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    Quote Originally Posted by fjyang
    Its a home made bracket, I have to use two adapters to get the calipers to the right position, one IS 185mm and one post mount 203mm adapter. The rotor size is 180mm 7". Its nice to have bounch of adapters laying around when tackling these kinds of experiments. Rear adapter is from Specialized for its own FSR bikes of early 2000.
    I've never been one to pick apart other people's bikes, but I have to say, that caliper mount looks a little scary. and in reference to the brace, most of the play in the AMP forks should be in the linkages so it doesn't seem that the brace would help, but if it works for you, what do I know.
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    Quote Originally Posted by fjyang
    This is a Slingshot pic I found from a guy selling Lefty Adapters on ebay and its also the my dream Slingshot I like to built. I'd already have the Lefty fork, 1-1/8" adapters and lefty hub laced to Rolf Dolomite rims. I just can't find Slingshot 18" size with 1-1/8" steer tube frame for the past year or so for this project. If you have one that you're willing to part with please let me know or if you like my 91 flat top tube frame, a trade is even possible.

    That's a real head-turner.

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    How sturdy are the new slingshots. I am looking to get a travel frame, and was thinking about getting something with SS couplers (decent amount of money). Fold away frame looks like an interesting choice.

    Will it handle non abusive trailriding under a 200lb dude. I will run it with some dirt jump fork, as I will reuse my 20mm wheelset..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Curmy
    How sturdy are the new slingshots. I am looking to get a travel frame, and was thinking about getting something with SS couplers (decent amount of money). Fold away frame looks like an interesting choice.

    Will it handle non abusive trailriding under a 200lb dude. I will run it with some dirt jump fork, as I will reuse my 20mm wheelset..
    Don't know. We only do old bikes here.
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    Quote Originally Posted by muddybuddy
    I've never been one to pick apart other people's bikes, but I have to say, that caliper mount looks a little scary. and in reference to the brace, most of the play in the AMP forks should be in the linkages so it doesn't seem that the brace would help, but if it works for you, what do I know.
    The front disc adapter works fine, its not pretty but I was able to lift the back end up with the front brake numerous times without issues. Its not a downhill bike unless I have a death wish on a Slingshot.

    I agreed that most of the flex come from the linkages on AMP forks but you can't brace the linkages so you can only brace the legs to improve the rigidity. You have to look beyond that brake booster to think it only fuction one way as it also function as a arch between the two fork legs to brace the two together therefore increase rigidity. I though most Vintage guys can see right away what it is as pretty much all vintage suspension forks have a bolt on brace on the legs and as I recalled there was a pretty good healthy aftermarket fork brace segment during the 90's for suspension forks.

    I only wish I can find a thinker material for the brace then the Salsa booster but there is no way that the logic of bracing two fork legs to increase rigidity is flaw (Magura forks even have two arch/brace front and back). Why not try it on your AMP forks and see?

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    This isn't the right place for this but...

    Quote Originally Posted by fjyang
    The front disc adapter works fine, its not pretty but I was able to lift the back end up with the front brake numerous times without issues. Its not a downhill bike unless I have a death wish on a Slingshot.

    I agreed that most of the flex come from the linkages on AMP forks but you can't brace the linkages so you can only brace the legs to improve the rigidity. You have to look beyond that brake booster to think it only fuction one way as it also function as a arch between the two fork legs to brace the two together therefore increase rigidity. I though most Vintage guys can see right away what it is as pretty much all vintage suspension forks have a bolt on brace on the legs and as I recalled there was a pretty good healthy aftermarket fork brace segment during the 90's for suspension forks.

    I only wish I can find a thinker material for the brace then the Salsa booster but there is no way that the logic of bracing two fork legs to increase rigidity is flaw (Magura forks even have two arch/brace front and back). Why not try it on your AMP forks and see?
    Again, if it works for you great. But, if you look at it logically, the brace on a telescoping fork serves two purposes. 1) To prevent the fork legs from moving up and down independently and to maintain a single rigid structure between the two legs. a problem that the AMP doesn't have. and 2) To prevent the legs from pushing out during braking when using rim brakes. Since you are using disc brakes this also does not apply.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rumpfy
    Don't know. We only do old bikes here.
    Let me rephrase it then - how sturdy and trail worthy was the old Slingshot - was it an XC race machine, or could it run all over the mountain given the opportunity?

    What was the typical failure mode, if it ever failed - pivot? Cable? Chainstays?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Curmy
    Let me rephrase it then - how sturdy and trail worthy was the old Slingshot - was it an XC race machine, or could it run all over the mountain given the opportunity?

    What was the typical failure mode, if it ever failed - pivot? Cable? Chainstays?

    Its odd that in this official Slingshot thread with all the sling owners out there, no one is willing to give potential Slingshot owner some feedback.

    My cousin owns a current Fold-Tech model and he have nothing but positive things to say about its handling and did not experiance much flex that was the trademark of the 90's frames. I have the first generation single boom tube frame and its still bombing trails with it when the chance arise. I have never heard a Slingshot cable snap or break nor the flexboard so in terms of reliability or durability, it should not be a concern especially if you're buying a new current frame.

    Slingshots has been and probably always will be a XC bike. I would not use a Slingshot to do drop and stunts or all mountain like you stated. The flex board was invented to provide some give/flex before suspension fork was even use on mtb bikes. Sling design will take the edge off but purely from comfort standpoint, a good modern suspension seatpost or Cane Creek Thudbuster will provide as good or better comfort then the flex board can. But the main advantage of slingshot IMO is during climbing were the cable/spring combo will give an edge/boost if you will, that feel like no other frame on the market.

    Slingshots are a acquired tast, some suggest you to acclimate to them just the way they are or do what I did and modified the bike to fit your riding style and needs. Once you find that comfort zone between you and what ever Slingshot model you choose, it will give you a one of a kind ride and a on the edge feeling (good or bad) that no other bike even come close to.
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    Quote Originally Posted by fjyang
    Its odd that in this official Slingshot thread with all the sling owners out there, no one is willing to give potential Slingshot owner some feedback.
    Thank you!

    I am thinking about buying this frame as a travel bike that I can take with me with relative ease. I was not planning on jumping or abusing it, but as I have mentioned I am close to 200lb and may ride some rough trails, so construction gave me some pause...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Curmy
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    What was the typical failure mode, if it ever failed - pivot? Cable? Chainstays?
    In my insignificant memory, the real reasons for failing had names like Tomac, Overend and Juarez. But our hero Martin St. did his best ...

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    For failure issues. When I had my board replaced late last year I was warned about the older style spring holders. Mine is about a 94 and the spring is up near the head tube.
    The older style holder had the base and the 2 wings (the parts that are next to the spring attaching to the head tube) made up of separate pieces welded together. The newer one is one piece that is stamped into shape.

    Though I have never heard of one breaking they said they would be more comfortable replacing it. I also had my cable replaced at the same time. So the parts should still be available just give em a call.

    As for the use rough XC trails yes, jumps and bigger drops no. I do agree that a fold-tech one would be great for traveling.

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    I've actually never seen or heard of a failed Slingshot.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rumpfy
    I've actually never seen or heard of a failed Slingshot.

    I have, but they were used for a lot of "trialsin" type stuff by one of their sorta factory riders.

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    I've only heard of (never seen) one or two failing but they were the 1991 models and a victim of a bad batch of True Temper tubing, not a design flaw.

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    Energy Return Bicycle

    With all the questions about SlingShot durability I thought I would let you all know about the last 2 years on the "new" version provided to me by Mark Groendal the inventor of SlingShot bikes a 17" ERB:




    I'll post more on my Bog as time allows- http://cycleidaho.blogspot.com/

    Too bad the 15" version is a bit too small for me:



    Anyone less than my height of 5' 8" might like it.

    I owned and rode hard original SlingShot MTBs from 1986-1996. Mark thinks I owned more than anyone individual- 6 total. One memorable crash that defines the durability was the end of the Cooper Basin Classic in Sun Valley ID.

    Near the down hill finish I drifted off trail and straight into a tree. Although I grabbed all the brakes, braced for impact, I hit straight on just to the right of the front wheel directly on the handle bars. Fully clipped in I could not keep my momentum from hitting my helmeted head dead center of the tree. The flex board loaded up and I bounced off the tree/bike back about 8 feet landing on my rump sitting up a bit dazed.

    This must have looked very funny from the side view. A bit cartoonish in the Willy Coyote kind of way.

    In stupid SlingShot durability "Ghost ride" late night drunk testing-my sling would jump a curb none the worse for ware. (not recommended but fun to see how high it would jump on it's own)

    My weight is about 165lbs-Multiple trips to Slick Rock, Back of Behind, Porcupine Rim ledges at speed, White Rim Trail, all the rest, and yes "jumping".

    While on my first test ride on a 1984 dual cable version on the streets of Fairfax CA I missed the curb driveway transition and fell off on the sidewalk side while the bike skidded along the concrete edge of the curb grinding the cable for about 2 feet. The concrete dust wiped off without marking or cutting the cable in anyway.

    SlingShot bikes were and are raced at the National and International levels. In 1991 they were raced at the NORBA Nationals in Mt Snow VT in the Down hill with a Suspenders upside down fork from Mountain Cycles.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Howley
    I owned and rode hard original SlingShot MTBs from 1986-1996. Mark thinks I owned more than anyone individual- 6 total. One memorable crash that defines the durability was the end of the Cooper Basin Classic in Sun Valley ID.
    Hmm, downhiller from Idaho? That sounds familiar. You wouldn't happen to be the guy who rode DH for Slingshot back in the mid-90's would you? The guy that was using the Pro-Action downtube at the Traverse City NORBA back in 94'-ish?

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    Quote Originally Posted by jacdykema
    Hmm, downhiller from Idaho? That sounds familiar. You wouldn't happen to be the guy who rode DH for Slingshot back in the mid-90's would you? The guy that was using the Pro-Action downtube at the Traverse City NORBA back in 94'-ish?
    I tried that aluminum "down tube" that limited the counter flex and covered the cable. Seemed to work but limited the "feel" of the bike so most riders did not use it.

    Rider was not me. I got the sponsorships for various parts like the upside down fork from Mountian Cycle in San Luis Obispo. Traveled with the "team" (Martin Stenger, Rich Perrier, Mark Smedly, Sara Ellis and the Michigan contingent and east coast riders. (Why can't I remember these guy's manes?) Mark Smedly led the hill climb 'till the last 100 yards where Ned over took along with (Gould?) so Mark got 3rd.


    Europe was a gas. The Dutch national championships were won on SlingShot in the Jr. Class by our host family in 1991. My role was as the mechanic/manager for fun and got to see alot of the world/west/NE and privilaged to hang with Martin-a truly nice guy...Only thing I saw brake was a Suntour XC Pro headset on Martin's bike at the Durango 1990 "worlds". He lined up as NORBA #10 but DNF due to the bottom head set cup cracked around the out side of the head tube. Nice WTB GG head set but the bearing cup was much bigger than the out side diam. of the head tube. The frame was not damaged.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jacdykema
    I've only heard of (never seen) one or two failing but they were the 1991 models and a victim of a bad batch of True Temper tubing, not a design flaw.
    Yep, I had a 1991 20" model that cracked on all the spot welds for the stiffening plate in the seat tube. Other than that my '93 is still going strong and I'm over 200lbs.
    Best Slingshot survival story was zipping around a corner on some single track and discovering that 20 feet of trail was gone, dug out for road construction and dropping 8 feet onto the front wheel - the bike compressed and unloaded springing me up and back about 2 feet. I stayed upright and still clipped in.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Howley
    With all the questions about SlingShot durability I thought I would let you all know about the last 2 years on the "new" version provided to me by Mark Groendal the inventor of SlingShot bikes a 17" ERB:




    I'll post more on my Bog as time allows- http://cycleidaho.blogspot.com/

    Too bad the 15" version is a bit too small for me:



    Anyone less than my height of 5' 8" might like it.

    I owned and rode hard original SlingShot MTBs from 1986-1996. Mark thinks I owned more than anyone individual- 6 total. One memorable crash that defines the durability was the end of the Cooper Basin Classic in Sun Valley ID.

    Near the down hill finish I drifted off trail and straight into a tree. Although I grabbed all the brakes, braced for impact, I hit straight on just to the right of the front wheel directly on the handle bars. Fully clipped in I could not keep my momentum from hitting my helmeted head dead center of the tree. The flex board loaded up and I bounced off the tree/bike back about 8 feet landing on my rump sitting up a bit dazed.

    This must have looked very funny from the side view. A bit cartoonish in the Willy Coyote kind of way.

    In stupid SlingShot durability "Ghost ride" late night drunk testing-my sling would jump a curb none the worse for ware. (not recommended but fun to see how high it would jump on it's own)

    My weight is about 165lbs-Multiple trips to Slick Rock, Back of Behind, Porcupine Rim ledges at speed, White Rim Trail, all the rest, and yes "jumping".

    While on my first test ride on a 1984 dual cable version on the streets of Fairfax CA I missed the curb driveway transition and fell off on the sidewalk side while the bike skidded along the concrete edge of the curb grinding the cable for about 2 feet. The concrete dust wiped off without marking or cutting the cable in anyway.

    SlingShot bikes were and are raced at the National and International levels. In 1991 they were raced at the NORBA Nationals in Mt Snow VT in the Down hill with a Suspenders upside down fork from Mountain Cycles.

    Any Questions?

    That 15" is a good looking bike. Anybody else have one of these ERBs? Can't find much info about them anywhere....

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    I've seen a frame similar to that one, but it has two cables and springs. The springs are mounted under the bottom bracket. The small tube between the upper and the under top-tube is similar to a grove hammerhead-tube. Does anybody know how old it is?
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    Quote Originally Posted by zingel
    I've seen a frame similar to that one, but it has two cables and springs. The springs are mounted under the bottom bracket. The small tube between the upper and the under top-tube is similar to a grove hammerhead-tube. Does anybody know how old it is?
    Older than the one you have linked there. 85/86 is my guess. The double cable bikes are the earliest of the breed.
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    First of 6

    In the Spring of 1986 I assembled the first of many SlingShot bikes-and ERB MTB from Mark Groendal designs.

    First SlingShot I test rode was in Fairfax, Ca in 1985.

    Here is a photo as I was ready to install the cranks...



    And my favorite version:



    OT:
    Points awarded for identification of the other 2 Marin specific bikes...
    Photo taken the season this area was designated Wilderness-never to be ridden again-Legally...circa 1990 me thinks.
    Memory not what it was.
    And I only chose to remember the good.
    That was a good ride.

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    Here's Howley at the top of Pearl Pass in 1986.


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    Slingshot cross bike restoration - DIY board replacement

    Obviously this is not a mountain bike and it's not really the right age (1999). The point of the posting is that I am guessing the details of DIY flex board replacement will be useful to anyone else working on an older Slingshot.

    I needed a cross racing bike last year so I got this bike on Craigslist (because I think Slingshots are cool and I was seduced by the idea that the folders will go in an airline-legal case). The race photo from the Livermore cyclocross series last year shows the 'before' condition.



    Anyway, the frame was pretty beat up and the flex board had a couple of delamination cracks. After reading through this thread it became clear that a factory replacement was not happening and DIY was required. So here are the steps.

    1. Checked frame alignment in original condition. Not too good -- the wheels were laterally offset by almost a centimeter. That is, the plane of the front wheel was 1 cm to the left of the plane of the rear wheel. The head tube and seat tube did appear to be parallel.

    2. Sourced a new flex board. As already documented here, the original boards were made out of a fiberglass laminate called 'Scotchply.' Apparently 3M sold the patent and the material is now called 'Cyply.' I got a piece cut to order from a company called Red Seal Electric (redseal.com) for $31. This is the unidirectional version of Cyply. I measured the thickness of the existing board while it was still in place at 0.5 inches. The material comes in various thicknesses; I got the 0.510" thickness. This turned out to be a little thick and needed shaving down -- next time I would get the next size down at 0.495". I ordered it cut to 1.875" x 3" based on measurements of the installed board prior to removal (I worried that I would destroy the board during removal). This turned out to be the correct width, but a little too long. When I eventually extracted the existing board the length was 2.562", i.e. 2 9/16".

    3. Removed the old board. The boards are held in place with epoxy, which can be removed by heat. Thus, I stripped down the bike, removed the cable, separated the frame halves, removed the bolts that pin the board in place, and donned a respirator with organic-vapor cartridges (respirator is not optional -- burning epoxy is very bad). I then tied one end of the frame-board assembly to a workbench leg and pulled on the other end while applying a plumber's propane torch to the rear board mounting sleeve. Eventually after a bit of scorching, the epoxy softened up and the rear sleeve came out cleanly. I then tied the board off to the same place and resumed pulling while heating the front mounting sleeve. This eventually came out cleanly as well. This part of the process involved a lot of scorched paint and epoxy, so the torch technique may not have been the best way to do it. I've heard of an epoxy-removal technique in which one fills up a crock-pot slow cooker with sand, embeds the part in it, and leaves it on low for a few days -- this may be a cleaner way to degrade the epoxy and get the board out.

    In any case, here is a photo of the old board (scorched - it didn't look nearly this bad before I started with the torch) and the new board blank.



    4. Obviously the new board required some shaping. I cut it to length using a diamond tile saw and made the semicircular cutout using a diamond concrete core bit in a drill press. I then shaved down the edges of the board with a Pansar file to get the semicircular edge profile, being careful not to actually thin the board in the side-to-side direction. As noted above, I also had to shave down one of the flat sides a little bit to get it to fit.

    5. I had all the frame parts blasted and powder coated at Maas Brothers in Livermore, CA. They did a great job -- they do a lot of bike frames and understand which threads, brake mounts, etc. to mask before coating. I had them blast, but not coat, inside the board mounting sleeves -- this removed all the remaining old epoxy and cleaned up the metal gluing surface nicely.

    6. Board installation. I used System Three "Silvertip Metl-Weld" metal bonding epoxy (systemthree.com). The problem here was to get everything glued together in proper alignment. The board had a few degrees of slop in the horizontal direction within the lugs, but basically no slop in vertical or twisting directions. First, I clamped the two board mounting sleeves so that they were as exactly aligned as possible in both directions, and glued in the rear half of the flex board. This enabled me to drill the rear bolthole, assemble the rear mounting sleeve/seat tube upper lug to the rear half of the frame, and bolt everything behind the board together. This reduced the problem to aligning the front and rear halves of the frame. I put together a jig using a bunch of clamps and a metal machinist's bench that kept both axles parallel to the bench surface and allowed only side-to-side movement of the frame halves relative to each other. As expected, I couldn't get the alignment any better than the original 1-cm-to-the-left situation, so I glued it up that way, then drilled the two front boltholes.

    7. Reassembly. Needs no explanation.

    8. Decals? Obviously lacking. Does anyone have Slingshot decals?









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    wow... i had forgotten about these bikes!!!
    it seems almost imposible to find a frame for what i have seen today

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    Did a VRC'er score this one from the Grand Rapids, MI craigslist?

    The seller said it was going to CA.


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    Quote Originally Posted by J_Westy
    Did a VRC'er score this one from the Grand Rapids, MI craigslist?

    The seller said it was going to CA.

    The Illuminati is everywhere.

    Besides, I couldn't let Stef have all the fun.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rumpfy
    The Illuminati is everywhere.

    Besides, I couldn't let Stef have all the fun.
    Good for you! Looks like it has great potential.

    When I saw it pop up, I didn't call because funds wouldn't allow me to get it, but I called yesterday to check anyway... When I heard CA, I thought it might have been you.

    Congrats and give us the down low when you have it in your hands.

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    Ahh! I was in the same situation. Was planning to call on it this week when the fundage allowed but apparently even G-Rap, MI isn't beyond the reach of the Illuminati.

    Have fun with it Eric! I love the bikes you post and I love Slingshots. I'm looking forward to seeing what you do with it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by J_Westy
    Good for you! Looks like it has great potential.

    When I saw it pop up, I didn't call because funds wouldn't allow me to get it, but I called yesterday to check anyway... When I heard CA, I thought it might have been you.

    Congrats and give us the down low when you have it in your hands.

    It was indeed. Another VRC'er was so kind as to pass on the lead and the seller easy to work with. Worked out nice, though I need to choose another Sling to let go of now.

    I'll have to make some modifications to this one to put it right and make it trail ready. Soon.
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    I can't believe this is an active thread . . . has anything changed on a slingshot in the last 15 years? no innovation here. Rumpfy is the only think interesting about slingshots and I am not sure they can take credit for that . . .

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    Quote Originally Posted by mtnwing
    I can't believe this is an active thread . . . has anything changed on a slingshot in the last 15 years? no innovation here. Rumpfy is the only think interesting about slingshots and I am not sure they can take credit for that . . .
    You understand this a VRC forum?

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    Quote Originally Posted by mtnwing
    I can't believe this is an active thread . . . has anything changed on a slingshot in the last 15 years? no innovation here. Rumpfy is the only think interesting about slingshots and I am not sure they can take credit for that . . .
    Well, I think the fact that this is one of the oldest and longest threads (that is still very much active) on the VCR forum would tell one that there are a more than a few people who find Slingshots interesting.

    I would take issue with your assertion that they haven't changed but hey, if a concept works and sets you apart as a brand, why change it?

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    Lefty 29er Farmboy

    My latest bike build. I'm new to the Slingshot phenomenon but am already impressed with the ride and performance. It took a lot of work to machine the headtube (especially the internal part of the tube) to get the bonded lefty to fit.





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    Quote Originally Posted by pete_mcc
    Not sure if it's in keeping, but here's my roadie slingshot:



    Built up with as much quality American stuff as I could find over this side of the Atlantic with the exception of the campa components - well I am European!
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    Beautiful!!

    I like the roadie Slings. I would like to try those one day

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    Quote Originally Posted by russmu66
    My latest bike build. I'm new to the Slingshot phenomenon but am already impressed with the ride and performance. It took a lot of work to machine the headtube (especially the internal part of the tube) to get the bonded lefty to fit.





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    Wow Murray, I love it!

    So what are your impressions? Still impressed? If you ever need to find a good home for it, just say the word! Looks fantastic.

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    My New Fold-Tech - recently assembled and rides great!

    I'm riding it to work and partly back - about 20 miles, mixed road/dirt trails. rides very well, and a very fast machine - especially with a 48t large chainring and Ritchey speedmax Beta semi-slicks. The energy return is noticable mostly on climbs, where sometimes I feel the boost. While the frame is quite heavy (about 6.8 pounds for size 18"), the total weight is reasonable - 26.2 Pounds.
    Sorry about the quality of the pictures, I'll try to take some better ones soon.
    Ah, and customer support was excellent - actually, well above my expectations.
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    While I always like to see pictures of Slingshots, you guys do realize that this thread is in the Vintage, Retro and Classic forum right?

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    Quote Originally Posted by jacdykema
    While I always like to see pictures of Slingshots, you guys do realize that this thread is in the Vintage, Retro and Classic forum right?
    So am I correct to assume that what you're saying is don't post pictures of Slingshots less than x number of years old. Could you clarify the time frame in which my Slingshot must be manufactured to qualify for this forum please.
    Thankyou.

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    There's a sticky at the top of the page that outlines VRC. Like I said, I love seeing pictures of Slingers but new bikes tend to not get much love around here. It seems like most people draw the "vintage" line around 1994-1995.
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    Timeless Design?

    This has to be the best thread anywhere on the web for Slingshots...right or wrong, I can see how it draws in all the new owners.
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    I'd like to see them all here. Old, new, mtb, road, tri, it doesn't matter to me. It's not like you're going to see them posted anywhere else on the web...

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    Not knobby, but single....

    Okay, at the risk of annoying some, but since others seem open to it, here's one you might not have seen before. I bought it from Kirk Obee before he went to a national team camp of some sort. I do not feel at all tainted by the association--no matter what drugs I take I don't go any faster. I also have a road folder (650c wheels) that I've taken to Australia, California, etc. Pretty fun, but the frame is a bit small for me to be honest. Anyway, hope you enjoy these. My research indicates this may be the only one or possibly one of two.
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    I was looking through may garage last night and found my 84 bmx frame. I still have the instructions that go with it. Just wondering if anyone knows a values to a bike like this?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ppkabaar97
    I was looking through may garage last night and found my 84 bmx frame. I still have the instructions that go with it. Just wondering if anyone knows a values to a bike like this?


    Probably quite a bit like most things vintage bmx.

    You might try these sites if you haven't already:
    http://bmxmuseum.com/bikes/slingshot/

    http://www.vintagebmx.com/community/...topic=27033011

    Let's see some pictures!

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    Quote Originally Posted by ppkabaar97
    I was looking through may garage last night and found my 84 bmx frame. I still have the instructions that go with it. Just wondering if anyone knows a values to a bike like this?
    Do the instructions say: "If you still have this frame in 26 years you should fish for a value on a vintage mountain bike forum" ? Beacuse if they don't you might just have voided your warranty.


    Thank you, I'm here all week.

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    I don't have a Slingshot myself, (yet) but I am looking. I'll second one of the older posts in this forum about wanting to find one of the titanium or part-ti frames that were made (or at least advertised in the back of many an issue of MBA) way back in the day.

    I saw my first Slingshot at the very first mountain bike race I went to, back in 1987. It was out in the suburbs of Toronto. I did my novice race and then watched the Sport's do theirs.
    Then, when the Expert/Pro-am race started, (the term 'elite' wasn't in use yet) I saw this guy, he was bigger than most of the other guys in the field, (was this Mr. Stenger?) and he was on this bizarre looking thing like I'd never seen before. It had, like, three top-tubes, and no down tube?!?!!! I thought, w.t.f.? This guy's gonna break this thing! Or maybe he already has? There was nothing like this at the time. I thought my Rock Mountain Avalanche, with it's sloping top-tube was very radical. Even Cannondale's stood out like a sore thumb back then. But the Slingshot? Crazy!

    Watched this guy do an excellent race, finished somewhere in the top 3, I think. I went over and looked at his bike after the race. Asked where it was from....Michigan, same place as him.

    I've wanted one of these for decades now, but I've always gotten sidetracked by other bikes that I liked.

    I've had good luck finding rare things. I found 2 vintage Teledyne Titan road bikes, I used to have an ancient Merlin MTB, (with u-brake bosses) that I probably shouldn't have sold. Hell, and I'm playing guitar through an old Supro 1600 amplifier that's nearly as old as I am. (apparently the model I have is very rare)

    What do you think the chances are of my finding one of those elusive titanium Slingshots? Honestly, I'd be happy with any of the cro-moly ones. I just can't stand the current Slings. They are kinda , well, fugly. Never been a fan of aluminum.

    Anyways, I'm looking for an old Slingshot, smaller size. (I'm 5' 7")

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    Here's an article that I wrote for my local (BMW) motorcycle club newsletter.

    Last month I wrote about how bicycling affects my motorcycling and this month Iíd like to write a little bit about my newest old bicycle. Like many of you I have an affection for two-wheeled vehicles I couldnít afford when I actually had the time to use them 20 years or more ago. In my case, however, I am much more interested in collecting bicycles than motorcycles. I worked both in bike shops and in the industry as mountain biking was maturing from an obscure sport into a major market.

    As money and ideas flowed into mountain bike design, products showed great variation. This was nowhere more true than in suspension design. The period from about 1990-1995 showed a great plurality of solutions, many now totally abandoned. Though these many designs for bicycle suspension have merged towards homogeneity, it wasnít necessarily because they were the best designs.

    The same is true for prewar motorcycles. There is an incredible diversity of design when designers are first working things out. Forks, for example, utilized leading and trailing links, girder forks to name a few. None of these really held sway or seemed dominant until some meme swept them aside. How both the motorcycle and bicycle industries settled on the telescoping fork has as much to do with ease of manufacture as it does with the ultimate potential of the design.

    Designs are often selected for development because they offer good initial results. The telescopic fork offered a simple and easy way to get very good results right from the start. More complex ideas that may have had better potential, such as Brittenís girder fork design or the Hossack/BMW designs, were not chosen and developed because they didnít deliver quick initial results.

    The result of this is that the designs that were settled on early received a lot of attention and money and were essentially engineered around their shortcomings. Many, many anti-dive solutions have been employed in forks, but none of them addresses the simple problem of fork dive or stiction at the source. Nonetheless, the flawed basic design of the telescoping fork has been engineered so well by generations of folk that itís hard for better designs to approach them.

    At this point riders having grown up with flawed designs now mandate that better designed forks, which donít dive or bind under braking, now must have these flaws designed into them so that they feel ďrightĒ to riders.

    As a bicyclist I am able to afford and use many of the alternative designs from this iconic development period of 1990-1995. Indeed, these non-selected designs are very cheap now, because the vast majority of riders want bikes that use the established technology. In most cases this means telescopic front forks, and either a single pivot swingarm that actuates the shock via a rocker or a four bar linkage swingarm. Now, four bar linkages that utilize a virtual pivot point are becoming vogue. (For more information on these terms please reference Tony Foaleís books on motorcycle chassis design; they apply equally well to motorcycles and bicycles.)

    My newest purchase is a bicycle like no other--it actually has a hinge in the middle. There really isnít a name for this sort of suspension. Some people call it ďmid-suspension.Ē The story of the design of this bicycle actually has motorcycle origins. Mark Groendal, the inventor, was riding a rigid framed minibike sometime way back in the early 1970s. After a time Mark noticed that the minibike suddenly was much smoother and easier to ride. Mark soon discovered that the tube that connects the head tube to the footrest had broken. This allowed the minibike frame to flex, and the flex in the frame was useful suspension. This being the 1970s Mark probably had that realization while his parents were discussing what an awesome band 3 Dog Night is.

    This led Mark to design the Slingshot bicycle in the 1980s. Imagine a bicycle where the top tube, the tube you straddle when you stand over it, has a short section of leaf spring just an inch ahead of the seat tube. In this case the lead spring is a composite 3M material used in Corvette leaf springs. The down tube, the tube that would normally connect the head or steerer tube to the crankset or pedals, is replaced by a stainless steel cable. This allows the bicycle to flex in the middle and allows the bicycle axles to move up and down relative to one another. The majority of the spring in this case is provided by the stainless steel cable, which is held in tension. Other than this the bike is totally rigid.
    Needless to say, itís a very unusual design. It actually uses a principle called tensegrity--the bicycle is held up by the interplay of tensile and compressive forces. So, unlike a chair that we sit on, which relies just on resisting compression to hold us up, the Slingshot bicycle is more like a suspension bridge.

    I cannot think of a single design remotely like this in bicycles or motorcycles. Markís bicycle company, Greendale Bicycle, that made the Slingshot lasted for about 10 years. Demand far outstripped supply but he never managed to make more than about 1,000 bikes per year. Mark insisted that production remain in the United Sates and that his workers be paid a living wage. A series of supplier problems sank the company in 1996. A Slingshot frame and fork, no wheels or components, cost $1,300 back then, about $2,000 now. These were exclusive and sought-after bicycles. After the original Greendale Bicycle sank the name and patents were traded unhappily and the brand never recovered fully.

    Riding a Slingshot bicycle in the woods is unlike anything else. It doesnít tame rough terrain like a long travel full suspension bike does, but then again it isnít at all susceptible to wild changes in pitch like a conventional suspension bike. Itís very accurate and simply smooths out bumps rather than flattening them. It corners like nothing else. I believe the centripetal force squashes the bike a bit and its frame allows it to have some of the lateral ďtuned flexĒ that Honda talked so much about in the early 1990s.

    I donít think the Slingshot pointed the way to the future, but itís a design so unusual that itís upended much of my thinking about damping and rigidity. The Slingshot design, being the odd duck that it is, built a cult following but the bike doesnít fall into any camp that is mass marketed to. As such, when full suspension became de rugier, it appealed neither to the long travel full suspension masses nor old school full rigid purists. None the less, it has many of the best attributes of both.

    I think the Slingshot would have been superseded by other designs even if Mark had allowed production to shift to Taiwan. What the Slingshot proved is that a radically different design can succeed on its own merits. I ride this bike regularly, because for New England woods riding, for my age and experience, it suits me. I choose it regularly over bikes that cost me more money or whose designs are much more accepted. I think I may be faster on it, but I havenít timed my runs in years.

    Next year I plan to race mountain bikes in the veterans class in a local Wednesday night race series. Prizes are on the order of an ice cream cone, but the racing is real. For now, I plan to race the Slingshot. I paid out $200 for the Slingshot frame and built it using a soup of bicycle parts I keep for such affairs. These chains and wheels have graced many a frame thatís passed through my hands, but I think Iíll be keeping the Slingshot.

    I couldnít afford to buy or maintain vintage Triumphs or Moto Guzzi motorcycles and I donít really have any connections to them. I never dreamed of owning one as a young man, but I did want a Slingshot, an Ibis, a Mountain Cycle, a Bridgestone and many, many others.

    In design, I think, we always go back to our teens and 20s in some respect. Newer, arguably better, bicycles lack something of the bikes I longed for in the past. I can recall looking through the glass at a Slingshot displayed in a window. I imagine I bit my lip and gazed a long time at it. This is something no technology on earth can replace.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Puguglybonehead

    What do you think the chances are of my finding one of those elusive titanium Slingshots?
    Slim to none. I've been looking for one for years and even in the land of Slingshots (Michigan) I've never seen a picture of one, much less one for sale. Supposedly there's one of the half ti frames in some shop in the Grand Rapids but the owner won't part with it. The steel ones pop up somewhat frequently on Ebay and Craigslist. For your size you should be looking for a 16 inch frame.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jacdykema
    Slim to none. I've been looking for one for years and even in the land of Slingshots (Michigan) I've never seen a picture of one, much less one for sale. Supposedly there's one of the half ti frames in some shop in the Grand Rapids but the owner won't part with it. The steel ones pop up somewhat frequently on Ebay and Craigslist. For your size you should be looking for a 16 inch frame.
    Ah well, steel it'll be then. I honestly think the steel frames still look the sweetest anyways.

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    There's a Slingshot frame set for sale on CL here in Vancouver.....$250

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    Its four inches to big for him (and overpriced).

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    i think they made a 20 inch and 24 inch bmx i have 1 of there mountains and one of there 650 witch carries a nice 26 inch mountain wheel with 26 by 1 inch tire and converts into a nice cruzer i think they are both for sale on vancouver craigs the bmx ones are very hard to find i think 2 of the guys i work also have them and one guy we use to work with has a double cable one that alot of slingshots for a bunch of adults

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    Yup. Had a look at the ad on Van. CL. Definitely too big. Thanks for the tip, anyhow.

    Cheers!

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    Man, I've been a long time Slingshot fan and owner (4 or 5 maybe?), and I'm less than thrilled with where this is going:



    I'm ok with the "make them where it makes financial sense to" thing, but visually that just kills me. The shorty stem and headset spacer certainly don't help.

    The last generation (early to mid 90s on) of the made in USA 26" wheeled steel bike always looked real nice to me, but the mix of big tubes, little tubes, all of the crazy shapes and the mess at the top tube/seat tube/seat stay junction now, ugh.

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    Some awsome bikes in this thread...shame a lot of the pics are now gone...


    I'll post my modest rebuild just to offest that nasty looking 29'er




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    That there is well within the sweet spot of how a Slingshot should look. Well played sir.

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    Some Slingshot parts that never got any further than this. And more than likely never will.

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    Looks like you've been hanging out in Charlotte.

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    New pics

    Here are some new pics of my rebuild.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lid
    Here are some new pics of my rebuild.
    Nice looking bike. I'm curious though, why didn't you just use the front brake cable stop hole in the "stem"?
    Need: McMahon brake for roller cam mounts, Mountain Goat fork.

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    I have always found the one cable going up (in your face) over and down visually off.
    Seems like taking the long road of two curves in the cable instead of just the one.

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    Nice head badge...Just found my old one-no longer have the bike tough...

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    That bike has the decal from the shop where I started working- Advantage Cycles, Cedar Falls, IA. Iam pretty sure I saw that one back in the day around here.

    Was surprised to see that sticker on a bike in the VRC forum. Made my day. t

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    Some awsome bikes in this thread...shame a lot of the pics are now gone...


    I'll post my modest rebuild just to offest that nasty looking 29'er




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    Quote Originally Posted by Guitar Ted
    That bike has the decal from the shop where I started working- Advantage Cycles, Cedar Falls, IA. Iam pretty sure I saw that one back in the day around here.

    Was surprised to see that sticker on a bike in the VRC forum. Made my day. t


    Ted, glad to hear the history behind the Advantage sticker...was wondering about it while I was cleaning the frame. So it started out in Iowa, worked it's way to Michgan ( I think that's where the seller was), and then ended up with me on the east coast...cool.




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    Quote Originally Posted by eastcoaststeve
    Ted, glad to hear the history behind the Advantage sticker...was wondering about it while I was cleaning the frame. So it started out in Iowa, worked it's way to Michgan ( I think that's where the seller was), and then ended up with me on the east coast...cool.




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    That bike was on the Madison craigslist, I think it came from Black Earth, WI..

    Missed it by that much...

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    Quote Originally Posted by eastcoaststeve
    Ted, glad to hear the history behind the Advantage sticker...was wondering about it while I was cleaning the frame. So it started out in Iowa, worked it's way to Michgan ( I think that's where the seller was), and then ended up with me on the east coast...cool.




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    Yeah, your "before" pic shows the Cook Brothers cranks, and they were a sponsor of the shop team the year before I started working there. I know most of the guys that were on that team were running those.

    Interestingly, there was a guy that showed up at the shop where I work now last summer. He had two bikes in the back of a pick up truck and said he wanted to sell them. One was a SlingShot, but it was kitted out differently than what you have shown here. It was also from around here and was also yellow.

    That was a weird deal, cause he said the bikes were in a barn for years and they were trying to clean up some stuff. At any rate, I was suspicious, so I passed on them because something didn't feel right about the deal.

    I don't know how to explain it, but the guy was sketchy, and I get skittish about stuff that makes my "it's a stolen bike" senses tingle.

    Pretty sure it wasn't yours. I'd recall that Advantage decal anywhere. Had plenty of them on my old sleds.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jacdykema
    Slim to none. I've been looking for one for years and even in the land of Slingshots (Michigan) I've never seen a picture of one, much less one for sale. Supposedly there's one of the half ti frames in some shop in the Grand Rapids but the owner won't part with it. The steel ones pop up somewhat frequently on Ebay and Craigslist. For your size you should be looking for a 16 inch frame.
    not to add insult to injury, but when I took my slingshot in for a board resto ~ 3 years back, they were showing my stuff around the shop. The saddest item was a Ti boom tube cut in half just to check out the inside. They said it was done said too bad as it was probably worth a pretty penny......

    On another note I need to make some progress on mt rebuild this year.

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    Quote Originally Posted by esilvassy
    not to add insult to injury, but when I took my slingshot in for a board resto ~ 3 years back, they were showing my stuff around the shop. The saddest item was a Ti boom tube cut in half just to check out the inside. They said it was done said too bad as it was probably worth a pretty penny......

    On another note I need to make some progress on mt rebuild this year.
    Whoa! That is a sad image. Makes me think of an old picture of the Avro Arrow fighter jet prototypes being cut up for scrap after the contract was cancelled.

    I emailed a rep at Slingshot about titanium. He said there is no chance of anymore ti Slingshots coming out, but they are considering more high-end steel ones. Possibly Reynolds tubing.

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    Vintage Slingshot ('91? Team Issue?)

    Greetings.

    I'm a newb to this site and thought I'd post a few pics showing the Slingshot I picked up at an auction recently.

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    From what I can gather from this site and others, I think it's a '91 and possible team issue because of the block letters on the top tube. Does that seem correct? Also, can anyone tell from the photos whether the fork is the Mag 20 or Mag 21? I want to try and restore this machine to its former glory. Any comments or critique will be appreciated!

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    Mag 20.
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    My '91 had the spring mounted up at the head tube. I ran the same bottle holder, always came loose.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SpeedofLite
    Greetings.

    I'm a newb to this site and thought I'd post a few pics showing the Slingshot I picked up at an auction recently.

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    From what I can gather from this site and others, I think it's a '91 and possible team issue because of the block letters on the top tube. Does that seem correct? Also, can anyone tell from the photos whether the fork is the Mag 20 or Mag 21? I want to try and restore this machine to its former glory. Any comments or critique will be appreciated!

    Not sure, but its got the 'team bike' look with all those decals.

    Cool bike!
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    Thanks all! I picked up a Mag20 repair kit on eBay. I'll try to stay out of trouble.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SpeedofLite
    Thanks all! I picked up a Mag20 repair kit on eBay. I'll try to stay out of trouble.
    Please put knobbies on it and swap out that stem!
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    Will do! BTW, thanks big-time for starting this thread 7 years ago! There are many more Slingshots out there waiting to be resurrected.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lid
    Here are some new pics of my rebuild.
    nice giant poodle.
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    Thanks to 993rs, I now have a vintage 1991 Slingshot! I've built it up as a singlespeed. (with the hope of returning to racing, if it ever stops raining here) Using a Dimension fork, so I could go threadless and have a disc up front. (I've gotten to really like them)
    Stem, skewers and tires have changed since I took these pics.

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    Your bike looks to be a '93 or later.
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    Quote Originally Posted by YETIFIED View Post
    Your bike looks to be a '93 or later.
    Nope, it is a 91 (or 92), 93 dropped the boom tube down and increased the seat post to a 31.8. He does have the '93 boom tube sticker though.

    Edit, I take it back, I originally had a quick look and on further examination I agree it isn't a '91 as the spring would be at the bb not head tube. The post looks like it might be bigger too. Pug, what size post is that?
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    Guys, I had the Speed Merchants out of Rockford, MI build the bike in the late summer of '91. I had taken a big fall racing one of the Pando series. No mtb or mx racing that summer for me. To help the healing process I order the Slingshot. The original build was Suntour XC Pro/Syncros. Seatpost was 27.2, I think...

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    That makes sense, so it is basically a '92 model bought in late '91. I had a '91 and my buddy had a '92, I was trying to remember the differences and I believe spring placement was the main one. My 91 cracked in the seat tube and I got a '93 on warranty.

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    Yup. 27.2 seatpost. Nice size to have, as there are always plenty of options with that diameter.
    Purchasing a 92 model during 91. Now that sounds familiar. My old ride from those days was a 1988 Rocky Mountain Avalanche which I purchased in `87.
    Much as I miss my old Rocky, this Slingshot is a sweet ride. Maybe it's psychological, but it really does feel faster on the trail. I've wanted one of these since 87 and I'm definitely not disappointed. Thanks again 993rs!

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    Quote Originally Posted by MartinS View Post
    Nope, it is a 91 (or 92), 93 dropped the boom tube down and increased the seat post to a 31.8. He does have the '93 boom tube sticker though
    Yes, center scotchply to center bb was standardized at 14" for all frames from '93 on. I didn't follow anything after '94, so that could have changed. 31.8mm post, although I do have a small Slingy with a 31.6 post.
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    OK, I was wondering about maybe adding some suspension to the front of the Slingshot. I would like to choose something that works, but is still "in good taste." One-inch diameter steer tube does limit the options somewhat.

    I have my eyes on both a NOS Scott Unishock (looks like 1st-gen version) or an NOS aheadset-style Flexstem. The Flexstem is a wee bit longer than I would currently prefer, (145mm) but the front half could always be swapped out for a shorter one later. The Scott fork would soak up the big hits a bit better, but those forks did have a less-than-great reputation. (and the icky neon graphics would also clash horribly with the Slingy's nice fire engine red)

    Either one would cost me almost the same. I'm leaning towards the Flexstem, at the moment. I've always liked them. (and it wouldn't uglify the bike nearly as much as the Scott fork would) I ran a 150mm quill Flexstem on my Rocky in the early `90s and was still passing the Mag 20 users on downhill sections up till the year I sold it. (94, I think)

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    I would avoid the both like the plague. The Unishocks were horrible forks and a lot of them were recalled. Suspension forks also ruin the "sling" effect of the bikes.

    The Flexstems were pretty bad too, I would imagine the elastomer is hard as a rock by this point. I ran a Softride suspension stem on my Slingshot for a while and it was okay. Fully rigid is always better on a Slingshot but the Softride stem rode much better than the many other squishy alternatives I've tried over the years.

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    The shop I worked at back in the mid 90's sold Slingshot, always thought they were really cool
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    Well, in a few hours I will be the owner of BigShot frame serial #1. It's been freshly redone (new board and repaint) by Mr. Quiring and was built by his hands back in 2002. This early frame has non-hooded drops (so I'm assuming the non OS stays), and is non-suspension corrected, but does have a 1.125 head tube.

    Very excited, and obviously pics to come when I get my hands on it later today. This will be my 6th? Slingshot, but no room for the Farmboy anymore.

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    <a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/rmplum/5982436802/" title="CIMG3544 by rmplum, on Flickr"><img src="http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6142/5982436802_6570c66331_b.jpg" width="1024" height="768" alt="CIMG3544"></a>

    Just a longer piece of rear derailleur housing from being done....

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    Quote Originally Posted by fatchanceti View Post
    <a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/rmplum/5982436802/" title="CIMG3544 by rmplum, on Flickr"><img src="http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6142/5982436802_6570c66331_b.jpg" width="1024" height="768" alt="CIMG3544"></a>

    Just a longer piece of rear derailleur housing from being done....
    Maybe shorten up some of the house up front while you're at it.

    Cool bike though! Getting serial #0 or #1 is fun to have.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rumpfy View Post
    Maybe shorten up some of the house up front while you're at it.

    Cool bike though! Getting serial #0 or #1 is fun to have.
    Yeah, it came all pre-wired (bought frame, fork, headset, stem, bars, shifters, brakes and it was cabled up), so I just slapped my derailleurs, some wheels and pedals on at work real quick.

    That seatpost is a monster (31.8) but PO is providing a shim down to 27.2, along with an extra flex board and the top tube stickers from the repaint.

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