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    Retro Dude,

    JT was kind of the exception, I think, to typical bar setup. He wanted his mtn and road bike to have identical setup so he could comfortable switch from one to the other throughout the season. I think for anybody who wants to try drops offroad but hasn't yet, the majority of the examples in the thread so far are a better guide than Tomac's setup. Besides, I think his setup was closer to the bridgestone than to yours.
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    www.retrobike.co.uk/?p=122

    There's a nice shot of Tomac's C26 at the link above. More aggressive than the typical set up, but Tomac is Tomac!
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    Gr. Allard

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    IF52,

    Agreed, riding drops set up for road for the first time off-road is not for the faint of heart. I get some looks as I pass people in tight twisty single track.

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    Drop Bars+Their History in Mt Bike Lore

    Pretty much all our riding in the heady days before bikes w slashes through them decorated our dirt paths here in the S Bay region were dominated by the "Goat Horn" bars....

    http://www.bayareabikehub.com/rides/...ange_slide.htm

    Quote Originally Posted by Retro Dude
    IF52,

    Agreed, riding drops set up for road for the first time off-road is not for the faint of heart. I get some looks as I pass people in tight twisty single track.

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    Nothing fancy, but it does its job very well. Those are studded tires under the coating of snow.

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    Allard- what frame is that? Love the brakes.
    These enormously tall stems always look scary to me. How do they hold up under long-term off-road abuse? Are they flexy?
    undefined Absolutely must have: Black Machine Tech Zeroflex brake levers (the ones with the rotating leverage adjuster)

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    The frame is a Specialized S-Works steel frame from '93/'94. I had it refinished so any rust would be treated the inside is treated with J.P. Weigles frame saver. The brakes are IRD (Interloc Racing Design) Widget's. I bought them back in the day ('94) directly from Rod after extensive emailing (!). They took for ever to come across the pond and came with catalogs, stickers and a Rocketboy inc T-shirt (Which i do not have anymore, wore it to pieces). They work perfectly and are very strong!
    The stem is a bit flexy, but that makes for a very comfortable ride. The best i have ever had!

    I use the bike around 3 times a week and is fitted now with Tom Slicks 26"x1" for road use. The chainring i use is the 40 teeth one.

    Specs:
    Frame: Specialized S-Works
    Fork: NOS Tange from the beginning of the '90's
    Headset: Specialized steel (!) just beautifull and solid
    Stem: Nitto Dirt Drop
    Handlebar: On One Midge (it just feels so right!) deannodized
    Tape: Cinelli
    Levers: Shimano Sora/Tiagra combo
    Brakes: IRD Widget
    Seatpost: Nitto Specialized S-Works
    Seat: SDG Bell Air titanium
    Seatbolt: Odyssey Svelte titanium
    Cranks: Shimano Deore XT 180mm
    Pedals: Crank Bros Candy SL
    Bracket: Specialized titanium
    Chainring: Surly stainless 34/36/38/40 depending on use
    Chain: Shimano HG-70
    Cassette: Shimano HG-70 8-speed
    Hubset: White Industries Tracker
    Skewers: Salsa titanium
    Rims: Araya RM-14
    Spokes: DT Competition DB
    Nipples: DT brass
    Tires: Panaracer Smoke and Dart

    Gr. Allard

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    27 years of dirt drops

    #7 cunningham, cinellis with superbe levers and suntour barcons. #C 'ham,same setup. both bars were flaired and spread. willits 29"er, salsa bell lap bars with shimano STI and interupters.
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    Quote Originally Posted by den haag
    #7 cunningham, cinellis with superbe levers and suntour barcons. #C 'ham,same setup. both bars were flaired and spread. willits 29"er, salsa bell lap bars with shimano STI and interupters.
    Nice Pictures! How many of those bikes are yours?

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    i still have #7, although i'm restoring it to it's original glory, including the clampon bullmoose bars. they have downtube shifters brazed on top. and the willits was made custom for me, so it'll never go away. did you notice the dettos in the top pic?

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    Quote Originally Posted by den haag
    i still have #7, although i'm restoring it to it's original glory, including the clampon bullmoose bars. they have downtube shifters brazed on top. and the willits was made custom for me, so it'll never go away. did you notice the dettos in the top pic?

    Great action photo....
    The mud buildup on the cams reminds me of some past wet days from around here......
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    Must read for anyone contemplating dirt drops

    Matt Chester's blog.. a piece on dirt drops: Functionality As Inspiration... akin to Nichols' write up on frame materials. There's 3 parts.

    http://5metresofdevelopment.blogspot.com/


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    Here's my '89 Overbury's Pioneer.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Schmitty
    Matt Chester's blog.. a piece on dirt drops: http://5metresofdevelopment.blogspot.com/

    Thanks for that!!

    And for sure, that Overbury's is a super sweet addition to this thread!
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    It's got drops again! My DeKerf Mountain, as set up for cyclocross:





    Bars have to come up a bit, it's about 3/4" lower than my road position which doesn't allow me to use the drops and is a bit uncomfy for rides longer than a cross race.

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    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rBpHbTekMDE

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    Quote Originally Posted by colker1
    i got one..
    Hey Colker1, on post number 24, what handlebar and stem are you using? Thanks.

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    Where do you guys get the 1" threaded stems that large? Best I got was a Nashbar 130mm 70deg rise (I think) and that did not do much.

    And is fleabay a good option for barcon and a cheap shimano rear 9 spd?
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    Quote Originally Posted by safariofthemind
    Hey Colker1, on post number 24, what handlebar and stem are you using? Thanks.
    if my merory is still clear it's an SR stem and a midge handlebar. the sr didn't have enough extension so now it has a nitto dirt drop

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr Pink57
    Where do you guys get the 1" threaded stems that large? Best I got was a Nashbar 130mm 70deg rise (I think) and that did not do much.

    1. There are several lower end bikes from the threaded era that came with stems promoting upright handlebars.

    2. Salsa P10, P7.

    3. WTB, Cunningham, Potts, Ibis etc. LD Style stem.

    4. Nitto Dirt drop

    5. Custom stem builders.

    To keep the price in check and acquire a vintage style stem, I would suggest checking Rivendell's site for a Nitto Dirt Drop, or Bens on the bay. If perfect fit is more important than price or vintage, go custom. If you want to hang out with the really cool people, plan on spending a year or two searching and dropping close to a half a grand for the whatever size is available when it finally comes up LD. I believe someone here on the forum sold a stylin Salsa P10 for a couple of bennies two weeks ago on the bay.

    All the above is just my opinion and fun rambling. In all reality, owning an LD is not an invitation to hang out with the cool people. I am still here with the geeks.

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    Thanks for the info Aemmer and style is not as important to me as a ok fit. I do have an adapter on their now to use a 1 1/8 stem but even a 130mm seems a bit cramped. The bike might be just too small.

    It's a 15.5 I believe and I got it when I was 12 yrs old (NO RUST!)
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    More pics of that Brave please!
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    Nice splatter paint
    Somec is like the digital Zunow
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    Good job! Drop Bar Monstercross

    Excellent thread. The Phelan shots I haven't seen on the net ever (Rock Shox drop bar competition bike)

    Thought I'd add a few modern monstercross, stemming from John Tomac's Yeti drop bar thrasher with the Tioga rear disc to Cunningham's aluminum swan neck drop bar to Singular UK's do-it-all. I remember seeing the Peregrine a few years ago and thought - WOW! - that's how a drop bar monstercross bike is done. It helps that the guy that runs singular knows how to dress up a bike, too! Almost pulled the trigger but had a jones' for aerospace titanium. Below are some shots from the collection I amassed from MTBR forums over the years, the Amaro ti is an instant classic, and the Japanese-boutique lugged steel fixie with front hub brake on 2.3 Exiwolf's got me good. Enjoi.

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    Nice.
    I really like the idea of a monstercross bike. With the popularity of rigid 29ers, I'm surprised so many are going for the suspension corrected mtb 29er frames and fugly suspension corrected rigid forks, rather than a much more elegant monstercross setup.
    Warning: may contain sarcasm and/or crap made up in an attempt to feel important.

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    Quote Originally Posted by floibex
    we have a winner!!

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    A couple more...
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    Matt Chester article on set-up: http://www.63xc.com/mattc/midge.htm

    Also, I need ONE WTB shifter mount. If anybody has ONE, I will trade a complete set of Kelly Take-Offs

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    Nice Kleiningham Joe!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joe Steel
    Matt Chester article on set-up: http://www.63xc.com/mattc/midge.htm
    Newer stuff here:
    http://5metresofdevelopment.blogspot...on-part-i.html

    A modern threadless example:
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    ...nothing beats the ride of a bridgestone

    tires, seat and pedals are subject to frequent change.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rigidftw
    tires, seat and pedals are subject to frequent change.
    Nice.

    This is really inspired me to use V-brake and road bike brake lever.

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    Also sporting one of my favorite saddles!
    Somec is like the digital Zunow
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    Quote Originally Posted by l-s-d
    A modern threadless example:
    Another:



    And my modern threaded example:

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    Quote Originally Posted by jackspade
    Nice.

    This is really inspired me to use V-brake and road bike brake lever.
    thx. but those road bike brake levers are cyclocross v-brake levers. tektro rl520.

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    Not VRC, but another Singular Peregrine.

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    Beautiful. Such a great selection of vintage dirt drops. Never knew about the Bridgestone!
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    Diamondback Overdrive

    Just built this up before Christmas! The bars are Salsa woodchippers, and with barend shifiters, they keep hitting my legs in tight turns. Ghost shifting is not cool!
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    I've always liked Drops, and the Merlin I've recently purchased lent itself to a drop approach. Being its top tube a tad short for me, I thought it would have been a perfect occasion to mount my Specy drop bar using a longer stem. I tried with a Girvin stem (see in the first pic), but couldn't manage to get a properly comfortable position with my hands on the drops.

    The Nitto Moustache bar, similar to the on one Midge, has made a world of difference. The grip on the drops is very comfortable and offers perfect pedaling efficiency, so much that I'm thinking of adopting the bars for my racing 29er too. Magura brakes help a lot, since being able to stop the bike using one finger only is important when you ride on a rigid fork. Just remember that moustache bars require a much shorter stem. To get the best position I had to use a 90 mm stem (I used a 120mm Flexstem with my Specy drops)
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    Just came across this stem. Not vintage, but certainly unique.

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    that would be perfect!

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    Quote Originally Posted by even
    The Nitto Moustache bar, similar to the on one Midge, has made a world of difference. The grip on the drops is very comfortable and offers perfect pedaling efficiency, so much that I'm thinking of adopting the bars for my racing 29er too. Magura brakes help a lot, since being able to stop the bike using one finger only is important when you ride on a rigid fork. Just remember that moustache bars require a much shorter stem. To get the best position I had to use a 90 mm stem (I used a 120mm Flexstem with my Specy drops)
    Did you know the moustache bar was originally developed for use off road? Waaay back when I was a kid I remember Gene Opperpillar (sp?) of Bridgestone (later Bianchi) fame testing the bars at local races. We're talking 1990-1991. He'd eventually win the Chequamegon 40 on a set with a Softride stem for suspension. So yeah...try it. I personally had a set once, didn't work for the riding I did, but could see how they could.

    What do you think of the Magura brakes vs V's? I found a set of the drop levers and canti's a year ago. Building a custom monster cross frame and brakes I've been debating on Cane Creek's, Avid Ultimate's, and Paul's Motolite's.
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    Quote Originally Posted by even
    I've always like Drops, and the Merlin I recently purchased lent itself to a drop approach. Being its top tube a tad short for me, I thought it would have been a perfect occasion to mount my Specy drop bar using a longer stem. I tried with a Girvin stem (see in the first pic), but couldn't manage to get a properly comfortable position with my hands on the drops.

    The Nitto Moustache bar, similar to the on one Midge, has made a world of difference. The grip on the drops is very comfortable and offers perfect pedaling efficiency, so much that I'm thinking of adopting the bars for my racing 29er too. Magura brakes help a lot, since being able to stop the bike using one finger only is important when you ride on a rigid fork. Just remember that moustache bars require a much shorter stem. To get the best position I had to use a 90 mm stem (I used a 120mm Flexstem with my Specy drops)
    why didn't you try the normal dirt drop bar with the 90mm stem. could have done the trick...

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    No, the normal drop .. well ... drops too much... this Nitto is just perfect. I've also found thet the control while downhilling is better, but that might be due to the better position.

    Maguras, in comparison with vees, are much more comfortable, being the effort at the lever near to zero. One finger braking is possible, and this allows better control. Vbrakes would be lighter, tho, and even nicer if you chose a cool pair. I don't know...

    The only thing is that Maguras are so hard to find...

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    Nothing elaborate - in fact down right bottom of the barrel Trek 800 Antelope. Converted to be an on road touring rig and also off road machine to take my son and I camping next summer.


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    Another 'bare-bones' type build, a 1988 Stumpjumper Comp. There is a lot of corrosive salt used here in New England and I didn't want to worry about ruining anything, so I just hung a bunch of old parts on it so I could ride. The stem is deliberately short on reach, I don't like being too far out over the front wheel in the snow. It works great as-is, but I think a setback seatpost would make it 'just right' for my long arms and legs. 2.25's in back are a tight fit....


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    I know, it's not VRC.
    My attempt, Explosif with Woodchipper

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