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    Ritchey P-series, a fan page

    Just discovered that you can't change a title on a thread so I started a new one instead.

    Dedicated to my new found love of the Ritchey p-21 so feel free to chine in, add some pictures or disagree for that matter.

    Here are a couple of pictures to get it started off...
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    Classic lines, a true beauty.
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    It was made for the trails you are riding it: fast, open, flowy singletrack.
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    Fantastic bike. I love them and finally settled down with the perfect (for me) P-23 Team after going through several.

    My P-Series whoring over the years.

    Repainted P-22 Tig


    21" P-22 Team.


    P-23 Tig #444


    P-23 Team 0P17


    I had this P-23 Team for a short while


    I helped rebuild Ruthie M's P-21 Team bike.


    Wife's P-23 Tig #460.


    My P-23 Team #9P10 (I need to take better pics).
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    what size is the orange P, Rumpfy? What size frame and stem? It could make the perfect northern mexico/ desert bike.. there is dry, high altitude and you will climb for miles.
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    Quote Originally Posted by colker1 View Post
    what size is the orange P, Rumpfy? What size frame and stem? It could make the perfect northern mexico/ desert bike.. there is dry, high altitude and you will climb for miles.

    9P10 = 19" (center to top, per Ritchey), P-Series (mostly? used for the fillet brazed team frames), 10th one built.
    For the Team bikes, the early frames like my #10 and #17 (the steel blue one), they used the earlier drop outs found on the Super/Team Comps. At some point they switched to the smaller drop outs as found on the r/w/b frame, which was 0P29.

    Stem is a fillet brazed Force, 150mm.

    You wouldn't need to 'make' it anything, it's already dialed in and fully period correct. Rides great!
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    All those are beautiful, especially the black one!
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    I am partial to the red white and blue team bike but that aqua p-23 is stunning too

    For your viewing pleasure a short clip of the 1994 World Mountain Bike Championships and a pic of winner Henrik Djernis.

    MTB XC World Championships 1994 - YouTube
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    Hi, my P 23


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    Hi Philippe, That one is really sharp and looks to be all original. Did I see this over on Retrobike?

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    yes, it's this one.
    All the parts are from 1990 / 1991
    Phil.

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    and 1992...

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    Great idea to consolidate the P Series!

    Ritchey P22 - Serial # P487 (aka Green Machine!)

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    Benster I know you have better pics...


    Great bike although.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lewisfoto View Post
    Hi Philippe, That one is really sharp and looks to be all original. Did I see this over on Retrobike?
    Is that stem original? All racing P bikes i've seen have a cable stop set up on the headset.

    Edit" also.. the derr. should be a short, medium cage.
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    I owned this. Great bike

    <a href="http://s77.photobucket.com/user/ameybrook/media/Bikes/Ritchey/side_shot.jpg.html" target="_blank"><img src="http://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j52/ameybrook/Bikes/Ritchey/side_shot.jpg" border="0" alt=" photo side_shot.jpg"/></a>


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    Quote Originally Posted by lewisfoto View Post
    Benster I know you have better pics...


    Great bike although.
    Alright you got me... Config has changed somewhat but you get the idea!

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    Team Ritchey first and second place

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    my NOS 1992 P-22 TEAM

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    Quote Originally Posted by v8mercedes View Post
    my NOS 1992 P-22 TEAM
    Beautiful bike! Why is it NOS!?
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    What's the TT length on your 19" C-T bike?
    Threads like this tend to get me in trouble - and everyone knows I need no additional excuses.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CCMDoc View Post
    What's the TT length on your 19" C-T bike?
    Threads like this tend to get me in trouble - and everyone knows I need no additional excuses.
    About 22.25. Catalog says 22.3.
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    Cool bikes but that's the reason I just can't feel the love for Ritchey's. 1 1/4" shorter than what I prefer.
    Zip ties? Not on my bike!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rumpfy View Post
    Beautiful bike! Why is it NOS!?
    it was just a matter of time...

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    P-23 Beam

    Tom's personal rider I acquired a # of yrs back....Full fillet, he had it originally set up for 26' wheels, I had him set it up for 700c wheels.
    b4 you ask-scoff,guffaw, I'm much more adept-comfy at 120psi tyres on these N calif. buff trails after 3 decades of NW muck n goo trails...and being TR did the upgrade,please forgive my changing the OE...
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    Quote Originally Posted by CCMDoc View Post
    What's the TT length on your 19" C-T bike?
    Threads like this tend to get me in trouble - and everyone knows I need no additional excuses.
    Like.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jeff View Post
    Cool bikes but that's the reason I just can't feel the love for Ritchey's. 1 1/4" shorter than what I prefer.
    ride a bigger size or longer stem? Check Djernis or Frisch.. bikes: big.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rumpfy View Post
    Beautiful bike! Why is it NOS!?
    THX


    sadly no time to ride it.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by v8mercedes View Post
    THX
    sadly no time to ride it.....
    I don't buy it. You'd be better of saying "I just bought the bike to look at only". Which is fine, but I don't believe its function of lack of time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by lewisfoto View Post
    it was just a matter of time...
    It's a valid question. I find no excuse for great bikes never being ridden.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jeff View Post
    Cool bikes but that's the reason I just can't feel the love for Ritchey's. 1 1/4" shorter than what I prefer.
    otoh, they have a steep seat angle and a reasonably long front center.
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    Even on a 20" I felt over the front. After that I'd say stand over becomes an issue. 6'1" 33.5" inseam. Any flattish stem over 135 gives me the tiller feel.
    This doesn't stop me from trying every one I come across and reading every Ritchey thread I find.
    Zip ties? Not on my bike!

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    Another couple of rides and the honeymoon continues. they recently graded the fire roads around here making the trails very slick but i had no problems with the Ritchey loosing control. (I did take it easy in the rally hazardous stretches...

    ...and a pic...
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    Quote Originally Posted by jeff View Post
    Even on a 20" I felt over the front. After that I'd say stand over becomes an issue. 6'1" 33.5" inseam. Any flattish stem over 135 gives me the tiller feel.
    This doesn't stop me from trying every one I come across and reading every Ritchey thread I find.
    At your height a 20" frame is the smallest that you'd possibly fit. I'm a half inch shorter than you and have a 20" P-23 with a 150mm stem. It rides great, but I'd trade it for a 21" frame if I could.
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    1995 p21 team

    I sure love this bike, one of my favorites no doubt. Serial # 8P98
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    Awesome looking machine, but that bear is looking to take a bite out of it

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    Well there you go.
    Quote Originally Posted by laffeaux View Post
    At your height a 20" frame is the smallest that you'd possibly fit. I'm a half inch shorter than you and have a 20" P-23 with a 150mm stem. It rides great, but I'd trade it for a 21" frame if I could.
    Zip ties? Not on my bike!

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    Shawn that is absolutely gorgeous, I am jealous beyond words.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by shawnw View Post
    I sure love this bike, one of my favorites no doubt. Serial # 8P98
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    That looks about perfect for me size-wise!!!

    Outstanding shawnw, simply lovely.

    Bring it to Keyesville next year so I can drool on it a bit.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CCMDoc View Post
    That looks about perfect for me size-wise!!!

    Outstanding shawnw, simply lovely.

    Bring it to Keyesville next year so I can drool on it a bit.
    Top tube is 22.2, CCM.. though wheelbase is not that short.
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    Well, my post was deleted... again. Darn! I guess I'll just have to drop by to look at all the pretty vintage P series bikes here until I get mine built up and can post my own pics.

    It's a '92 P-21. I'm only the second owner and have been riding it since about '95, when I traded it for a beat-to-death '89 Team StumpJumper. It was only the original frame, stem, and Ritchey Logic cantis, and had been "updated" with new Deore LX components and WTB wheels. now I have almost everything I need to get it back to showroom condition, including several NOS parts.

    So, keep those P series photos coming!
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    Fyi, the Ritchey Logic forks pop up "fairly" often on eBay... Is this what you are looking for?

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    Thanks for the link Benster. I've had a saved search in eBay for quite some time now and everything that shows up listed as a Ritchey turns out to be some other MFG that uses Ritchey Logic tubing, usually Bridgestone. The P series fork won't have the rack/fender braze-ons either and will have the Ritchey dropouts.
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    Gotcha, I guess I shouldn't be too surprised that its not that easy to find a true P series fork.

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    Seeking MB-2 Fork (19.3), Ritchey FD post silver 26.8

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    1994 P-21 and P-22 in Excel Catalog

    These scans are from the Spring 1994 Excel catalog, and aside from the obvious typo, contains some interesting information.

    Also interesting that the Lite Beam i the second most expensive bike just $120 cheaper than the P-21 Team WCS. And the Comp Shocker TS2 is $90 more than the P-22.
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    From now on, everything I sell is going to include a set of free barends.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DoubleCentury View Post
    From now on, everything I sell is going to include a set of free barends.
    Funny, after looking through the extended collection I too could stand to give some things away with purchase.

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    This is my freshly restored P-21 Team WCS with mostly NOS equipment.
    The paint job is done by Rick Stefani of d&d cycles, which has paint all the Ritchey P frames in the 90s.
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    The build is similar to the model below from a 1992 magazine exept some WCS-parts.
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    Stunning build, thanks for sharing and keeping this thread going too.

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    Great end to that story Mr. flyer. Can't wait to see how it comes out. As far as the headset?...Logic, duh.

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    Very nice! I just dropped my P-21 off at D&D on Friday. I had surrendered myself to the idea of going with the Tange fork because I wasn't able to find a replacement Ritchey. Rick at D&D had one in his shop and sold it to me. I'm super excited at the prospect of getting it back and building it up. I'll post pics when I'm finished, but it's going to be sometime in October. Only thing left on my shopping list is a headset. Ritchey Logic or XT? Can't decide.
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    Quote Originally Posted by trodaq View Post

    I usually melt over the red, white, and blue ones, but...

    That's a damn good looking bike.

    Looks fast too.



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    Quote Originally Posted by American Flyer View Post
    I had surrendered myself to the idea of going with the Tange fork because I wasn't able to find a replacement Ritchey. Rick at D&D had one in his shop and sold it to me.
    Did you notice if he had a spare fillet brazed P-series fork sitting around? I could you one for a 20 in. frame.
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    Looks like one is for sale (not mine)


    since it's over now guess it is ok to post a link


    Ritchey P21 Team WCS, $1525 on the Bay, domestic shipping only probably would have gottem more with International shipping.

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    Ritchey P-series, a fan page-image.jpg

    Had a great ride today

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    Helmet matches nicely
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    Quote Originally Posted by chefmiguel View Post
    Helmet matches nicely
    I'm known for being stylish
    Wanted: more of the same ... but different

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    Great thread revival!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rumpfy View Post
    Great thread revival!
    GREAT bike!
    Lots of fun and oh so light and flickable
    Wanted: more of the same ... but different

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    Quote Originally Posted by CCMDoc View Post
    GREAT bike!
    Lots of fun and oh so light and flickable
    MOre pics!! MOre riding impressions..
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    Quote Originally Posted by colker1 View Post
    MOre pics!! MOre riding impressions..
    OK FC, here you go:

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    Ritchey P-series, a fan page-image.jpg
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    Ride description - incredible.

    Obviously very light and responsive.

    Going up - climbs easily. Never lost traction going up and over wet roots and rocks even when standing on the pedals.

    Downhill - absorbs those rocks, roots and ruts more than any other steel bike I've ridden.

    These characteristics make this Fillet-Brazed P-23 more enjoyable and less fatiguing than many others on the type of terrain we have here in the northeast US.

    I do need to make a few changes to better suit my personal preferences. The bars have more bend than I like so I'll need to find the right Ritchey bar with 3 or 4 degree bend.
    I need a slightly longer stem - maybe a 140 and I'd love to find a FB version.
    QR skewers - while I love Ringle skewers they're just not "right" on this bike so some XTs will find their home on it instead.
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    Ride description - incredible.

    Obviously very light and responsive.

    Going up - climbs easily. Never lost traction going up and over wet roots and rocks even when standing on the pedals.

    Downhill - absorbs those rocks, roots and ruts more than any other steel bike I've ridden.

    These characteristics make this Fillet-Brazed P-23 more enjoyable and less fatiguing than many others on the type of terrain we have here in the northeast US.

    I do need to make a few changes to better suit my personal preferences. The bars have more bend than I like so I'll need to find the right Ritchey bar with 3 or 4 degree bend.
    I need a slightly longer stem - maybe a 140 and I'd love to find a FB version.
    QR skewers - while I love Ringle skewers they're just not "right" on this bike so some XTs will find their home on it instead.
    I've got a 140mm wcs gold ritchey in my parts box. If you can't find anything close i will ship it to you... It belongs on a P series frame.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CCMDoc View Post
    I do need to make a few changes to better suit my personal preferences. The bars have more bend than I like so I'll need to find the right Ritchey bar with 3 or 4 degree bend.
    I need a slightly longer stem - maybe a 140 and I'd love to find a FB version.
    QR skewers - while I love Ringle skewers they're just not "right" on this bike so some XTs will find their home on it instead.
    I may have some bars for you. They're too narrow for me so maybe they would be for you as well. 19 3/4", I believe. Yours if you want them.

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    Thank you Colker and Girlonbike!
    I'll PM you later tonight so I can arrange payment and shipping details.
    Very kind of you both.
    Thanks!!!

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    Though I'd post a couple of my favorite P-bikes

    '90 P-23 tig'd #473 One of my favorite riders


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    I have a fun Ritchey story. In 1995 I bought (direct from Ritchey the Co.) a 93 P23 frame and fork for $100. They told me it would be whatever color they chose (but did say it would likely be red) and that it would be labeled however they decided. It was not labeled correctly and it was Ritchey red. I still have it. They didn't owe me anything. I had not previously owned a Ritchey (though I wanted to and chose as my first MTB an 84 Stumpy sport with the corresponding Ritchey Ascent sitting right next to it in the Livermore Cyclery back shop - MTBs were in the back of the shop back then), so there was no warranty claim or other claim that I had with Ritchey. Fate, sort of. At any rate, they were very generous to me when they had zero obligation. My wife has run into Tom a couple of times over the years while riding the Ritchey. He always comments on the build - only giving his conditioned approval (we could do better). It is now my wife's go fast towny (no fenders, Deer Head drivetrain, nothing extra, sporting a Ritchey SP and full Ritchey WS).

    It is the same Ritchey that my wife negotiated from me as part of our marriage. I offered a ring or any bike she wanted - no limit. She answered without hardly any pause, 'I'll take the Ritchey and any ring you give me.' So that's the deal there.
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    If you can use a 150 mm I have a Forcelite you can have.

    Quote Originally Posted by CCMDoc View Post
    Thank you Colker and Girlonbike!
    I'll PM you later tonight so I can arrange payment and shipping details.
    Very kind of you both.
    Thanks!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by MattBallman View Post
    If you can use a 150 mm I have a Forcelite you can have.
    Thanks Matt - very kind of you.
    I'm set with the stem I got from Colker though would love a fillet-brazed version for my P-23 Team.
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    OK, technically a P Series

    Hello there gang,

    OK, I know she's not truly vintage (though it's up for debate), but I got a good deal on a bare/NOS 1999 Ritchey NiTi (nitanium) frame and have been building her up with some, but not all period parts. I'm getting close, but still have a lot of the fine details to finish (front/back derailleur adjustment etc.) I ordered the nice panel Ritchey NiTi decals from Gil (he did great work on my 91' Bontrager decals). In either case, I've heard mixed reviews on the handling of the NiTi, any one out there care to comment, give their thoughts?

    Build (1999 M NiTi frame)\
    Full 1999 XT with XTR canti brakes and front/rear derailleur
    Wheels XT hubs, Mavic 517 SUP rims (great deal on em!)
    Ritchey WCS riser bars (had to since I'm 6 ft and the bikes a touch small)
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    Odd Surly Big Dummy fork (tough to find a canti, 80 mm corrected fork for my budget, we'll see about this one. Anyone have any other ideas for fork?

    So, that's her, I'm having surgery in a couple weeks and built her as inspiration to heal quickly and get on it for the spring/summer.

    Any one that has experience riding one of these? BTW, even with the 3x9 she still comes in around 23Ritchey P-series, a fan page-ritchey-1.jpgRitchey P-series, a fan page-ritchey-2.jpgRitchey P-series, a fan page-ritchey-3.jpgRitchey P-series, a fan page-ritchey-4.jpg.5 lbs, handling is my concern.

    Cheers to all and ride on, it'll be a wet one here in the Bay Area...

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    Not a p series, Santa.

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    Considered the last incarnation of the 26er P-series.
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    My P23

    Supposedly the only to come with this color....Ser# 709
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    Hmm girlonbike, agree with doublecentur below, according to old mountain bike website and Vintage mountain bike workshop

    2001 Ritchey NiTi - Vintage Mountain Bike Workshop

    The NiTi was the last iteration of the P-series. As I said I know it's no P-Team by no means, but for a humble geologist's salary it's the best I could do until I find that hidden gem in someone's barn or garage.

    I was curious if anyone has any experience in the saddle on one of these? I won't be able to ride until I fully recover from surgery and partially built it up while house confined after surgery. I'm eager to see how she handles.......

    Cheers to all and I look forward to seeing any of you NorCal riders on the trails. It would be nice if BTCEB would have an "vintage" mountain bike ride this spring, I might ask about that.

    Dig it and ride on all

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. Claus View Post
    Hmm girlonbike, agree with doublecentur below, according to old mountain bike website and Vintage mountain bike workshop

    2001 Ritchey NiTi - Vintage Mountain Bike Workshop

    The NiTi was the last iteration of the P-series. As I said I know it's no P-Team by no means, but for a humble geologist's salary it's the best I could do until I find that hidden gem in someone's barn or garage.

    I was curious if anyone has any experience in the saddle on one of these? I won't be able to ride until I fully recover from surgery and partially built it up while house confined after surgery. I'm eager to see how she handles.......

    Cheers to all and I look forward to seeing any of you NorCal riders on the trails. It would be nice if BTCEB would have an "vintage" mountain bike ride this spring, I might ask about that.

    Dig it and ride on all
    double century has a vested interest in that answer! So he's probably also the one that can best answer your questions about the ride. Perhaps the guy that has that workshop should change the name to vintageandnonvintagemountainbikeworkshop. It's a little misleading.

    That's a little late for most people around these parts but maybe ask around in the Ritchey subforum?

    I love geology!!! So fascinating!

    You should be able to find an earlier Ritchey pretty easily and it's probably one of the cheaper American made vintage bikes and should be doable with your well earned salary.

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    Quote Originally Posted by girlonbike View Post
    Perhaps the guy that has that workshop should change the name to vintageandnonvintagemountainbikeworkshop. It's a little misleading.
    Start your own website and mislead people all you want.

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    Let's try to keep bikes in this thread vintage. Pre 1997-ish. There's a modern Ritchey forum with a Ritchey rep in the manufacturer section should you have any questions regarding your 2000 era Ritcheys.

    Thanks.

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    girlonbike, agreed and thanks for not poo-pooing my 1999 NiTi! Oh and yea geology rocks as it were and a nice compliment to mtn biking. Best to you all

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    There's a guy living here in Beirut who rides a well-used P-23. He said he bought it in Syria. No joke.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vlad View Post
    There's a guy living here in Beirut who rides a well-used P-23. He said he bought it in Syria. No joke.
    Vlad, you should start a travel thread. I'd like to see what you've been up to.

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    Done! I hope you enjoy.
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    Hi folks,

    I was on SF bay Area CL doing my usual Ritchey search, my eyes nearly blew out of my skull when I saw a P-21 Team for sale (it's that mint'ish one posted by shawnw on Page 2 or 3 of this post). A tad small for me (18" and I'm 6 ft), I've been in contact with the owner, seems like a really good guy, but now it's on E-bay, he won't budge from $2,800, I tried, even local pick-up (it's appropriately in Redwood City), I tried to rationalize plunking down that kinda dough, but just couldn't get myself to do it.

    Am I a chump? I always envisioned finding the old garage sale one....not the case. BUT as the universe would have it, I just bought and am awaiting the shipping of an almost mint P-22 (no not Team, and I probably don't even deserve one of those)...I will cherish the P-22 as well as the $2,000+ I saved!! I plan to bring it to Keysville next year. I've been on the east coast for the past 15 years, this'll be my first Keysville....If anyone can plunk down the cash, the P-21 Team is on flea-bay...I'm gussing it'll finally go for $3,000+....any bets?
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    Ritchey P-series, a fan page

    It's probably too small for you dontcha think? They do come around in your size so patience will keep you from making rash decisions based on emotions.

    And let's work on your self confidence if you think you don't deserve a particular bike.

    That one is a beaut and looks just as nice in real life.

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    GOB, agreed too small and my bank account appreciates that. Who knows maybe I'll see it on trails in the bay area and be happy it's so small. In either case, as I said I am awaiting my P-22 (1993?) in r/w/b, it appears to have a couple quirks, but we'll see once it arrives and it's a 20" and in great shape, original owner and it has slicks on it, so that tells you something. I'll post pics when it arrives (fingers crossed)!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. Claus View Post
    Hi folks,

    I was on SF bay Area CL doing my usual Ritchey search, my eyes nearly blew out of my skull when I saw a P-21 Team for sale (it's that mint'ish one posted by shawnw on Page 2 or 3 of this post). I've been in contact with the owner, seems like a really good guy, but now it's on E-bay, he won't budge from $2,800, I tried, even local pick-up


    Of course he won't budge...the guy is a d*ck....he hoards all the cool WTB stuff too.








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    Ritchey P-series, a fan page

    Yes, you never know. I've seen it on the trails.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. Claus View Post
    A tad small for me (18" and I'm 6 ft), ...
    It's way too small for you. I'd not worry about it.

    I'm just over 6'0" and have a 20" P-23 and would gladly trade it for a 21" if I had the chance.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. Claus View Post
    Hi folks,

    I was on SF bay Area CL doing my usual Ritchey search, my eyes nearly blew out of my skull when I saw a P-21 Team for sale (it's that mint'ish one posted by shawnw on Page 2 or 3 of this post). A tad small for me (18" and I'm 6 ft), I've been in contact with the owner, seems like a really good guy, but now it's on E-bay, he won't budge from $2,800, I tried, even local pick-up (it's appropriately in Redwood City), I tried to rationalize plunking down that kinda dough, but just couldn't get myself to do it.

    Am I a chump? I always envisioned finding the old garage sale one....not the case. BUT as the universe would have it, I just bought and am awaiting the shipping of an almost mint P-22 (no not Team, and I probably don't even deserve one of those)...I will cherish the P-22 as well as the $2,000+ I saved!! I plan to bring it to Keysville next year. I've been on the east coast for the past 15 years, this'll be my first Keysville....If anyone can plunk down the cash, the P-21 Team is on flea-bay...I'm gussing it'll finally go for $3,000+....any bets?
    Dig it and best to all
    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. Claus View Post
    GOB, agreed too small and my bank account appreciates that. Who knows maybe I'll see it on trails in the bay area and be happy it's so small. In either case, as I said I am awaiting my P-22 (1993?) in r/w/b, it appears to have a couple quirks, but we'll see once it arrives and it's a 20" and in great shape, original owner and it has slicks on it, so that tells you something. I'll post pics when it arrives (fingers crossed)!

    Did you get the Milwaukee/Walworth bike? That was a screamin' deal. Won't take much to sort that bike out properly. If you're 6', the 20" will fit you perfectly. SW's 18", while amazing, will be too small for you. I'm a touch under 5'11" and my P-23 Team is a 19". It fits on the small side.

    I'm not totally convinced he'll get $2800 for it (his photos suck), but I do think the bike is worth around that much. It won't hit $3000.

    Stoked to hear you're KV bound next year. Its a damn good time. Working on setting up a local vintage ride now...so if the bike gets in and sorted soon and you're a Bay Area local...ride up!
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    local vintage ride, great

    Rumpf,

    A local vintage ride would be a blast, I live in Berkeley, so yah local and would certainly attend. The P-22 should be here in a week, there are a couple things to sort though, cranks and headset = shimano 600, WTF? not great wheelset. I'll have to work on that, or leave them as an oddity? that's how he bought it new. If it's not here/ready, I could hop on my 1991 Bonty for a ride.

    I'm also on my 8th week or recovering from hip surgery (about 35 yrs too early for it), but I've been on the stationary bike (yawn) and shouldn't be too terribly out of shape, but a fun vintage ride I could probably swing, please keep us posted.

    The P-21 Team only has 1 bid ($1,800), but I bet it'll move up as the bidding ends, but maybe not?

    Here are a couple pics of the P-22

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    Those were pretty nice headsets bitd.

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    I'd swap the tires and seat, lose the bar ends, rotate the levers, and ride the hell out of that pretending I was Frischi.





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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. Claus View Post
    headset = shimano 600, WTF?
    That's a good choice for a headset. 600 and Dura Ace were common on high-end bikes.
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    Hmm, thanks for the info folks, it'll be delivered in about 3 days, quite excited. I'll give it a look look-see and will likely keep the shimano 600 headset, but I'm not sure about the 600 crankset. In any case I can't wait to hit the trails. It couldn't have seen much off-road action in the last 20+ years as the size/weight decal is still intact. OH and looks like I need to loose about 10 lbs, haRitchey P-series, a fan page-p-22_3.jpg!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. Claus View Post
    Rumpf,

    A local vintage ride would be a blast, I live in Berkeley, so yah local and would certainly attend. The P-22 should be here in a week, there are a couple things to sort though, cranks and headset = shimano 600, WTF? not great wheelset. I'll have to work on that, or leave them as an oddity? that's how he bought it new. If it's not here/ready, I could hop on my 1991 Bonty for a ride.

    I'm also on my 8th week or recovering from hip surgery (about 35 yrs too early for it), but I've been on the stationary bike (yawn) and shouldn't be too terribly out of shape, but a fun vintage ride I could probably swing, please keep us posted.

    The P-21 Team only has 1 bid ($1,800), but I bet it'll move up as the bidding ends, but maybe not?

    Here are a couple pics of the P-22

    I almost emailed on that one myself. Great looking bike.
    As others have said, the 600 headests were/are great. Certainly as good as an XT and better than the Ritchey Logic headset, plus I think they're a bit lighter. Grams make pounds my man.
    Standard spec for Ritchey P-Series bikes were often 600 headsets and front hubs to shave weight.
    Although Ritchey typically spec'ed an all M732/M735 & Ritchey Logic build, if this bike is about a 92 or 93 and the original owner wanted the all new M900 XTR build, nothing is too out of place on this bike. Put Z-Max tires on it and a better saddle and you could be done. Not sure what the wheelset is, but that can be a down stream fix as well. Tune and go!

    I'll keep everyone posted on organizing a vintage ride. I'm coming off a full AC joint separation myself, so it won't be a hammerfest whatever we do.
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    Good luck with the recovery, the past 8 weeks for me have driven me wookie crazy, but the stationary sorta pacifies me. Thanks for the info on the XTR, that'll stay, a friend had an almost period saddle that I picked up yesterday (Ritchey Vector, I think 1996), close enough? probably not, it's also pretty narrow, but I'll keep it if it's comfy.

    Also I can't really spring for the old Z-Max tires, but I have a pair of ~ WTBs from about 95' that are in really good shape and I'll mount those.

    Lastly, the P-21 Team, still $1,800, 1 bid, but as is the case, if it goes there will be that rapid/sniper bidding war in the last 1-2 minutes?? If it stays at $1,800 would Shaw take it?

    Best to all and can't wait to meet some of you on this, luckily non-hammer vintage ride you're putting together, I'm in, but will be partially one-legged, but my right leg is a monster at this point compensating for the left!

    Best to all

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    P-22 out in the "wild"

    OK, got the P-22 (formerly a commuter in Chicago) out into the hills of Briones where it belongs, thought I'd throw a pic out there. I still need input/opinion on some parts changes so I created the following thread (but probably put it in the wrong place), anyone care to assist, mostly crank and wheelset questions. Here's the thread

    My 1991/1992 P-22 tweak-build

    And here's a pic, I think it's happy to be out of the garage
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