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    Quote Originally Posted by oneschnark View Post
    Hi, here is my Salsa 1989
    The stem and hte fork are repaint

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    Very nice Philippe! My '89 has the same triangular gusset. I think soon afterwards, Salsa went to the Bontrager-style gusset that you see through the 90's production bikes, which allowed for a bit more compliance.

    Please post some more photos in the Official Salsa Thread (All Things Moto!)

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    Sweet bike.
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    Late 80's Grizzly. Suntour Command (butterfly) shifters.

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    The single consolidated official drop bar thread


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    NIce Rockcombo!
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    Yeah. Original bars too.
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    What kind of tape do you use for your VRC build? I'm trying to decide between new Cinelli, Brooks leather, and possibly some NOS Cinelli. What do you like?

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    Cloth. Velox Tressostar or Newbaums. Velox often requires 4 rolls/bar. Newbaums is long and nice, but does seem to (UV) fade a bit faster -- perhaps owing to its "eco-friendly" dyes.
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    What Hala said, always cloth. Newbaums for me.
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    Just back from shakedown ride... so far, so GOOD! 1991 Stumpjumper Comp built with black LX, Salsa woodchippers, and Deore Thumbies on drop bar mounts.
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    awesome.

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    Not sure if I posted this bike previously (and too lazy to search the thread). '92 Salsa ala Carte jelly bean with WTB drops, Bontrager composite fork and P7 stem.


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    Nice, which seat cluster arrangement came on that one?
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    Hey, first post on MTBR...my name says it all. I'm too young to have been around during the heyday of the dirt drop, but appreciate it in all of its glory. Working on setting up a Bontrager Privateer with dirt drops. Will drop some photos here as the build progresses. You're also welcome to follow along as I post more on IG via @dirt_drops.

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    That looks great Scooderdude! How'd you like the ride? Do you have it set up the way you like now?

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    Great thread.
    This is my 1986 High Sierra budget build (original brakes, wheels, bb, derailleurs--sontour xc--and seatpost. Saddle from a 1985 Miyata 610 (my Brooks B17 is on that), barstem, bars and levers from a $15 1984 Miyata 210, $20 suntour barcons from CL, Planet Bike bartape, parts bin deore xt crank arms with the original High Sierra chainrings, Shimano HG37 Freewheel, $5 CL VP spd pedals, CST 2.4" Cyclops tires.




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    Great rig for fire roads.
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    Great thread.
    This is my 1986 High Sierra budget build (original brakes, wheels, bb, derailleurs--sontour xc--and seatpost. Saddle from a 1985 Miyata 610 (my Brooks B17 is on that), barstem, bars and levers from a $15 1984 Miyata 210, $20 suntour barcons from CL, Planet Bike bartape, parts bin deore xt crank arms with the original High Sierra chainrings, Shimano HG37 Freewheel, $5 CL VP spd pedals, CST 2.4" Cyclops tires.



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    Benedict shredding on a Clockwork frame and LD!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Clockwork Bikes View Post
    Benedict shredding on a Clockwork frame and LD!

    Great picture! How does that front disc work with the 1/2" (or are those 3/8"?) fork blades? No flex issues? What's the story on those skinwall Ardents?? Cool!

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    They're standard fork blades with a thicker wall.
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    Hi, AMERICAN 1991 / 92 with Nitto



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    Quote Originally Posted by oneschnark View Post
    Hi, AMERICAN 1991 / 92 with Nitto



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    That is awesome!

    Looks aggressive too....great build.


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    Quote Originally Posted by oneschnark View Post
    Hi, AMERICAN 1991 / 92 with Nitto


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    Great looking bike and love the component choices. And all the visuals point to it being built by a skilled mechanic (which always make the bike look better). Thanks for sharing. I like it!

    How do you like the bars? Was it hard to get them through that stem?

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    Beautiful American.

    Serial number should tell you if it's a 91 or 92.

    Make mine clipless or at least toe clips. Never stay on the pedals that way myself.
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    The stem is a GT.
    No difficulty to get the Nitto through that stem.
    I love this bike, and for Berlin , perfect


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    Rawland Drakkar Dirt Dropper

    Just stumbled on this thread and thought I'd share a recent drop bar project.

    I set out to build a gravel bike/dirt camper and stumbled across this Rawland Drakkar. It is designed to run up to 2.35" 29er tires and with a drop bar. Notice the longer top tube length and the height of the head tube to mask the stack height with a modern stem set up.

    The hardest thing for me was erasing the mental picture of what a "serious" drop bar bike looks like, with the bars significantly lower that seat (i. e. top bar is #1 position!).

    Anyway it really helped looking at the older Cunninghams, Salsas and WTBs to get the look burned into my mind as to what the proportions should look like.

    That got me in the zone but now with hundreds of dirt and commuting miles on this thing I've lowered it a bit (to open all the hand positions w/out sacrificing the main drop position) and moved from a Midge to a slightly narrower SOMA Portola bar.
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    Don't remember if I've posted any of these on this thread - so I'll throw 'em all together in one post
    The "CamoTam"


    The Ibis


    An earlier Fisher Mt Tam that I converted to drop bar (sold to fellow VRC member with original flatbar setup)


    The "Kleiningham"


    I had this Ritchey P series built up for a while as a dropbar. Didn't fit. Stripped and sold.


    And finally, the Potts

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joe Steel View Post
    Don't remember if I've posted any of these on this thread - so I'll throw 'em all together in one post
    The "CamoTam"


    The Ibis


    An earlier Fisher Mt Tam that I converted to drop bar (sold to fellow VRC member with original flatbar setup)


    The "Kleiningham"


    I had this Ritchey P series built up for a while as a dropbar. Didn't fit. Stripped and sold.


    And finally, the Potts

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    Love the brown Ritchey..
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    NOTHING WORKS LIKE CLOCKWORK

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    Quote Originally Posted by Clockwork Bikes View Post
    nice. it could use less gears behind and another upfront.. imho.
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    Nice Joel! Very cool.

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    Love those Ardants! What size are they?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Clockwork Bikes View Post
    Great bike. Love the parts selection too; especially that Nitto 65 (Pearl?) seatpost w/ the Hite Rite mounted up to a Brooks. I think my only change if I ordered up one of those would be a request for some stouter fork blades (but I do love the early 80s look of them as they are). Is it raw or clear coated?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Clockwork Bikes View Post
    Joel, that bike is way cool (even says so on the seattube).

    I took the liberty of linking to your flickr build album: https://www.flickr.com/photos/clockw...57632468109162
    That skinny bladed fork with internal hose routing and retro crown is quite an item. Now that I'm nursing rotator cuff tendonitus from riding a flat bar 29er with stout rigid fork, your compliant skinny-blade fork is looking pretty luxurious.

    And the component choice is sweet but I would ditch the BB7s for maybe a set of those dual-action Spyres.

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    Cool!
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    Trek 970

    Not as classy as some of you guys/gals rides but here she is in pavement mode....

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    1989 GT Tequesta

    My dad had his old and barely used GT Tequesta laying around in his basement, so I decided to convert it to a drop bar commuting monster!
    The thumb shifters that it came with conveniently had steel bands, so I was able to spread them a bit to fit on the ends of the drops so they operate like barcons.

    I was pleasantly surprised at its 27.5 lb weight with heavy pedals and tires. I also added personal touches such as pink bar tape and its many stickers. My favorite is the "Bacon Powered" one on the top tube

    The thing rides great: it's smooth in the way only steel can be, and while it's heavier and slightly slower than a road oriented bike it doesn't feel sluggish. It's low profile so it's unlikely to attract thieves, and I'd like to try touring in the future and this would be a good bike to ride as well

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    There are so many great bikes here. Lots of inspiration!

    I've been SLOWLY rebuilding a 1990 stumpjumper I picked up off CL last year.

    I have 2 questions though.

    1) Does anyone know where I can find a pair of 25.4 Midge drops? I've been watching On One's site for quite a while, but they seem to be sold out every time I check. I've even tried ebay, but I haven't seen them in my clamp size.

    2) Does anyone have experience fitting 26x2.35 tires with fenders on an old stumpjumper or comparable bike? I really like the idea of fatty tires (schwalbe big apples or big bens), but I don't want to get them on there only to find out later I don't have room for a fender?

    Thanks in advance for any help!

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    2.35 might fit, but likely not if you want fenders too. Depends on how old a Specialized and what kind of fenders, of course.
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    Good luck finding Midges in that size, check out the Origin8 Gary bars as a substitute. As far as big tires go, I got nothing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RideAtDawn View Post
    There are so many great bikes here. Lots of inspiration!

    I've been SLOWLY rebuilding a 1990 stumpjumper I picked up off CL last year.

    I have 2 questions though.

    1) Does anyone know where I can find a pair of 25.4 Midge drops? I've been watching On One's site for quite a while, but they seem to be sold out every time I check. I've even tried ebay, but I haven't seen them in my clamp size.

    2) Does anyone have experience fitting 26x2.35 tires with fenders on an old stumpjumper or comparable bike? I really like the idea of fatty tires (schwalbe big apples or big bens), but I don't want to get them on there only to find out later I don't have room for a fender?

    Thanks in advance for any help!
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    The single consolidated official drop bar thread

    I have a 25.4 Midge that I'm not using. Hit me with a pm

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    We had the same frustration with On-One and Planet X and I love the Midge bars. Soma to the rescue! The Portola and Junebug bars are a close copy to the Midge, but better because the drop portion is a bit longer. The Portola is 26.0 and silver. The Junebug is 31.8 and black.

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    Thanks everyone for the replies. I'm actually new to the forum and stoked to see how helpful everyone is.

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    Midge bar on a Rockhopper. Going friction shifting with Gevenalle (formerly Retroshift).

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    How does the positioning work out for the shifters with that bar? From here it looks like it would be difficult to reach them from the hoods.
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    Midge bar on a Rockhopper. Going friction shifting with Gevenalle (formerly Retroshift).
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    Quote Originally Posted by jeff View Post
    How does the positioning work out for the shifters with that bar? From here it looks like it would be difficult to reach them from the hoods.
    Haven't been able to ride it yet. Just received the brake cable hanger yesterday, so I was able to finish up the front and wrap the left side of the bar.

    In general the Gevenalle (Retroshift) stuff requires taking my hands off the drops and shifting from the hoods (as seen in the bar orientation in the pic). Once on the hoods, it takes minimum effort to throw it from one direction to another.

    Since this is a general fire-road bike, I'm going to need to plan my shifts ahead of time, which shouldn't be a problem. Besides, I'm almost always in grannie gear when climbing so I won't be doing much shifting.

    I'll report back after my first ride. I just need better brakes than the Exage stuff. New pads and they're already squealing on the repair stand during tuning.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tk1971 View Post


    Midge bar on a Rockhopper. Going friction shifting with Gevenalle (formerly Retroshift).
    That's a very nice Rockhopper. An extremely underrated bike.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RideAtDawn View Post
    2) Does anyone have experience fitting 26x2.35 tires with fenders on an old stumpjumper or comparable bike? I really like the idea of fatty tires (schwalbe big apples or big bens), but I don't want to get them on there only to find out later I don't have room for a fender?
    From what I've seen at our local bike co-op, I think most older frames will fit a 2.35 big apple with fenders.

    Here are my two successes (an 89 kuwahara which I replaced with an 85 bridgestone):





    Both frames had lots of clearance, and the biggest challenge is that I have to keep the fenders pretty low so that they don't interfere with the (non VRC) v-brakes. With cantis I don't think it would be a problem.

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    Finally took the Rockhopper up the San Olene Fireroad this weekend.

    Almost right away, I had to raise the seatpost and slide the saddle back.

    Going up was not bad (takes some getting used to). Angle of the bar needs to be adjusted, but I made it up to the top with minimum fuss.





    Then I started going down. Sure enough, I found it difficult to keep my hands on the drops. The rough terrain and my speed would bump my hands off the bars. I had to make 2 adjustments to the angle of the bar before I finished going down. Here is where it settled to now.



    Looks like I have some more tinkering to do. I ordered a longer quill stem adapter. I'm going to have to re-position the brake levers. I should have cut the brake cables / housing longer.

    Overall, the bike performed very well. Surprisingly, the Exage brakes performed adequately. I used a razor to remove the excess "flashing" from the cheap replacement pads, so that it wouldn't rub against the tire sidewalls. I got rid of that pesky squealing with proper toe-in.

    Can't wait to finalize the setup.


    Added:
    Got myself a taller stem adapter. Had to cut new cables and housing. Also fixed a minor oversight and added an inline barrel adjuster for the rear brake. Didn't like the look of the thin stem adapter, so I sleeved it up with an old/discarded/stretched-out grip.



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    2nd ride was much better. Got me the entry level GoPro, so here are some screen capture shots from the video:









    No problems going down:

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    Grrattitude

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    I posted pics of my build in one of the other monstercross/drop bar MTB threads. There are lots of great builds and ideas here. After scrapping my first two attempts at building a monstercross bike (not including the Miyata Junior Ten 24" 10-speed I destroyed off-roading in the early 80's), this is my third and ultimate drop bar build. And I f%^*ing love it.

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    That's a good looking bike.
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    I posted pics of my build in one of the other monstercross/drop bar MTB threads. There are lots of great builds and ideas here. After scrapping my first two attempts at building a monstercross bike (not including the Miyata Junior Ten 24" 10-speed I destroyed off-roading in the early 80's), this is my third and ultimate drop bar build. And I f%^*ing love it.
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    First build up:


    Beast mode:


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    Quote Originally Posted by shawnw View Post
    A Ham without Roller Cams?
    Quite a few out there like that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jeff View Post
    That's a good looking bike.
    Thanks. This is as close to a road bike as I'll ever own, since I prefer to steer clear of cars, cops & concrete.

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    tk1971 I like your Rockhopper. Did you ever think about a bigger frame? That's a lot of seatpost and stem showing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CS2 View Post
    tk1971 I like your Rockhopper. Did you ever think about a bigger frame? That's a lot of seatpost and stem showing.
    It actually fits me very really well. The bike feels very agile, and at no time do I feel like I'm going over the bars.

    When I was researching all these posts about drop bar mtb conversions, I read from somewhere (probably this thread) that when converting a frame that is not specifically designed for a drop bar, starting off with a smaller frame is a good way to accommodate the longer reach with the drop bars.

    I can ride faster on this bike than my Raleigh XC bike. The weight may have alot to do with it. The Rockhopper seems to be perfect in balance and weight (around 27 lbs). Very capable.

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    Where on earth are you people getting your quill stems from!!!
    Is there is place that sells those curved goose neck looking stems or do I have to A) get one made or B) get lucky and find one on ebay

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    A. Try Clockwork. If you plan on B, start saving money, and developing patience (the first one in about a year just sold on Ebay a week or two ago).

    C. Buy a Nitto Dirt drop stem from Rivendelle.

    Also your questions have already been answered in this thread. I would suggest skimming it at least, beginning to end.
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    Just put together another one.



    Can't wait to ride it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mbond09 View Post
    Where on earth are you people getting your quill stems from!!!
    This is the threadless stem I use on my modern bikes. It looks sort of like an LD/gooseneck stem but costs a lot less. They're from a UK company but you can get them in the US, Google "humpert ergotech high charisma" (Brits have silly names for everything):


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    Does that stem replace the headset topcap?

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    ^ yup. It can actually makes things tough though, because I found it was too high (I'd have preferred a 60 or 75mm) but there's no way to lower it without cutting the steerer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by newfangled View Post
    ^ yup. It can actually makes things tough though, because I found it was too high (I'd have preferred a 60 or 75mm) but there's no way to lower it without cutting the headtube.

    Go to their website. They come in 2 heights. You might have the tall.
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    ^ I've definitely got the shorter 90mm one. But it added 1-1/2" of height when my 29er probably needed half that.

    Basically, it's pretty dramatic. But I'm sure I'll find it handy when the revamped Luxy bar comes out and I'm trying to fit it to an old 26er.

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    Quote Originally Posted by newfangled View Post
    ^ I've definitely got the shorter 90mm one. But it added 1-1/2" of height when my 29er probably needed half that.

    Basically, it's pretty dramatic. But I'm sure I'll find it handy when the revamped Luxy bar comes out and I'm trying to fit it to an old 26er.
    The short version is called the Charisma. It's 20 deg rise. The High Charisma, pictured above, is 45 deg.
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    ^ ah, I see. But this was the typical dirtdrop struggle of height vs. reach, and a 20deg would have been too much reach. The 90/45deg sounded really promising, but for me it ended up being less comfortable than a shorter 35deg.

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    2004 Dirt Drop Serotta Odile

    Having a blast with the Dirt Drop Odile 53 degree rise custom Igleheart stem puts the Woodchippers in a good position for drops only riding. The stem I believe is very close to the specs for the original Salsa P10 stem (mine is more like a P9.5 for reach). Great cockpit setup and I will gladly accept the weight penalty for its functionality.
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    Dirt Drops in SFGate picture thread

    Not just any mountain bike, Dirt Drop Mountain Bike.


    The single consolidated official drop bar thread-1024x1024.jpg
    And there are so many other fun outdoorsy things to do here, including mountain biking, which was invented in Marin County. (Photo on Mt. Tam in 1989.) Currently pic74

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    Looking for a P7, k14 or f12 1inch

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    Still my favorite Brodie.
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    Still my favorite Brodie.
    Thanks tductape.

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    The Croll project. long story short; I had a raw frame that I brought to Erik Noren of Peacock Groove who used to work at Croll. He made a fork and LD stem for it and had it painted in Croll inspired tiger stripes (Erik couldn't resist and painted up a pair of rims too). I stopped by the shop today to drop off some parts and had to take an in progress pic. I'll post a more detailed description later.
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    Quote Originally Posted by hegstad1 View Post
    The Croll project. long story short; I had a raw frame that I brought to Erik Noren of Peacock Groove who used to work at Croll. He made a fork and LD stem for it and had it painted in Croll inspired tiger stripes (Erik couldn't resist and painted up a pair of rims too). I stopped by the shop today to drop off some parts and had to take an in progress pic. I'll post a more detailed description later.

    That's so obnoxious that I like it.

    More detail pics of the stem if you have em!
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    Yeah, in person it is really crazy. It's got some sparkle/flake in the paint that make it look like some funky pimp-mobile. The rims almost push it over the top for me. We'll see how the final build looks. I'll get some better pics of the stem next time I'm in the shop.

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    Quote Originally Posted by newfangled View Post
    ^ I've definitely got the shorter 90mm one. But it added 1-1/2" of height when my 29er probably needed half that.

    Basically, it's pretty dramatic. But I'm sure I'll find it handy when the revamped Luxy bar comes out and I'm trying to fit it to an old 26er.
    Do you still have that stem? Want to sell it? PM me if interested, I'm local.

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    I had crashed on this bike back in February. Messed up my back for a while.

    Anyways, the back is healing and I feel well enough to try the drop bar conversion again. This time, I converted it to a full rigid and made it into a single speed.

    IMG_0346 by tk_1971, on Flickr

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    The single consolidated official drop bar thread-rocky.jpg

    My 1st Drop bar mtb build, having troubles with bar height / placement. Brand new un-cut fork, still doesn't feel quite right and looks ridiculous. Grips to seat also 2" further away than my usual. Fork is 406mm a-c, so increasing this is an option, although forks with a-c 410-425 not easy to find. Surly Troll fork would look great, but >450mm way over intended for this frame. Any suggestions?

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    Pretty sure you should be able to find a kona project 2 fork in that length.

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    The more I think about it, if I raise the a-c of the fork, the bottom bracket will rise some with saddle height and defeat my purpose. I have 2 more frames with shorter top tubes, I am going to throw some parts over and see how it looks.

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    The single consolidated official drop bar thread-elmardirtdrops.jpg

    Salsa El Mariachi with On-One Midge's from earlier this fall.

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    Velo Orange working on a dirt drop stem.

    The Velo ORANGE Blog: Long Tall Stem Prototypes
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    Very cool. I never understood why On One or Salsa didn't do something similar to match with their bars.

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    They're hard to make.

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    ^ no doubt. And I guess salsa actually did make their high-rise stems for awhile, but I think they'd phased them out a few years before they introduced the woodchipper? More for On One then, it's always surprised me that they don't carry anyone else's 35+deg stems on their site (bontrager, ergotec, etc), instead forcing people to hunt around. It's a good move by VO.

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    Quote Originally Posted by burritoguru View Post
    Not just any mountain bike, Dirt Drop Mountain Bike.


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    Anyone knows where i can get hold of this picture in high-res? Or as a poster?

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    How do I purchase or request rights to reprint photos?

    If you are requesting to purchase a photo for personal use or reprinting a photo in another publication, please contact our photo reprints specialist at licensing@sfchronicle.com.
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    Quote Originally Posted by burritoguru View Post
    Velo Orange working on a dirt drop stem.

    The Velo ORANGE Blog: Long Tall Stem Prototypes
    That is exactly what bikes like a Surly CC need. The short headtube makes it tough to get the bars up without looking ridiculous. Good move VO.
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    Quote Originally Posted by girlonbike View Post
    They're hard to make.
    They are especially for the small one man shops. VO is probably going to have jigs made up and produce them in quantity which will hold the price down. Let's see if they can make some thumb shifter mounts like the old WTB versions at a reasonable price.
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    VO shifter mounts would be so cool. That's another thing that I'm surprised no one sells.

    I never posted this in this thread, but stretching out the clamp on a cheapo Sunrace shifter works pretty well, but it's a little closer to the bar than the standoff clamps would be.

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    It's been a little bit, but I found time to ride my 90's Rockhopper conversion just this last week. Took it fast and wreckless going down.

    Untitled by tk_1971, on Flickr

    With the small/stiff frame and rigid fork, I really took a beating on it. Lots of fun on an otherwise very dull trail.

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    Quote Originally Posted by burritoguru View Post
    Velo Orange working on a dirt drop stem.

    The Velo ORANGE Blog: Long Tall Stem Prototypes
    I just emailed them. They are going to be importing them.
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    The single consolidated official drop bar thread-dirtdrop1.jpgThe single consolidated official drop bar thread-dirtdrop2.jpg

    3 attempts and I think I finally got something. Hard to size right with long legs and short torso. I had to pony up on the $$ and get the Nitto mt-10 long quill stem. I used my smallest/shortest frame, old bridgestone mb-4.

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