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    Official Klein Picture Thread

    Amazingly...we don't have one yet.

    I'm sure there will be some amazing photos.

    Post pictures of your Klein. The rare, the unique, everything.

    Lets see it!
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    Joy.

    Let's start with something splatter . . . I mean Graffiti. Work in progress. Slow progress. Yes, this is a Klein factory paint job.
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    Ha! You all knew it was coming, so here you go. A picture of the Team Moosepoop 1996 Klein Attitude. Maybe it shouldn't be near the top of the thread (or anywhere in the thread) but here goes. This is an entirely custom paint job, used to be the pearl/yellow/red team colors, but no longer. More pics and info here. It's probably a bad idea to make any snide comments...I've got a LOT more pictures where this one came from.

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    I'm sure glad DB's Klein made it up before the Moose Klein.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rumpfy
    I'm sure glad DB's Klein made it up before the Moose Klein.

    every time i see that i cringe















    i mean, who runs avid ultimates with paul v's
    looking for 20-21" P team

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    ... and if we just ... There used to be one!

    Eric, it was in the Klein section of the manufacturers forum.
    I guess Craig and Francois thought that it didn't rank as high as Foes, Litespeed, Merlin, K2 and Zion. Hmm, is Zion a sponsor?

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    Quote Originally Posted by noslogan
    Eric, it was in the Klein section of the manufacturers forum.
    I guess Craig and Francois thought that it didn't rank as high as Foes, Litespeed, Merlin, K2 and Zion. Hmm, is Zion a sponsor?

    Honestly...I don't know. Never spent any time in the Klein forum...if they pulled it, it's because all those forums are for bikes that are still in production.


    Besides, this way we have our own thread with a gallery of the best Kleins on the net.
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    Here are a couple then..

    My '91? SSAtitude. And my '99 Mantra Pro race bike..
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    This Mantra is actually my second frame. The first frame blew a chainstay on a hangover Sunday ride that was just supposed to break up the cobwebs,......in my legs.

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    let's see what i can add... first thing should be the link to www.wundel.com and the Classic Klein gallery there http://www.wundel.com/classic1.html

    in chronological order

    1985 Mountain Klein, medium frame, XT M700, Suntour rollercams


    1993 Sea&Sky Attitude, prototype with ZipGrip seat post clamp. 21" (Large), XTR M900



    1994 Storm Pulse, ZipGrip, 20" (Medium), XTR M900



    1995 Night Storm Pulse, 21" (Large), XTR M910


    1995 Sea&Sky Adroit, 21" (Large), XTR M910



    1996 Burgundy-Blue Adroit, 21" (Large), XT M737




    1996 Ebony Black Pulse 2, 22" (Large), wild mix of parts...


    1997 Race Red Mantra Pro, 20" (Medium), XTR M950


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    ... and if we just ... Kleins from Finland

    Here's mine...currently own 2 but fortunately they're the best ones: Adroit and Adept

    1993 Rain Forest Adroit, 18" (XS), will be a custom parts spec build



    1995 Coral Reef Adept, 19" (S), XT M737




    These two I recently sold.

    1992 Horizon Attitude, 19" (S), XTR M900




    1993 Sea&Sky Attitude, 19" (S), custom parts spec



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    Built those for friends of mine.(wife and her husband of course!)
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    WANTED:89' DIAMONDBACK AXIS TEAM

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    Its not vintage, yet... But its a 2003 Klein Palomino Race which has had the Maverick linkage upgrade kit installed.


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    Mountain Klein

    After quite a while off, I'm back in action and am happy to have added two all-time favorites to my collection - first the 1985 Fat Chance I posted a while back and now this Mountain Klein! I just have seller photos for now, but will update after I get it, clean it up (here's hoping it's in good shape) and photo it...
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    Quote Originally Posted by hollister
    every time i see that i cringe















    i mean, who runs avid ultimates with paul v's
    i thought it was the sight of fluorescent painted syncros cranks. or is it the slicks? no.. the tights.
    please stop!
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    man... carsten doesn't scr#w around when it comes to Kleins.
    that's a full force team you've got there man.
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    Did you these Klein parts for sale on ebay Link. *not mine*

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    umm......

    Quote Originally Posted by uno-speedo
    Did you these Klein parts for sale on ebay Link. *not mine*
    Yeah.

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    Klein of course

    Hallo Guys

    Oh my good!!!!

    Where do you find all these nice KLEIN bikes.

    Perhaps i will find one in the future. I will have to wait.

    Mister C. for president- please!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Yours

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    Quote Originally Posted by drechsler57
    Hallo Guys

    Oh my good!!!!

    Where do you find all these nice KLEIN bikes.

    Perhaps i will find one in the future. I will have to wait.

    Mister C. for president- please!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Yours

    drechsler57


    Mate, it not that hard at all !
    I urge you to just check your warehouse and I bet you'll find dozens of Kleins there!

    And I'd vote for Mr. C too!

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    perhaps when you grow up you will find one.
    wanted:
    - older 80's merlin titanium
    - potts type I or II fork
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    Where's my meds when I REALLY need em

    Now I'm a mess,Those are the best looking Klein's and bikes I've ever seen.Man O Man the early 90's was the sh!t.I joke around always by saying no Klein is better than mine(my kids better looking than yours type of thing)and its in fact a sweet a$$ bike,but It would for sure have its hands full with the likes of some of those bad boys.I would love too have one of everything that came out of Klein between 89-96,more so 91-94..great thread.CF..

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    Quote Originally Posted by CRAZY FRED
    Now I'm a mess,Those are the best looking Klein's and bikes I've ever seen.Man O Man the early 90's was the sh!t.I joke around always by saying no Klein is better than mine(my kids better looking than yours type of thing)and its in fact a sweet a$$ bike,but It would for sure have its hands full with the likes of some of those bad boys.I would love too have one of everything that came out of Klein between 89-96,more so 91-94..great thread.CF..
    wheres the pic Fred?!
    looking for 20-21" P team

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    Quote Originally Posted by newsboymerlin
    perhaps when you grow up you will find one.
    Haha!
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    Quote Originally Posted by hollister
    wheres the pic Fred?!
    I'm working on it.......

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    Quote Originally Posted by CRAZY FRED
    Now I'm a mess,Those are the best looking Klein's..I joke around...my kids better looking than yours type of thing...I would love...great thread.CF..
    Aw Fred, you're melting my cold heart of stone. Keep it up man!

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    2001 Klein Attitude Race

    Too new for here but it's a Klein. It gets ridden alot and I like the aztec gold. It's also a budget build. I think it's a really nice bike for cheap. I'm curious. Were the 01 Kleins still made in Washington? It says it was. Trek has owned Klein since 95.
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    Saved this one from a guy who was using it as his beater bike to get back and forth to work....














    Was my dream bike BITD. I remember asking the guy at the LBS if I could touch it and when I picked it up I fell in love.

    Fast forward 18 years or so, I finally own one, granted this one's got a lot of dings, cut bars, wrong rear wheel, cracked seat post and a tiny crack at the hole in the seat post tube, but I couldn't be happier....putting it back in shape will be a pleasure.

    Can't wait to hit the single track with it.

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    Some do..

    Some Kleins break race records, others break hearts, and other just break. #BAT487 did all three. It still hurts to see this.



    P.S. Cycleshark, "they eat pingus too". Not where I come from http://img258.imageshack.us/img258/4...spreviefe0.jpg
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    yo pingu

    this one is perfect for any german collector! now they can see that no rust is inside and
    just tell them you found a way to use smaller boxes that will save postal taxes!

    greetings from the shark (they eat pingus too)

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    Here's my Gator Linear Fade Pinnacle - '93 model I think - PE5E.

    8 speed XT, 63mm Judy SL (recent rebuild of the metal cartridge) Velocity K525 rims and XTR V's.

    I think I might take it out this afternoon, seeing as I got it out....










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    Ha ha.

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    I been lookin at that

    Quote Originally Posted by Rumpfy
    Ha ha.
    It just looks weird. What it needs is aerobars.

    I think it was 2500 or 2900 a week or two ago.

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    i don;t know if this has been discussed but to what extent does Klein's paint work define their allure? (especially the 1990-95 paint)

    if kleins were only available in single colors, would they be as desireable today or just washington-made "cannondales" (to quote)?

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    Its Just About All Of It

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    i don;t know if this has been discussed but to what extent does Klein's paint work define their allure? (especially the 1990-95 paint)
    I think you hit the nail on the head with the Cannondale comparison. If each model were available in only one solid color per year I would guess the market value of Kleins would be close to 75% less. The paint is what sets them apart and makes them unique and ads some element of rareness. Finding a MC1 Adroit is easy. They're not rare by any means. Finding an MC1 Adroit in Team Storm for example is difficult. There is no difference in the bikes otherwise but the Team Storm will command 2-3x as much as a Black or Candy Red frame.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shayne
    I think you hit the nail on the head with the Cannondale comparison.
    I don't doubt that a Team Storm anything will sell for more than solid color (but I do know of a Team Storm Pulse that sold for less than some solid colors have sold. I will not mention who this person is but here's a hint: Look for Team Storms ). Same goes for other original multi-colored paints.

    However, I'll tell my little Tale of Yore and Klein Stories from the mists of time. I had been searching for a nice bike in the fall of 1989 and tried dozens, including Cannondales. I had pretty much settled on an American Comp-Lite but was still trying out high-end bikes as I ran across them. I was in a certain town that you, Shayne, might be familiar with. It starts with 'Mad' and ends in "ison" and came across a shop that sold Kleins run by a man of certain notiriety named Larry. I had heard of Kleins but didn't know much about them and I tried a solid colored bike. The bike looked nice but didn't jump out at me visually in any way, shape, or form. The visuals wasn't what I was focused on at the time. I took it for a ride and within 100-200 yards said, "This is the one." It was that simple. The decision was made.

    Yes, there is a coolness factor to them that Cannondales don't have, fat forks, etc. But for me it was the ride. I'm not saying that a Fat or a Merlin has a 'worse' ride and I had tried both of those brands, but the Klein's ride clinched it that quickly. Maybe if I had chosen a Fat City that year, I'd now be on Fatcogs ranting instead of here, but that wasn't the bike I choose. YMMV.

    Quote Originally Posted by Shayne
    Finding a MC1 Adroit is easy



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    Quote Originally Posted by Shayne
    I think you hit the nail on the head with the Cannondale comparison. If each model were available in only one solid color per year I would guess the market value of Kleins would be close to 75% less. The paint is what sets them apart and makes them unique and ads some element of rareness. Finding a MC1 Adroit is easy. They're not rare by any means. Finding an MC1 Adroit in Team Storm for example is difficult. There is no difference in the bikes otherwise but the Team Storm will command 2-3x as much as a Black or Candy Red frame.
    I totally agree.

    Although that all polished frame above does look pretty cool. The craftsmanship of those (earlier) Kleins is awfully nice and they no doubt have a ride that can back up the paint...but yeah....that paint seems to be the focal point for collectors...since they end up wall art as a result.
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    Ugh, Don't Get Me Started

    Quote Originally Posted by pinguwin
    I don't doubt that a Team Storm anything will sell for more than solid color (but I do know of a Team Storm Pulse that sold for less than some solid colors have sold. I will not mention who this person is but here's a hint: Look for Team Storms ). Same goes for other original multi-colored paints.

    Pinguwin
    That seller was a total knob! Deal was closed but he wouldn't tell me where to send the money. Then a week or so passes with me emailing and calling repeatedly and I finally give up only to talk to the new owner that very day. It should be in my garage but it is in competent and deserving hands so I can't complain too much.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shayne
    That seller was a total knob...only to talk to the new owner that very day..
    Since then I've heard a few people have issues with him. What year was that and what bike?

    Now if you notice that I did say 'of certain notoriety'. Me be smarts...I didn't say that I ordered my Klein from him, did I?

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    And About The Ride...

    Sure the ride is good or great depending on the application, but enough to justify the price??
    Its all about the looks with Kleins

    I've got 3 in the fleet right now and several others have come and gone. I'm both pro- and anti-Klein.
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    No, No

    I was refering to the Team Storm Pulse that sold ~6 months ago.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shayne
    No, no
    Oh, I get it now. Didn't hear about that juicy bit of VRC gossip. Well either way, previously mentioned shop did have some notoriety, which is why I made an assumption on who you were talking about.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rumpfy
    I totally agree.

    Although that all polished frame above does look pretty cool. The craftsmanship of those (earlier) Kleins is awfully nice and they no doubt have a ride that can back up the paint...but yeah....that paint seems to be the focal point for collectors...since they end up wall art as a result.
    hmm, dont know. if you compare those two the paint seems to be not really important

    very nice MC1 Team Storm Adroit for cheap (relatively speaking)

    http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...m=320138396225



    and a dented crappy naked Attitude for almost half of that

    http://cgi.ebay.com/Klein-Attitude-F...QQcmdZViewItem


    and, to get back on topic, a Team Storm Pinnacle, frame $100



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    I think they (the Attitude) have got a neat ride to them. Very light and precise and not harsh as you'd think.

    I'd like to find a bare one in my size for a rider. I liked that white Attitude that was on here a few years back...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Carsten
    hmm, dont know. if you compare those two the paint seems to be not really important

    very nice MC1 Team Storm Adroit for cheap (relatively speaking)

    http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...m=320138396225



    and a dented crappy naked Attitude for almost half of that

    http://cgi.ebay.com/Klein-Attitude-F...QQcmdZViewItem


    and, to get back on topic, a Team Storm Pinnacle, frame $100



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    I had my finger on the button for that Storm Adroit . . . I must be one of the few that do not really like Storm paint. I think it would have gone for alot more $$ if it did not have BIN and the seller let it run.

    That dented crappy Attitude went up partially because it was talked about on some forums? (I wonder) . . . what I know is it went for far too much.

    Nice Pulse, Nice price.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Carsten
    hmm, dont know. if you compare those two the paint seems to be not really important

    very nice MC1 Team Storm Adroit for cheap (relatively speaking)

    http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...m=320138396225

    Carsten

    Wow. That only went cheap because the BIN was pulled. Probably could have gone double that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MrOrange
    I had my finger on the button for that Storm Adroit . . . I must be one of the few that do not really like Storm paint. I think it would have gone for alot more $$ if it did not have BIN and the seller let it run.

    That dented crappy Attitude went up partially because it was talked about on some forums? (I wonder) . . . what I know is it went for far too much.

    Nice Pulse, Nice price.
    next time you see a Team Storm Adroit for $1500 just press the button, i will do the rest i even could have picked it up

    yeah, nice Pulse. but it's a Pinnacle. even nicer to have such great buddies

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    I'm not a huge fan of the storm paint but I think it could grow on me. I certainly would have bought the bike as it's an MC1 Adroit in very nice shape. It's possible that he could have gotten 2x, as Rumpfy mentioned, on BIN.

    At the very least I would have bought it to resell for a profit. There have been two Attitude that I've hesitated about that I could have made a buttload on with BIN and a private sale.

    I'm interested in a bare Attitude simply because I'm looking for one to airbrush and I don't like the idea of stripping an original paint job.

    Pinguwin

    P.S. It's morning/afternoon and we have a lively discussion going on. Does anyone here actually have a &$*$'ing job? :-)

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    Not me

    Quote Originally Posted by pinguwin
    Does anyone here actually have a &$*$'ing job? :-)
    If it hits trails it is a mountain bike. I know, I know.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pinguwin
    I'm not a huge fan of the storm paint but I think it could grow on me. I certainly would have bought the bike as it's an MC1 Adroit in very nice shape. It's possible that he could have gotten 2x, as Rumpfy mentioned, on BIN.
    For me a Storm Klein and an Adroit in particular is like "the Holy Grail". If I would have seen that (was on holiday then), I would 110% pulled the trigger. Oh well, it just gets me annoyed even thinking how cheap it went. If the auction would have been normal + Europeans allowed, the seller would have might have gotten even more, like 4000+ for the dollar is so low compared to euro right now...

    But anyway, sometimes people get lucky. I don't complain getting my Adept hybrid for $905 either... Although my Adroit cost me an arm and a leg...

    About comparing to Cannondales: they had nice paintjobs, fine welds, fat tubes and fat forks (Pepperonis) BITD as well. But they were still like normal bikes compared to Attitude & Adroit. On the other hand, I though that Rascal & Pinnacle were lame... In the early 90s I thought that Klein must have an aluminum fork, and when comparing the prices of Attitudes vs. Rascals for example, most collectors think the same.

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    Quote Originally Posted by noslogan
    If it hits trails it is a mountain bike. I know, I know.
    hmm, what size are those knobbies? i was thinking of putting some on my wannabe 29er but space is limited

    i really enjoy riding that one off the road





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    for me at least

    Quote Originally Posted by Carsten
    hmm, what size are those knobbies? i was thinking of putting some on my wannabe 29er but space is limited

    i really enjoy riding that one off the road





    Carsten
    that thing is crying for an ENO and the brakes to be pulled of

    (stop free wheeling through life! if'n it aint fixed its broke!)

    looking for 20-21" P team

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    Quote Originally Posted by Carsten
    hmm, what size are those knobbies? i was thinking of putting some on my wannabe 29er but space is limited



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    A bigger fork and probably brakes.

    Front is a Conti Twsiter Pro 37, the rea is a Kenda KWIK 30.

    The fork on the Reve is really wide and the seat stays are wide as well.

    The Lemond Filmore had a brake that was huge. I forget what that was though.

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    that thing is crying for an ENO and the brakes to be pulled of

    (stop free wheeling through life! if'n it aint fixed its broke!)

    i think i'm too old for that. last time i rode a fixie is almost 40 years ago and i did not like it but it sure would look nice and save some more weight

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    Quote Originally Posted by Archangel
    I though that Rascal & Pinnacle were lame
    Pinnacles and Rascals still have a great ride. They don't have the same value as a Al-forked Attitude/Adroit but if you want a great Klein ride without paying a buttload, buy a Rascal or Pinnacle, I have one of each. I have just as much fun riding them as the other bikes (as scandalous as that may sound). That said, I will pay more for an Attitude. With the way vintage is appreciating in value, it might not be long before a Rascal costs what an Attitude does today.

    Oh wait, that is what we would have said of the late 90's when a Gator Attitude could be had for $400 and a Strata fork for a Benjamin Franklin.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Carsten
    i think i'm too old for that. last time i rode a fixie is almost 40 years ago and i did not like it but it sure would look nice and save some more weight

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    still made of wood back then?

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    still made of wood back then?
    yeah - and the front wheel was huge and the back wheel tiny. and the crank arms were directly attached to the front hub

    actually that was a bike my dad had built up for me. i guess it had 12" or so wheels. i couldnt keep my feet on the pedals when i rode faster...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Carsten
    i think i'm too old for that. last time i rode a fixie is almost 40 years ago and i did not like it but it sure would look nice and save some more weight

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    all brakes do is slow you down
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    Quote Originally Posted by pinguwin
    Pinnacles and Rascals still have a great ride. They don't have the same value as a Al-forked Attitude/Adroit but if you want a great Klein ride without paying a buttload, buy a Rascal or Pinnacle, I have one of each. I have just as much fun riding them as the other bikes (as scandalous as that may sound). That said, I will pay more for an Attitude. With the way vintage is appreciating in value, it might not be long before a Rascal costs what an Attitude does today.

    Oh wait, that is what we would have said of the late 90's when a Gator Attitude could be had for $400 and a Strata fork for a Benjamin Franklin.

    Pinguwin

    P.S. Not that I was buying in the 90's
    A Rascal is an Attitude minus the al fork, right? The Rascal was top of the line once and was a nice bike. I think it has less value because it was comparitively less popular, didnt have the unique Chehalis (read loud) paint jobs, and there were less mountain bikers in the 80s before the 90s boom. All those things make the Rascals worth less IMO. just speculation. The Attitudes/Adroits are neatly engineered. (not a huge fan of the paint jobs though)

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    A Rascal is an Attitude minus the al fork, right? The Rascal was top of the line once and was a nice bike. I think it has less value because it was comparitively less popular, didnt have the unique Chehalis (read loud) paint jobs, and there were less mountain bikers in the 80s before the 90s boom. All those things make the Rascals worth less IMO. just speculation. The Attitudes/Adroits are neatly engineered. (not a huge fan of the paint jobs though)
    yes, Top Gun/Rascal/Fervors are MC1 Attitudes with standard 1" head set. just like the Pulse is an MC2 Attitude with 1 1/8 head set (and suspension geometry). much more convenient and the ride is the same. i see more and more Rascals (especially those with the linear fade paints) going for sums that only a few years ago bought you a nice Gator or Horizon Attitude. heck, even the Trek Pulse models went up in price and now tend to fetch more than a pre-Trek Pulse...
    Adroits were always in a different league. not really justified but obviously worth it for many people.

    the best bang for the buck these days seem to be the 94-96 Pulse frames and then the 97 and 98 Attitudes. and those are imho the best riders anyhow...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fillet-brazed
    A Rascal...didnt have the unique Chehalis (read loud) paint jobs
    Not neccesarily. There were a number of really bright stock colors for them. The one pictured below is an Adept, but it's the standard paint (called UV Tri-Tone) for the 93 Rascal. I have one such bike that I'm slowly working on and will post once finished. The second pictured is the stock paint for 1990 taken from the catalog, it's actually a brighter pink in real life than in the picture. Also, you could get the Rascal in the other colors too. So they weren't the same standard colors as the Attitudes/Adroits, but there was no doubt where they came from.

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    I was mostly talking about the 80s. And the lack of fades, bursts, rainforests, storms, and grafiti, etc.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fillet-brazed
    I was mostly talking about the 80s. And the fades, bursts, rainforests, storms, and grafiti, etc.
    Kleins seemed to have always been on the bright side, even the original Mountain Klein (see Carsten's picture above) was bright. Not overly so but it wasn't earth toned either. Available were really brilliant colored single colored bikes like a yellow or green.

    The first classic 'neon Klein' was the Pinnacle Elite which I believe came out in 1988, which was yellow/red/pink. I have an 89 with canti's but there was an Elite model with u-brakes that I'm almost certain was 88. I'll post a picture of the Pinnacle Elite in the future too. There were other bright fades as well. The 1989 Top Gun (will post a picture later), was a red/white/blue. Though after 1990 the colors really blossomed.

    Also, the Rascal isn't an 80's bike but debuted in 1990. As mentioned previously, the Top Gun was introduced in 1989 and had trademark issues and was renamed the Rascal. Attitude came out in 1990 too. Adroit in 1991.

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    The reason I thought that Rascals & Pinnacles were lame was that they had skinny CrMo forks and thinner tubes than Cannondale 3.0 series. BITD guys & gals who rode 'Dales in my home city were really looked upwards: "Ooh, he's got a Cannondale!" Even if it was a lousy M400 I had a '92 M700 with Pepperoni fork and it was so cool

    The masses didn't even know what Klein was. My riding pal had a '91 Attitude and people only commented how hideous the green/white/pink paint was...
    But now when thinking about it, the Rascal was actually a better buy compared to Attitude, at least for long-term maintaining reasons.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Archangel
    "Ooh, he's got a Cannondale!"
    For me, it was quite the opposite, we used to call Cannondales, Klein-wannabe's. When I was at races with my green/white/pink Attitude, people would always comment on it and often ask to ride it. It was a very, very hot bike that was predominantly known only through druel-stained magazine pages.

    If you said, 'The guy on the Klein Attitude', everyone at the race knew who you were talking about. Now it's true that I did have Team Moosepoop custom-painted jerseys, but I wasn't wearing silly tights. Well, not until racing season was over and it started to get colder. At that time I didn't have the penguins but I did have some really nice flowered tights. Hmmm, that would explain a lot about people who...

    At least in my area of Minnesota/Wisconsin, Kleins were very highly regarded, Pinnacles included. Cannondales were thought of as nice, decent bikes but nothing to get your undies bundled over. I did test ride Cannondales when I was looking for my first high-end bike.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pinguwin
    At least in my area of Minnesota/Wisconsin, Kleins were very highly regarded, Pinnacles included. Cannondales were thought of as nice, decent bikes but nothing to get your undies bundled over. I did test ride Cannondales when I was looking for my first high-end bike.
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    I think for my experience there were a few reasons:
    1) Cannondales were hideously expensive (compared to bike that common people bought) but Kleins even more so, so there were not many potential buyers (I come from a city of 60 000 habitants). Of course the mountain bikers knew the marque and had read it from MBA and Mountain Biking magazines.
    2) If Kleins were difficult to get in the US, guess how difficult it was in Finland - the stock was quite limited and most of it were sold in the capital area. I remember that my LBS didn't even have a Klein catalogue, just photos sent by the importer... Try to choose colors then when you only see Backfire in the photo
    Cannondales were a different story - an European HQ of Cannondale was very active and sent lots of material and the waiting times for special ordered bikes were quite short.
    3) Large diameter tubing was all the rage and Cannondales had the biggest of them all (or so it seemed). Normal non-mountainbikers who bought mountain bikes wanted their bikes to be good looking (cafe racers) but still obtainable. I guess that's why Haros and Cannondales were top sellers in the LBS where I worked in...

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    Thanks pinguwin for the link !
    So, the picture of my 1990 klein attitude !
    XS size (18", but 54cm for the level tube ! )

    First, details…(as you can touch it !)






    Classic pictures (the first picture : the cook bros crank and the original AC seatpost were missing)






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    Here's another one for the Klein fans...........Love the His & Her rides


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    Quote Originally Posted by pinguwin
    The second pictured is the stock paint for 1990 taken from the catalog, it's actually a brighter pink in real life than in the picture.
    yeah, it's full on fluorescent. i need to get to work on replacement decals for this...


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    i think the rascal/smaller headtube diameter kleins made more sense with those shocks. i;ve seen a few attitudes with headtube paint chipping from stock mag-21 arches. bummer

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    Quote Originally Posted by Carsten
    next time you see a Team Storm Adroit for $1500 just press the button, i will do the rest i even could have picked it up

    yeah, nice Pulse. but it's a Pinnacle. even nicer to have such great buddies

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    Quote Originally Posted by pinguwin
    I'm not a huge fan of the storm paint but I think it could grow on me. I certainly would have bought the bike as it's an MC1 Adroit in very nice shape. It's possible that he could have gotten 2x, as Rumpfy mentioned, on BIN.

    At the very least I would have bought it to resell for a profit. There have been two Attitude that I've hesitated about that I could have made a buttload on with BIN and a private sale.

    I'm interested in a bare Attitude simply because I'm looking for one to airbrush and I don't like the idea of stripping an original paint job.

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    P.S. It's morning/afternoon and we have a lively discussion going on. Does anyone here actually have a &$*$'ing job? :-)
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    Anyone know what this color is called?







    Not sure what year bike they came from. Looks like "gator?" under the sparkle blue. Any ideas?


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    Quote Originally Posted by eastcoaststeve
    Anyone know what this color is called?

    Blue.




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    Quote Originally Posted by eastcoaststeve
    Anyone know what this color is called?







    Not sure what year bike they came from. Looks like "gator?" under the sparkle blue. Any ideas?


    Thanks,

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    If bar has green and blue two tone fading, called SEA&SKY.
    if solid metallic blue, called CANDY BLUE.
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    Thanks. Bars appear to be solid metallic color except for where they are scratched bare. I was curious about the color because of all the green under it. Did Klein recycle parts?




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    Quote Originally Posted by eastcoaststeve
    Did Klein recycle parts?
    What is your problem aren't you familiar with pages 34-35 of the technical manual?

    Green is the undercoat. The manual has most of the Klein paint jobs with the base & second coats.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pinguwin
    What is your problem

    my email app got clever and turned that line into "WTF is your problem" ...

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    Pinguwin,

    Thanks for the link to the manual.

    I went thru pgs 34/35 and maybe I'm not as sharp as I think...still can't figure out what color the bars are.

    Maybe I'll just stick with Rumpfy's "Blue".

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    [QUOTE=eastcoaststeve]Did Klein recycle parts?


    Actually they did, especially at MC1 era.(Did not a frame only for fork and hndlebars)
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    Pinguwin,

    Thanks for the link to the manual.

    I went thru pgs 34/35 and maybe I'm not as sharp as I think...still can't figure out what color the bars are.

    Maybe I'll just stick with Rumpfy's "Blue".
    Ice Teal for instance has a Green base and a Blue top coat. But it may well be a repaint, they did not always remove the original paint. Might not even be an original Klein paint...

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    Quote Originally Posted by eastcoaststeve
    Anyone know what this color is called?




    Hey Steve, that is a 90/91 pinnacle stem in "Bright green".
    Someone has painted over it.

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    some serious competition for Pinguwin



    more pics in this cool thread over on mtb-classic.de

    http://www.mtb-news.de/forum/showthread.php?t=297627

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    Quote Originally Posted by Carsten
    some serious competition for Pinguwin



    more pics in this cool thread over on mtb-classic.de

    http://www.mtb-news.de/forum/showthread.php?t=297627

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    the bike is photoshopped under the guy.. or he is dressed for another ocasion really.
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    Quote Originally Posted by colker1
    the bike is photoshopped under the guy.. or he is dressed for another ocasion really.
    Naw.. its for real. Pink saddle,pink grips with the matching pink goggle strap.

    That guy is HARDCORE right there!!!!

    That is AWESOME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    I owe you money for that pic right there. LOL. Where do i send the money!
    Thats going to the collection for ever and ever.

    He cares about speed....LOL....that guy rules..
    Desperately searching for a klein 120mm O-rise MC1 mission control stem /handlebars or any 1 1/4 quill stem equivalent.
    EDIT- HELLOOOOOOOO......... Desperately means i will pay really,really good money for it.

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    Naw.. its for real. Pink saddle,pink grips with the matching pink goggle strap.

    That guy is HARDCORE right there!!!!

    That is AWESOME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    I owe you money for that pic right there. LOL. Where do i send the money!
    Thats going to the collection for ever and ever.

    He cares about speed....LOL....that guy rules..
    yes, he's a speedfreak...



    i can give you his paypal address

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    Quote Originally Posted by Carsten
    some serious competition for Pinguwin
    I doubt it.

    I was going to be posting some Backfire Goodness in the next few days but Carsten beat me to it but more to come soon. This is my 91 Attitude in August of 1992 at the top of Mt. Evans, CO. Twenty eight miles & 7500 feet of climbing (and the same amount down ). Think it was about 2:45 up and under an hour down. No ragging about the slicks, it was a road climbing day. A few days before that I had been on Monarch Pass near Salida, CO & in Crested Butte (Pearl Pass, 401, etc). It was my first long term trip, spending four months in Utah, New Mexico, and Colorado.

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    I doubt it.

    Pinguwin, he has got you beat big time.

    I'm a freak.
    You're a freak.

    That guy is a FREEEEEAAAAK....

    All you got is that yellow helmet and your standin a lil funny.
    We know you got the crazy moose, the fork and the pinguin tights.

    But this guy.... He's got the skin tight roadie suit, lilly white shoes covers(were talkin super lilly), Pink saddle, pink grips and the matching pink goggle strap.

    He trumped you dude.
    aaaannnddd...looking at that thread that carsten posted up,
    he also likes to take pics of guys butts.
    He's got you beat dude.

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    No, agree the picture is freakier than mine and the Mt. Evans picture isn't that odd, just that I'm not finished yet. Figured I would post a picture of an old 'Tude a bit earlier than I intended and over time, I'll regain and retain my VRC-oddity status. I too, found the butts thing disturbing. The only good thing about that photo is that he is wearing a face mask. Whoever it is, has some sense of shame, however little.

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    P.S. Maybe that Speed-Racer picture should be posted in the "Check Out This Frickin Dork!" thread?

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    Imagine that, all the tires were flat.
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    Wow, there're some incredible looking Kleins in this thread. I have wanted one since I first saw one in person at a bike shop in '93. Now that I can afford to get one, my cousin found a couple of NOS Adroit fuselages at a shop in Richmond, Vancouver. One is a '96 in blue/purple color with SL fork and the other is a '97 in koi orange color. I was just wondering if any Klein experts on here can tell me what the word fuselage stand for? Does that mean frame? Also I was wondering what year did Trek buy them out? Lastly, how much should I offer to take a couple of 10 year plus old Kleins off the owner's hands? Thanks in advance for any info.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hardguy
    Wow, there're some incredible looking Kleins in this thread. I have wanted one since I first saw one in person at a bike shop in '93. Now that I can afford to get one, my cousin found a couple of NOS Adroit fuselages at a shop in Richmond, Vancouver. One is a '96 in blue/purple color with SL fork and the other is a '97 in koi orange color. I was just wondering if any Klein experts on here can tell me what the word fuselage stand for? Does that mean frame? Also I was wondering what year did Trek buy them out? Lastly, how much should I offer to take a couple of 10 year plus old Kleins off the owner's hands? Thanks in advance for any info.
    Klein called their framesets that included frame, fork and stem/bar combo as fuselages 'cause they thought that the framesets were as efficient as aeroplane fuselages (or something like that, in short: marketing term).

    Koi Adroits were sold recently by Leucadia Cyclery for $399 so I wouldn't pay much more than that. The '96 burgundy one is a another matter, that could fetch a little bit more, especially if it's a real Adroit with 2" downtube.

    Trek bought Klein in late 1995. They couldn't affect the '96 lineup much although they killed the real Adroit and after that the Adroits were actually Attitude frames (only difference is downtube diameter). Also the MC2 stem/bar combos were all painted black in order to save costs. The 1997 model year was first where Trek influence was showing = they went to normal BBs, V-brake cable routing, no more rigid Strata/Uniklein fork, etc. etc.

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    I Had Heard That There Were Structrutal Problems

    Quote Originally Posted by Archangel
    Also the MC2 stem/bar combos were all painted black in order to save costs.
    And that after the issue was resolved they were all painted black to differentiate them from the defective MC2s
    That's what my local Klein dealer told me about the MC2 road stems. Not sure if it applies to the MTB version.
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    And that after the issue was resolved they were all painted black to differentiate them from the defective MC2s
    That's what my local Klein dealer told me about the MC2 road stems. Not sure if it applies to the MTB version.
    there are plenty of post-recall (95 and 96) road MC2s that are painted to match. e.g. all burgundyblue road MC2 are the revised version. the road MC2 were only black from 1997 on. on the MTBs they went to black somewhen in 1996. the first 1996 MTB MC2s were still painted to match burgundyblue and race red - i would "kill" for one of those.

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    Here is a picture of one of those red stems that in the Chicago Critical Mass in August.



    Don't worry Carsten, you won't have to kill as I got dibs on it.

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