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    RIP Jobst Brandt

    Hollister says goddamnit. The rest of us would say, we lost a giant. Crack open his book tonight, raise a glass, bid a legend farewell and thank him for helping us understand the wheel a whole lot better.

    https://rayhosler.wordpress.com/2015...st-a-lifetime/

    Thanks for the link, H. I am super sad...

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    Cheers to Brandt. He was truly a giant, and unafraid to call bs.

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    I wish I could have been on one of those off-road Santa Cruz rides.

    I built my first wheel with his book.

    Such a passionate contributor to cycling.

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    RIP. that made me sad.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DoubleCentury View Post
    I built my first wheel with his book.

    Such a passionate contributor to cycling.
    Same here. And agreed, such dedication to cycling. He will be missed. If there is an afterlife, Jobst and Sheldon are probably gearing up for a ride right about now.

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    Well that just 180'd my evening....

    30 years of wheel building, and every last stinking one of them, laced his way.

    That was an excellent tribute too, thanks for posting it.

    Cheers sir, despite never meeting, you shall be missed.
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    From one wheel man to another

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    RIP Jobst Brandt

    I really love this jersey or vest. RIP Jobst Brandt-imageuploadedbytapatalk1430972375.482291.jpg
    Photo by Ray Hosler of Laurence Malone

    Signal cycles did a jersey in sort of an old school specialized color scheme a few years ago that was kind of similar. I should have ordered one!

    Nice find, H.

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    I'll have to reread his book.

    I was thinking the other day that the wheel is a determinate enough structure that it can probably be optimized for weight or rotational inertia with a function, and not just tests and hope...
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    Quote Originally Posted by hollister View Post


    That iconic yellow bike is proof that you don't need to have the latest modern equipment to be a super strong rider and cover a gazillion miles in your lifetime and have a total blast while doing it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by girlonbike View Post
    I really love this jersey or vest. Click image for larger version. 

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    Photo by Ray Hosler of Laurence Malone

    Signal cycles did a jersey in sort of an old school specialized color scheme a few years ago that was kind of similar. I should have ordered one!

    Nice find, H.
    I built a wheel or two back in the day with his book. It's still around somewhere. I think he was a big help with Avocet seats, tires, and computers as well. He had a large presence on some bicycle usenet page right? Those would be fun to read. He always had good solid info unafraid to tell it like it is.

    G, I've got a jersey or two like that that I could maybe part with. And a side note, I was lucky enough to get a chance to toe the starting line with Laurence Malone in about 1990 or so when he was making his masters comeback.

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    Bummed. The old masters are dropping like flies. Where are the new cycling authors? Oh yeh, they're banned for life.
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    Bummer. It's sad to hear of his passing. He was a great contributor to the biking world.
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    I have the book but damned if I'm smart enough to understand it. Over twenty five years in my collection! Hell, still built a few hundred wheels anyways.

    That guy was amazing, I knew so little about him and his life until unfortunately after his passing.
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    R.I.P. ya gruff old fart. I always enjoyed the rare chance to see or talk to ya. The book you gave me is still in the collection, right on the shelf where I can see it, and there's a lot less dust on it since everyone who talks bikes w me is shown it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fillet-brazed View Post
    I built a wheel or two back in the day with his book. It's still around somewhere. I think he was a big help with Avocet seats, tires, and computers as well. He had a large presence on some bicycle usenet page right? Those would be fun to read. He always had good solid info unafraid to tell it like it is.

    G, I've got a jersey or two like that that I could maybe part with. And a side note, I was lucky enough to get a chance to toe the starting line with Laurence Malone in about 1990 or so when he was making his masters comeback.
    cool. Thanks, FB!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fillet-brazed View Post
    He had a large presence on some bicycle usenet page right?
    He was on rec.bicycles in the late 80's. He didn't post about how his daily ride went nor did he talk about a great deal he got at some shop rather after somebody talking some bs about how using talcum powder on their tubes gave them less flats or some such, he would come in with facts and data and leave the person a smoking, flattened mess.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fillet-brazed View Post
    I built a wheel or two back in the day with his book. It's still around somewhere. I think he was a big help with Avocet seats, tires, and computers as well. He had a large presence on some bicycle usenet page right? Those would be fun to read. He always had good solid info unafraid to tell it like it is.
    Some fun reading:

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    Dang! That's got some sweet little details, really like the chain stay pump "saddle", thanks for sharing, very cool.....
    This is a Pugs not some carbon wannabee pretzel wagon!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by pinguwin View Post
    He was on rec.bicycles in the late 80's. He didn't post about how his daily ride went nor did he talk about a great deal he got at some shop rather after somebody talking some bs about how using talcum powder on their tubes gave them less flats or some such, he would come in with facts and data and leave the person a smoking, flattened mess.
    His back and forth with Keith Bontrager was always entertaining. While the guy knew a lot, he sometimes oversimplified problems. Just because you can't measure it with a sensor, does not mean that you can't feel it.
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    I learned to build wheels from his book and still reference it sometimes. And he was a very likable and generous (in many ways) person. We need more folks like him.
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    Quote Originally Posted by hollister View Post


    Stunning work on that frame..

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    Beautifully done! That Peter Johnson frame is a work of art and the pragmatic mix of parts is perfect. I have to ask... what chain ring combo and size tires did he ride?
    Thanks for posting.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TrailNRG View Post
    Beautifully done! That Peter Johnson frame is a work of art and the pragmatic mix of parts is perfect. I have to ask... what chain ring combo and size tires did he ride?
    Thanks for posting.
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    I've seen a bunch of different sized tires on it over the years. If memory serves the last time I saw it before the restoration it was on 28's
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    A 50/47!?!? And here I am puttzing around on a 42t and 35c's... sheesh. I better "ride bike" more.
    Thanks for the info and great restoration!
    RIP Jobst

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    OK I'll pipe in. I saw Jobst probably once a week and talked to him quite a lot when I worked at PAB during my high school and college days in the mid/late 80s. At that time he was riding a big yellow Ritchey with, if I remember right, Campy C-Record cranks (he used to break the older Record cranks), Suntour front der (stronger return spring than Campy at that time) and of course Avocet tires and MA2s. When I went to study in Italy for a year Jobst talked me into bringing my bike. He was really quite adamant about it and wouldn't take any of my excuses--basically talked me into it. I was always very grateful about that. He used to ride to the airport and then put his bike in a big clear plastic bag. Claimed the airlines never damaged it. I always loved his MA2 vs MA40 rants (I was a poseur and thought MA40s looked cool). Truthfully I was never entirely sold on the Avocet tires (which I got for free). And I'll always remember him walking about in his Duegi shoes which a custom heal to make it easier to walk. Anyway, he was an awesome guy and a true inspiration. I was really bummed when I heard about his fall a few years back but it's cool that he never stopped riding.

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    All spoken for, thanx all!
    Attached Thumbnails Attached Thumbnails RIP Jobst Brandt-img_0003.jpg  

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    RIP Jobst

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    Which bike is that?

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    30 years of wheel building, and every last stinking one of them, laced his way.
    I've got just over 20, and only once did I deviate from his way. Had to rebuild that one, the lesson needed to be learned.

    It sounds like he made the most of his time, bravo.

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    Quote Originally Posted by girlonbike View Post
    Which bike is that?
    Most likely this one

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    Peter Johnson

    PJ is surely a ripper on the trails too. Here's a cool little clip by Jake Hess & crew that shows off his skinny tires on dirt skills.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hollister View Post
    Most likely this one
    Thanks, H. I wonder if he had as many bikes as say....Bushpig....

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    Hope itís okay if I bump this thread.

    I have a question about the bicycle shown here.

    According to the EXIF info in the photos, the pictures were taken on 24 June 2015.

    A few days earlier, on 20 June 2015, at the Jobst Brandt memorial ride, Ray Hosler showed a photo of another tall, yellow bicycle, with this description: ďThe big yellow bike in the front is Jobstís old one with a repaired rear stay, owned now by Richard Mlynarik.Ē

    So is the bicycle in this thread a new one that Brandt acquired after his crash?

    Who owns this bicycle today? Itís a fascinating machine. Do we know who built the frame? Or why itís equipped with a Bontrager stem this time around?

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    Pretty sure this thread is always ok to bump.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Samuel_D View Post
    Hope itís okay if I bump this thread.

    I have a question about the bicycle shown here.

    According to the EXIF info in the photos, the pictures were taken on 24 June 2015.

    A few days earlier, on 20 June 2015, at the Jobst Brandt memorial ride, Ray Hosler showed a photo of another tall, yellow bicycle, with this description: ďThe big yellow bike in the front is Jobstís old one with a repaired rear stay, owned now by Richard Mlynarik.Ē

    So is the bicycle in this thread a new one that Brandt acquired after his crash?

    Who owns this bicycle today? Itís a fascinating machine. Do we know who built the frame? Or why itís equipped with a Bontrager stem this time around?
    I believe it was built by Tom Ritchey.
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    The yellow bike is a Peter Johnson. When I took the June pics it had just finished being tuned and cleaned by a long time friend of Jobst, I believe it's headed to a local museum.
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    The new one? Because there are two tall, yellow bicycles. The proof is that theyíre visible together in this photo taken at the Jobst Brandt memorial event. (From this gallery, incidentally full of famous people in cycling.)

    And the same gentleman posted this photo of Jobst with the newer-looking bicycle, dated 20 July 2012 in the EXIF data. Itís poignant to remember that that is over a year after his bad accident. With this knowledge, Jobst appears as a downed bird.

    But this is bordering on stalking now. Rest assured I have no ulterior motives aside from curiosity about a man who profoundly affected how I think about cycling and beyond.

    If you hear which museum gets the bicycle, Iíd appreciate knowing that in case I ever have the chance to visit California.

    Thanks!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Samuel_D View Post
    The new one? Because there are two tall, yellow bicycles. The proof is that theyíre visible together in this photo taken at the Jobst Brandt memorial event. (From this gallery, incidentally full of famous people in cycling.)

    And the same gentleman posted this photo of Jobst with the newer-looking bicycle, dated 20 July 2012 in the EXIF data. Itís poignant to remember that that is over a year after his bad accident. With this knowledge, Jobst appears as a downed bird.

    But this is bordering on stalking now. Rest assured I have no ulterior motives aside from curiosity about a man who profoundly affected how I think about cycling and beyond.

    If you hear which museum gets the bicycle, Iíd appreciate knowing that in case I ever have the chance to visit California.

    Thanks!
    Great links. Looks like the bike above are all of the one right behind the speakers. And don't worry about the stalking....you have no idea about this crowd.




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    I'm certain of it
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    1st time riding up dirt Alpine yesterday since his memorial,I was struck by the rutted unchanneled state of this path.
    For decades, when I lived nearby I'd spent many hrs w him quietly reconditioning the drainage channels as Jobst had his tool stash up there.
    I say quietly cause we argued quite a bit, in a mostly respectful manner,but quite a bit.

    Seeing the multitudes riding this old trail yesterday,seemingly not one considering taking the time to provide unsolicited care to the degraded surface, had me missing Jobst,the ol coot.
    Jobst was a lot of things as shown by this thread, please add tireless dirt Alpine caretaker to the list....and his absence fine tuning drainage-brush overgrowth along the dirt Alpine trail is sorely missed.
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