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    Too good not to share. The Art Of The Mountain Bike: Otis Guy

    I'm an Otis Guy fan. Love his work and the way my 85 OG rides and I'm always on the look out for another one. Needless to say, this new addition is more than a little exciting for me. I'm eternally grateful and in SW's debt for making it happen and allowing me the opportunity to bring this gem back to light.
    I'm pretty much starting from scratch collecting parts (which shouldn't be too difficult), but it will truly be an enjoyable journey getting it back to 'show spec'.







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    I wouldn't leave that in the middle of the road.

    Beautiful frame!

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    Someone ran over it shortly after the pictures were taken.
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    what a find! the neon rasta candy-cane paint is awesome. and the stem is really really cool too.

    I look forward to seeing this one completed!
    Somec is like the digital Zunow
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    plastic BMX saddle--what is that?
    Somec is like the digital Zunow
    And this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JD5h3y0a9AU

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    No Way.... Too big .... When you finish putting it together and realize it's too big for ya, maybe we can work out a deal.

    Ever since I saw your red Dirt drop OG on VRC I knew 2 things. 1 I will find an OG to ride someday, and 2 I will build a dirt drop Mtb. Half way there.

    Not sure why but your red OG has always been on my short list of top 3 favorite bikes here on VRC.

    Now you got the OG from The Art Of......

    Sweet!.... Don't stop, lets see it together. ....

    Refresh my memory, what year was the Art of MTB display put together?

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    wow that is fantastic!!

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    Sweet bike Eric- really unique. What are your plans for the spec? Are you sticking with what's in the catalog, which looks like Suntour with Scott/Pedersen brakes? Or period correct Shimano?

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    Quote Originally Posted by djmuff
    Sweet bike Eric- really unique. What are your plans for the spec? Are you sticking with what's in the catalog, which looks like Suntour with Scott/Pedersen brakes? Or period correct Shimano?
    I would guess he doesn't have a choice except to put it together the same way it was originally displayed. Too much provenance.

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    1989-1990. Braunstein Quay.

    CK has the info here:

    http://sonic.net/~ckelly/Seekay/artofmountainbike.htm

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    Really nice find, Eric. Congratulations!

    It's funny to see the hite rite on backwards compared to how we normally see it on the Breezer.

    That Craig Mitchell bike is interesting. Whatever happened to it? What about the Paul Brown? Some very interesting bikes in that exhibit.

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    Freakin sweet

    One of your best bikes, not only for what it is- but the journey of acquiring it and now bringing it back

    The illuminati are proud of you!

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    Major score. That thing neeeds a full stx-rc kit.
    Need: McMahon brake for roller cam mounts, Mountain Goat fork.

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    sell it to stan
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    That is one big f'n dude!
    Yes I am!

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    Speaking of 'the art of' where the hell are the other pics of that carbon Ibis? That guy posted some dirty dirty teasers in the 'all things Ibis' thread and I don't recall seeing anymore of it....

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    Very cool. Can't wait to see it next to your others.
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    Nice looking OG frameset and stem! Looking forward to seeing it when the rebuild is finished. You certainly have the right connections and focus for bringing in some of the coolest bikes!!

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    Is that TT actually 25 1/2"? It looks long but..........
    Zip ties? Not on my bike!

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    Wow!! Very nice indeed.
    Each bicycle owned exponentially increases the probability that none is working correctly.

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    Can't believe you own one of 'those' bikes. Fantastic!
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    i am babbling.. speechless...
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    Quote Originally Posted by muddybuddy
    Major score. That thing neeeds a full stx-rc kit.
    It says Suntour...I was thinking maybe XCM Nice pick-up Eric
    Needed: 26.8mm XTR seatpost, blue GT/Grundig Jersey.

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    Compared to some of the other players in the show, pretty agressive geometry. 73/73 head/seat, 16 3/8 chainstay, 25 1/2 top tube....
    I like it......
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    Quote Originally Posted by muddybuddy
    That thing neeeds a full stx-rc kit.
    ha ha! Bike of the Month!


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    Cool frame! Now you need a neon candy cane striped lycra skin suit to match

    I thought you lived in CA,that looks like Spring in the Northeast, grey, overcast, foggy. You mean the sun doesn't always shine out there????
    This is a Pugs not some carbon wannabee pretzel wagon!!

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    Originally Posted by muddybuddy
    That thing neeeds a full stx-rc kit.

    Quote Originally Posted by ameybrook
    ha ha! Bike of the Month!


    I got a NOS RC rear derailleur that would look real sharp on there.

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    Really like the interesting tri-color paint scheme.

    Do you know why he made the frame with such a steep head angle (aside from the obvious "built for use anywhere" statement)? A very east coast head angle!

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    There is an article about Otis in today's Independent Journal, in which they spell my name wrong.

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    Wrong spelling

    Man, that's just wrong! C'mon Bob!

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    Someone needs to write him a colorful letter... or tether him to your seat post and drag him down Mount Tamalpais.

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    Quote Originally Posted by misterdangerpants
    Really like the interesting tri-color paint scheme.

    Do you know why he made the frame with such a steep head angle (aside from the obvious "built for use anywhere" statement)? A very east coast head angle!

    are there some east coast mountain bikes that use a 73 head angle?

    as I've already told you, Rumpfy, great work bringing that thing home. Can't wait to see it built up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Repack Rider
    There is an article about Otis in today's Independent Journal, in which they spell my name wrong.

    Not always about you.
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    Thanks for all the kind words everyone!

    I'm pretty excited about the project. I'll be trying to get it to as close to the show spec as possible. I think it'd be sac-relig otherwise.
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    Og!

    Gonna bring that thing to Keyesville?!

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    That's a true beauty E, and you're just the guy to put it back to spec and make us all wag our tails...looking forward to seeing it progress.

    I'd really love to hear the back story if you care to enlighten.




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    Quote Originally Posted by eastcoaststeve
    I'd really love to hear the back story if you care to enlighten.
    Yeah, no doubt. That thing looks nearly new. Even the dayglo colors still look really bright. It's amazing what some of you all are able to drum up.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Retrocowboy
    Gonna bring that thing to Keyesville?!

    Once it's built, sure! It might take a year or two unless i want to over pay for parts...and where's the fun in that?
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    Not too much of a back story to tell. I talked to Otis a bit about the bike.

    He said it was built with steeper ht angle and shorter rake fork and was ultimately sold through (he thinks) Palo Alto bikes 'as new'.
    I'm assuming the person that bought the bike was responsible for the trail ware.
    It may have been sold a second time since the owner I got it from (again, thanks entirely to another regular VRC'er here for 'brokering' the deal) had it sitting in the state you see it above for....15+ years I suppose. Tucked away in a box, languishing in obscurity.

    The build goal looks like a first year XC Pro spec (new for 1990)

    Serial number on the bike is (I think...the paint is pretty thick):
    107
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    Good job E.
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    so excited for you! hurry up and gather some parts!

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    Very Nice!

    I remember reading about that show in the mags! Created a bad case of Left Coast envy!

    Chain stays look pretty beefy...almost like fork legs.

    Can't wait to see a picture of you crashing it at Kesyville!

    Side note related to that Klein thread: This is the bike that you simply DON"T REPAINT!

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    Man, that's just wrong! C'mon Bob!

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    Someone needs to write him a colorful letter... or tether him to your seat post and drag him down Mount Tamalpais.
    Really? Seriously? C'mon...if a spelling mistake was made, it was not intentional. And if you want to contact me, my email address is posted at the end of the column.

    Please don't make anonymous threats...no one deserves that.

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    Hey Bob

    I may be wrong......but im pretty sure that was sarcasm. I really doubt anyone was making a real threat.

    anyway welcome to the vrc forum.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bobcullinan
    Really? Seriously? C'mon...if a spelling mistake was made, it was not intentional. And if you want to contact me, my email address is posted at the end of the column.

    Please don't make anonymous threats...no one deserves that.
    It'd be nice if we could keep just one thread about the intention of the OP. Nice frame. Great find.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KDXdog
    Very Nice!

    I remember reading about that show in the mags! Created a bad case of Left Coast envy!

    Chain stays look pretty beefy...almost like fork legs.

    Can't wait to see a picture of you crashing it at Kesyville!

    Side note related to that Klein thread: This is the bike that you simply DON"T REPAINT!

    Ya, the seat stays look a lot like the fork.

    Might not be done till K'Ville 2013.

    Most definitely won't be repainted!
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    Quote Originally Posted by bobcullinan
    Really? Seriously? C'mon...if a spelling mistake was made, it was not intentional. And if you want to contact me, my email address is posted at the end of the column.

    Please don't make anonymous threats...no one deserves that.
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    Bob,

    The comment I made was in pure jest, I certainly meant no harm by my posting. No one will be draggin' ya down a hill. My comment was more to do with where were your editors? You simply don't get to "misspell" Charlie Kelly... intentional or not, not someone of that importance. Gotta keep the bar high!

    Peace,

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    p.s I've enjoyed what you've had to say about Bobke, thanks!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Malibu412
    It'd be nice if we could keep just one thread about the intention of the OP. Nice frame. Great find.
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    C'mon Malibu,

    We're talking about Rumpfy... if he took offense to me highjacking his thread, I'm sure he'd let me know. Besides, I was just having fun with Bob about his spelling. Rumpfy doesn't need any assistance when it comes to flamin' someone, but thanks for trying to corral my silliness!

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    Quote Originally Posted by neo_pop_71
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    Bob,

    The comment I made was in pure jest, I certainly meant no harm by my posting. No one will be draggin' ya down a hill. My comment was more to do with where were your editors? You simply don't get to "misspell" Charlie Kelly... intentional or not, not someone of that importance. Gotta keep the bar high!

    Peace,

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    p.s I've enjoyed what you've had to say about Bobke, thanks!
    Who was Charlie Kelly again? I googled him but I'm getting everything under the sun. Is he that famous actor? Did he just go into rehab for that hooker coke thing in LA?

    typos are quite commonplace. People don't seem to point them out in every single post so give the guy a break. Who cares about a typo.

    Tell me more about this Otis Guy. I think I'm in love.

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    Quote Originally Posted by neo_pop_71
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    C'mon Malibu,

    We're talking about Rumpfy... if he took offense to me highjacking his thread, I'm sure he'd let me know. Besides, I was just having fun with Bob about his spelling. Rumpfy doesn't need any assistance when it comes to flamin' someone, but thanks for trying to corral my silliness!

    -D-
    Not trying to corral yours. My issue was not with you, hence my quoting Bob. I wrote something else but changed it and should have deleted it altogether.
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    Quote Originally Posted by StanleyButterfly
    Who was Charlie Kelly again? I googled him but I'm getting everything under the sun. Is he that famous actor? Did he just go into rehab for that hooker coke thing in LA?
    Your Google skills are pathetic. Keeping this about Otis, Charlie Kelly is standing next to Otis Guy in this 1974 photograph. Joe Breeze is on the left, Victor Pritzker on the right in this photo taken after a tandem race in Santa Rosa.

    Google: "Charlie Kelly" and add the word "bike." That should narrow it down and my website will be the top result.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Repack Rider
    Your Google skills are pathetic. Keeping this about Otis, Charlie Kelly is standing next to Otis Guy in this 1974 photograph. Joe Breeze is on the left, Victor Pritzker on the right in this photo taken after a tandem race in Santa Rosa.

    Google: "Charlie Kelly" and add the word "bike." That should narrow it down and my website will be the top result.
    They aren't pathetic. I just didn't get the context. Your website is really great but I'm still not understanding why all this reverence to Charlie Kelly? It's not like he's the Grand Poobah or something (no offense if he is). I mean, you must like him since you made a website about him but from what I'm reading, it seems all he did was ride bikes. He didn't build them or design them. He seems to have caught the wave at the perfect time and rode it into shore.

    In his defense, I only spent 45 minutes reading it so I'll check it out some more when I get home after work today.

    Thanks for the heads up Repack Rider and I'll try to improve my googling skills!

    Love the Otis Guy, Rumpfy. Sorry for the sidebar. You are one lucky SOB!

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    Quote Originally Posted by StanleyButterfly
    It's not like he's the Grand Poobah or something (no offense if he is). I mean, you must like him since you made a website about him but from what I'm reading, it seems all he did was ride bikes. He didn't build them or design them. He seems to have caught the wave at the perfect time and rode it into shore.
    Just cause I'm the kind of guy that would tell you if you had a booger hanging out of your nose, Repack Rider IS Charlie Kelly.....

    And not that we need to bow and scrape before him, but a modicum of respect is due, at the least.
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    Quote Originally Posted by StanleyButterfly
    They aren't pathetic. I just didn't get the context. Your website is really great but I'm still not understanding why all this reverence to Charlie Kelly? It's not like he's the Grand Poobah or something (no offense if he is). I mean, you must like him since you made a website about him but from what I'm reading, it seems all he did was ride bikes. He didn't build them or design them. He seems to have caught the wave at the perfect time and rode it into shore.

    In his defense, I only spent 45 minutes reading it so I'll check it out some more when I get home after work today.

    Thanks for the heads up Repack Rider and I'll try to improve my googling skills!

    Love the Otis Guy, Rumpfy. Sorry for the sidebar. You are one lucky SOB!
    FYI: Charlie Kelly = repack rider = one of the important figures in the foundation of our sport. Show some respect.

    @ Rumpfy:

    I thought you'd be able to just pull the parts off the shelf and have that thing together in a few days.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MendonCycleSmith
    Just cause I'm the kind of guy that would tell you if you had a booger hanging out of your nose, Repack Rider IS Charlie Kelly.....

    And not that we need to bow and scrape before him, but a modicum of respect is due, at the least.

    I'll bet that he not only knows who he is but knows him personally and is screwing around. I hope. Otherwise its a classic foot in mouth.

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    Whoops! I am deeply sorry but I didn't know. His post wasn't very clear and it seemed to me like he was talking about somebody else.

    I would love to respect Charlie Kelly but I'm totally flummoxed. Obviously, I wasn't paying attention to mountain biking then but I do know enough to have the upmost respect for builders like Chris Chance, Steve Potts, Tom Ritchey, Joe Breeze and Otis Guy but how does Charlie Kelly fit into the picture?

    I'm so embarrassed to be such a n00b but perhaps my little faux pas can help the masses learn a little about mountain biking history. Repack Ryder, my deepest apologies if my slight offended you. I'm just trying to learn.

    Thanks to the rest of you for helping me wipe off my booger.

    Can I still order a frame through Otis Guy? The article said that he is still a part time builder? I would *love* to find one of his. The only ones I've seen are the beam style bikes. He and Joe Breeze still look like little kids. Probably still ride like kids too.

    Who did that paint on that Otis? Was it D&D?

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    Quote Originally Posted by muddybuddy
    I thought you'd be able to just pull the parts off the shelf and have that thing together in a few days.
    I have some of the parts needed (that were slated for another project).

    I'm a tried and true Shimano guy though and definitely not a collector/user of Suntour X-Press shifters.
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    Quote Originally Posted by StanleyButterfly
    Whoops! I am deeply sorry but I didn't know. His post wasn't very clear and it seemed to me like he was talking about somebody else.

    I would love to respect Charlie Kelly but I'm totally flummoxed. Obviously, I wasn't paying attention to mountain biking then but I do know enough to have the upmost respect for builders like Chris Chance, Steve Potts, Tom Ritchey, Joe Breeze and Otis Guy but how does Charlie Kelly fit into the picture?

    I'm so embarrassed to be such a n00b but perhaps my little faux pas can help the masses learn a little about mountain biking history. Repack Ryder, my deepest apologies if my slight offended you. I'm just trying to learn.

    Thanks to the rest of you for helping me wipe off my booger.

    Can I still order a frame through Otis Guy? The article said that he is still a part time builder? I would *love* to find one of his. The only ones I've seen are the beam style bikes. He and Joe Breeze still look like little kids. Probably still ride like kids too.

    Who did that paint on that Otis? Was it D&D?

    Spend some time reading the many other posts in this forum about CK. We expect a full report on Monday .

    Love the Otis, and even the GF approves the paint scheme I now have to take a closer look at some of the bikes in my neighborhood - you never know what's hiding underneath those deep-v wheels and cheap fixie conversions (like a Psyclone maybe?)

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    "but how does Charlie Kelly fit into the picture"

    In a nutshell Charlie Kelly had Craig Mitchell & Joe Breeze build the first two known true mountain bikes for him (everything before that was a clunker), also started the first (I think) mountain bike publication the Fat Tire Flyer, among other things.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RX-1
    "but how does Charlie Kelly fit into the picture"

    In a nutshell Charlie Kelly had Craig Mitchell & Joe Breeze build the first two known true mountain bikes for him (everything before that was a clunker), also started the first (I think) mountain bike publication the Fat Tire Flyer, among other things.

    I think that comment was in reference to his relationship to this thread...which is about the Otis Guy frame from the AOTMB show. You could bridge that to other frame builders that participated in the show with their craft as part of the discussion.

    While no one can dispute CK's involvement in the early MTB scene, to my knowledge, he never built a bike himself. I'm sure he can confirm your statement above, but CK having CM and JB build those bikes 'for him' seems...inaccurate to me.
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    Ok if i remember my history correctly Joe built the first Breezer upon a request from Charlie for a bike (Joe was building road frames at the time), and Joe kept the prototype being Breezer #1 with the handmade fork with braces. So I guess Charlies bikes were the Mitchell bike & maybe Breezer #2. I think Joe made a total of 9 or 10 bikes on the first run. Maybe someone can verify for sure, I am going from memory here.

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    No offense but can you guys discuss Charlie in another thread? I kinda like that Otis.
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    Yeah, let's hear more about this Otis guy.
    Somec is like the digital Zunow
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    Quote Originally Posted by yo-Nate-y
    Yeah, let's hear more about this Otis guy.
    Here he is with some other dude at the ride the article was about. (Jacquie Phelan photo)

    Bob Cullinan came to the Broken Drum for the Trips for Kids benefit, and I caught up with him there while he was talking with Otis.

    I accepted the apology and this really isn't about me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Repack Rider
    Here he is with some other dude at the ride the article was about.

    Haha! Are you serious?
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    Quote Originally Posted by RX-1
    "but how does Charlie Kelly fit into the picture"

    In a nutshell Charlie Kelly had Craig Mitchell & Joe Breeze build the first two known true mountain bikes for him
    Actually, I think Joe built no. 1 for himself and CK got number 2 or 3 which he used himself. That design wasn't marketed as the brand Mountain Bikes. The frames built by Tom Ritchey became the first branded Mountain Bikes by GF and CK. So RX-1, you are heading on the right track.

    Now, back to Otis.
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    So great that Otis look just as fit as he did decades ago! That's awesome. Super stud.

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    Shaved legs?????

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    "In a nutshell Charlie Kelly had Craig Mitchell & Joe Breeze build the first two known true mountain bikes for him"

    I just checked Charlies webset & the Birth of Dirt. I think I am pretty close on my mountain bike history. I have never heard anyone dispute the story of the Mitchell & Breezer bikes, so I assume it is true.

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    Otis at the 2007 Cackalacky Cup, pushing my Mountain Goat F-K-R faster than it had ever gone before.....or since




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    nice!
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    Still sporting the Softride colors.
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    Quote Originally Posted by First Flight
    Otis at the 2007 Cackalacky Cup, pushing my Mountain Goat F-K-R faster than it had ever gone before.....or since
    Not bad for a whistling lizard.

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    Bike of the Year. Well done.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rumpfy View Post

    Congrats E.

    Waited so long to see this one finished....can't wait for the big reveal.

    Such an awesome bike.



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    Quote Originally Posted by girlonbike View Post
    Bike of the Year. Well done.
    Ha! Not sure about that. There have been some killer bikes this year.

    Quote Originally Posted by eastcoaststeve View Post
    Congrats E.
    Waited so long to see this one finished....can't wait for the big reveal.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rumpfy View Post

    Oh, my....that's a beautiful shot...will make for a sweet screen saver.


    Glad to see it has grass on the tire, not carpet fibers.



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    It was a fun project. Took me long enough, but I'm happy to be (mostly) done. There are a few details I need to correct, but it was at a point that there was no reason not to finish the bike because of it.

    I need a set of black Suntour chain rings and a set of Suntour wheel quick releases (with the black rubberized lever that comes with the XC Pro hubs).

    I also took a few creative liberties since it was difficult to determine the exact part used from the pics.
    Otis said they used 'the best Suntour available at the time'...which was as much detail as he could remember. The pictures look like X-Press....which was so awful when it came in (they were even NOS), I refused to use them.
    There are also two photos of this bike. The card photo shows the bike with a black wheelset. To me it looks like XT, HG cassette. The only black Suntour were XC9000's, which would fall out of line with the XC Pro build as well.
    The other photo with Otis in the picture, the wheelset is silver...which is what I went with since XC Pro only cam in silver (that I know of).

    Definitely some oddities about this bike. Yes the top tube is 25" (and change). Short stem, less fork rake, 73*/73* angles. Feels...normal, but not. The other strange thing is the 130mm spacing out back...on a bike from 89/90, that's also unusual. Made finding the right hub more difficult than I'd figured. Hollister built the wheelset on MA40 rims. It's fully rad. I even had to go to a coin shop to get the Indian Head nickel.

    Anyway, full photo shoot is here:
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    That really is a beautiful bike and a fantastic build.
    Artistry in action.
    Nicely done Mr. Rumpfy
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    Nice work Rumpfy!

    What a toptube. Thanks for pointing that out, and I will be curious to know how it rides.

    I'm pretty sure those chainrings you had were once black and have faded to bronze.

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    You know how I feel about this one Eric.
    STELLAR!!!!!
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    what a bike rumpfy

    absolutly awesome

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    Posting this photo because I'm one of the very few in this forum who can. Maybe the only one.

    Reading this thread, in which I have exactly one post, I got in the way of a lot of CKH8 from total strangers. I wouldn't mind if that got dialed back a bit.

    This is about Otis, and because Otis is a good friend of over 40 years, here's my contribution to the thread. I was standing just uphill of the finish line on Repack the day Otis made his career run, third best all time. Otis was flying, because he is Otis and because this was his best run ever.

    About 100 yards from the finish, a dog runs out in front of him, and Otis has to come to nearly a complete stop to avoid it. He then finished a couple of seconds off the record.

    A record is a record, and Gary Fisher holds it because he was a great rider and conditions (with a tailwind) were perfect for his best run. But I am pretty convinced that Otis got cheated by a dog from having his name carved in the crumbling granite of MTB history.

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    Just guessing here, and I'll ask Otis when I see him, but the design of the seatstays seems like homage to the Excelsior.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Repack Rider View Post
    Posting this photo because I'm one of the very few in this forum who can. Maybe the only one.

    Reading this thread, in which I have exactly one post, I got in the way of a lot of CKH8 from total strangers. I wouldn't mind if that got dialed back a bit.

    This is about Otis, and because Otis is a good friend of over 40 years, here's my contribution to the thread. I was standing just uphill of the finish line on Repack the day Otis made his career run, third best all time. Otis was flying, because he is Otis and because this was his best run ever.

    About 100 yards from the finish, a dog runs out in front of him, and Otis has to come to nearly a complete stop to avoid it. He then finished a couple of seconds off the record.

    A record is a record, and Gary Fisher holds it because he was a great rider and conditions (with a tailwind) were perfect for his best run. But I am pretty convinced that Otis got cheated by a dog from having his name carved in the crumbling granite of MTB history.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Repack Rider View Post
    Posting this photo because I'm one of the very few in this forum who can. Maybe the only one.

    This is about Otis, and because Otis is a good friend of over 40 years, here's my contribution to the thread. I was standing just uphill of the finish line on Repack the day Otis made his career run, third best all time. Otis was flying, because he is Otis and because this was his best run ever.

    About 100 yards from the finish, a dog runs out in front of him, and Otis has to come to nearly a complete stop to avoid it. He then finished a couple of seconds off the record.

    A record is a record, and Gary Fisher holds it because he was a great rider and conditions (with a tailwind) were perfect for his best run. But I am pretty convinced that Otis got cheated by a dog from having his name carved in the crumbling granite of MTB history.
    I'm not sure why you'd be the only one to be able to post that photo? I have the same B-Q card pack that could be scanned.

    Great story about Otis. Bum luck with the dog robbing him of everlasting glory.

    Didn't GF's record run down Repack happen on a day you weren't there? Not that GF wasn't super fast too...its just....convenient you weren't on the timers that day.
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    Three posts prior to today Mr. Kelli.
    Quote Originally Posted by Repack Rider View Post
    Posting this photo because I'm one of the very few in this forum who can. Maybe the only one.

    Reading this thread, in which I have exactly one post, I got in the way of a lot of CKH8 from total strangers. I wouldn't mind if that got dialed back a bit.

    This is about Otis, and because Otis is a good friend of over 40 years, here's my contribution to the thread. I was standing just uphill of the finish line on Repack the day Otis made his career run, third best all time. Otis was flying, because he is Otis and because this was his best run ever.

    About 100 yards from the finish, a dog runs out in front of him, and Otis has to come to nearly a complete stop to avoid it. He then finished a couple of seconds off the record.

    A record is a record, and Gary Fisher holds it because he was a great rider and conditions (with a tailwind) were perfect for his best run. But I am pretty convinced that Otis got cheated by a dog from having his name carved in the crumbling granite of MTB history.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rumpfy View Post
    Didn't GF's record run down Repack happen on a day you weren't there? Not that GF wasn't super fast too...its just....convenient you weren't on the timers that day.
    No reason to doubt the timing. Everyone was riding within a few seconds of their best times.

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    It doesn't feel as silly as it looks like it would
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    Quote Originally Posted by hollister View Post
    It doesn't feel as silly as it looks like it would
    Nope. Noticeable, but not off putting.

    Quote Originally Posted by colker1 View Post
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    We'll see once I get it out on the trail. It's a very stout bike though.



    I'm definitely curious to see how the angles come in to play once up to speed along with the various trail input factors.
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    Don't crash and dent it.



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