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    period correct saddle options for '90 mb1

    Hello all, I know everyones backside/preference is different when it comes to saddle comfort level, but my arse is making a big stink about this avocet racing i, lol. Looking for a period correct saddle for my '90 mb1; i find the '88 spesh lambda and early avocet m30 gelflex tolerable. I've never tried a flite, turbo or concors. Any suggestions/comments along with a pic /would be appreciated/helpful since there seems to be variances of the gelflex year to year for example. Period correct, I tell ya...

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    As far as Avocet, their 02 air, gelflex, or touring saddles have more give than their racing.
    Can't go wrong with a Brooks.
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    Despite their minimalistic look, I've always found the Flite Ti to be the most comfortable saddle I've used.
    Wanted: more of the same ... but different

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    Period correct would be Turbo. I like Flites too, but didn't they came out in '91?
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    Quote Originally Posted by yo-Nate-y View Post
    Period correct would be Turbo. I like Flites too, but didn't they came out in '91?
    According to Selle Italia, the Flite came out in 1990
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    Throw a Brooks B-17 on there. It was certainly sold and used during that time period and it will be a very comfortable saddle, once broken in. Perhaps you should ping Grant Peterson over at Rivendell on what he thinks you should put on that MB-1...I'm pretty sure he is familiar with that bike....
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    Grant might know something about mb1 Thx for all the input thus far, always been curious about the flite saddles. Never gave them a chance though since they looked as narrow as my old SDG Ti Kevlar saddle, which was painful as well.

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    Flites are great saddles, very comfortable. I've never had any luck with Turbos comfort-wise. If you're tall - especially on a bike from the era - a Brooks may screw up your saddle-to-bars length.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mainlyfats View Post
    Flites are great saddles, very comfortable. I've never had any luck with Turbos comfort-wise. If you're tall - especially on a bike from the era - a Brooks may screw up your saddle-to-bars length.
    Yeah, I have a long torso that's what I found. I like the B-17, but the rails set it further forward than other saddles. I took it off my bridgestone, and put the avocet back on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dolefee View Post
    Hello all, I know everyones backside/preference is different when it comes to saddle comfort level, but my arse is making a big stink about this avocet racing i, lol. Looking for a period correct saddle for my '90 mb1; i find the '88 spesh lambda and early avocet m30 gelflex tolerable. I've never tried a flite, turbo or concors. Any suggestions/comments along with a pic /would be appreciated/helpful since there seems to be variances of the gelflex year to year for example. Period correct, I tell ya...
    If the Avocet Racing (I, II, or III) is giving you a bad time, the Turbo won't be much better. Flite probably even less comfortable still.

    That said, the Avocet Racing and Selle Italia Turbo saddles are a couple of my favorites. I've used Flites since the early 90's and enjoy them as well....so like you said, different for everyone.


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    Avocets - Racing/Touring # vintage - are nice; less pimp somehow to my eye than Turbos. Nothing says pro like a vintage Unicanitor... Ne plus ultra of hardman/retrogrouch saddles IMHO.

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    Rumpfy don't joke... I'm rocking a Specialized "comfort" saddle on my commuter these days. #oldass

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    Turbos are narrow. For long hours in the saddle my favourite is the san marco regal. the old original.. the reissue is flat and feels different. Flites are nice for short time, intense effort on mtbs cause it makes easy to move the bike around..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rumpfy View Post
    Now that's funny right there I don't care who you are
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rumpfy View Post

    Sorry, my mb-1 isnt tandem, j/k. I'm afraid to pull the trigger on the Turbo or Flite. I might have to keep an eye out on a Vetta Gel or Avocet Gelflex. Funny how my Spesh Lambda is comfy to me, while the Avocet Racing I, though similar, isn't quite comfy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dolefee View Post
    I might have to keep an eye out on a Vetta Gel or Avocet Gelflex.
    <shivers> Period correct lycra tops? Vetta anything without irony? No, son. Just no.

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    "Might" was the key word, lol. Scratch that idea, as I've mentioned earlier, I've always been curious about the Flite saddle, I may just go that route. Thx for all the input...

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    Quote Originally Posted by CCMDoc View Post
    According to Selle Italia, the Flite came out in 1990
    MOMBAT says 1991. I put one on my 1990 Fat Chance Team Comp because I remember buying a Flite the minute it entered the shop all those years ago and - coming down to a matter of months - I erred on the side of my a$$.
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    Quote Originally Posted by colker1 View Post
    Turbos are narrow. For long hours in the saddle my favourite is the san marco regal. the old original.. the reissue is flat and feels different. Flites are nice for short time, intense effort on mtbs cause it makes easy to move the bike around..
    Regals are horrible, stay away from them.
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    Anyone have any experience with the San Marco Concor Supercosa?

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    Btw, can someone explain to me why there are some flite titanium saddles listed on fleabay with a 87 stampdate when mombat has it for 91? Sorry for the rookie questions...

    Quote Originally Posted by mainlyfats View Post
    MOMBAT says 1991. I put one on my 1990 Fat Chance Team Comp because I remember buying a Flite the minute it entered the shop all those years ago and - coming down to a metter of months - I erred on the side of my a$$.

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    period correct saddle options for '90 mb1

    Flites are the best. I am still ridin them to this day. I never liked concors. They never fit my underside. Regals were nice and always looked so classy but I had a hard time riding them once the Flites came out. I remember I bought myself a Flite for Xmas my senior year of high school in 1990 and they were brand new. I got the first one that was
    Available to the shop.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mainlyfats View Post
    I erred on the side of my a$$.
    My sentiments as well especially since it's not my ass that hurts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dolefee View Post
    Btw, can someone explain to me why there are some flite titanium saddles listed on fleabay with a 87 stampdate when mombat has it for 91? Sorry for the rookie questions...
    Where? They definitely didn't exist in '87.
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    And this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JD5h3y0a9AU

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    I'd also second the Regal recommendation. Nice saddles.
    Somec is like the digital Zunow
    And this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JD5h3y0a9AU

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    Regal, thirded.

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    Try the Avocet Touring I, they are comfy and don't have the two humps like the Touring II. They are more of a 80"s saddle, but at this point it sounds like your looking for comfort.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chefmiguel View Post
    Regal, thirded.
    Yea, if you like sitting on a rock all day.....

    Horrible saddle.
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    Quote Originally Posted by yo-Nate-y View Post
    I'd also second the Regal recommendation. Nice saddles.
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    Nope stay away from the Regals. Heavy, Heavy, heavy saddle. Too flashy.... Fites' Yep Flites.....Perfect fit every time. Light..... Everyone loves them... A true vintage masterpiece....
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    Quote Originally Posted by dolefee View Post
    Hello all, I know everyones backside/preference is different when it comes to saddle comfort level, but my arse is making a big stink about this avocet racing i, lol. Looking for a period correct saddle for my '90 mb1; i find the '88 spesh lambda and early avocet m30 gelflex tolerable. I've never tried a flite, turbo or concors. Any suggestions/comments along with a pic /would be appreciated/helpful since there seems to be variances of the gelflex year to year for example. Period correct, I tell ya...
    I'm assuming you gave it a fair shake, you usually have to put in a number of miles in before your butt becomes accustomed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aemmer View Post
    ZZZt...

    Nope stay away from the Regals. Heavy, Heavy, heavy saddle. Too flashy.... Fites' Yep Flites.....Perfect fit every time. Light..... Everyone loves them... A true vintage masterpiece....
    It's good at isolating shock (cobblestone classics riders like them for a reason) and the shape supports the sit bones while not putting pressure on soft tissue. Well.. it's really subjective when it comes to saddles, isn't it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by dolefee View Post
    Selle Italia Flite Titanium Rail Saddle | eBay
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    That's a nice one. But 09/87 isn't the date code--most of my Flites from 97-98 have that same 09/87 on the back. The date is stamped in the middle a little circle at the front of the saddle, not the back.
    Somec is like the digital Zunow
    And this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JD5h3y0a9AU

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    I have a touring ii, not too fond of it. Havent tried the touring i yet. My backside usually knows whats comfy after a few miles, and from my last 15 mi outing, I've pretty much scratched off the racing i. I'm willing to try out a flite ti, just dont want to put out too much for it. Fleabay pricing is hit n miss. Btw, what is the difference between the flite ti saddles with red lettering vs white lettering on the rear part of the saddle? Which one is the "1990" repro version? Red I'm guessing...

    Quote Originally Posted by shawnw View Post
    I'm assuming you gave it a fair shake, you usually have to put in a number of miles in before your butt becomes accustomed.

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    Thx Nate, I may bid on that one, we'll see...

    Quote Originally Posted by yo-Nate-y View Post
    That's a nice one. But 09/87 isn't the date code--most of my Flites from 97-98 have that same 09/87 on the back. The date is stamped in the middle a little circle at the front of the saddle, not the back.

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    Ti Flite and nothing else.

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    Turbo

    period correct saddle options for '90 mb1-b3.jpgAlso like the Turbo, period correct as well. Get a perforated one, they didn't repo them. Pricey though.

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    That sure is purrty! I wonder if the perforated Turbo has more give/cushion than the standard Turbo due to the holes? Sweet looking saddle...

    Quote Originally Posted by shawnw View Post
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    Flites come perforated as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Groundoggy View Post
    Flites come perforated as well.

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    Where can I find one like that?
    My wife bought me one for my birthday BITD and it still resides on my Mongoose Ti JT Sig but very little leather left on it ...
    Wanted: more of the same ... but different

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    Tweaked the angle of the saddle a little(nose down more than usual for me), went on a quick 10mi ride, and happy to report the Racing I will be staying, atleast for now. Still curious about the Flite saddle though, liking the perforated look. Thanks for everyones input, was informative and fun. Safe riding...

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    Quote Originally Posted by CCMDoc View Post
    Where can I find one like that?
    My wife bought me one for my birthday BITD and it still resides on my Mongoose Ti JT Sig but very little leather left on it ...
    eBay, lot's of patience and a willingness to spend at least $80 - usually significantly more if it is listed as perforated. This wasn't listed as perforated so $80 was a bargain.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Groundoggy View Post
    eBay, lot's of patience and a willingness to spend at least $80 - usually significantly more if it is listed as perforated. This wasn't listed as perforated so $80 was a bargain.
    Thanks - I've been looking but have not come across a perforated one.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CCMDoc View Post
    Where can I find one like that?
    My wife bought me one for my birthday BITD and it still resides on my Mongoose Ti JT Sig but very little leather left on it ...
    My first flite was a perforated one and it wore out quickly too. They look cool but I'll stick to the standard for durability. The gel ones fall apart ridiculously quickly too.

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    On September 23, 1990 I tore up my Turbo bad enough that I had to get a new saddle. I replaced it with a Flite. So I'm certain that they were out in 1990. IIRC, they weren't out at the very beginning of the year but sometime in the middle but this part might be incorect.

    The other reason for 1990 is Selle website itself (Selle Italia :: VINTAGE « Selle Italia)

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    Quote Originally Posted by pinguwin View Post
    On September 23, 1990
    Time???

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    Quote Originally Posted by sho220 View Post
    Time???
    I don't have the exact time and date I got the saddle, but most likely it would have been the 26th. The Turbo it replaced was damaged at 11:40 +- 5 minutes.

    I was late for a race and had driven four hours to it. About one mile before getting to the race, my bike rack cracked and my Attitude went flying. It bounced off the front wheel and the saddle, damaging the rim and saddle then into a ditch. Outside of those two parts, there was only single scratch on the stem the size of a pea. I was sitting on the side of the road quite dejected when a guy comes by and says, "Your one of those fast guys, what are you doing here?" After recounting the tale of woe and he gave me his American Comp-Lite to race. I said, "How can you trust me, you might never see me again?" "Ach, go race."

    I got to the race with no time to spare as the director was giving the pre-race talk. The other race officials said not to worry about signing up as there was no time and put me in the front since I was racing pro/expert. So with thirty seconds before the start, the officials are pinning the number to my jersey at the starting line. The other riders are asking me what is happening and where my usual bike was, "Tell you after the race I said." 3..2..1..and we are off. Two guys and myself quickly settle into a lead group and eventually we had over two minutes on the next riders. I'm guaranteed a 1-3rd place finish, no way around it. I don't think I would have gotten first but a podium finish nonetheless. Guaranteed! Guaran... Damn it!

    The guy hadn't lubed his chain (not that had any obligation to) from the previous week's fourty-mile long mudfest and I got chainsuck and the chain broke. The 4 place (now 3rd) place rider passes me two minutes later. I didn't know what else to do and started to push. The other experts pass, then sport, then beginners. A race official tells me I have nine miles to go. I say, "I know." and keep pushing. I was intent on salvaging what I could from a really, really crappy day.

    They held up the awards ceremony as I'm still out there and I nearly passed a beginner but she rallied and said, "I'm not going to get beat by someone pushing!" They cheered me as I paddled across the line. So now you understand why I know the time and date so well.

    Epilogue: In 2012, they held a fat bike race there and when signing up, the guy doing the forms looked up and said, "I remember you!" They randomly assigned us to three-person teams and our team ended up winning. I finally made it to the podium at Levis-Trow in Neillsville, WI. It took me twenty-two years, but I made it.
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    And from that day forward Pinguin always loved Americans more than Kleins!
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    Quote Originally Posted by pinguwin View Post
    I don't have the exact time and date I got the saddle, but most likely it would have been the 26th. The Turbo it replaced was damaged at 11:40 +- 5 minutes.
    haha...thanks for the back story...was a good read.

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    Picked up a perforated flite and never looked back. I know, I know...the tires are not period correct. Just until I can locate some proper ones since my ground controls, megabites, and pinnacles are all unrideable.


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