Old 02-24-2012   #1
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Titanium bullmoose handlebars

We had been selling some Ti bullmoose handlebars but our source dried up. Found a potential new source for them. Here are a couple of pictures showing the old (brushed) and new (bead blasted). The finish is just a quickie for a sample pair. The new ones were supposed to be 680 but ended up at 660 so we'll need to fix that. The clamp is WAY better. Still need to ride both of them to get the angle correct on the bar. The old ones had a little upsweep on the ends while the sample is pretty flat. Have to ride them and figure it out.







Old ones were about 345g, samples are 275g
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Nice. And sweet welds. Who is doing those?
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Those look really cool--much improved! What's the extension (virtual)--or will there be options?
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Nice. And sweet welds. Who is doing those?
Really? Is it just me, or do they look a little undercut at the root? I'm definitely no welder, but what is that shadow line around the root of the weld on the stem clamp? Other than that, they do look like swanky bars... can you get them in a 140mm extension? :-)
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Really? Is it just me, or do they look a little undercut at the root? I'm definitely no welder, but what is that shadow line around the root of the weld on the stem clamp? Other than that, they do look like swanky bars... can you get them in a 140mm extension? :-)
Ya, I saw undercut, too. Much improved clamp, though!
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Can I trade my old ones in?

Not intended as anything against FFB ( you guys didn't make them of course) but the construction on mine is sketchy at best (dimpled/crumpled at the bends, and my knees quake in fear of the clamp block).

That new version is gorgeous. Nice improvement, no, huge improvement.
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We've had discussions on the weld/finish quality already and were assured this was a dimension sample only. Wes Williams built @ Alchemy.
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Can I trade my old ones in?

Not intended as anything against FFB ( you guys didn't make them of course) but the construction on mine is sketchy at best (dimpled/crumpled at the bends, and my knees quake in fear of the clamp block).

That new version is gorgeous. Nice improvement, no, huge improvement.
Sure! The first batches were Lynskey built and the clamp was what was available at the time. I think the problem with construction is the tight spaces and no paint or powder to hide flaws. Alchemy seems a little more open to doing different sizes while Lynskey wanted 5 per size. Might let us do a little more custom work.
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Sure! The first batches were Lynskey built and the clamp was what was available at the time. I think the problem with construction is the tight spaces and no paint or powder to hide flaws.
I wasn't going to name names, but, um, yeah....

I don't think paint would hide what I got. It's on a bike I rarely use anyway so it's safe feeling enough. I like the fit an dimensions, the new one is striving to be the same? I can't recall the dims on this one.

Pricing about the same?
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We've had discussions on the weld/finish quality already and were assured this was a dimension sample only. Wes Williams built @ Alchemy.
I knew those weld's were Wes's. Glad to see he hasn't lost his touch.
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Need to save some pennies for these. Wes' welds are gorgeous, and I would love to own set of these bars.
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I like the fit an dimensions, the new one is striving to be the same? I can't recall the dims on this one.

Pricing about the same?
Dimensions should be the same except for the width. Going a little wider on the new ones. Alchemy seems a little more open to allowing us to do different reach bars without having to do 5 of every size. Pricing will likely fall into the same range.
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The first batches were Lynskey built and the clamp was what was available at the time. I think the problem with construction is the tight spaces and no paint or powder to hide flaws
More like the problem is that Lynskey is not, and has never been, in the same league as Wes in regards to Ti fabrication and welding. I have always considered him to be one of the top 3 Ti guys in the world but I can't name the other two, just giving others the benefit of the doubt.
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Love it.
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Wow, those are sooooooooooo much better looking. Too bad I just ordered a stem from Steve Potts for my bike, then again it is quite pretty as well.
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Dimensions should be the same except for the width. Going a little wider on the new ones.
Sweet, wider is always better, as you can then trim to suit, but you can't ever add on if you need more.
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Sweet, wider is always better, as you can then trim to suit, but you can't ever add on if you need more.
How about the "Meter Horn"
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Good job!

wanted to buy a pair off the goat website but now I'm glad they were out of stock. The clamp on the new ones looks much better.... it's as if someone thought about it ! Keep the rise please.
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We should have sample # 2 in hand in the next couple of weeks and will go into production as long as all the details are correct.
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Very Nice! I like it.
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I'm so happy I held off on some Carbon bars. These are now on the top of my list.
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Going a full 700mm on width, easier to cut 'em down than to stretch them
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