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    Finally!

    So I finally found a mid 90's Slingshot! I used to ride this exact frame back in the day before I stopped riding and sold my bike. I've been kicking myself ever since and have been searching high and low for a reasonably priced replacement. I finally found it on MTBR and it arrived a few weeks ago with a fresh paint job and re-fabbed board and spring.

    I'm in the process of building it up into a mixture of "Michigan Bike" with Nuke Proof bar and hubs, Velocity rims and cage (which are made in Australia but distributed in Grand Rapids) and "Period Correct Slingshot Team Bike" from when Scott Quiring and those guys were still racing for Slingshot. I was in total awe of them when I used to race. When I get this thing done it will be my dream bike from 1994. If anyone has old Syncros/Onza/Paul stuff lying around that they want to get rid of, drop me a line.

    I also know that the stickers and fork are not quite right. The frame is 93/94 (with the 1" steerer and 31.8 seat tube) but has the later stickers on it. The fork is also from the suspension adjusted slings and I don't think the frame is. If anyone has a non-suspension adjusted fork or slingsHOT stickers they don't need please drop me a line as well. Thanks!

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    oops.

    I guess i screwed up the pictures. Lets try this again.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jacdykema
    I guess i screwed up the pictures. Lets try this again.
    Nice. Can you upload a close up of the flex board? Looks great!
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    Quote Originally Posted by jacdykema
    So I finally found a mid 90's Slingshot! I used to ride this exact frame back in the day before I stopped riding and sold my bike. I've been kicking myself ever since and have been searching high and low for a reasonably priced replacement. I finally found it on MTBR and it arrived a few weeks ago with a fresh paint job and re-fabbed board and spring.

    I'm in the process of building it up into a mixture of "Michigan Bike" with Nuke Proof bar and hubs, Velocity rims and cage (which are made in Australia but distributed in Grand Rapids) and "Period Correct Slingshot Team Bike" from when Scott Quiring and those guys were still racing for Slingshot. I was in total awe of them when I used to race. When I get this thing done it will be my dream bike from 1994. If anyone has old Syncros/Onza/Paul stuff lying around that they want to get rid of, drop me a line.

    I also know that the stickers and fork are not quite right. The frame is 93/94 (with the 1" steerer and 31.8 seat tube) but has the later stickers on it. The fork is also from the suspension adjusted slings and I don't think the frame is. If anyone has a non-suspension adjusted fork or slingsHOT stickers they don't need please drop me a line as well. Thanks!
    I only have one set of stickers left. They are the correct ones as my frame is the yellow also. They could be scanned though. I would not mind a couple more sets myself.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sylvain
    Here's one in MBA Feb '92 - nice!:


    We need to get this going again...Anybody around from the old Speed Merchant shop out of Rockford MI? Mid 90's they had one of these hanging around. A guy named Popcorn Joe owned it and left it with the shop to sell. I had a standing bid, problem was the shop had no idea of where/how to contact him...anybody have one of those steel rear triangle/Ti boom-tube frames?

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    Quote Originally Posted by 993rs
    We need to get this going again...Anybody around from the old Speed Merchant shop out of Rockford MI? Mid 90's they had one of these hanging around. A guy named Popcorn Joe owned it and left it with the shop to sell. I had a standing bid, problem was the shop had no idea of where/how to contact him...anybody have one of those steel rear triangle/Ti boom-tube frames?

    No, but I'd still like one.
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    Hi Everybody~

    That pic of the Ti slingshot got me thinking that Scott Quiring would probably know what was up with that frame. I shot off an email to him the other day citing this thread- here is his response:
    While I am not 100% sure, I believe there was only one ti slingshot like that made by Mike Ausburger in around 1990 or 1991. The last place I saw that frame was at Wild Rose in Salt Lake City Utah in 1992 and the shop owner was riding it (not sure of his name though). Then starting in about '93, Mark Groendal, the inventor of the Slingshot, I believe had Titus in Arizona make several titanium slingshot road bikes and mountain bikes (The production of steel framed Slingshots still remained manufactured by Greendale Bicyle Co., in Grand Rapids Michigan, however) The Titus built Slingshots had a distinctively larger diameter boom tube when compared to the Ausburger frame, if I recall correctly. A few rear ends where made by Titus but ultimately I can't remember if they became popular or not. Marten Stenger, a top NORBA pro at that time, successfully raced a Slingshot that had a Titanium boom tube mated to a True Temper 4130 steel rear end on that national racing circuit. Respectfully Submitted--Scott Quiring
    pretty interesting history no?
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    Quote Originally Posted by felixdelrio
    Just finished my 91 Sling ...

    Tech specs:

    Frame True Temper OX
    Fork Straight leg, Cro-Moly
    Rear Shock NA
    Rims Mavic Energy M6
    Hubs Bullseye
    Spokes Stainless Steel, Sapim
    Tires Michelin Hilite Hot
    Pedals Shimano Deore XT
    Crank Grafton Joystix, Cook Bros. & Sugino chainrings
    Chain Shimano HG91
    Rear Cogs Shimano Dura Ace 13-23 7 speed cassette
    Bottom Bracket Edco Competition
    Front Derailleur Shimano Deore XT
    Rear Derailleur Shimano Deore XT
    Shifters Shimano Deore XT STI
    Handlebars Tange Prestige
    Stem Cro-Moly
    Headset Shimano Deore XT
    Brake set Shimano Deore XT
    Brake levers Shimano Deore XT SLR 2 finger
    Saddle Selle Italia Turbo Lite
    Seat Post Shimano Deore XT
    Colors Black
    Size 19" c-c
    Sweet ride you have there. Well done.
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    Refabed Flex Board and Pro Action Downtube

    Here are some pictures someone requested of the new flex board:

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    Also here are a few pictures of the Pro Action Downtube people were talking about a while ago. I can't seem to find the aluminum tube that fit between these two parts but its around somewhere. I'm sure you can all imagine a hollow aluminum tube about as long as a downtube. The red thing is an elastomer that would be placed directly below the coil spring assembly and the aluminum disk would fit around the bottom of the cable above where it meets the bottom bracket shell. The misplace aluminum tube would fit between these two parts. The elastomer is now of course, hard as a rock.

    Here's a few pictures:
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    I will try and get off my butt and post a pic of my Pro-Action downtube...........

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    Finally dust off my Slingshot project bike I'd done year and a half ago and took some pics. Its a 91 model, 19" frame with flate not slope top tube. AMP forks will add a nice touch to Slinshot lines. Thought I share the built with you all. I have seen a late 90's Slingshot frame with Lefty fork that look vary trick.
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    Dang...

    A little "modern" for my taste (a 90's frame with very new parts just seems weird to me) but shoot....That bike makes a statement for sure.

    I also found a picture of Bob Lawson's Slingshot trials bike. I believe this is the one he won the Nationals on.

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    Slingshot repaint

    Hi guys, I just picked up a slingshot frame and am looking forward to building it up once I source some more tasty parts. I have aquestion about the paint though. On the front its not too bad but the rear is quite chipped, some chainslap paint loss and some around the brakes etc. Whats the best way to go about getting this repainted? Can I unbolt the flexboard ?
    I had intended to try to patch the chips up but there are so many little chips its starting to look a bit tatty. I love the original fire engine red colour though.
    Thanks for any advice.

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    Quote Originally Posted by stevet1
    Hi guys, I just picked up a slingshot frame and am looking forward to building it up once I source some more tasty parts. I have aquestion about the paint though. On the front its not too bad but the rear is quite chipped, some chainslap paint loss and some around the brakes etc. Whats the best way to go about getting this repainted? Can I unbolt the flexboard ?
    I had intended to try to patch the chips up but there are so many little chips its starting to look a bit tatty. I love the original fire engine red colour though.
    Thanks for any advice.
    You might be able to take the bolts out, but you can't separate the board from the frame. Its epoxied in place. Remove the bolts, mask off the board.

    You'd paint this frame like you would any other bike frame beyond that.
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    Okay I guess I thought some paint finishes are 'cured' in an oven, might this not damage the epoxy or the board itself? Are some paint techniques more suitable than others? For instance I know powdercoating relies on melting the paint onto the frame by heating to around 370 F...

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    Quote Originally Posted by stevet1
    Okay I guess I thought some paint finishes are 'cured' in an oven, might this not damage the epoxy or the board itself? Are some paint techniques more suitable than others? For instance I know powdercoating relies on melting the paint onto the frame by heating to around 370 F...
    This is correct. you might have to pass on the powdercoat and go with wet paint. I'd also suggest sand or glass bead blast to remove the old paint, being careful around the scotch board.
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    Quote Originally Posted by finger51
    This is correct. you might have to pass on the powdercoat and go with wet paint. I'd also suggest sand or glass bead blast to remove the old paint, being careful around the scotch board.

    Yep, I went with wet paint on mine.
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    [QUOTE=jacdykema]A little "modern" for my taste (a 90's frame with very new parts just seems weird to me) but shoot....That bike makes a statement for sure.

    I also found a picture of Bob Lawson's Slingshot trials bike. I believe this is the one he won the Nationals on.



    No part is period correct (heck I don't and still don't know what part is available back in 91) on my Slingshot as it was my first bike put together from ground up and just gettting the fork to fit a 1" steer tube is nightmare. It might put the die hard Slingshot owners off but I was after the overall aesthetics then anything else. One of a kind ride for sure

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    [QUOTE=fjyang]
    Quote Originally Posted by jacdykema
    A little "modern" for my taste (a 90's frame with very new parts just seems weird to me) but shoot....That bike makes a statement for sure.

    I also found a picture of Bob Lawson's Slingshot trials bike. I believe this is the one he won the Nationals on.



    No part is period correct (heck I don't and still don't know what part is available back in 91) on my Slingshot as it was my first bike put together from ground up and just gettting the fork to fit a 1" steer tube is nightmare. It might put the die hard Slingshot owners off but I was after the overall aesthetics then anything else. One of a kind ride for sure

    I'm not gonna lie. That could be one of the worst looking Slingshot builds I've seen.
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    I could do worse I'm just approaching this retro thing in the opposit direction. I'm still trying to figure out ways to make it "worse"
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    Quote Originally Posted by fjyang
    I could do worse I'm just approaching this retro thing in the opposit direction. I'm still trying to figure out ways to make it "worse"
    BOTM right there!
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    Quote Originally Posted by hollister
    BOTM right there!
    Haha, no doubt.
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    Quote Originally Posted by fjyang
    I could do worse I'm just approaching this retro thing in the opposit direction. I'm still trying to figure out ways to make it "worse"
    Haha!

    I haven't figured out if I like your hideous efforts or if you should be banned forever.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rumpfy
    Haha!

    I haven't figured out if I like your hideous efforts or if you should be banned forever.
    Don't egg him on! Who knows what the next incarnation will look like!

    Just calmly explain to him the inherent coolness of old Syncros/Suntour/Continental/stuff and that Slingshots were born to have rigid forks.

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    OMG ... stop that, please.
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    I call my first Slingshot version City Slinger and the second version Bat Mo Sling. I'm working on third version, give me couple of month and I'll draft a Lefty on there and a Shockster suspension on back end haha :-)

    I do need a crash course on Vintage Parts, any links to self educate?

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    Quote Originally Posted by fjyang
    I call my first Slingshot version City Slinger and the second version Bat Mo Sling. I'm working on third version, give me couple of month and I'll draft a Lefty on there and a Shockster suspension on back end haha :-)

    I do need a crash course on Vintage Parts, any links to self educate?
    This place is as good as any. Being somewhat familiar with the brands of the 89's-90's helps but you can pick up a lot from the people on this forum, either by asking questions or just reading other people's issues, opinions, etc. It seems like many on here either own/owned/or work/worked in shops and are a great source of info. They've been an huge help to me as I get into this stuff. That's a really cool frame by the way. I always liked how the 91's looked with the flat top tube. It should treat you well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jacdykema
    and that Slingshots were born to have rigid forks.

    They really were.
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    Slingshot BigShot #1

    Finally got this prototype Slingshot 29er together. It was the first 29er Slingshot made (back around 2001). I found it last year through one of the past owners of Slingshot. The paint was pretty beat, so I had it refurbished in the same color/fade scheme as the first Slingshot I owned back in 1991. It's a geared frame, but it's currently setup with a White Ind. ENO hub for single speed use.

    Build:
    - 18" Slingshot BigShot #1
    - Slingshot 440mm Rigid disk fork
    - Kind headset
    - King front hub and White Ind. ENO rear hub laced with Sapim spokes to Stan's Arch rims.
    - Avid BB7 disks w/ XTR levers
    - XTR m952 cranks w/Boone 34t spider-less ring.
    - Groovy Luv Handles w/ ESI grips
    - Thomson Stem
    - Easton Carbon seatpost (Temporary until correct offset is determined.)
    - Fizik Gobi saddle

    It's not particularly vintage, but it is meaningful in the time line of Slingshot bikes. Now if the trails around here would just thaw and dry out...

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    Quote Originally Posted by GrumpyOne
    Finally got this prototype Slingshot 29er together. ...
    It's not particularly vintage, but it is meaningful in the time line of Slingshot bikes. Now if the trails around here would just thaw and dry out...

    jw
    REALLY LIKE! Great fade. very clean.
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    Enjoy



    Frame: 1994 Slingshot (so I'm told by the former owner, the serial ## is illegible. Year seems to meet all the 'tells' for Slingshots).
    Fork: Rock Shox / Specialized Judy FSX
    Rims: Mavic SUP Ceramic
    Hubs: XTR M910
    Skewers: Ringle
    Tires: Ritchey Megabite front / Onza Porc rear
    Pedals: Shimano M747
    Crank: XT Hyperglide - C
    Chain: Sram
    Rear Cogs: XT 8 spd
    Bottom Bracket: UN71 XT
    Front Derailleur: STX
    Rear Derailleur: XTR M900
    Shifters / Brake Levers: XTR M900
    Handlebars: Syntace
    Grips: Specialized
    Stem: Titec
    Headset: Chris King 'rasta'
    Brake set: XTR M900
    Saddle: Flite Titanium
    Seat Post: USE
    Bottle Cage: Ringle
    Place of Origin: Grand Rapids, Michigan, USA





















    Winter has decided to show its face, so it might be awhile until I can properly take this out to shred. For now, it'll look pretty in the corner of my garage. Or just about anywhere for that matter :wink:



    Nice job. I love that BW photo.
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    Thanks. The only thing left to track down is a set of decals...

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    REALLY LIKE! Great fade. very clean.
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    That is really beautiful..

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    Awesome thread. I am restoring one myself. Think its a 93. Does anyone know where to find stickers? Mine has the true temper sling shot stickers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GrumpyOne
    Thanks. The only thing left to track down is a set of decals...

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    The newer decals for your bike can be found on Ebay, it's the older style that are hard to track down.
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    Quote Originally Posted by YETIFIED
    The newer decals for your bike can be found on Ebay, it's the older style that are hard to track down.
    I think the Grumpy One would be looking for the new stickers anyhooo. The frame looks to be at least a 96/97 with the 1 1/8 steerer and the not huge seat tube. I believe they went to the newer stickers in 1995.

    Edit: It actually looks like all that dude/lady has up for Slingshot stickers now is the "S" for the head tube. All his boom tube stickers are gone. You can always come over to my house and scrape the stickers off mine though. Mine is a 94 and I need the old ones (yup, still looking).

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    Quote Originally Posted by csp
    Awesome thread. I am restoring one myself. Think its a 93. Does anyone know where to find stickers? Mine has the true temper sling shot stickers.
    Pictures please !

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    project photos (about a 93)

    So I have been working on this for a while and had the board rebuilt and re-powder coated back in december. Well I have finally gatheres most of the needed bits to get it built up.

    I have a few photos that I re-sized a bit smaller that I though they were going to be.

    frame and fork


    closeup of new flex board


    some of the bits that will make there way into the build



    I have a bit of work to do yet on the final frame prep ( remove some extra PC from few areas) I also might run into an issue with the bottom bracket as I guessed on the size, but it was gently used so if I need to get something a bit longer I can. Also a some of the items are a bit newer than the rest of the bike but a 31.8 syncros post is a bit tough to find (still looking for an older one but hey sometimes you have to bend)

    Unfortunately I now am being sent off to training for work for 2 weeks so I have to wait some more....

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    Quote Originally Posted by esilvassy
    So I have been working on this for a while and had the board rebuilt and re-powder coated back in december. Well I have finally gatheres most of the needed bits to get it built up.

    I have a few photos that I re-sized a bit smaller that I though they were going to be.

    frame and fork


    closeup of new flex board


    some of the bits that will make there way into the build



    I have a bit of work to do yet on the final frame prep ( remove some extra PC from few areas) I also might run into an issue with the bottom bracket as I guessed on the size, but it was gently used so if I need to get something a bit longer I can. Also a some of the items are a bit newer than the rest of the bike but a 31.8 syncros post is a bit tough to find (still looking for an older one but hey sometimes you have to bend)

    Unfortunately I now am being sent off to training for work for 2 weeks so I have to wait some more....
    Nice! It looks like we're going to have very similar bikes builds. Mine has the Revolutions and Syncros stem (without the hinge though) and Paul Love Levers too. The older 31.8 Syncros posts are a total pain to find. I've been looking for a year. Can't wait to see the final product!

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    Careful with that Syncros post, if it's one of the cheaply made post-buyout (pun intended) ones.

    The head came off mine after about 10 hours of riding...

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    Quote Originally Posted by esilvassy
    So I have been working on this for a while and had the board rebuilt and re-powder coated back in december. Well I have finally gatheres most of the needed bits to get it built up.

    I have a few photos that I re-sized a bit smaller that I though they were going to be.

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    I have a bit of work to do yet on the final frame prep ( remove some extra PC from few areas) I also might run into an issue with the bottom bracket as I guessed on the size, but it was gently used so if I need to get something a bit longer I can. Also a some of the items are a bit newer than the rest of the bike but a 31.8 syncros post is a bit tough to find (still looking for an older one but hey sometimes you have to bend)

    Unfortunately I now am being sent off to training for work for 2 weeks so I have to wait some more....

    Off to a good start!
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    I'm probably going to jinx myself with this but......

    I think I'm buying back the Slingshot I sold 3 years ago.

    Those of you who have seen my post over the last couple year will know that my first "real" bike was a 93 Slingshot and that I sold it in desperation around 2004 to pay for tuition. It was friggin sweet and as all "first real bikes" go, carried a sh1tton of sentimental attachments. Long story short, I loved that bike.

    I found a picture of me on the bike today from way back in the day, got all weepy and tracked down the guy who bought it's ebay account and shot him an email. I didn't expect to hear anything back but within the hour he emailed me back and said he still had it (with almost all the original parts) and he'd sell it back to me for what he paid (like 4 years ago) because he understands what its like to sell a bike with sentimental attachments and then kick yourself afterwards.

    1) This guy is the man.

    2) I'm getting back the bike that I slaved at the bike shop for 2 years to buy at age 15. The bike I rode at the Traverse City NORBA's two years in a row, the bike I rode at the Helen, GA nationals (the farthest I had been away from Michigan on my own at that point). The bike that I rode for countless beer drinking/smoking night rides at my shop's fave in town spot. The bike I rode up and down the North Country Trail on summer bike camping trips. In short, the bike I grew up on.

    3) It looks just like Rumpfy's.

    I am so friggin happy right now I want to puke (I also just got home from the bar).

    I'll post the picture that prompted the email tomorrow.

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    SlingsHOT decals

    So yeah, sorry about the drunk posting last night, momma always told me to keep my mouth shut when I'd been drinking. I was just super excited and wanted to share.

    Now down to brass tacks, I contacted Slingshot recently about the older "SlingsHOT" stickers I need to make my frame period correct. Aaron from Slingshot sent me the original template for that logo (92-95 I think). I know some people were looking for these as well so two questions....

    1) What's the best material for reproduction decals and where should I get this done? Aaron said just take it to Kinkos but I'm not sure what the best material to get it printed up on would be. Also, does anyone know what this usually costs?

    2) Does anyone need the older stickers. I'm not sure if I should just have 10 or so printed up or if I should have more done. If there is enough interest on here I will print up more and just charge the actual cost. I have no interest in gouging.

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    I am in need of a set of those stickers (well a few to future proof myself). I had my wife vectorize a scan of one that I have. I had also found a few places that I wanted to get quotes from, but have not had the time with work going crazy.

    I am in need of the ones with the black background by the way.

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    jacdykema, That's a really cool story! What state has it been hanging out in these last few years? Also, that's really cool of Aaron to do that for you and Jason for the board replacemnets. The new owners of Slingshot seem to have embrassed our passion for the old steel that they were not a part of and are going out of their way to help us. I know that in the past it wasn't always that way, so big kudos for the gang at Slingshot!
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    Quote Originally Posted by YETIFIED
    jacdykema, That's a really cool story! What state has it been hanging out in these last few years? Also, that's really cool of Aaron to do that for you and Jason for the board replacemnets. The new owners of Slingshot seem to have embrassed our passion for the old steel that they were not a part of and are going out of their way to help us. I know that in the past it wasn't always that way, so big kudos for the gang at Slingshot!
    I agree, they really seem like they are back on their game. Also, I hope this wasn't a secret or anything but Aaron also said they had a program for "loyal" Slingshot customers where they would knock off $200-$300 for the price of a new frame for long term customers. I for one think that's cool as sh!t and a sentiment that ought be commended.

    Here's some photos I was sent of the state of the old mare today. She's pretty rusty but I have to say, all the rough stuff on the frame is my fault. I beat the living crap out that bike. I treated her so bad. I don't care though. For how many memories that bike gave me it's pretty much priceless. Not to mention I had the good sense to buy a 31.8 Syncros seatpost back in the day. I cannot find another one to save my life these days.

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    Spring Sling, finally washed it and took some photos. Built in '96, the usual W. Michigan build. Sadly no longer a XC racer (neither am I), so a shorter stem and mongo risers went on.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rumpfy
    Yellow Slingshots rule.
    Is there a bring out and ride your yellow vintage Slingshot ride day in order? I've got mine.
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    Quote Originally Posted by YETIFIED
    Is there a bring out and ride your yellow vintage Slingshot ride day in order? I've got mine.
    I'm soooo down. You guys have to all come to Michigan though. Maybe we could turn it into a yellow Slingshot owners convention too. We could ride to the "factory" (they are no longer made in the US) and get Mark and Scott Q. to come lead a panel discussion. T'would be sweet.

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    Slingshot board replacement adhesive - any experiences?

    Getting ready to launch into a board replacement on an older folding frame. I think I've successfully sourced the Scotchply spring material, but am wondering about the adhesive. I am guessing it is simply high-grade epoxy, and absent any other information I'm planning to try it with the System Three epoxy I have around the house from boatbuilding, thickened with microballoons. Wondering if anyone has experience with what adhesives worked or didn't work for this purpose.

    Of course, the exciting part is going to be trying to align all four independent pieces -- the boom, the pivoting part of the seat tube, the board, and the rear end -- while the epoxy is wet. Not sure exactly how that's going to work.

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    Quote Originally Posted by balcs
    Getting ready to launch into a board replacement on an older folding frame. I think I've successfully sourced the Scotchply spring material, but am wondering about the adhesive. I am guessing it is simply high-grade epoxy, and absent any other information I'm planning to try it with the System Three epoxy I have around the house from boatbuilding, thickened with microballoons. Wondering if anyone has experience with what adhesives worked or didn't work for this purpose.

    Of course, the exciting part is going to be trying to align all four independent pieces -- the boom, the pivoting part of the seat tube, the board, and the rear end -- while the epoxy is wet. Not sure exactly how that's going to work.

    How quick does the proposed choice of epoxy cure?
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    At least 20-30 minutes of working time, depending on temperature. I don't think speed is going to be the issue, it's more the three-degrees-of-freedom geometry. The two holes that the QR goes through have to be aligned at the same time as the boom tube and the rear end are aligned, if you get what I mean. I will either have to build some kind of jig to set it all in, or possibly glue up the rear end of the board first, drill for the QR, clamp rear half of boom tube to rear subframe, then glue and align front end of board. However, I don't yet know if there's enough play in the boom tube socket to accommodate inaccuracy in installing the rear half. Anyway it should be interesting when I actually get to it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by balcs
    Getting ready to launch into a board replacement on an older folding frame. I think I've successfully sourced the Scotchply spring material, but am wondering about the adhesive. I am guessing it is simply high-grade epoxy, and absent any other information I'm planning to try it with the System Three epoxy I have around the house from boatbuilding, thickened with microballoons. Wondering if anyone has experience with what adhesives worked or didn't work for this purpose.

    Of course, the exciting part is going to be trying to align all four independent pieces -- the boom, the pivoting part of the seat tube, the board, and the rear end -- while the epoxy is wet. Not sure exactly how that's going to work.

    sounds like you are working on a folder?
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    Yeah, it is a folding cyclocross model. Circa 1999? In nice shape except that the board is starting to delaminate. It'll probably make it through the cross season, but I'm getting ready with the replacement parts. It's a great bike except for one thing -- the rear brake cable hanger is totally in the wrong place. It is much too close to the wheel to actually clear the cable yoke.

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    Hey Guys thought some of you may be interested in seeing this example of a slingshot BMX. Not mine (I wish...), found it on another web forum by chance.



    Stunning IMO.

    Also I better post a pic of my slingshot MTB as well, its been on the retrobike site so some of you may recognise it from there. I think its a 1992 model frame?


    Happy Trails!

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    Another of the 18 alleged 1992 team bikes (sibling to Rumpfy's) built with a Suntour drive train.


    (sorry if you've seen this elsewhere -- trying to clean things up and put them in their proper place )
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    Very nice.

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    Slingshot Frame Changes

    I got a 91 Slingshot and I love the way it climb but from what I read the flex in early Slingshot is typical tradmark of the frame. I know that from 91-93 design, the top tube is flat/horizontal and later 93-and up have sloping top tubes and 1-1/8" steer tube.

    My questions is did Slingshot ever update the frame design from 93 onward till the current super boom tube models like the Ripper and Fold-Tech models? If I got a 99 or 2003 slingshot would it ride stiffer/betterthen my 91 frame? or I have to get the latest frames to eliminate the flex nature? The top boom tube size looks unchange from 91 till the current models but I might be missing something.

    All help is appreciated, thanks

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    Quote Originally Posted by fjyang
    I got a 91 Slingshot and I love the way it climb but from what I read the flex in early Slingshot is typical tradmark of the frame. I know that from 91-93 design, the top tube is flat/horizontal and later 93-and up have sloping top tubes and 1-1/8" steer tube.

    My questions is did Slingshot ever update the frame design from 93 onward till the current super boom tube models like the Ripper and Fold-Tech models? If I got a 99 or 2003 slingshot would it ride stiffer/betterthen my 91 frame? or I have to get the latest frames to eliminate the flex nature? The top boom tube size looks unchange from 91 till the current models but I might be missing something.

    All help is appreciated, thanks
    The horizontal boom tube went to a a sloping boom tube in 1993. The 1 1/8" head tube came in 1995 if memory serves me correct. The seat post/tube size went from 31.8 to a smaller size at this time also.

    As far as the stiffness of the bikes goes, the 1 1/8 headtube bikes will be very slightly stiffer than the prior versions with the 1". The aluminum framed Ripper (the newest model with the super oversized boom tube) will be quite a bit stiffer than any prior Sling but all new Slingshots are made overseas now which in my opinion, stinks. Aluminum is also by nature lame.

    The flexy nature of the Slingshot however, is what makes a Slingshot fun. Its actually pretty stiff laterally and the slight amount of flex you do get, when coupled with the "sling effect" make the bike a blast on swoopy single track. If you want a "stiff" bike, then you should sell me your Slingshot and I can hook you up with a nice new mass produced aluminum Trek 820. That's my two cents.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jacdykema

    I also found a picture of Bob Lawson's Slingshot trials bike. I believe this is the one he won the Nationals on.

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    I'm pretty certain that is not Lawson's 93 National Champ Bike (as pictured). Details are fuzzy but I think his bike that year was running a home made handlebar, and those don't look like his self-made brakes either. Anyhow, I remember all of the components that he made himself around that time, and that bike does not appear to have them. It may also be an earlier build of the same frame, as there were only two of them. He also ran the anti-compression sleeve on his cable towards the end - IIRC.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fatchanceti
    I'm pretty certain that is not Lawson's 93 National Champ Bike (as pictured). Details are fuzzy but I think his bike that year was running a home made handlebar, and those don't look like his self-made brakes either. Anyhow, I remember all of the components that he made himself around that time, and that bike does not appear to have them. It may also be an earlier build of the same frame, as there were only two of them. He also ran the anti-compression sleeve on his cable towards the end - IIRC.
    I should have clarified, the FRAME he won nationals on. I guess I just usually think of the frame as pretty much equivalent to the bike. It is the frame he won on though. The other trials bike a slightly different configuration where the cable meets the frame. I used to lust after both those bikes whenever I would see them.

    That was a pretty wild parts mix he had going on in the later years though.

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    Not sure if the steel '90s era Slingshots ever went to a 1 1/8" hs. Both my '91 and '96 frames are 1". The larger seat tubes and suspension corrected geometry showed up around 1993, I think.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 993rs
    Not sure if the steel '90s era Slingshots ever went to a 1 1/8" hs. Both my '91 and '96 frames are 1". The larger seat tubes and suspension corrected geometry showed up around 1993, I think.
    They went to 1 1/8th but I was mistaken about the date. I know that by 2000 they had switched. 1998 is sticking in my head for some reason.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jacdykema
    I should have clarified, the FRAME he won nationals on. I guess I just usually think of the frame as pretty much equivalent to the bike. It is the frame he won on though. The other trials bike a slightly different configuration where the cable meets the frame. I used to lust after both those bikes whenever I would see them.

    That was a pretty wild parts mix he had going on in the later years though.
    I seem to remember him hopping around campus on a white front/black back trials bike.
    or is my memory hazy and that was his MTB... I also recall the slingsHOT decal too.

    either way it was fun to watch him doing crazy stuff. nose wheelies down the steep hills over by mc-dorm. Also Bob riding up and down the stairs (4 floors) in the dorm for practice.

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    Yeah, I think that was his 26" wheeled bike. It was still built up with a lot of trials specific parts though.

    I'm trying to remember, did he go to Northern Michigan or Michigan Tech? For some reason I thought it was one of the UP schools.

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    Michigan Tech. I shared a dorm room/apartment type thing with him for a couple of years.

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    I was up at tech starting in 92. I was the crazy guy in the ME department that wore shorts all year round if that narrows me down....
    Bob's bike was the inspiration for me searching out a slingshot last year. I have been slacking/riding too much to get very far on it but I have to get cracking soon. I have most everything aside from figuring out what length BB I need and a few random other bits, so I should have it together in its first form in the next few weeks.

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    Did the boom tube change in size or design from early 90's to the current models of Ripper? I even read somewhere some early 2000 frames have aluminum boom tube and steel rear ends?

    I just want to confirm that if the boom tube deisgn didn't change beside the slopping orientation then the only difference are the 1" to 1-1/8" head tube size from 91 to the current Ripper and Folt-Tech.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 993rs
    Not sure if the steel '90s era Slingshots ever went to a 1 1/8" hs. Both my '91 and '96 frames are 1". The larger seat tubes and suspension corrected geometry showed up around 1993, I think.
    '93 marked the standardization of the rear triangle on all sizes. As the frame size increased so did the length of the seat, top, and head tubes. I'm not sure about the suspension correction. I have three '93 models and two have rigid Slingshot forks and the other has a Judy on it. With the bike's being set up so differently from one another, I haven't noticed whether they are corrected or not, nor have I checked.
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    The boom tube design DID change a lot. The Ripper boom is much larger, made of aluminum and has a totally different method of connecting to the seat tube. The steel rear end/aluminum bikes are the Farmboy (29er) and the Fold Tech (folding 26"). Both have a different boom tube than the older bikes and connect to the seat tube differently.

    Why do you ask?

    Quote Originally Posted by fjyang
    Did the boom tube change in size or design from early 90's to the current models of Ripper? I even read somewhere some early 2000 frames have aluminum boom tube and steel rear ends?

    I just want to confirm that if the boom tube deisgn didn't change beside the slopping orientation then the only difference are the 1" to 1-1/8" head tube size from 91 to the current Ripper and Folt-Tech.

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    My '95 ('94? '96?) Slingsnot racer.

    I suppose the title of this thread is somewhat redundant, as 99% of the folks I've known with Slingsnots used them for racing, cooing endlessly about how fast they were.

    Mine may have been fast, but not under me. It was simply comfortable to ride all day long, and it was the bike I rode in my first 12hr and 24hr races about 14 years ago. In a weak moment about ~10-11 years ago I sold the frame at the Moab fall swap meet for ~$100. I needed gas money to get home from the 24 hour race, having failed to get on the podium and as such having failed to earn a dime for the daylong effort.

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    RST 3" travel Mozo fork, coil/elastomer and stunningly plush for the era.
    Full Paul red ano grouppo--409 front and Powerglide rear ders, Love levers, Stoplight cantis with Moon Unit up front, Crosstop out back, Fhub, and ultra rare bolt-on skewers.
    King 1" red nothreadset.
    Tamer carbon rigid post.
    T-Gear crank, hard ano rings, split saddle (ouch), alu bar, and ti bb.
    Gore Ride-On cables.
    SPIN rear wheel and WTB primal raptor tires.
    Sun CR17A front rim.
    Original Grip Shift X-Ray 8 spd with 'Scooterized' dual springs.
    Willits 135mm x zero rise ti 1" stem. Wes called it a 'mutant' riding position. Looking back I cannot disagree, not just because of the obscene saddle to bar drop, but the narrow unswept bars. Oi.
    Oh yeah, and those deadly Bebops... I could hop this bike like none other, especially when/if my feet actually stayed attached to the pedals.

    Of all the components listed above, the only part I've managed to hold onto are the red Crosstops, and only the one set.

    Great thread--I especially like the oldest twin-toptube versions. As a raw young frosh at Michigan State U in '88 I wore out my welcome at one of the close-to-campus shops, staring at the twin TT bike in the front window, and incessantly (and geekily) asking about it and pining for a demo ride as I saved my pennies. When they sold it that winter and the new single-TT models came out I was crushed, and ended up buying a Prestige-tubed Stumpy instead.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jacdykema
    The boom tube design DID change a lot. The Ripper boom is much larger, made of aluminum and has a totally different method of connecting to the seat tube. The steel rear end/aluminum bikes are the Farmboy (29er) and the Fold Tech (folding 26"). Both have a different boom tube than the older bikes and connect to the seat tube differently.

    Why do you ask?

    I understand that the current Ripper and Fold-Tech have vary different boom tubes, I ask because i want to know if Slingshot made any frame updates from 91 (first year of the single boom tube deisgn) to the time they introduce the Ripper/Fold-Tech models, besides the 1-1/8" head tube change and sloping top tubes.

    If I got a late 90's frame would the boom tube be beefier then my 91? From picturs that I have seem they're look to be the same size. If 91-2002 frames all rides pretty much the same then I won't bother with older style frames to improve the ride and jump directly to a Ripper if I feel the need.

    I love the way it climb and the inch worm effect is no bull, best hard tail for cimbing IMO but I'm not quite use to the front end beeing so noodlely.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fjyang
    If I got a late 90's frame would the boom tube be beefier then my 91?
    No.

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    here is a photo showing a very late model all-steel frame. You can see how it's top tube compares to the current Ripper and Farm Boy's. Not sure if that helps with what you are looking for or not...

    <a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/rmplum/279580038/" title="Slingshots2 by rmplum, on Flickr"><img src="http://farm1.static.flickr.com/119/279580038_c9d760a17e_b.jpg" width="968" height="1024" alt="Slingshots2" /></a>

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    Quote Originally Posted by mikesee
    I suppose the title of this thread is somewhat redundant, as 99% of the folks I've known with Slingsnots used them for racing, cooing endlessly about how fast they were.

    Mine may have been fast, but not under me. It was simply comfortable to ride all day long, and it was the bike I rode in my first 12hr and 24hr races about 14 years ago. In a weak moment about ~10-11 years ago I sold the frame at the Moab fall swap meet for ~$100. I needed gas money to get home from the 24 hour race, having failed to get on the podium and as such having failed to earn a dime for the daylong effort.



    Slingshot cromo frame
    RST 3" travel Mozo fork, coil/elastomer and stunningly plush for the era.
    Full Paul red ano grouppo--409 front and Powerglide rear ders, Love levers, Stoplight cantis with Moon Unit up front, Crosstop out back, Fhub, and ultra rare bolt-on skewers.
    King 1" red nothreadset.
    Tamer carbon rigid post.
    T-Gear crank, hard ano rings, split saddle (ouch), alu bar, and ti bb.
    Gore Ride-On cables.
    SPIN rear wheel and WTB primal raptor tires.
    Sun CR17A front rim.
    Original Grip Shift X-Ray 8 spd with 'Scooterized' dual springs.
    Willits 135mm x zero rise ti 1" stem. Wes called it a 'mutant' riding position. Looking back I cannot disagree, not just because of the obscene saddle to bar drop, but the narrow unswept bars. Oi.
    Oh yeah, and those deadly Bebops... I could hop this bike like none other, especially when/if my feet actually stayed attached to the pedals.

    Of all the components listed above, the only part I've managed to hold onto are the red Crosstops, and only the one set.

    Great thread--I especially like the oldest twin-toptube versions. As a raw young frosh at Michigan State U in '88 I wore out my welcome at one of the close-to-campus shops, staring at the twin TT bike in the front window, and incessantly (and geekily) asking about it and pining for a demo ride as I saved my pennies. When they sold it that winter and the new single-TT models came out I was crushed, and ended up buying a Prestige-tubed Stumpy instead.

    MC
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    Quote Originally Posted by fatchanceti
    here is a photo showing a very late model all-steel frame. You can see how it's top tube compares to the current Ripper and Farm Boy's. Not sure if that helps with what you are looking for or not...

    <a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/rmplum/279580038/" title="Slingshots2 by rmplum, on Flickr"><img src="http://farm1.static.flickr.com/119/279580038_c9d760a17e_b.jpg" width="968" height="1024" alt="Slingshots2" /></a>
    That's a very handsome family you have there!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rumpfy

    Slingshots are how I got started into VRC.

    Me too!

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    [B]Post Modern Slingshot Handling[/B]

    First of all I want to state the point that I know its blasphemy to treat such a vintage frame with modern parts but I guess I’m kind of guy that if you give me a 66 Mustang, I would right away put disc brakes, mag rims, low profile tires, 6 speed transmission, Recaro seats and Momo steering wheel to pimp my ride ;-) I apologized if it hurt some retrogrouches eyes after seeing this bike.

    I just want to share my experience I had with my Slingshot handling and riding wise. This 91-92 Slingshot frame is my first project bike since I got into mtb and to cut to the point I was not impress with the nervousness and noodlely nature of how the bike handles and a twitchy feedback at the bars that I lost all confidence when going into corners or tackling the trails at any descent speed. If you twist the handlebar left to right in quick successions you can literally see the top tube flex side to side. It left me such a unpleasant memory that after three rides since I put the bike together, it sat in the corner of my garage for almost two years before I come back to it while I was working on other bike project.

    I suspect few things for the handling: 1” steer tube, AMP fork, nature of the early sling frame or stem/bar set up to caused such a twitchy bike. When I clamp the front tire with my legs and twist the bars side to side, there’s almost a 1” of deflection. Some suggest replacing the Amp fork with rigid fork but after research I realized early rigid forks have small diameter tubes/stanchions that it won’t improved the handling of the bike except the retro look.

    There’s nothing I can do with 1” steer tube or nature of the frame so I tackle the fork first by getting V brake clamps from AMP but only installed a Salsa booster to increase rigidity of the fork. Then I replaced my original 120mm stem/560mm bar combo with a modern but short 90mm Deda stem and 630mm wide Syntace bar. I was amazed how much these two change affect the handling of my bike. The short stem wide bar set up slows down the steering inputs/feedbacks and the Salsa booster give about 25% more rigidity to the fork. This old shot can actually hang with my buddies on much more capable bikes now. There is still flex from the frame but the bar/stem and fork will not amplified the effect anymore. The flex is also much tone down and under control so you're not afraid to push the handling & limitation of this vintage frame compare to before. What I learn is that setup is critical, just changing one spring rate on the AMP fork impact the ride quality.

    One thing I like to mention is that even with the AMP F4 3.25” travel fork it does not seem to alter the geometry of the bike as one can see from the horizontal top boom tube. Do they have suspension corrected frames back in 91-92? Or AMP forks by nature does not alter the geometry as much as traditional telescopic forks.

    I can’t image riding the same bike with original 91 set up of 130-150mm stem with 540-560mm bars and flexi rigid fork that I seen from past articles of bike magazine. If you’re experiencing a similar issues on your Slingshots I highly recommended you to go with a 100mm or shorter stem, 600mm or longer bars and a fork brace or booster even on rigid fork to rectified the flexi nature of the older Slingshots, especially the larger frames with longer top tubes. The problem is finding retro parts that fit those dimensions. Cheers.
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    that's pretty sweet! The HOOVER definately approves
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    Quote Originally Posted by stan4bikes
    that's pretty sweet! The HOOVER defintaly approves

    You approve of the brake stiffener on the bike with disc brakes?
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    KMA Rumpfy.

    Quote Originally Posted by Rumpfy
    You approve of the brake stiffener on the bike with disc brakes?
    I was commenting on the entire build.

    He did it to stiffen the fork, dumbazz. AMP forks do have some flex to them and he thinks it helps reduce it. Maybe you've noticed most suspension forks have a built in bridge/stiffener/brace. Even if they are disc only. Besides, it barely shows.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rumpfy
    You approve of the brake stiffener on the bike with disc brakes?

    Haha Rumpfy I know you'll have something to say about my bike but appreciated your restraint knowing how hard core of a retro guy you are. Trust me, the brake booster helps! even if you put it on a vintage rigid fork. Its just a extra piece of brace to resist twisting. You can put it on when riding and take it off when taking pictures of your bike to keep it "vintage"
    Especially with Slingshots, every bit of rigidity increase the enjoyment of the ride.
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    Quote Originally Posted by stan4bikes
    I was commenting on the entire build.

    He did it to stiffen the fork, dumbazz. AMP forks do have some flex to them and he thinks it helps reduce it. Maybe you've noticed most suspension forks have a built in bridge/stiffener/brace. Even if they are disc only. Besides, it barely shows.

    Thanks for the comments HOOVER! I guess you know AMP forks pretty well. Can't agreed more that AMP fork flex a lot!! the F4 already have larger stanchions then the F3-F2's so the only thing I can do is brace it. I choose AMP cause their the only vintage era guys that still support their stuff and they still willing to replace a 1-1/8" steer tube for a 1" threaded for the older frames. I live in SoCal so sometimes I just drop by AMP office and talk with Brion who was around when AMP still buit bikes and pick up different springs or shims to fine tune my fork. Not many company still support their vintage stuff long after they stop building bikes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by fjyang
    It left me such a unpleasant memory that after three rides since I put the bike together, it sat in the corner of my garage
    You missed the point completely. It's a Slingshot. You have to acclimate to them and three rides is not enough time in the saddle. The bike is way too big for you and a 1" steerer has never been a problem on any bike. A rigid fork will make a big difference.
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    Quote Originally Posted by YETIFIED
    The bike is way too big for you
    F'real. That saddle should not be sitting on the boom tube like that. That might explain why you think such a short stem feels good on it. You need an 18".

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    Could you post a picture of the front brake mounting please. Just curious how you mounted the caliper to an AMP mount.
    Need: McMahon brake for roller cam mounts, Mountain Goat fork.

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    Quote Originally Posted by muddybuddy
    Could you post a picture of the front brake mounting please. Just curious how you mounted the caliper to an AMP mount.

    Its a home made bracket, I have to use two adapters to get the calipers to the right position, one IS 185mm and one post mount 203mm adapter. The rotor size is 180mm 7". Its nice to have bounch of adapters laying around when tackling these kinds of experiments. Rear adapter is from Specialized for its own FSR bikes of early 2000.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jacdykema
    F'real. That saddle should not be sitting on the boom tube like that. That might explain why you think such a short stem feels good on it. You need an 18".
    The saddle position moved, it should be in the middle which is how I ride. The frame is on the big side for me. At 6' tall with 32" inseam I have no problem riding it but I was piss at the previous owner who say he use to race for Slingshots told me the bike is a 19" frame. Yeah right.... its 19" to top of top tube, its 21" to top of seat tube so its a L-XL frame by current standards. The frame fit me like a what a road bike should, just that flat top tube don't have much clearance for my crown jewels ;-)

    Anybody wants to trade Slingshot frames?

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    This is a Slingshot pic I found from a guy selling Lefty Adapters on ebay and its also the dream Slingshot I like to built. I'd already have the Lefty fork, 1-1/8" adapters and lefty hub laced to Rolf Dolomite rims. I just can't find Slingshot 18" size with 1-1/8" steer tube frame for the past year or so for this project. If you have one that you're willing to part with please let me know or if you like my 91 flat top tube frame, a trade is even possible.
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    Quote Originally Posted by stan4bikes
    I was commenting on the entire build.

    He did it to stiffen the fork, dumbazz. AMP forks do have some flex to them and he thinks it helps reduce it. Maybe you've noticed most suspension forks have a built in bridge/stiffener/brace. Even if they are disc only. Besides, it barely shows.

    Yeah I read that. Its still kinda funny to me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by fjyang
    Haha Rumpfy I know you'll have something to say about my bike but appreciated your restraint knowing how hard core of a retro guy you are. Trust me, the brake booster helps! even if you put it on a vintage rigid fork. Its just a extra piece of brace to resist twisting. You can put it on when riding and take it off when taking pictures of your bike to keep it "vintage"
    Especially with Slingshots, every bit of rigidity increase the enjoyment of the ride.

    Hey, not my cup of tea, but build it how you like it.

    I will agree with others in that the frame is a size too big for you. And you're right about flex. All sorts of it on those things. Rigid forks make the overall ride of Slingshots much better IMHO.
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    Quote Originally Posted by stan4bikes
    I was commenting on the entire build.

    He did it to stiffen the fork, dumbazz. AMP forks do have some flex to them and he thinks it helps reduce it. Maybe you've noticed most suspension forks have a built in bridge/stiffener/brace. Even if they are disc only. Besides, it barely shows.

    hmmm. "KMA"? "Dumbazz"?

    not that I'm keeping tabs, but that's gotta be the rudest post I've ever seen on this forum. Slightly odd that it comes from the guy that frequently complains about snobbery and rudeness.

    That brace is designed to counter the spreading of brake posts while braking. In that particular application it sure isn't doing much of anything..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fillet-brazed
    hmmm. "KMA"? "Dumbazz"?

    not that I'm keeping tabs, but that's gotta be the rudest post I've ever seen on this forum. Slightly odd that it comes from the guy that frequently complains about snobbery and rudeness.

    That brace is designed to counter the spreading of brake posts while braking. In that particular application it sure isn't doing much of anything..
    It wasn't directed at you but if it offended you I apologize. It was out of character but sometimes stuff just builds up and you've gotta let it out. I don't think it was by any means the rudest post ever but maybe it was one of the most direct.

    I know what the brace is designed for but the OP believes it helped with his problem so I gotta go by his word. Having ridden on AMP forks I can see where it could cut out some flex.
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    What about me? You told me to kiss your ass and a dumba$$. I give you a hard time, but I don't typically call you names. So rude. My sensibilities!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rumpfy
    , but I don't typically call you names.
    well, not here in the forum.

    Stan, no need to apologize to me. I was just making an observation.

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    I thought KMA stands for "Kill Me Already" ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fillet-brazed
    well, not here in the forum.

    Stan, no need to apologize to me. I was just making an observation.
    duly noted...

    Quote Originally Posted by Rumpfy
    What about me? You told me to kiss your ass and a dumba$$. I give you a hard time, but I don't typically call you names. So rude. My sensibilities!
    No you don't call me names, you're much more subtle .

    As far as your sensibilities...let's see, what phrases come to mind.?......"sink or swim"...."we eat our young"...."learn to deal with it".... "If you don't have tough skin, the pack weeds out the weak"....."Up yours"..."f-off"............pick any 3
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fillet-brazed
    well, not here in the forum.

    Shh!
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    Quote Originally Posted by stan4bikes
    No you don't call me names, you're much more subtle

    I take pride in that.

    Quote Originally Posted by stan4bikes
    As far as your sensibilities...let's see, what phrases come to mind.?......"sink or swim"...."we eat our young"...."learn to deal with it".... "If you don't have tough skin, the pack weeds out the weak"....."Up yours"..."f-off"............pick any 3

    I'll try and toughen up.
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