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    Quote Originally Posted by girlonbike View Post
    If you ran more housing, they don't get in the way. Glad you liked it.
    Good point, I really thought I would hate it so I just used the housing from my flat bars rather than cut new ones. It was a real stretch, haha!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sizzler View Post
    I decided to throw some dirt drops on my Bontrager and it really sucked! The problem was I had convinced myself I would hate them, so when I ended up loving them I got all mixed up inside. It climbs like a spider monkey, cruises like a crown victoria and descends like a flying squirrel. Now, I'm left to pick up the pieces and decide how to rebuild the bike around them! The only issues I had were the vintage gran-compe levers, which look great but the cables were in the way and I need more meat to grab onto, so I think I'll use some modern Cane Creek's like rigidftw. Also, that heinous rastafied cinelli world champion tape needs to go!
    it gets better when you lower those brake levers by an in..

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    Cool, I'll keep that in mind when I re-wrap them!

    Also, how is a drop bar thread missing this picture?
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    New to drops

    I have a question about compatibility of levers and shifters, new to the drops so as you can see I have no idea. I picked up some NOS Dia Comp levers





    and Suntour shifters





    that I think will work for this application but I'm turning to the ones who know for sure....will they? Oh, and for shawnw, I have your brake pads, you are going to like them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by proto2000 View Post
    I have a question about compatibility of levers and shifters, new to the drops so as you can see I have no idea. I picked up some NOS Dia Comp levers

    and Suntour shifters

    that I think will work for this application but I'm turning to the ones who know for sure....will they? Oh, and for shawnw, I have your brake pads, you are going to like them.
    Those levers are, I think, for V-brakes (hence the "V" in the model number). If that's what you're going to run on your drop bar bike, then great. If you're running canti's or some rollercam variant then nope.

    Haven't seen a lot of people run those Suntour Command shifters on a flared drop setup, but there's a whole lot of personal preference that goes into shifter selection and placement on these. I'd suggest some riding, fiddling and experimentation before you do a "final" bar wrap.

    I hope shawnw has a lot of thick-walled rims to go with those brake pads. ;p

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    Installed some dirt drops on my old Schwinn tonight using a VooDoo stem. Made it into a gravel bike for winter rides. I'll have to try it out tomorrow.
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    If you decide those shifters aren't for you, just send them my way!

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    Wow!

    That is one eclectic setup! Looks like a bike shiggy would own! Curious about the Voodoo stem, I keep wanting to order one, but they sure ain't cheap! How much exposed steerer do you need for installation?

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    Quote Originally Posted by iamkeith View Post
    you can tell how the VRC crowd feels about those, based on the discussion of my bike...
    you mean the one pro canti comment?

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    Quote Originally Posted by proto2000 View Post
    I have a question about compatibility of levers and shifters, new to the drops so as you can see I have no idea. I picked up some NOS Dia Comp levers and Suntour shifters that I think will work for this application but I'm turning to the ones who know for sure....will they?
    Those levers and shifters will work just fine together. That's the exact combination I used on my MB-1, shown just a few posts back in this very thread, and I couldn't be happier with them.

    Those shifters have a lot of position adjustment options, so it'll take some time to get them "just right." I've never spent so much time fine tuning mounting positions, cants, and bar angles as I did with this setup, but it works great in the end. You'll swear that the shifter thumb levers are rotated 180 degrees off from where they should be when you're putting them together, but they're very easy to operate when riding, even in the intended position.

    BTW: When installing the bar tape, I was able to loop around the shifter pedestal, reverse directions twice, and then then continue back along the original route, which gave me pretty thorough coverage. Hard to explain, but you can kind of see it in my photos.

    @halaburt is correct that you'll need V-brakes though. That's a whole other discussion, and you can tell how the VRC crowd feels about those, based on the discussion of my bike...
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    Quote Originally Posted by girlonbike View Post
    you mean the one pro canti comment?
    Well... one respected comment, I guess. But a general sense gleened from other threads as well. Didn't I once even see you yourself say that you thought pre-V brakes was sort of a natural cutoff for the identification of vintage versus non-vintage bikes?
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    Quote Originally Posted by 1 cog frog View Post
    That is one eclectic setup! Looks like a bike shiggy would own! Curious about the Voodoo stem, I keep wanting to order one, but they sure ain't cheap! How much exposed steerer do you need for installation?

    frog
    It's one of those run what you brung kind of builds and will certainly offend some It's not going to be a frequent ride and I wanted to use stuff I had on hand for the most part. I bought the stem and bars a while ago just to have another dirt drop set up and this seemed like a good place to hang them. The only thing I had to buy was the Shimano rear derailleur to work with the Suntour barcons since I usually run Sram.

    I don't remember the stem being very expensive. Like $75. I don't think that is a lot for a stem anyhow. There is a T slot cut into it and if you want to clear the T you need about 1 5/8" to a max of 1 3/4" steertube sticking out. If you're not concerned with covering the top of the T you could probably get away with less. It's built pretty stout.
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    Quote Originally Posted by iamkeith View Post
    Well... one respected comment, I guess. But a general sense gleened from other threads as well. Didn't I once even see you yourself say that you thought pre-V brakes was sort of a natural cutoff for the identification of vintage versus non-vintage bikes?
    You're absolutely right. That is my own personal cutoff for my own bikes but when people posts bikes, I generally try not to be hypercritical unless it's a veiled for sale outing or something is very very wrong with the bike. V brakes doesn't fall into the very very wrong category in my opinion.

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    Good stuff..really enjoying the drop bars on the fixed gear mtb




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    Is it not awkward riding drops on a mountain bike?

    Anyone ever put bullhorns on a mountain bike?

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    I'd like a 'cool' stem for my DD build, but these prices are stunning!

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    Nice Salsa stem and all, but I'd be hard pressed to shell out $172 for one-hope it fits the buyer's build perfectly! I guess I should feel fortunate, that stem is wrong for my build anyway.

    This is my latest project-can you say wheelbase? I knew you could! Odd geometry, but I love it and am looking forward to seeing how it rides. I didn't notice the sloping top tube until I saw this pic-I had to go measure just to be sure, and it does drop a bit, strange for a bike from this era-as far as I can tell it's an '85. I've never seen another, and would love to know the original spec. All it came with was one trashed Mavic crank arm and a set of first generation Suntour roller cams.

    It's my 'winter' build, inspired by a set of tires-I'll explain when it comes together.







    I'm in the early stages, had to mod an old Kalloy stem (wouldn't go past the bends on the bars, and the clamp was too small) to attach the bars and work on the fit, and I'm currently building some adapters so that my shifters will be directly bolted to my brake levers. I think the frameset is from '85 or so, and I'm trying to stay away from Shimano parts if possible, so far, so good, mostly Suntour XC stuff, AT crankset, and a tri-pulley ARX rear derailleur.

    I've been telling myself this is my last build.....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shogun700 View Post
    It's my 'winter' build, inspired by a set of tires-I'll explain when it comes together.

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    Found this for sale on ebay, where else, in India.



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    Closer, but not quite there yet....

    As I mentioned before, the whole build was inspired by a set of tires-NOS Tioga Farmer Johns that I found all studded up and not exactly practical, but I thought with the Marinoni being Canadian, a winter build might be the way to go with it even though the tires are just for pictures. I'm happy with most of it so far, I suppose I'd prefer black hoods for the levers, gotta put the XC-II's back on, and the rear shifting is pretty stiff-I will need to address that. The shifter setup has taken some time to sort out-I drilled the lever bodies in several spots to test mounting positions and had to find a way to secure them to the levers, but so far so good.

    The stem is still an issue, so no tape yet. I need 100-110mm quil extension, but with a 26.0 clamp. Ben's has Nitto DD stems with a long enough quil, but only in 25.4 clamp diameter, and the stems with a 26.0 clamp are only 90mm extension. Is it possible to ream a 25.4 to a 26.0? I'm also pretty much committed to a stem-mounted cable stop as there is not enough length to the head tube for me to fit one at the headset-I was able to solve this with a v-brake noodle (you can see it in the first pic) and it works well without binding.

    I'll probably do a build thread when it's finished and show how I mounted the shifters...I want to make sure they work as intended, if they are impractical then it's pointless.


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    If that doesn't work, you might could try these:
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    the only place where you can get the nitto 26.0 is rivendell bikes:
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    Thanks for the info guys, Rivendell does have a stem that might work if I can sort the brake cable routing out.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shogun700 View Post
    [IMG]As I mentioned before, the whole build was inspired by a set of tires-NOS Tioga Farmer Johns that I found all studded up and not exactly practical, but I thought with the Marinoni being Canadian, a winter build might be the way to go with it even though the tires are just for pictures.
    Maybe this is what you're saying, but the Farmer Johns are backwards, aren't they? God, I used to love those tires, but I always ran them the same way as tractors and back-hoes run their tires - rotating so that the point of the chevron struck the ground first. "Digging in" versus "shoveling." Gonna be a cool bike though. I like your shifter mod, and I'm interested to see how well it works out.
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    Quote Originally Posted by iamkeith View Post
    Maybe this is what you're saying, but the Farmer Johns are backwards, aren't they? God, I used to love those tires, but I always ran them the same way as tractors and back-hoes run their tires - rotating so that the point of the chevron struck the ground first. "Digging in" versus "shoveling." Gonna be a cool bike though. I like your shifter mod, and I'm interested to see how well it works out.

    I could not agree more about the tires....I spent an hour on the web trying to find out the correct way to mount them, found a few threads where the general consensus for tires was the labels should be on the drive side-even found one thread where a guy said something like "we've been arguing about this since the Tioga Farmer Johns came out". I really, really wanted to mount them the other way....glad you brought it up.

    Regarding the shifters-I'm sure someone else has tried what I'm doing, it's not rocket science. For most applications, it wouldn't make sense as you cannot ride on the hoods with the shifter in the way, but for DD purposes the potential pitfall is the lever being in the way of the grip area in the drops when you are in the middle gear. We will see.
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    1990 Trek 950 Singletrack SS




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    Someone named "Othervoicez" should be contacting you soon....
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    Quote Originally Posted by merzperson View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aemmer View Post
    I was cracking myself up with my joke this morning and nobody even gave me so much as a sympathy laugh....
    You can do better.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Rumpfy View Post
    You can do better.


    While we're at it....I find that Trek offensive.
    Offensive and beautiful at the same time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rumpfy View Post
    While we're at it....I find that Trek offensive.
    I am certainly no expert or "vintage bike purist" (not even close), so might I inquire why you find the bike offensive short of the cheap-o made in China fluorescent green tires?

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    Quote Originally Posted by merzperson View Post
    I am certainly no expert or "vintage bike purist" (not even close), so might I inquire why you find the bike offensive short of the cheap-o made in China fluorescent green tires?
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    Just having fun, don't take it personal.....

    Your bike just reminded me of a fun thread here on VRC



    I used to try to run any crazy colored tire I could find
    I have had so many I cant list them all
    the wild gripper by Michelin (green)
    and a few specialized tires in various colors

    I going to replenish my selection of
    colored tires and brake lever extensions?
    - glad to be here.

    I know those colored tires are out there
    but where?


    I just dont give up that easily.
    who here can steer me in the right direction?
    I bought 2 sets of darwin lever extensions
    but I have still no avenues on the colored tires.

    anyone?

    ???
    any help on this much wanted info?

    I have ran colored tires since my first tailwhips on my gt performer in 1988
    so it is just a matter of my tastes

    so anyone able to help out with some actual info?
    Im sure there are actual members here who actually have knowledge
    and would enjoy giving this site some credibility as being a place where the members
    actually know there hobby.

    any one?

    ahh see colored tires are not so silly after all

    glad to see someone who has no problem enjoying what they like


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    Quote Originally Posted by merzperson View Post
    I am certainly no expert or "vintage bike purist" (not even close), so might I inquire why you find the bike offensive short of the cheap-o made in China fluorescent green tires?
    Well...I'm a purist, so its more my problem than yours. If the bike works, then sweet.
    For me personally, Tektro brake levers and cheapo v-brakes don't get me too stoked. Quill stem set all super high (hopefully below limit line). From there non-cloth tape. New newer saddle and newer drop bars look ugly on old bikes. Again, just my opinion.
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    Quote Originally Posted by merzperson View Post
    I am certainly no expert or "vintage bike purist" (not even close), so might I inquire why you find the bike offensive short of the cheap-o made in China fluorescent green tires?
    This is the legendary MTBR 'VRC' public forum-it exists to help those who were 'in the know' back in the day learn about pedestrian MTB's from the 'new era' after 1988 or so, when the introduction of fluorescent spandex pants apparently caused semi-permanent blindness. Otherwise, they would have a dedicated, private forum to talk to each other about the bikes deemed worthy, and there is simply no fun or point in that!

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    Otherwise, they would have a dedicated, private forum to talk to each other about the bikes deemed worthy, and there is simply no fun or point in that!

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    Yeah, I'm definitely not trying to break the bank on period correct parts, but rather putting together something that is fun to ride, inexpensive, and looks good (to me). I suppose this means it doesn't belong in the vintage forum. I do need a new stem though.

    By the way, anyone seen any Merz MTB's here on the forum?

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    Quote Originally Posted by merzperson View Post
    By the way, anyone seen any Merz MTB's here on the forum?

    Yes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aemmer View Post
    ....Winter is waning, must get out and ride soon.......

    Agreed! No snow here.....but my neck/back are a mess. *sigh*

    Merzperson, your bike belongs here, there are plenty of older mtb's floating around the forum with newer parts like yours. Don't hesitate to post, just be ready for blunt opinions-both positive and negative. I own several bikes, both 'worthy ' and not-so-worthy, an post them all up fearlessly.

    I like your ride, the 950 frame looks good with the drops and it's really clean, well done. I want to hate the tires, but it's not happening!
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    Well hey - I'm here to learn, so I'll take the negative comments. I'd never claim to know more about vintage bikes than anyone else on here. I found this Trek on CL for $75 and have had a blast riding it and fixing it up (on a poor college student budget). I've always thought classic mountain bikes are some of the most beautiful bicycles that have ever been made and it's been my dream to put one together.

    If anyone has any photos of Merz MTB's I'd love to see them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CS2 View Post
    Anyone make anything close to these today? The closest I could find was the Kelly Take Off
    Kelly Bike Company

    There is an interesting lever coming out for the cyclocross gang Retroshift.
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    I don't get the fuss about whether a certian bike is worthy or not worthy. He's got a mountain bike with drop bars in "The single consolidated official drop bar thread". He's out riding a bike that he built himself and he's having a good time. If he builds a bike to his liking because that is what he wants then that's great. I give him props. I'd run lime green tires in a heartbeat also.


    Keeping on topic..Here is an updated picture of my bike. Since last time it was posted it has gotten new tires (I really miss the gum walls...) and tubes, a new saddle and pedals. Now the bike may seem silly to you, but I love this bike. I've got less than $50 bucks in the entire build and so far this year I've ridden it much more than my other bikes that have cost much more.




    I will get some better pictures, a cellphone pic on a sunny day is horrible

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    Quote Originally Posted by sasquatch rides a SS View Post
    I don't get the fuss about whether a certian bike is worthy or not worthy. He's got a mountain bike with drop bars in "The single consolidated official drop bar thread". He's out riding a bike that he built himself and he's having a good time. If he builds a bike to his liking because that is what he wants then that's great. I give him props. I'd run lime green tires in a heartbeat also.
    Most people are very simple minded. They want to be like everybody else and want everybody else to be like them. When someone steps across the line their mob mentality kicks in and they go into automatic rejection without really analyzing where their ill-founded thoughts come from.

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    Darn,
    I was just having fun because the green tires reminded me of Othervoicez. Not sure how that was complaining, but lets be honest, those are the brightest tires to appear in VRC for quite some time.

    As far as the build goes on the TREK; The drops to saddle ratio appears to be huge and I don't know if this would be conductive towards a comfortable long ride. I believe there is a lot of confusion about what the vintage drop bar mountain bike was trying to accomplish, and several builds here are put together with the emphasis on riding the hoods not the drops. This is fine if that is what you are trying to accomplish, but it is not in the spirit of the vintage mountainbike drop bar rides which were designed to ride mainly with the hands in the drops.

    Vintage drop bar mountainbikes were designed to ride the drops for several reasons including an ergonomic correct hand position, and using the bend of the bars as a source of suspension.

    I am now ready to be blasted for stating my opinion.....flame on.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aemmer View Post
    Darn,
    I was just having fun because the green tires reminded me of Othervoicez. Not sure how that was complaining, but lets be honest, those are the brightest tires to appear in VRC for quite some time.

    As far as the build goes on the TREK; The drops to saddle ratio appears to be huge and I don't know if this would be conductive towards a comfortable long ride. I believe there is a lot of confusion about what the vintage drop bar mountain bike was trying to accomplish, and several builds here are put together with the emphasis on riding the hoods not the drops. This is fine if that is what you are trying to accomplish, but it is not in the spirit of the vintage mountainbike drop bar rides which were designed to ride mainly with the hands in the drops.

    Vintage drop bar mountainbikes were designed to ride the drops for several reasons including hand position and using the bend of the bars as a source of suspension.

    I am now ready to be blasted for stating my opinion.....flame on.....

    Ride what you brought and ride hard,
    That's just good, constructive critique. What he's saying, @merzperson, is that you'd probably be more comfortable on a stem that is much shorter taller. (look for a kalloy, if you don't want to spend a bunch of money) Unlike a road bike, you should ride in the hooks 100% of the time, and your grip area wants to be in roughly the same position, relative to the saddle, as it would have been if you were using a typical flat bar and that 140mm or 150mm stem.

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    The saddle to bar drop doesn't look all that bad for his height, but the reach does look fairly long. Remember taller guys can get away with more of a difference between bar and saddle height because their longer arms make up the difference. In the end, it's about the angle of your back, not a set in stone bar to seat ratio, because everybody's got dif bodily proportions.

    Heck, look at the king/originator/founder of off road drop bars (Charlie Cunningham) and his bike has a 2-3" (maybe more as I'm going off memory) difference between bar and saddle height.

    And the height of the bars isn't necessarily a comfort thing (people do the RAAM with low bars), it's more to do with weight distribution for riding in the dirt and technical terrain vs the road which doesn't ever need much rearward body English.
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    saddle to bar drop doesn't look all that bad for his height

    Ok probably just the angle of the photo and a strong back. FWIW here is a pic of mine 6' 3" , 48 YO and slacking in the yoga classes. I think I squatted down a little more when I took the pic.




    the reach does look fairly long

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