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    Quote Originally Posted by Aemmer View Post
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    What are you putting together?
    Converting the Gecko. Had been thinking about it for a while, just finally got around to getting the parts together.
    Need: McMahon brake for roller cam mounts, Mountain Goat fork.

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    Command Shifters

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    3. Suntour command shifters. Harder to find and a little more spendy. How well do they work with dirt drops?
    My local shop has probably 5 sets of these if you want to go that route.
    They're interesting. I never really liked them on drops but they're fun on the end of bullhorn bars or TT aero bars.
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    Came across this yesterday. Clockwork Bikes is making "LD" style stems. I guess they are going for about $250.00 each, and there are options for face plate or not. See a Flickr pic of one here: http://www.flickr.com/photos/2887955...in/photostream

    Looks perfect for a retro-fit.
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    Hey GT,

    we've talked about it a couple times in here. Tried to get him to do a 1" headtube one but no luck, I believe. The thread was locked.

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    I also inquired about him doing a 1" girth LD and he suggested using a shim.
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    He's listening though. I'm sure if he received enough commitments he would make a run.
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    Quote Originally Posted by girlonbike View Post
    Hey GT,

    we've talked about it a couple times in here. Tried to get him to do a 1" headtube one but no luck, I believe. The thread was locked.
    Sorry. Didn't realize that.

    I don't see a problem using a shim, but I understand not everyone will see that as being "proper". That's cool.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Guitar Ted View Post
    Sorry. Didn't realize that.

    I don't see a problem using a shim, but I understand not everyone will see that as being "proper". That's cool.
    Actually, I don't mind the shim at all. My 1" uses a shim. I don't really like the bolt on top and also the reach is a little long for me.

    Thanks for the heads up though. I didn't mean to imply that it wasn't a good lead on an altogether too rare part.

    Edit: he said he could make it without the hole in the framebuilding LD stem thread. That's great!
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    while on the subject, does anyone know a quill stem for a 1 1/8 steerer with 26mm bar clamp? Looking at the Nitto dirt drops but not shure if the quill diameter works, any other options?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stylus View Post
    while on the subject, does anyone know a quill stem for a 1 1/8 steerer with 26mm bar clamp? Looking at the Nitto dirt drops but not shure if the quill diameter works, any other options?
    I've never seen Dirt Drop stems in anything but 1"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stylus View Post
    while on the subject, does anyone know a quill stem for a 1 1/8 steerer with 26mm bar clamp? Looking at the Nitto dirt drops but not shure if the quill diameter works, any other options?
    Something like this: http://www.sjscycles.co.uk/images/pr...s-img20442.jpg

    Plus this: http://www.flickr.com/photos/2887955...in/photostream

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    Quote Originally Posted by Clockwork Bikes View Post
    Hard to tell from the photo, but it looks like the "cap" on that Profile adapter is just part of the single machined piece?... and wouldn't allow your LD to slide over the top of it. Perhaps you should look at the Kalloy's or, better still, the Nitto's:

    http://www.benscycle.net/index.php?m...ducts_id=10278
    http://www.benscycle.net/index.php?m...ducts_id=10277
    http://www.benscycle.net/index.php?m...oducts_id=7559
    http://www.benscycle.net/index.php?m...oducts_id=7454

    But, while we've got you here, a few questions on your new stem:
    - Custom sizes? If not, what's the stock rise/reach?
    - Can a customer specify bar clamp size or would you just tell them to shim down from the presumably 31.8mm?
    - Would you leave off the hole/setup for the Aheadset bolt if the customer was going to use it with one of these adapters?
    - What's the radius of the bend you're using?

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    Quote Originally Posted by halaburt View Post
    Hard to tell from the photo, but it looks like the "cap" on that Profile adapter is just part of the single machined piece?... and wouldn't allow your LD to slide over the top of it. Perhaps you should look at the Kalloy's or, better still, the Nitto's:

    http://www.benscycle.net/index.php?m...ducts_id=10278
    http://www.benscycle.net/index.php?m...ducts_id=10277
    http://www.benscycle.net/index.php?m...oducts_id=7559
    http://www.benscycle.net/index.php?m...oducts_id=7454

    But, while we've got you here, a few questions on your new stem:
    - Custom sizes? If not, what's the stock rise/reach?
    - Can a customer specify bar clamp size or would you just tell them to shim down from the presumably 31.8mm?
    - Would you leave off the hole/setup for the Aheadset bolt if the customer was going to use it with one of these adapters?
    - What's the radius of the bend you're using?
    1. All are custom reach and rise. Min. 120 rise for average reaches.
    2. Bar clamps can be 25.4, 26.0, or 31.8 and you may choose 1 or 2-bolt clamp.
    3. Compression bolt hole may be omitted.
    4. It was bent with a 3" c.l.r. tool but it's actually a little more.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stylus View Post
    while on the subject, does anyone know a quill stem for a 1 1/8 steerer with 26mm bar clamp? Looking at the Nitto dirt drops but not shure if the quill diameter works, any other options?

    They aren't as tall as a dirt drop, but the nitto mt-11 is the best looking mtb stem ever, in my opinion. And they're only available in 1 1/8" quill. Also available from Ben's, in various extensions:

    http://www.benscycle.net/index.php?m...ducts_id=12318
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    Quote Originally Posted by Clockwork Bikes View Post
    1. All are custom reach and rise. Min. 120 rise for average reaches.
    2. Bar clamps can be 25.4, 26.0, or 31.8 and you may choose 1 or 2-bolt clamp.
    3. Compression bolt hole may be omitted.
    4. It was bent with a 3" c.l.r. tool but it's actually a little more.

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    I just finished a review of the RM-013 and the RM-014 at biketouringnews dot com. You might have to search for dirt drop if the post is no longer sticky (can't put a link here)

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    Looks like the guys across the pond have a similar thread going.

    retrobike :: View topic - the unofficially cool MTB drop bar thread
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    Quote Originally Posted by CS2 View Post
    Looks like the guys across the pond have a similar thread going.

    retrobike :: View topic - the unofficially cool MTB drop bar thread
    some there are against drop bars based on aesthethic issues.. well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by colker1 View Post
    some there are against drop bars based on aesthethic issues.. well.
    Funny, I like drops more for the way they look than perform.
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    I like off road drops for the way they look AND the way they perform!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rumpfy View Post
    I like off road drops for the way they look AND the way they perform!
    OR D bars gives a very diff feeling from the bike. I like them a lot. Handling and comfort are great.

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    Quote Originally Posted by colker1 View Post
    OR D bars gives a very diff feeling from the bike. I like them a lot. Handling and comfort are great.
    Ya. Gets you a bit deeper into the bike. I really feel connected when I'm riding drops, though I find you need to put in a bit more effort to get the front end up if you're spending a lot of time with both wheels off the ground.
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    I forgot about this thread. Here's my latest build, seen elsewhere but it belongs here too.

    '96ish Phoenix with WTB RM-2 bars (and yeah I know I need to lower the levers)




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    Quote Originally Posted by Rumpfy View Post
    Ya. Gets you a bit deeper into the bike. I really feel connected when I'm riding drops, though I find you need to put in a bit more effort to get the front end up if you're spending a lot of time with both wheels off the ground.

    same here: lifting the front wheel requires attention. everything else is easier on drop bars.

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    Quote Originally Posted by -Anomie- View Post
    I forgot about this thread. Here's my latest build, seen elsewhere but it belongs here too.

    '96ish Phoenix with WTB RM-2 bars (and yeah I know I need to lower the levers)



    Beautiful bike. I need a B52 like yours....

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    I got lucky on that, I just happened to walk into Pacific Coast Cycles right after Chuck got that B-52 from another customer. He offered, I bought without even thinking about it, since that's the only one I've ever found for sale. I'll let you know if he gets another one, PCC is kind of a magnet for stuff like that.

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    Great thread.

    As soon as I post 6 more times I can show you my 88 Fisher Procaliber SS with drops.

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    OK, now I can post it. 88 Fisher Procaliber now SS path and trail bomber.






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    Quote Originally Posted by RFC View Post
    OK, now I can post it. 88 Fisher Procaliber now SS path and trail bomber.

    Absolutely beautiful bike. Man, that is a long stem though. How big is it?
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    Quote Originally Posted by CS2 View Post
    Absolutely beautiful bike. Man, that is a long stem though. How big is it?
    Yes, it is one damn long stem -- 150mm

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    Drop bar MB-1

    After a year and a half of tinkering and trying different configurations, I finally got this build the way I like it. Here are a couple of drop bar-related shots. I'll try to post more photos in the Official Bidgestone Thread - just as soon as I can find it (hint, hint...)

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    - 1993 Bridgestone MB-1 frame, 52cm.
    - Nitto Dirt Drop stem (designed by Grant Peterson, specifically for the '87 MB-1), and...
    - NOS 3TTT WB-1 dirt drop bars.
    - Suntour Command Shifters, to go with...
    - Full XC-pro drivetrain + hubs, bottom bracket and headset.
    - Dia Compe 287-Vs were the most comfortable non-plastic levers I could find, so...
    - Shimano XT V-brakes (kind of out of place, but worked with the levers).
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    Quote Originally Posted by iamkeith View Post
    After a year and a half of tinkering and trying different configurations, I finally got this build the way I like it. Here are a couple of drop bar-related shots. I'll try to post more photos in the Official Bidgestone Thread - just as soon as I can find it (hint, hint...)

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    - 1993 Bridgestone MB-1 frame, 52cm.
    - Nitto Dirt Drop stem (designed by Grant Peterson, specifically for the '87 MB-1), and...
    - NOS 3TTT WB-1 dirt drop bars.
    - Suntour Command Shifters, to go with...
    - Full XC-pro drivetrain + hubs, bottom bracket and headset.
    - Dia Compe 287-Vs were the most comfortable non-plastic levers I could find, so...
    - Shimano XT V-brakes (kind of out of place, but worked with the levers).
    it needs canti brakes!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by colker1 View Post
    it needs canti brakes!!
    I know, I know. I'm sensitive about that fact, too, which is why I tried to rationalize my decision in the description. I was hoping the fact that they're the correct finish would make the V-brakes less obvious - but no such luck, I guess. It's amazing how hard it is to find comfortable non-V brake levers that aren't plastic ("resin"). I'd be grateful for any suggestions.

    I'm hoarding a set of the factory correct Dia Compe 987 brakes for when I figure it out. The suntour headset has a taller stack-height than the original, so I'm going to need to figure out something for a hanger, too...

    In the meantime, I plan to ride the bike hard, so brakes is brakes in some ways...

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    Quote Originally Posted by iamkeith View Post
    It's amazing how hard it is to find comfortable non-V brake levers that aren't plastic ("resin"). I'd be grateful for any suggestions.


    Almost all road levers are non-V. There's dozens of choices.
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    I really like the 987s i have been using for like 17yrs.. Grab a pair of cane creek drop bar levers (non V). If you can't find vintage stuff, shimano, campy, mavic, modolo, go to rivbike.com and chose from whatever they have there. Or velo orange.
    You've got a very nice bike. Those V brakes there are just wrong.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shayne View Post


    Almost all road levers are non-V. There's dozens of choices.
    I guess I should clarify:

    Levers that :

    1. Look appropriate for a vintage build - ie: silver levers and, did I mention, non-plastic bodies? (pretty much rules out anything current from Tektro/Cane Creek, Shimano, or Sram.) But maybe what I'm hearing is that v-brakes stick out worse than modern-shaped, plastic levers...

    2. Have big enough hoods to comfortably hold and use as an alternate hand position, for someone with man-hands. (pretty much rules out anything more than 15 years old and, therefore, most non-aero levers.) I know this isn't the way dirt-drop setups were historically used, but it's hard to give this option up once you get used to it. Just reduces fatigue, and is nice for climbing...

    3. Have a smooth, quality feel to the action, and a graceful, ergonomic shape to the levers. (pretty much rules out things like the other still-available lower-end dia compes - at least I can find) I know this is subjective though...

    You may be right, but I honestly can't find something I like. Any specific suggestions? I'd love a set of vintage Aero Gran Compes, but they're hard to come by. This is the kind of nit-picky, self-imposed challenge that's caused me to take a year and a half to put this thing together in the first place.
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    Quote Originally Posted by colker1 View Post
    I really like the 987s i have been using for like 17yrs.. Grab a pair of cane creek drop bar levers (non V). If you can't find vintage stuff, shimano, campy, mavic, modolo, go to rivbike.com and chose from whatever they have there. Or velo orange.
    You've got a very nice bike. Those V brakes there are just wrong.
    Actually, check this out: I just posted pictures of another build (I've been busy this Fall) on another thread in another forum, where I did use some of the new Tektro (TRP) levers that I got from Riv., of all places. It's sort of VRC and drop-bar related, but I didn't try as hard to stay aestheticallly/period-correct I just built it with parts I that wanted and/or that I had on hand. Old Ibis. But DAMN, those TRP levers are comfortable - funny looking or not!!!!

    link to post

    This is what I like about this VRC forum: No shortage of people willing to share first impressions and good opinions! I guess I have my directive for the MB-1....
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    nice mb-1.
    I'm planning a very similar conversion with my '91 mb-1. but I'll be using an on one midge bar, modern road bike brake levers and ultegra 8speed barcons.

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    That MB1 is amazing. It affects me in a way that I'm not even comfortable with. In fact, I have some dirt drops just sitting around and you've just inspired me to put them on something!

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    I may be the only one...but I like the V brakes. I'll try to take a close up of the cable hanger used to solve your problem if you go to canti brakes...It will mount in the front fork crown hole.

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    Hange it like this...[IMGhttps://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-Zm1PDeVYvwI/Tig7v_J8VQI/AAAAAAAAJcA/NOrpw1bhK80/s400/HPIM2578.JPG[/IMG]

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    those tires are crap and the front brake isn't working as i would like it to, but otherwise it's just magnificent.

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    Sorry for the road tires but it's road season for me now... coming spring it will get it's proper tires again!

    The frame and fork are Klein Pinnacle from '88 or '89 It came with a beat-up non Klein paintjob so i was comfortable in having it stripped to raw aluminium.
    The brakes are a combination of IRD Switchback and Rotary and it also has an IRD seatpost. The rest is Deore XT with a Nitto dirtdrop stem. I went with STI's because barcons suck and WTB / DKG brackets are impossible to find. It's a rider so ergonomics are all important!



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    Nice set up. I know its a winter rider right now...but skin wall knobbies and a Turbo or Ti Flite!

    I ran STI's on my first drop bar bike too. Works great.
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    Nice setup!

    Its probably the photo but something about that fork doesn't look right
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    The forks are original Spinners for Klein and yes compared to the large frame and it's fat tubes they look very thin!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Allard View Post
    The frame and fork are Klein Pinnacle from '88 or '89 It came with a beat-up non Klein paintjob so i was comfortable in having it stripped to raw aluminium.
    No paint looks nice! A good friend of mine bought a Klein in about '87, couldn't stomach their hideous paint jobs, and talked them into giving it to him un-painted. So it was actually a "factory option" of sorts. Here's a cropped shot of that bike that I found recently, from our first bike trip to Moab circa '88. I seem to recall being able to see grade markings on the tubing - from ALCOA perhaps? Kind of off-topic, but thought you'd be interested...

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    Anyone make anything close to these today? The closest I could find was the Kelly Take Off
    Kelly Bike Company

    There is an interesting lever coming out for the cyclocross gang Retroshift.
    Thread:
    http://forums.roadbikereview.com/com...ft-264420.html

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    retroshift | Mud Proof Shifting. Designed by Goats!

    Youtube video, watch it. The video explains it well.
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    I decided to throw some dirt drops on my Bontrager and it really sucked! The problem was I had convinced myself I would hate them, so when I ended up loving them I got all mixed up inside. It climbs like a spider monkey, cruises like a crown victoria and descends like a flying squirrel. Now, I'm left to pick up the pieces and decide how to rebuild the bike around them! The only issues I had were the vintage gran-compe levers, which look great but the cables were in the way and I need more meat to grab onto, so I think I'll use some modern Cane Creek's like rigidftw. Also, that heinous rastafied cinelli world champion tape needs to go!
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    If you ran more housing, they don't get in the way. Glad you liked it.
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