

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    Quote Originally Posted by jeff View Post
    Is the stem coming from Potts?
    No one has been able to convince him to start makin' those again.
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    Reviving this most important thread with a project in progress

    The WTB Phoenix Thread-2201441-q1k48orchig5-0ed437de781520b5088b8f572e16dca1-large.jpg

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    My favorite color!
    Looking forward to seeing progress at more than a glacier's pace ...
    Wanted: more of the same ... but different

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    Quote Originally Posted by CCMDoc View Post
    Looking forward to seeing progress at more than a glacier's pace ...
    looking for 20-21" P team

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    Quote Originally Posted by hollister View Post
    soooooo....how is the gossamer Klein coming along?

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    Lolz!
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    Headed to a new home shortly
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    Pretty sure this bike has it's own thread, but here it is in the Phoenix thread.

    My 1993 Wilderness Trail Bikes Phoenix SE, non-suspension corrected, full WTB catalog spec. Even the non-WTB parts are WTB collaboration items.

    Before:
    The WTB Phoenix Thread-phoenixbefore.jpg

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    JNT in Los Gatos
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    Gap in Saratoga
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    Wilder in Santa Cruz
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    Rumpfy,
    THAT is a truly AWESOME Phoenix.
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    So I finally have one to call my own. A super gracious local who wasn't using his sold it to me and I am now in the process of redoing it. I grabbed a 31.6 Thomson Layback post since it will be a bazillion years till I find a proper Suntour/WTB one. It is a 95 so I will be swapping everything out on it to XTR with the exception of the brakes and rear hub (front hub might also get a WTB.... have a couple things sitting in the hopper that will get tried out on it).

    With that said..... to match the lovely rear brake in the pic above. What front brakes would you run on it and what levers would you run?

    I have a lot of options at my disposal that I could use but I also am not going to skimp on this so even if I don't have something I will buy whatever is needed to best compliment that awesome rear.

    What say you all? As always love to hear your input. Thanks!!

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    My project is starting to pick up steam after sitting around for a year, so I'll throw it in along with the cool green one to get this thread going one.

    Some of you may remember this bike from its time at Mombat.

    The WTB Phoenix Thread-473db365-e22a-4bab-99de-9ee612a9cee0.jpg

    The bike is a 1994, a 1" suspension corrected frame. My Ti Phoenix is already running a Judy so I thought I'd convert this one to a rigid configuration. Steve Potts provided a corrected Type 2 fork last year and I was just noodling along trying to figure out a stem solution to run dirt drops. Steve ended up making a series of stems a couple weeks ago and I managed to get one that matches my rise/reach requirements.

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    So I stripped the frame down to send to Rick at D&D to paint the stem and fork to match. He's going to check it over while there and see if he thinks the rust issue is bad enough to address (significant rust spidering across the entire frame). Chuck at PCC rebuilt the wheels with brand new Powerbeam rims so that's good to go, rear is a gunmetal NP and front is a sort of white/pearl white NP. I'm trying to decide whether I'll run the saber cam up front now that the Judy is gone. That brake, despite some of the not so good things I've heard about it was one of the draws for the bike, along with all the amazing things I've heard about the frame itself ofcourse. So, I'm inclined to make it work, but we'll see. I'd like to have a complete gunmetal group on the bike, but that may need to wait.

    The WTB Phoenix Thread-853fa05c-9202-4760-a338-07b5a766e63b.jpg

    Other than that I'm going to get dual cockpits setup, one RM-2 with WTB shiftermounts and DA levers and the other using a Powerband quill stem with a WTB Ti bar and M737. The bike came equipped with a press in BB setup for compact drive and with Shimano M737 more or less. So, I may keep that setup or go with an XC-PRO MD or XC-PRO/XT hybrid. Not exactly sure yet.

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    So I finally have one to call my own. A super gracious local who wasn't using his sold it to me and I am now in the process of redoing it.
    It is a 95 so I will be swapping everything out on it to XTR

    With that said..... to match the lovely rear brake in the pic above. What front brakes would you run on it and what levers would you run?

    What say you all? As always love to hear your input. Thanks!!
    Fantastic pickup. Congratulations.

    Brake levers - Paul would be my first choice, followed by Avid Speed Dial. There are a few others of similar design from that era that would look good and work well.

    Front brake - I assume itís a suspension fork and would run a V-brake while you wait to find something better. Itíll give you similar feel and grab as the rear you have.

    Brake levers means youíre going with shifters other than the XTR Brake/Shifter combo so if youíre doing that, youíll also need to think about which shifters will you be using.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SMRTIN View Post
    My project is starting to pick up steam after sitting around for a year, so I'll throw it in along with the cool green one to get this thread going one.

    The bike is a 1994, a 1" suspension corrected frame. My Ti Phoenix is already running a Judy so I thought I'd convert this one to a rigid configuration. Steve Potts provided a corrected Type 2 fork last year and I was just noodling along trying to figure out a stem solution to run dirt drops. Steve ended up making a series of stems a couple weeks ago and I managed to get one that matches my rise/reach requirements.

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    So I stripped the frame down to send to Rick at D&D to paint the stem and fork to match. He's going to check it over while there and see if he thinks the rust issue is bad enough to address (significant rust spidering across the entire frame). Chuck at PCC rebuilt the wheels with brand new Powerbeam rims so that's good to go, rear is a gunmetal NP and front is a sort of white/pearl white NP. I'm trying to decide whether I'll run the saber cam up front now that the Judy is gone. That brake, despite some of the not so good things I've heard about it was one of the draws for the bike, along with all the amazing things I've heard about the frame itself ofcourse. So, I'm inclined to make it work, but we'll see. I'd like to have a complete gunmetal group on the bike, but that may need to wait.

    Other than that I'm going to get dual cockpits setup, one RM-2 with WTB shiftermounts and DA levers and the other using a Powerband quill stem with a WTB Ti bar and M737. The bike came equipped with a press in BB setup for compact drive and with Shimano M737 more or less. So, I may keep that setup or go with an XC-PRO MD or XC-PRO/XT hybrid. Not exactly sure yet.
    Niiiiice!

    That dual bar setup is exactly the same as I had planned for my recently built Potts Ti Phoenix but in the end I chickened out and stuck with the flat bar setup.

    You probably donít need that silver bike anymore.
    Iíll drive down and take it off your hands. Youíll have more room to work and less clutter.

    Hope to see it complete and in person some time this summer.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CCMDoc View Post
    Fantastic pickup. Congratulations.

    Brake levers - Paul would be my first choice, followed by Avid Speed Dial. There are a few others of similar design from that era that would look good and work well.

    Front brake - I assume itís a suspension fork and would run a V-brake while you wait to find something better. Itíll give you similar feel and grab as the rear you have.

    Brake levers means youíre going with shifters other than the XTR Brake/Shifter combo so if youíre doing that, youíll also need to think about which shifters will you be using.
    Thanks!! Funny that I hadn't seen the reply and actually took your advice without knowing it. Used a set of speed dial levers so I could run the same levers for the rear and the vbrake front. I left the White Brothers fork on it for now but will be trying out some other forks over time. I am tossing around the idea of machining a new fork brace for a couple forks so that I can run a set of roller cams up front too.

    For shifters I went with my standard, m732 thumbies. Perfect for the mud of Washington.....

    Took it for a spin with the puppy last night for it's first ride. It has some kinks to still be sorted but was an absolute pleasure to ride. Definitely disappears under you.....

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    hollister, that bike is just perfect!

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    I am loving my 1996 Phoenix, a great rider! Being my own worst enemy, I can't help but want to set this up a little more retro some day, even though it runs perfectly as is. Maybe once I find/order the proper fork...

    20180317_115615 by shamalama88, on Flickr

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