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    The p20 came out in 1995 and was made for 2 or 3 years. It should ride very similarly to other p series frames

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    I love it when things work out easily.

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    Nice color!
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    Quote Originally Posted by laffeaux View Post
    I love it when things work out easily.
    Nice! Late model Super Comp?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rumpfy View Post
    Nice! Late model Super Comp?
    '89 Timber Comp - 21.5 inch

    The Kawasaki Green made me do it.

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    Saw that one on the bay... I ended up getting this

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    Quote Originally Posted by dubrat View Post
    Saw that one on the bay... I ended up getting this

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    Very nice! A classic!!
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    83 competition

    Just like the royal jewels that need to polished yearly so does this one. Actually took it for a bit of a ride and hey I'm think'n get her dirty I didn't wait a year for the paint to cure and apply all those layers of wax for nothing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rismtb View Post
    Actually took it for a bit of a ride and hey I'm think'n get her dirty
    How did it ride?

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    Well as far as it being fully ridged it is dream on relevant trails. As far as taking it on trails I normally ride no that would be dangerous. I would be very keen on doing a long trip on backroads with a pack and a rear rack with provisions for 3 or 4 days, its that comfortable.

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    Ser#S004-LiteBeam

    Near NOS RWB fade,P/U from original owner who lives in Fairfax.
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    That's right up your alley Sully! Looks pretty good (except for the V-brakes).
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    Rides dreamy too,
    The V-Brakes are stock,my threshold for unacceptable crap in regards to bicycle brakes are "anything moto is a no go" on my steeds...

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    Hello gents. Am finally getting around to paint my early 90's Ritchey P21 Team at the original factory painter, even though I am still looking for wheels and a few other small parts for it. Originally, it was a show bike with a unique paintjob and I am inclined to repaint it that way, but I am also looking for your suggestions as for how I should get it painted now - the period correct red-white-blue is a bit overdone, no? I want to keep it with me for the time being but resale value should also factor in the decision. Any suggestions? Thanks!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Oldermtber View Post
    Hello gents. Am finally getting around to paint my early 90's Ritchey P21 Team at the original factory painter, even though I am still looking for wheels and a few other small parts for it. Originally, it was a show bike with a unique paintjob and I am inclined to repaint it that way, but I am also looking for your suggestions as for how I should get it painted now - the period correct red-white-blue is a bit overdone, no? I want to keep it with me for the time being but resale value should also factor in the decision. Any suggestions? Thanks!

    I have seen yellow Ritcheys and i love it. It wasn´t a P21 but an early team comp.
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    Quote Originally Posted by colker1 View Post
    I have seen yellow Ritcheys and i love it. It wasn´t a P21 but an early team comp.
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    I worked for a Ritchey dealer in the early '90's and remember that buyers could choose custom paint colors from the DuPont Imron chart. Two or three color paint was popular then, like Fisher team fade, Ibis blue & purple, Serotta red/yellow, Ritchey early RW&B, Specialized did some. We sold Ritcheys in lots of colors: red, midnight blue, silver, sky blue & white, green & white, black. It hardly matters what colors you choose; someone has likely chosen them already.

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    Nice article.
    I can't believe that there is an "Electric Bike Action" magazine.

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    Just finished rebuilding this one

    82 McKinley or Everest.
    Don't know how to tell them apart
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    83 Everest

    Got a new rider too
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    Quote Originally Posted by zygote2k View Post
    82 McKinley or Everest.
    Don't know how to tell them apart
    Likely a McKinley. The difference between the two is a that the Everest came with a lighter head tube (your bike does not have it), and the option to add additional braze-ons like a second water bottle mount (which your bike does have), and the McKinley came in limited number of colors and sizes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by laffeaux View Post
    Likely a McKinley. The difference between the two is a that the Everest came with a lighter head tube (your bike does not have it), and the option to add additional braze-ons like a second water bottle mount (which your bike does have), and the McKinley came in limited number of colors and sizes.

    Ok- so how can you tell if the headtube is lightened just by looking at the bike?
    Is there a special lug on the outside? It looks identical to my 83 Everest.
    The prior owner swears it's an Everest.
    Is the wall thickness different?
    The bike has tons of braze-ons and 2 spots for bottle cages too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zygote2k View Post
    Ok- so how can you tell if the headtube is lightened just by looking at the bike?
    Is there a special lug on the outside?
    The "Mountain Bikes 1" frameset (Everest) had a relieved head tube as pictured below. If your bike has this, it does not look like it does, then it it is an Everest for sure.

    The "Mountain Bikes 2" frameset did not have this. The head tube is a uniform diameter form headset cup to headset cup.

    If your bike is missing this, but has the extra braze ons, who knows what it was sold as. It's either an Everest with the wrong head tube, or a a McKinley with extra braze ons.

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    Quote Originally Posted by laffeaux View Post
    The "Mountain Bikes 1" frameset (Everest) had a relieved head tube as pictured below. If your bike has this, it does not look like it does, then it it is an Everest for sure.

    The "Mountain Bikes 2" frameset did not have this. The head tube is a uniform diameter form headset cup to headset cup.

    If your bike is missing this, but has the extra braze ons, who knows what it was sold as. It's either an Everest with the wrong head tube, or a a McKinley with extra braze ons.

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    This simply canNOT be a 1977 Ritchey.

    I don't want to break rules, but there is an auction site listing for a bike that screams 1984+, but the guy is insisting that it is a 1977 -- and that he's the original owner. I really want to call Bullsh*t on this listing, but thought I'd cool my heels and ask here. It's all over Facebook, too.

    https://www.ebay.com/itm/The-very-fi...AAAOSwZqZaAqXs

    And I right?

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    Quote Originally Posted by LeicaLad View Post
    I don't want to break rules, but there is an auction site listing for a bike that screams 1984+, but the guy is insisting that it is a 1977 -- and that he's the original owner. I really want to call Bullsh*t on this listing, but thought I'd cool my heels and ask here. It's all over Facebook, too.

    https://www.ebay.com/itm/The-very-fi...AAAOSwZqZaAqXs

    And I right?
    Yeah, a 1985 frame with lots of misinformation.

    Hopefully it's just the result of a bad memory.
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    And, if that serial # is just 4 digits, doesn't that say it is a Canadian-market bike AND that it may NOT be actually brazed up by Tom???

    He's using the serial #9877 to say it was built Sept 8, 1977.

    The oldmountainbike site is down. By any chance, can that number be checked?

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    Quote Originally Posted by LeicaLad View Post
    He's using the serial #9877 to say it was built Sept 8, 1977.
    The serial number is visible in the BB picture. It is 9B77. It's a 19" TimberWolf (or Commando version with that paint) from about 1985.

    It's a nice bike, but certainly not 1977, and certainly not the first unicrown fork ever made. The unicrown fork and taper stays date from '84, prior to that neither existed on a Ritchey (who claims that his first mountain bike was made in 1979).
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    Wow. You have better eyes than I. I could see the photo but not read the #.

    Do we send a cease & desist note?

    OTOH, who's gonna even be tempted by that price?

    Thanks for the details, too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LeicaLad View Post
    Wow. You have better eyes than I. I could see the photo but not read the #.

    Do we send a cease & desist note?

    OTOH, who's gonna even be tempted by that price?

    Thanks for the details, too.


    Anyone who throws 2.8K on anything w/ historic value based on a seller´s description only, made of hyperboles like "first ever made" without any second guessing... somehow wants to be fooled.
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    Not sure if you'all can see this,as it's camouflaged, but here goes.
    Ser#1B222, Original Tyres,et al, 1st Owner upgraded to Biopace Chainrings(his designation for Biopace) to alleviate his knee problems.
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    i want a hite rite.
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