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    The single consolidated official drop bar thread

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    There are some drop bar bikes that are set up really well and some that aren't. I'm hoping the ones that are set up really well predominate in this thread. I see some bikes posted in other forums that are really bad and it would be nice for folks to be able to find properly set up drop bar bikes in one place as a reference of sorts. VRCers seem to have the hang of setting up dirt drops. I know there are a few styles of offroad drop bars, and people have different preferences, but generally proper dirt drop bar setup fall in a pretty narrow range.

    Enough people ask about this topic in this forum, and you see plenty of people using drops these days on new bikes, how about nice repository for properly set up bikes, vintage or otherwise, with drop bars. Let's include links to external resources like Shiggy's and Guitar Ted's, good photos of 'proper' setup, philosophy, anything that will help the newb when they decide to try drop bars offroad.

    http://mtbtires.com/site2/features/3...-ride-dropbars

    http://g-tedproductions.blogspot.com...ng-part-i.html
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    Furst!

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    It's a touring bike, but they are mountain drops and it is a trail pic.
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    Nice start.

    Maybe a little more bike in each picture. Especialliy the ham
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    Quote Originally Posted by IF52
    Nice start.

    Maybe a little more bike in each picture. Especialliy the ham
    I thought the focus was the Dirt Drop Setup....

    Personaly I was admiring how each bike so far has a little different variable to the cable routing......
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aemmer
    I thought the focus was the Dirt Drop Setup....

    Personaly I was admiring how each bike so far has a little different variable to the cable routing......
    Yeah, pretty much, but it is kind of hard to get a really good idea of setup with just a snap of the bars. That picture of the Ritchey with the saddle visible is nice because it shows the bar to saddle relationship.

    It seems like a lot of folks when they first try to set up a drop bar bike wind up with the bars too low and with too long a stem. My first attemptin the early 90s was like that. I could barely reach the hoods and felt like my nose was on the stem bolt because the drops were so low.
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    Here's a link to a couple of the other pretty stacked drop bar threads:

    Any vintage drop-bar MTBs out there?

    Drop bars - Let's see em and opinions


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    Ah, damn. My search skilz suck. I was looking for those. I forgot I was the one started that one or I would have bumped it back up. Sorry.
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    Original setup with RM-3s:


    Newer setup with RM-2s:



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    I love that ibis
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    Quote Originally Posted by IF52
    I love that ibis

    Yep. One of my fave Ibis' too.
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    Between the RM-2s and RM-3s which do you prefer?

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    Quote Originally Posted by IF52
    Ah, damn. My search skilz suck. I was looking for those. I forgot I was the one started that one or I would have bumped it back up. Sorry.

    Haha, ya I was gonna call you out on that.


    This one has 'official' in the title....so MCS should put this in the main VRC sticky up top for reference.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bushpig
    Between the RM-2s and RM-3s which do you prefer?
    The RM-2s felt instantly comfortable and familiar even after riding some 20+ yrs with the RM-3s. At first I was worried about the increased width of the RM-2s on tight trails, but that doesn't seem to be an issue. My RM-2s had been cut down an inch to accommodate barcons which helps a bit.

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    the ibis is so hot. it's my fave bike in this forum.

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    Quote Originally Posted by colker1
    the ibis is so hot. it's my fave bike in this forum.
    The guys at Ibis were sure doing some nice work in those days. This bike was from the time when it was still a three man operation - Scot, Wes Williams, and the painter Lawrence. Although Scot painted this one himself.

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    I second the petition for this as a sticky, but IF--why not edit your first post into a compendium of the collective wisdom regarding fit and drop bar mtbs, some links to the previous threads, and other such business?
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    Comment moved up as suggested.
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    Sorry--I can clarify--

    I meant all of it
    Sort of like the other stickies, this thread could be a crash course for drop bars. Grab the links to the other threads, maybe write a short primer (or pull one from the other other threads) explaining the reasoning behind offroad drop bar fit. Your second paragraph in the post above sound like a good intro.

    Might be worth tossing in some other links from around the web. Then perhaps this thread CAN act as a consolidated drop bar thread and serve as a resource to people who google themselves to the VRC.

    Guitar Ted's write-up is probably useful to include a link to:
    http://g-tedproductions.blogspot.com...ng-part-i.html
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    Well...the mod could in theory merge all the threads into one.
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    i got one..
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    Drop Bars, Not Acid....

    Sorry, flashback to a less militant time.
    No idea on history of this bike+how it ended up w the current parts buildup. Got it from a friend in a trade.
    But, it really rides nice, has an almost plush give to it , especially descending.....I was pleasantly surprised....Comfy climber also, very peppy(even when I'm not)
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    I have photo's of many little dirt drop related jewel's (and a few dirt clods) from the VRC coffers. Admittedly I have stolen a ton of dirt drop related photo's from this site during my personal quest to learn about and then apply the whole theory.......

    I really dig researching old VRC threads...
    With a little filtering, there really is a lot to learn here.......
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    Here's a couple

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    But if there already some original threads about this, would that make this thread a reproduction?

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    Here's a shot my '92 Litespeed with drops.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Roadsters
    But if there already some original threads about this, would that make this thread a reproduction?
    Yes, but that's why eric mentioned having MCS merge and sticky them. There are already threads that are just picture threads, and there is the one I started a few years ago asking for advice on setup, but there isn't one good consolidated thread on the generally accepted best practice of drop bar setup. I see a lot of posts where people set there bikes up with drops, but have them set up like a road bike. Then when they finally ride them offroad, they state they hate how the bike rode. Really good pictures, like some in this thread so far, and explanation like G-Teds might induce an 'oh, duh' moment.

    I had ridden drop bar bikes like the Rock Combo and liked them, but the first time I tried to set one up myself I really didn't think about bar height and reach and wound up with it set up like a road bike and it sucked, so I gave up on the idea. Then I found this forum and it sparked my interest to try it again, properly, and I really like it. Now that is how my 29er is set up.
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    I was also spurred to try out a drop bar mtb build after reading threads here. I spent a while searching for the right stem, but finally decided to get a custom one made for my Monster Fat at Winter Cycles. I've been really happy with the Salsa Woodchipper bars. For what it's worth, here's the link and a couple pictures!

    Entire thread: Monster Fat dirt drop project

    "Finished product" post: Monster Fat dirt drop project
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    Old Muddy Fox from '88 - was my first bike, stolen and a friend had the same and gave it to me a few years ago...


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    I think this has been posted before:

    http://socketsetcycles.blogspot.com/...ustom-219.html

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    I never could get used to the barcons or the massive stack-o-spacers, so I went back to a low-rise bar -
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    The single consolidated official drop bar thread-888upgrades4.jpg
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    Still dunno what to do, maybe I'll go for 26x1.15 or 700x23. Also about the brake, I don't know if V-brake would fit with roadbike levers.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bushpig
    nice bike.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jackspade
    Still dunno what to do, maybe I'll go for 26x1.15 or 700x23. Also about the brake, I don't know if V-brake would fit with roadbike levers.
    The only real issue is cable pull. With regular road brake levers, you'd need to either use cantis, or you could add "Travel Agents," to work with V-brakes (they have a little "gearing" system that increases the cable pull).
    http://www.universalcycles.com/shopp...ls.php?id=6361

    Cane Creek also makes a road lever that pulls enough cable to work with V-brakes:
    http://www.universalcycles.com/shopp...5&category=669.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jackspade




    Still dunno what to do...
    I'm not sure what you're aiming for, but maybe compare how your bars are set up currently to how all the other bars in this thread so far are set up. Also maybe take a peek at some of the other links in this thread.
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    Quote Originally Posted by IF52
    I'm not sure what you're aiming for, but maybe compare how your bars are set up currently to how all the other bars in this thread so far are set up. Also maybe take a peek at some of the other links in this thread.
    ....except for that Litespeed

    Get yourselves some stems with rise, gentlemen!

    And BP---that is super sweet. Still a big fan of the saddle-included fade.
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    Factory Dirt Drop circa 1987.

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    Thanks Grant.
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    The single consolidated official drop bar thread-jacquiecolorado.jpg

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    If any of those sets are up for grabs let me know!
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    I wish. Those are just pretty photo's I borrowed from the bay that give a pretty good close up for someone who has never used them before.
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    Jackie was sponsored by columbus.. wht part of that cunningham was columbus? aluminum tubes?
    btw... interesting build w/ RS there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aemmer
    Factory Dirt Drop circa 1987.
    Factory Dirt Drop circa 1989 (courtesy from a posting by datawhacker):




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    That Litespeed is my ride, I come from a road background but have been racing off-road since 1987. It gets kinda hairy on drop-offs but it's awesome for downhills. Check out early pics of Tomac on his drop bar Yeti & you can see the road influence.

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    Wow Aemmer, you weren't kidding! Tons of good stuff piling in.
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