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    Serotta built Jamis(s)??

    So I was reading this, http://cgi.ebay.com/Vintage-Jamis-Da...3A1%7C294%3A50

    I've never heard this, there's no substantiation, anyone heard that Serotta ever built anything for anyone, beyond say, Fat?

    I know they farmed out to a chosen few, but Jamis? I sell 'em, so that'd be cool with me, but really?

    Just curious
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    they built one of the early Girvin Pro Flex bikes.

    not sure about Jamis. Wouldn't be too surprised.

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    So if moderators start outing stuff, can we?
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    Quote Originally Posted by sfgirlonbike
    So if moderators start outing stuff, can we?
    Good call, I've been busted.

    As long as you don't make fun of it once it's posted as VRC by whomever buys it

    I figured it's being a Jamis made it fairly safe to put out there, also not exactly a bargain, ooooh, Acera X Parallax front wheel
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    Serrota built 7/11 Team bikes labeled as HUFFY(s) also.
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    That doesn't sound right to me, but I'm just going with my gut, not basing it on any facts. A steel Jamis should be Taiwanese or China, or something like it, not built by Serotta. Hopefully someone will chime in with the info.

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    Don't know, but aren't both Jamis and Serrota based in the NYC area?

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    Quote Originally Posted by gm1230126
    Serrota built 7/11 Team bikes labeled as HUFFY(s) also.
    A very serious roadie friend of mine has one of those Huffy bikes. Never thought I would say it, but that Huffy is NICE.

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    I thought I remembered hearing of Teesdale doing some stuff for Jamis, but don't remember anything about Serotta.

    He's got some of the history on his site. But no mention of the Dakar.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JmZ
    I thought I remembered hearing of Teesdale doing some stuff for Jamis,
    I do recall a guy at the shop I used to work at 15 or so years ago, had one built by Teesdale, now that you mention it.

    Fos'l- Jamis is based in New Jersey, so close, but still 6+ hours away, not exactly neighbors....

    GM/Corprin, Yep, been to their facility, seen the Huffys on the wall. Pretty funny really. You'd have thought they'd have learned from their elbow rub with greatness, no?
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    Jamis is in NJ.

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    MCS Thanks for the correction; my only excuse is that I'm extrapolating from CA.

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    Serotta also built titanium road frames for Schwinn a few years back:
    The Schwinn Paramount Titanium
    So why not also steel frames for jamis?

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    Quote Originally Posted by fos'l
    MCS Thanks for the correction; my only excuse is that I'm extrapolating from CA.
    Not intended as a correction. I read your words as open ended. Just adding my bit to the collective knowledge.

    Yeah, CA is way farther than 6 hours.
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    I asked this once before also. I had a 1993 Jamis Dakar fully rigid steel (Ritchey logic) that had Serrota stamped on the chainstays. I was never able to get the full scoop. Best bike I ever had. 19.5" and 20 lbs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dakar97
    I asked this once before also. I had a 1993 Jamis Dakar fully rigid steel (Ritchey logic) that had Serrota stamped on the chainstays. I was never able to get the full scoop. Best bike I ever had. 19.5" and 20 lbs.
    That just might answer the op's question right there.

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    Curious. So the bike had stays with Serotta on them. I'll assume for arguments sake that's the case with our eBay friend too. You don't recall any other info on the bike, stickers, stamps etc? I'll wander around and see if I can find any '93 Jamis info....
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    MCS - did Serotta do dropouts ala Ritchey or PMW? Selling them as frame parts?

    Just a thought, might explain the stamp even if they were not made there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JmZ
    MCS - did Serotta do dropouts

    Later on they did, 3D's and the like. I don't know about earlier. Just checked my Atlanta, and it has pretty average drops on it.

    I just sent a note to Serotta (novel idea!) We'll see what they have to say, and if they'll still cop to it in an age of building primarily $12K carbon/unobtanium lawyers bikes.....
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    I would be intereste to see what you find out from Serrotta. When I purchased my bike new all the Dakars had Serrotta on the chainstays. It was not mentioned in the manual or brochure. (Ithink I still have my '93 catolog?). Either way its a great bike. I was able to cross it over as the geometry made for a comfortable road bike.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dakar97
    I would be intereste to see what you find out from Serrotta. When I purchased my bike new all the Dakars had Serrotta on the chainstays. It was not mentioned in the manual or brochure. (Ithink I still have my '93 catolog?). Either way its a great bike. I was able to cross it over as the geometry made for a comfortable road bike.

    if you could give us some detail shots of the frame we could probably at least determine if it was made in the Orient.

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    And we have an answer, sort of...

    Serotta did indeed build for them. He wasn't forthcoming with info beyond that they did, and that they don't advertise the fact. He did in fact say that they built for a number of others, beyond Fat, Jamis, Huffy. Didn't say who, but there you have it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MendonCycleSmith
    And we have an answer, sort of...

    Serotta did indeed build for them. He wasn't forthcoming with info beyond that they did, and that they don't advertise the fact. He did in fact say that they built for a number of others, beyond Fat, Jamis, Huffy. Didn't say who, but there you have it.

    Nice job. Girvin was another.

    I'm sure he made some personal bikes for pros back in the day too that got sponsors' decals instead of Serotta decals.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fillet-brazed
    I'm sure he made some personal bikes for pros back in the day too that got sponsors' decals instead of Serotta decals.
    Kinda like Dario Pegoretti. Yeah, I'd list pics of my Big Leg Emma (friggin HOT bike), but it'd burn the eyes of too many MTB only enthusiasts
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    Quote Originally Posted by MendonCycleSmith
    Kinda like Dario Pegoretti. Yeah, I'd list pics of my Big Leg Emma (friggin HOT bike), but it'd burn the eyes of too many MTB only enthusiasts
    Bring it on....

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