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    Nowhereman, What kind of stem is that? Can't read it.
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    It looks a little like the "Dimensions" riser stem I got for cheap from my LBS. It's not a bad stem either. Mine was in the 160g range IIRC.

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    Yes, it's a Dimension stem. Though it's cheap but it's surprisingly well built and finished.
    I dont know about the longevity, time will tell.

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    Hi, This is my first or second post on this forum, but I have been reading it for years and it has been great inspiration. thank you all. Here is my MB-1 1989.



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    Nice MB-1! .....might be the angle but your front fork looks kind of bent?
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    Thanks! I did not notice but it does look weird in the photo. I just check and the fork seems straight. Will do more investigation.
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    [QUOTE=Machianera]Hi, This is my first or second post on this forum, but I have been reading it for years and it has been great inspiration. thank you all. Here is my MB-1 1989 last week at Cunningham Park in nyc.

    That looks great. Did you get an answer to your drop bar swap?
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    It's a Koski fork and it sure looks to be bent to me.

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    Yes the fork is bent. Not as much as the photo may suggest, but it is. Never occurred to me since the bike handles fine no hands. EDIT I just scored the same fork on CL and about to mount it!

    YETIFIED: no answer on drop bar trade.
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    is there a bridgestone gallery on here yet?

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    Might as well add my Bontrager with RM-3 Ibis bend bars to the thread, although it no longer has drop bars on it. I couldn't get them high enough and never liked the way it looked or rode, so I switched back to flat bars. Personally, I think drop bars only look good on sloping tube frames, probably because the first MTB's I remember with drops were Cunninghams, JP's mainly. In any case:


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    Rm-2

    the bars on the rock lobster are the wtb-logo only variety 25.4 clamp.

    the surly has the specialized rm-2 / wtb logo variety 26.0 clamp. the surly is also equipped with a set of old wtb thumbshifter mounts.

    both feature velox plugs. natch.
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    CX is kind of offroad too, I guess:





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    Quote Originally Posted by nowhereman
    Yes, it's a Dimension stem. Though it's cheap but it's surprisingly well built and finished.
    I dont know about the longevity, time will tell.
    Surprisingly....cheap lol

    Just went to their web site.

    http://www.dimensionbikeproducts.com/cpsc.html
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    Quote Originally Posted by modifier
    "There has been one report of a handlebar stem breaking that resulted in minor abrasions and bruises to the rider"

    That's it? I think you frighten too easy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by trailville
    "There has been one report of a handlebar stem breaking that resulted in minor abrasions and bruises to the rider"

    That's it? I think you frighten too easy.

    LOL I think that I've had similar injuries on nearly every bike that I've ever owned.
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    Quote Originally Posted by trailville
    "There has been one report of a handlebar stem breaking that resulted in minor abrasions and bruises to the rider"

    That's it? I think you frighten too easy.
    Oh I guess I read it wrong. I thought they were recalling 18,000 stems.
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    add one.
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    Quote Originally Posted by girlonbike
    add one.
    Stubby LD there G. You have some nice Dirt drop setups. I think it was a picture of your Salsa and ER's Otis together that first got me motivated to try putting together my own Dirt Drop ride. Made it all that much better when I recently got to see your Salsa at Keyesville.
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    Quote Originally Posted by girlonbike
    add one.
    classy. i just love those old ibis.

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    Wow, four great looking bikes. Lots of rollercams there Aemmer, I love it!

    Looking through the pages, the LD stems make DD builds look 'right' every time. Other stems certainly get the job done, but to my noobish eye, none quite pull it off with the same grace.
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    Quote Originally Posted by girlonbike
    add one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shogun700
    Wow, four great looking bikes. Lots of rollercams there Aemmer, I love it!

    Looking through the pages, the LD stems make DD builds look 'right' every time. Other stems certainly get the job done, but to my noobish eye, none quite pull it off with the same grace.

    You've got a great noobish eye then.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rumpfy
    You've got a great noobish eye then.
    Thanks. It creates a problem when what looks right is pretty much unavailable. Every time I look a these stems I start to wonder what it would take to build one-I assume it's not as straightforward as it looks. I work in a shop that makes all kinds of things-engines, carburetors, 2-stroke exhaust systems...and tube chassis made with small diameter chromoly. We can bend, cut and weld pretty much anything, but unfortunately (for this anyway) my job is in the horsepower department, and I don't weld. It's one thing to get one of my coworkers to weld something for me, but another thing entirely to ask them to help me create something essentially from scratch. Plus, copying someone else's idea sucks.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aemmer
    Factory Dirt Drop circa 1987.

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    Does anyone ave any tips to share about where to order good drop bar stems these days?

    I know there are lots of places to get Nitto DirtDrop & Periscopa quill models. Ebay is a pain in the pants for good vintage ones. And most of the builders who've made the nicer work in this thread that are built in this decade are now too busy for stems without an accompanying frame order.

    The "modern" stem offerings are upsetting. Time was when you could get a huge variety of reach and rise options at most bike shops. These days everything is 0deg or 5deg, and you're expected to run the thing up a flagpole made of spacers if you want your bars higher. (Or put one of those adjustable monstrosities on.) There are more off-roadable bars available than ever before, but without a fork with a 3 foot A-to-C pushing your front end up in the air there are no stems to run them.

    So ... who's the "new old-Salsa" of stem building?
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    These look worthwhile, if you can find one:

    http://www.bti-usa.com/voodoo/bicycles/nakisistem

    I've been using the Profile "Boa" stems on several of my bikes where I need to get the bars way up there. They're ugly, fairly heavy, and really inexpensive. Oh, well! Better than adjustables, anyway.

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    That's got the reach/rise, but the dumb handlebar size. (At least it's bigger so it could be shimmed.)

    Can it be run on a 1" steerer with a shim, or is the clamp too funky? I regularly run 1-1/8" stems on 1" steers with shims to adapt, but I'll only do so if the binder arrangement is a "normal" pinch that generates enough clamping force. There's a lot going on there with that Voodoo ... anyone run one on a 1" steerer?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jak0zilla
    Does anyone ave any tips to share about where to order good drop bar stems these days?

    I know there are lots of places to get Nitto DirtDrop & Periscopa quill models. Ebay is a pain in the pants for good vintage ones. And most of the builders who've made the nicer work in this thread that are built in this decade are now too busy for stems without an accompanying frame order.

    The "modern" stem offerings are upsetting. Time was when you could get a huge variety of reach and rise options at most bike shops. These days everything is 0deg or 5deg, and you're expected to run the thing up a flagpole made of spacers if you want your bars higher. (Or put one of those adjustable monstrosities on.) There are more off-roadable bars available than ever before, but without a fork with a 3 foot A-to-C pushing your front end up in the air there are no stems to run them.

    So ... who's the "new old-Salsa" of stem building?

    The only production stem <45deg is the Nakisi. opps... too late.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jak0zilla
    Does anyone ave any tips to share about where to order good drop bar stems these days?

    I know there are lots of places to get Nitto DirtDrop & Periscopa quill models. Ebay is a pain in the pants for good vintage ones. And most of the builders who've made the nicer work in this thread that are built in this decade are now too busy for stems without an accompanying frame order.

    The "modern" stem offerings are upsetting. Time was when you could get a huge variety of reach and rise options at most bike shops. These days everything is 0deg or 5deg, and you're expected to run the thing up a flagpole made of spacers if you want your bars higher. (Or put one of those adjustable monstrosities on.) There are more off-roadable bars available than ever before, but without a fork with a 3 foot A-to-C pushing your front end up in the air there are no stems to run them.

    So ... who's the "new old-Salsa" of stem building?

    The only production stem <45deg is the Nakisi...

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    Quote Originally Posted by ong
    These look worthwhile, if you can find one:

    http://www.bti-usa.com/voodoo/bicycles/nakisistem

    I've been using the Profile "Boa" stems on several of my bikes where I need to get the bars way up there. They're ugly, fairly heavy, and really inexpensive. Oh, well! Better than adjustables, anyway.
    I just got one of the VooDoo stems recently from Bikeman. As the photo indicates it comes without the stem bolt or the pinch bolt. Kind of strange. It also took about a month to get to me. Fortunately I wasn't in a hurry.

    Also Profile Design makes a quill style to clamp style stem adapter in both 1" to 1 1/8" and 1 1/8" straight. If you take the top cap and machine it down to 1 1/8th it works as a stub for the above stem. Or leave the cap on and use it to mount modern stems to 1" threaded steertubes.
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    suntour shifter options for drop bars

    I have a bike that I have been slowly converting to drop bars. I have the stem/bar/brake lever position pretty much dialed, but I was hoping for input from anyone with experience pros or cons. The drivetrain is full 7sp XC Pro. Options:

    1. Barons. Probably the cheapest and easiest to find, but I'd rather have the shifters closer to the brake levers.

    2. Kelly Takeoff with road shifters. Not too expensive and fairly easy to source, but I've heard mixed reviews relating to positioning and I couldn't find anyone that had used them on dirt drop bars.

    3. Suntour command shifters. Harder to find and a little more spendy. How well do they work with dirt drops?

    4. Is there any way to mount Suntour thumbs to a WTB mount, or are they Shimano specific?
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    I'd go barcon.

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    Quote Originally Posted by muddybuddy View Post
    I have a bike that I have been slowly converting to drop bars. I have the stem/bar/brake lever position pretty much dialed, but I was hoping for input from anyone with experience pros or cons. The drivetrain is full 7sp XC Pro. Options:

    1. Barons. Probably the cheapest and easiest to find, but I'd rather have the shifters closer to the brake levers.

    2. Kelly Takeoff with road shifters. Not too expensive and fairly easy to source, but I've heard mixed reviews relating to positioning and I couldn't find anyone that had used them on dirt drop bars.

    3. Suntour command shifters. Harder to find and a little more spendy. How well do they work with dirt drops?

    4. Is there any way to mount Suntour thumbs to a WTB mount, or are they Shimano specific?
    they're Shimano specific. Suntour's indexed barcons would be cool.

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    Quote Originally Posted by singletracktourist View Post
    they're Shimano specific. Suntour's indexed barcons would be cool.
    I have a Suntour set.

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    Maybe the Velo Orange/ Rivendell friction barcon set up.

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    Seeing that the WTB's and DKG's are darn near impossible to find unless you're "in the loop", the Kelly's are questionable, DC is not mass producing his, the Suntour Commands are just plain weird and bar ends are, well, barends. What are the options? It would seem like such a simple item to produce. Shimano and Suntour compatible please.
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    Barcons aren't that bad. The Suntour ones are really rugged...unless you round the bolts cuz you forget to go lefty tighty and righty loosey.

    As for the WTB/DKG mounts, I don't think you exactly have to be in the loop. You either have to shell out some real dough like the ones that sold on ebay tonight or you have to luck into them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by girlonbike View Post
    Barcons aren't that bad. The Suntour ones are really rugged...unless you round the bolts cuz you forget to go lefty tighty and righty loosey on one side.
    Don't get me wrong G. I love Barcons and own many sets but I want to be one of the cool kids like you.

    BTW. I have one stripped bolt also.
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    I'm not one of the cool kids! I lucked out location wise. Come out for a visit Jeff, I'll buy you a beer!

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    Holding your own in this testosterone laden soup called the VRC forum gives you double cool points. I'll be out visiting family in August and take you up on that beer. Beer and bikes.
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    There was a set of WTB's on the bay a couple of weeks ago with a $275 BIN. They did not sell.
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    Quote Originally Posted by muddybuddy View Post
    2. Kelly Takeoff with road shifters. Not too expensive and fairly easy to source, but I've heard mixed reviews relating to positioning and I couldn't find anyone that had used them on dirt drop bars.
    I've run the Kelly's on my Phoenix since new in '98 and I'd say I'm generally happy. My setup is with 8sp Shimano downtube shifters.

    Positives:
    - Works with any recent generation of Shimano downtube OR BARCON shifters -- 8, 9 or 10sp. If I was to re-do this, I'd probalby try try the Barcons as their larger size and rubber hoods might be more finger-friendly.
    - MUCH more inexpensive/available than the various WTB and DKG variants.

    Negatives:
    - Mounting position of the shifter onto the mount doesn't have the adjustability of the WTB/DKG options.
    - Shifter is a little further from the bar than WTB/DKG and probably lends itself more to someone with large hands and/or long fingers.
    - Not really "vintage correct" on anything older than '97 or so.


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    Quote Originally Posted by bushpig View Post
    I have a Suntour set.
    pics please.

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    I like barcons best but depends on the bars you use.
    If they are very flared like the old wtb, the wtb mounts or kelly may be better.
    If the bars have less flare and shorter ends then I would use barcons.

    I like the old metal suntour w ratcheting, they work very well. Dont like shimano, silver etc.. bc theway they look
    The old campagnolo bar ends shift the best and are more precise.

    But none of the above are index!

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    Suntour are indexing.
    Somec is like the digital Zunow
    And this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JD5h3y0a9AU

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    The bars I'm using are the WTB/Specialized RM2. I don't have a lot of experience for comparison, but they seem to have quite a bit of flair.

    Shifters will be indexed, regardless of location.
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    should have sold a child and bought those shifter mounts 2 nights ago! Barcons do great until you luck into a dkg/wtb set. truusttt meeeee

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    Muddy,
    What are you putting together?
    Seek: Koski Trailmaster. Breezer Series 2 or 3. Cunningham Racer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by girlonbike View Post
    should have sold a child and bought those shifter mounts 2 nights ago! Barcons do great until you luck into a dkg/wtb set. truusttt meeeee
    Was watching those. Like everyone else here was I'm sure. But the cheap bastard in me wouldn't let me pay for them. Plus there's the Suntour aspect complicating things.
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