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    Quote Originally Posted by ssmike
    Yep, that's it. A Dia-Compe item that would usually hang from a seat QR shaft. But since the seat slot is in front on the Salsa frame...
    I think I like the Hite-Rite look better. Interesting how the early a la carte's had a cable hanger brazed on the frame, like the one on First Flights site (1990).

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    Put the Hite-Rite on there...even if you don't use it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by datasurfer

    SM2015 is the serial number. I was also trying to gauge the correct year with this info, but have come up with no info. I can't really tell if the frame is suspension corrected or not, any ideas?

    Lastly, I can find no leads on Salsa decals from this era. The modern Salsa Bikes company was nice enough to send me out what they do still have, but all that was age appropriate was the "Made in USA" decal on the chainstay. Anyone know of any sources?

    Any help is much appreciated.

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    Your frame is most likely a '97' according to some information Ross S. sent me about one of my Salsa's which is #2526. I'm guessing the seat tube tab is for a brake cable stop due to the later production. You can email Ross S. for specific info. about your frame. He is very good about getting back in touch. P.M. me for his info.

    Decals will be very tough. Did the Salsa direct thing as well and basically got what you received accept they sent the orig. Ale Carte top tube decals in the set.
    I ended up getting a complete original set a few months ago from a local guy who had been holding on to them for years. That's plan luck...

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    Thanks for all your collective help guys. It was all very helpful. My main concern now is dating the frame to see if she originally came rigid or suspended. I am awaiting word from Ross S. to see if he has any recollection... I'll post pics when the frame is dressed up in it's new duds. I've been remiss on posting pics of some of my other vintage rigs. I'll throw them up in the gallery and associated manufacturer's threads fist chance I get. You may get a kick out of seeing some of the models you're used to viewing here, but in a size "mini". At least they take up less garage space that way...

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    Some Salsa history here:

    I believe this is one of the first frames Ross built under the "Red Bush" name prior to the creation of Salsa.

    Salsa BMX & 20" MTB

    I believe this is the 16" bike in the back ground that Ross is posing with on the MTB Hall of Fame site.

    Misc.


    And for President...

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    I will find one


    someday...
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    here is my salsa

    My first new real bike that i purchased.. I literally sold myself for this bike (medical drug study).. i was just getting out of high school.. it has been sitting in the rafters for the past 9 years.. time to rebuild it..

    serial SM423




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    Nice bike! Looking forward to seeing it completed...
    Ross was running 39cm (axle to crown race) forks on these models, just in case you were concerned about proper geometry.
    Best of luck!

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    Quote Originally Posted by salsa-luma
    Nice bike! Looking forward to seeing it completed...
    Ross was running 39cm (axle to crown race) forks on these models, just in case you were concerned about proper geometry.
    Best of luck!

    tell me more about what you mean in regards to proper geometry.. ??? this is not the stem that was sold with the frame.. or the bars.. not going to run the ones currently on the bike.. these are the original forks..

    thanks

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    Quote Originally Posted by donkeyparty
    My first new real bike that i purchased.. I literally sold myself for this bike (medical drug study).. i was just getting out of high school.. it has been sitting in the rafters for the past 9 years.. time to rebuild it..

    serial SM423

    Please, please rebuild that Salsa and put it back on the trail! Looks like a solid foundation there.

    Smart of you to kept.
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    Nice pics Luma. I take it nothing is for sale?
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    Quote Originally Posted by donkeyparty
    tell me more about what you mean in regards to proper geometry.. ??? this is not the stem that was sold with the frame.. or the bars.. not going to run the ones currently on the bike.. these are the original forks..

    thanks
    You should be good to go with the original fork. I just thought I would mention the dimensions. I have Bontrager fork like that on one of my bikes and it comes 38cm. There shouldn't be any geometry problems with what you have.
    Have fun building it...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rumpfy
    Nice pics Luma. I take it nothing is for sale?
    Thanks I wish I had more time to shoot...
    I can't comment on "For Sale" items.

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    That is a delightful colour...

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    ... mr. shafer junior




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    Quote Originally Posted by Pepperman
    Two of my Salsas...






    I think you need to sell one to me.
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    Hoping to learn a bit from the luminous minds of those present, here. Can (and will) someone please give a Salsa neophyte, like myself, a short Reader's Digest lesson of the Salsa frames to seek, the ones to ignore, the milestones of import, and everything in between to flesh it out a bit?

    I ask, as I found a couple of Salsas recently and want to know how to perceive them, and what I might expect to pay, fairly, for them. Both are complete bikes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by scooderdude
    Hoping to learn a bit from the luminous minds of those present, here. Can (and will) someone please give a Salsa neophyte, like myself, a short Reader's Digest lesson of the Salsa frames to seek, the ones to ignore, the milestones of import, and everything in between to flesh it out a bit?

    I ask, as I found a couple of Salsas recently and want to know how to perceive them, and what I might expect to pay, fairly, for them. Both are complete bikes.

    See: http://mombat.org/Salsa.htm, there were no imported Salsa's up to 1999, all were made in Petaluma , expect top dollar for old Salsa's but worth it
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    You want to ignore all Salsas. They're rubbish.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rumpfy
    You want to ignore all Salsas. They're rubbish.
    You picked a fine time to tell me...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Upchuck
    You picked a fine time to tell me...

    Whoops.

    I'll tell ya what...I'll buy it from you. Pennies on the dollar though.
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    Here's a shot of one of the two Salsas I mentioned, courtesy of a friend of a friend. I notice it has the detachable rear brake hanger thingy, and uses a Salsa (what else?) removable seat post clamp with integrated Q/R. Controls/crank appear mid 90s.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rumpfy
    Whoops.

    I'll tell ya what...I'll buy it from you. Pennies on the dollar though.
    If the rumors about your My Little Pony collection are true, we can start negotiations.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Upchuck
    If the rumors about your My Little Pony collection are true, we can start negotiations.

    Sweet. I've got the Klein of MLP's. Rare NOS stuff.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rumpfy
    Sweet. I've got the Klein of MLP's. Rare NOS stuff.
    So you're saying you're ready to give up the Rainbow Pony of questionable persuasion? Gee, I never thought you'd let that one go. What about the matching brushes and saddle?

    I hear it was made to the same scale as Androgenous Ken.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Upchuck
    So you're saying you're ready to give up the Rainbow Pony of questionable persuasion? Gee, I never thought you'd let that one go. What about the matching brushes and saddle?

    I hear it was made to the same scale as Androgenous Ken.

    Yeah, the time has come to give up 'Rainbow Pony' from the Alternative Lifestyle Stallions collection. Brushes, saddle, and that funky mouth bit (gag?) are included.


    I'm not into Barbie/Ken dolls because that would be gay.





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    Quote Originally Posted by Rumpfy
    Yeah, the time has come to give up 'Rainbow Pony' from the Alternative Lifestyle Stallions collection. Brushes, saddle, and that funky mouth bit (gag?) are included.


    I'm not into Barbie/Ken dolls because that would be gay.






    Did you just rattle all that out off the top of your head? Im hoping you had to do a little research before that post.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fillet-brazed
    Did you just rattle all that out off the top of your head? Im hoping you had to do a little research before that post.
    Committed to memory.

    Your 'Italian Tan Pony' is in the mail. You should have it soon.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rumpfy
    Committed to memory.
    don't lie

    you had to go look through your catalogs didn't you?
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    Quote Originally Posted by hollister
    don't lie

    you had to go look through your catalogs didn't you?

    Hey! I don't say sh!t when you have to break out your Bontrager catalog.
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    Better late than never...should have put this up a long time ago....
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    Nice!
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    >>Better late than never...should have put this up a long time ago....

    cursivearmy, that's super! Got any closer-up photos? What handlebar tape is that?

    Edit: of particular interest is the shifter set up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by joeadnan
    >>Better late than never...should have put this up a long time ago....

    cursivearmy, that's super! Got any closer-up photos? What handlebar tape is that?

    Edit: of particular interest is the shifter set up.

    Shifter set-up is the WTB shifter adaptors.

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    Heres something you don't see every day. The original art/mockup for the Salsa decals. The cancled postage stamp date 1982. I've had this stuff for 26 years. and a pic of my salsa #6 as it looked 26 years ago. and as it looks 26 years later.
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    I know it's a road bike but it is lovely.
    My latest that just traveled across the Atlantic to fulfill another teen dream. A 1992 La Raza, now built up with NOS 8 speed Record ti and Racing Triple and just a touch of rasta. Beautifully clean condition, now going to get used, a lot!




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    NICE!!!!. I'd like a salsa tandem to add to my collection.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pete_mcc
    I know it's a road bike but it is lovely.
    My latest that just traveled across the Atlantic to fulfill another teen dream. A 1992 La Raza, now built up with NOS 8 speed Record ti and Racing Triple and just a touch of rasta. Beautifully clean condition, now going to get used, a lot!




    Nice!

    I believe that's the Raza that kb11 lost out on.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rumpfy
    Nice!

    I believe that's the Raza that kb11 lost out on.
    I wasn't going to let this one out of my grasp. I had everything on my side: the strong £, the fact that I've been searching for a nice one for years and the fact that it's not often that you find someone willing to ship - the stars were aligned and everything was just right with this auction (and the seller was a top guy who really went out of his way to help!)

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    Wow, nice build Shes a beauty, you sure its goona fit? Looks small Thats the exact stem I had in mind also
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    Quote Originally Posted by kb11
    Thats the exact stem I had in mind also
    ok, Grandpa Ken.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kb11
    you sure its goona fit? Looks small
    Oh, it fits! But to be honest, if I was too tall I'd cut my feet off to make sure it does!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fillet-brazed
    ok, Grandpa Ken.
    I may be old but I'm wise
    "I think it is heavy and often stupid and doesn't work as well as Shimano, but I keep using it. -- NG

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    Pete, Dont know if you contacted Ross about this bike but here is what he sent me:

    This is the 14th La Raza of the original 100 frame run. When we began making those, the plan was that it would be a one time 100 frame thing…afterall who the heck was going to buy road bikes with sloping top tubes. We caught a lot of **** from some know-it-all dealers and riders about how stupid the sloping top tube was.



    This frame was built in 1993.



    All the best,

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    Quote Originally Posted by kb11
    Pete, Dont know if you contacted Ross about this bike but here is what he sent me:

    This is the 14th La Raza of the original 100 frame run. When we began making those, the plan was that it would be a one time 100 frame thing…afterall who the heck was going to buy road bikes with sloping top tubes. We caught a lot of **** from some know-it-all dealers and riders about how stupid the sloping top tube was.



    This frame was built in 1993.



    All the best,

    Ross Shafer

    Thanks so much for that, I hadn't even thought of contacting Ross. That's really cool info to know about this and makes it even more special. Thanks again for sharing that, really appreciated!

    Pete

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    salsa 'cross bike

    from the last salsa season in petaluma. '98 maybe? i forget....been meaning to take a couple snapshots for a while now.
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    Lovely!

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    Salsa Bar

    Nothing too exciting but found it in a bin of about a hundred other old bars in this interesting shop with thousands of old bike parts in San Rafael, Calif. None other this color though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sfgirlonbike
    Nothing too exciting but found it in a bin of about a hundred other old bars in this interesting shop with thousands of old bike parts in San Rafael, Calif. None other this color though.

    Recyclery.
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    Yes Eric, those bars have been there for a long time.
    Wanted: Salsa P7 or P10 1" quill stem.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joe Steel
    Nothing spectacular, but -

    One of the last Ala Cartes to come out of Petaluma. My daily driver geared bike (now with a Fox up front).

    The second one is a Moto with an Accutrax fork and WTB grease guard hubs. Exactly the way I found it.

    Cheers~
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    Whoa. I know you and your bike, the first one. Were you at Replay by the Bay, the MTBR gathering that Charlie America organized at Anthony Chabot State Park many years ago? I came up from the Los Angeles area. I'm Antoine, and rode a dark blue '98 Curtlo. I still ride that bike. Your Salsa is *****in'.

    Cheers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by salsa-luma
    Yes Eric, those bars have been there for a long time.
    eh?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vlad
    Whoa. I know you and your bike, the first one. Were you at Replay by the Bay, the MTBR gathering that Charlie America organized at Anthony Chabot State Park many years ago? I came up from the Los Angeles area. I'm Antoine, and rode a dark blue '98 Curtlo. I still ride that bike. Your Salsa is *****in'.

    Cheers.
    Vlad! I remember you from the MBTB -- You were pretty young then ;-)
    and I remember the Curtlo too. Glad to see you're still lovin' the steel. Are you all finished with school now?

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    Quote Originally Posted by sfgirlonbike
    eh?

    It means we left it there for you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rumpfy
    It means we left it there for you.
    yes sir.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rumpfy
    It means we left it there for you.
    Like 10 years ago?! Well, 5 bucks. I'm happy.

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    1995 Salsa Ala Carte

    Frame, fork, bars shifter/levers all courtesy of ebay. If I didn't have any of the other parts hanging around the garage, then their from my buddy Adam. He who works at a bikeshop and grabs orphaned vintage bikes and components for me when they are orphaned by their owners (it's great to have high friends in places! )

    It's definitely a "workingman's special" and a "rider". Nothing super special component-wise, but it all works harmoniously and the bike handles almost telepathically. Love the Bontrager composite forks as well. They dampen out the ride nicely.

    Yes, the pedals are temporary and I have some salsa decals for the stem...somewhere.
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    Nice build, now go out and get some mud on it...!
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    That orange color is awesome.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joe Steel
    Vlad! I remember you from the MBTB -- You were pretty young then ;-)
    and I remember the Curtlo too. Glad to see you're still lovin' the steel. Are you all finished with school now?

    Hey! I'm glad that somebody still remembers me. I walked out of the economics program in the second half of my junior year (long story; no complaints) in the middle of my junior year. I then worked for some years in the mortgage industry (THAT was wild), and a couple other gigs. And I still haven't found a bike that I like better than my Curtlo.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pepperman
    My Scoboni







    Wow!!! That is awesome! More pics more pics!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pepperman
    My Scoboni







    Sweet ride! I'm liking the paint. What is the serial number?
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    Quote Originally Posted by bushpig
    Wow!!! That is awesome! More pics more pics!
    +1.
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    Serial number is SM 188




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    Quote Originally Posted by Pepperman
    My Scoboni

    Oooooo.

    Very nice Sir!
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    I guess I should post the updated pic of mine while I'm here.

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    Also very nice, Sir

    Which serial number?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rumpfy
    I guess I should post the updated pic of mine while I'm here.

    That steer tube looks a little short.
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    Quote Originally Posted by salsa-luma
    That steer tube looks a little short.
    How can you see it? Or maybe you mean the head tube?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pepperman
    Also very nice, Sir

    Which serial number?

    SM218

    Just a tick newer than yours.
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    Quote Originally Posted by salsa-luma
    That steer tube looks a little short.

    It's the TT that's short on this guy. Less than 21" c to c.

    Lucky the stem is long.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rumpfy
    Lucky the stem is long.


    You got it...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rumpfy
    I guess I should post the updated pic of mine while I'm here.

    yours is peperman's red and black brother.
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    Quote Originally Posted by colker1
    yours is peperman's red and black brother.
    The builds are really similar except a few details.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rumpfy
    The builds are really similar except a few details.
    frame construction and even sizing look similar.
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    Quote Originally Posted by colker1
    frame construction and even sizing look similar.

    yeah, both are pretty darn close in frame and parts build.

    pepperman, pretty bike! That's three now?

    how are those IRD brakes?
    Last edited by Fillet-brazed; 12-08-2008 at 06:18 PM.

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    Some of Ross's handy work...







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    this is the Salsa

    Quote Originally Posted by surly357
    from the last salsa season in petaluma. '98 maybe? i forget....been meaning to take a couple snapshots for a while now.
    I desire, 59 cm if anyone sees or has one to sell, pm please

    sorry I'm a cross geek first

    wouldn't turn down an early 80s XL in poufterflage

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    Quote Originally Posted by surly357
    from the last salsa season in petaluma. '98 maybe? i forget....been meaning to take a couple snapshots for a while now.
    I thought all production in Cali was done in '96. We had a customer in Seattle who was buddies with Ross and had one of the last custom frames built there. I remember it in specific because he had it just clear-coated instead of painted. I remember him saying it was the second to last frame out of the shop. This incident had to be in '96 or earlier because I moved to PDX mid-summer '96. Is there an accurate chronology for any of these buy-outs that happened in the mid-90s?

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    Quote Originally Posted by haaki
    I desire, 59 cm if anyone sees or has one to sell, pm please

    sorry I'm a cross geek first

    wouldn't turn down an early 80s XL in poufterflage
    Are you trading or fishing?

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    more wishing than fishing

    Quote Originally Posted by sfgirlonbike
    Are you trading or fishing?
    was thinking out loud more than anything. Bikes my size seem to be few and far between


    just always wanted a Salsa CXer to go with my Ibis' Hakkas. Only thing I'd have to trade would be one of them. Don't have much else as far as vintage except some cantis and other assorted stuff.

    grew up in Sonoma County and I'm loyal to those brands and a couple of ex Salsa employees (Sean (now of Soulcraft) and Richard (now of Bear Flag Brewery) used to come to my gigs when I was a musician

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    Sounds about right to me

    Quote Originally Posted by themanmonkey
    I thought all production in Cali was done in '96. We had a customer in Seattle who was buddies with Ross and had one of the last custom frames built there. I remember it in specific because he had it just clear-coated instead of painted. I remember him saying it was the second to last frame out of the shop. This incident had to be in '96 or earlier because I moved to PDX mid-summer '96. Is there an accurate chronology for any of these buy-outs that happened in the mid-90s?
    because I went through career change move in 96-97 and Sean was just getting ready to get Soulcraft running and Richard was looking for investors in his Brew Pub. (too bad I was broke at the time)

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    Update photos of my 93 build. M900 everything except the Logic cranks and SS5 brake levers. Shifters are attached by Magura pod clamps. 25.4 lbs wet.
    Special thanks to: MrOrange, Hollister & Tapper Lew.


    Wanted: Salsa P7 or P10 1" quill stem.

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    Quote Originally Posted by salsa-luma
    Update photos of my 93 build. M900 everything except the Logic cranks and SS5 brake levers. Shifters are attached by Magura pod clamps. 25.4 lbs wet.
    Special thanks to: MrOrange, Hollister & Tapper Lew.

    Someone's been busy.

    This reincarnation is proper!
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    Oh, and nice cable hanger.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rumpfy
    Someone's been busy.

    This reincarnation is proper!
    Thanks man. M900 was your original suggestion, so it is... finally "done"!
    The addition of the matching stem required a hanger, WTB are the cleanest and it's a close match to the M900 finish.
    Wanted: Salsa P7 or P10 1" quill stem.

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    Quote Originally Posted by salsa-luma
    Update photos of my 93 build. M900 everything except the Logic cranks and SS5 brake levers. Shifters are attached by Magura pod clamps. 25.4 lbs wet.
    Special thanks to: MrOrange, Hollister & Tapper Lew.



    Brakes are Deore? I think those cable hangers are 10 years older than the frame. Cool.

    I think you are missing out on one of the very nicest parts of the M900 group - the super smooth and comfy brake levers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fillet-brazed
    Brakes are Deore? I think those cable hangers are 10 years older than the frame. Cool.

    I think you are missing out on one of the very nicest parts of the M900 group - the super smooth and comfy brake levers.
    FB- always one for details . Thanks for the pointers. You got me, yes the brakes are older (MT-62?), but they are black and look cool on the bike. The levers are not so cool, but light. They will most likely be replaced at some point. I removed the shifter pods from a perfect set of levers because I wanted options with the levers and the Magura mounts are cool. All in all I'm super happy with the bike besides those minor things.
    Wanted: Salsa P7 or P10 1" quill stem.

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    Quote Originally Posted by salsa-luma
    FB- always one for details . Thanks for the pointers. You got me, yes the brakes are older (MT-62?), but they are black and look cool on the bike. The levers are not so cool, but light. They will most likely be replaced at some point. I removed the shifter pods from a perfect set of levers because I wanted options with the levers and the Magura mounts are cool. All in all I'm super happy with the bike besides those minor things.

    well, regarding the brakes I thought maybe I was missing out on a super cool black ano version of M900 or something.

    But seriously, that M900 brake lever is one of my all time faves. YMMV.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fillet-brazed
    well, regarding the brakes I thought maybe I was missing out on a super cool black ano version of M900 or something.
    SHHHHH! It's my top secret score
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fillet-brazed
    I think you are missing out on one of the very nicest parts of the M900 group - the super smooth and comfy brake levers.
    absolutely! waay better stoppers than SS5.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fillet-brazed
    well, regarding the brakes I thought maybe I was missing out on a super cool black ano version of M900 or something.

    But seriously, that M900 brake lever is one of my all time faves. YMMV.
    even the xt from 94/95, made for canti, is wonderfull. SLR..yeah!
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    I was looking at my late-90s QBP catalogs today and noticed that they had the Ala Carte, La Raza, La Cruz in steel (Reynolds 853 and 525) at least through 2000. Does anyone know who was making them then? Were they farmed out to Asia?

    By the way for those interested Ross is making frames again kinda as Six-Nine Designs. I saw a bit of his handy work when I was visiting my buddy Keith in Oregon.

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    I understand wanting to use the Magura mounts and light SS-5 levers...but ya...M900 levers and cantis work and feel great. Damn Shimano!
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    that stem looks great on that, perfect match

    I wanna talk to you about those crank bolts though...
    looking for 20-21" P team

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    Quote Originally Posted by themanmonkey
    I was looking at my late-90s QBP catalogs today and noticed that they had the Ala Carte, La Raza, La Cruz in steel (Reynolds 853 and 525) at least through 2000. Does anyone know who was making them then? Were they farmed out to Asia?

    By the way for those interested Ross is making frames again kinda as Six-Nine Designs. I saw a bit of his handy work when I was visiting my buddy Keith in Oregon.
    Yes, Keith Anderson does fine work. You saw this one didn't you.


    Wanted: Salsa P7 or P10 1" quill stem.

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    [QUOTE=hollister]that stem looks great on thatQUOTE]

    What about the wheels?
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    Six Nine Design

    The best Sonoma County has to offer these days.
    Wanted: Salsa P7 or P10 1" quill stem.

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