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    Re-painting a frame where the decals are under the clear coat?

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    Hi All,

    Looking for advice on the best way to restore a frame that has the decals and makers badge under the clear coat?

    I was thinking of spraying a one stage with the decals masked off and then a clear over everything.

    Thanks in advance.
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    I suspect you will put a lot of effort into doing that and ultimately be disappointed with the result because the transition from old to new paint will not be as seamless as you would like.
    You might consider having the decals reproduced and once you have what you need strip it to the metal and go from there.
    No less work but I believe you will be happier with the result.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CCMDoc View Post
    I suspect you will put a lot of effort into doing that and ultimately be disappointed with the result because the transition from old to new paint will not be as seamless as you would like.
    You might consider having the decals reproduced and once you have what you need strip it to the metal and go from there.
    No less work but I believe you will be happier with the result.
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    It's hard to tell for sure from the photo, but that frame looks like all it needs is a buffing. (I know, I know ... I could be wrong.) I've had very good luck with some of the automotive liquid rubbing compounds such as "Scratch Out". In my experience you can get a paint job back to nearly new looking with a little bit of buffing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CCMDoc View Post
    I suspect you will put a lot of effort into doing that and ultimately be disappointed with the result because the transition from old to new paint will not be as seamless as you would like.
    You might consider having the decals reproduced and once you have what you need strip it to the metal and go from there.
    No less work but I believe you will be happier with the result.
    The good news is the name decals were designed to look as if a pin striper put them on by hand so to actually have them hand painted would be an upgrade.

    Bad new is the makers badge is to complex to duplicate by hand. Where and how would someone go about getting decals reproduced?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jak0zilla View Post
    It's hard to tell for sure from the photo, but that frame looks like all it needs is a buffing. (I know, I know ... I could be wrong.) I've had very good luck with some of the automotive liquid rubbing compounds such as "Scratch Out". In my experience you can get a paint job back to nearly new looking with a little bit of buffing.
    This on needs a new pant job for sure

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    Quote Originally Posted by CCMDoc View Post
    I suspect you will put a lot of effort into doing that and ultimately be disappointed with the result because the transition from old to new paint will not be as seamless as you would like.
    You might consider having the decals reproduced and once you have what you need strip it to the metal and go from there.
    No less work but I believe you will be happier with the result.
    One more thing: What advantage to stripping it to metal? I would generally feel that the new paint would cut into the existing paint and primer better then to raw aluminum?

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    search "schwinn decals" on ebay. I'm guessing you'll be able to find something acceptable. You could even use some older style decals to give it more of a vintage vibe.
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    Quote Originally Posted by muddybuddy View Post
    search "schwinn decals" on ebay. I'm guessing you'll be able to find something acceptable. You could even use some older style decals to give it more of a vintage vibe.
    Not really interested in older decals and I have searched eBay and a half dozen classic Schwinn decal sites with no luck. Although cool to us MTBR folks because this Panther is lightweight and has mountain bike geometry the impression I got from my searches is "if it wasn't made in Chicago it isn't a Schwinn."

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    Here is the pinstripe style lettering
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    Here is the Makers Badge
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    Pretty cool that they put the frame angles on the bike.
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    For Salsa stems where the graphic isn't under the clear coat, I've had pretty good luck masking off. Maybe you can mask off and accent the transition with some pin striping around the tube.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DoubleCentury View Post
    For Salsa stems where the graphic isn't under the clear coat, I've had pretty good luck masking off. Maybe you can mask off and accent the transition with some pin striping around the tube.



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    Quote Originally Posted by arcdesigns View Post
    The good news is the name decals were designed to look as if a pin striper put them on by hand so to actually have them hand painted would be an upgrade.

    Bad new is the makers badge is to complex to duplicate by hand. Where and how would someone go about getting decals reproduced?
    There are a few places that to exceptional decal reproductions. You take a number of measurements and a bunch of photos and they create them. I'll try to find the name and contact info of the place I've used.
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    Quote Originally Posted by arcdesigns View Post
    One more thing: What advantage to stripping it to metal? I would generally feel that the new paint would cut into the existing paint and primer better then to raw aluminum?
    You never really know the integrity of the original paint application. It would be a terrible disappointment to go through the trouble and work to see your new paint job bubbling up over a previously poorly prepped section.

    But...
    Only you have to be satisfied with the result and feel its a good ROI.
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