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    Official John Tomac Picture Thread

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    Quote Originally Posted by kokopelli
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    The good ol Mongoose days. That bottom black and white picture is cool. I recognize Jimmy Donnel, Max Jones, of course Tomac, and the other two guys dont look familiar...

    Those bring back some good memories. Is it just me or is racing not the same anymore?? I think its just me.
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    Here are some of the one's I have...


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    from the times when races were races and not dominated by 110 pound-weighing fitfu**ers
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rumpfy
    Here are some of the one's I have...
    How steep is that hill??? Imagine pros pushing their bikes up a hill during a race... That looks like something that I would do.

    Is that race at Skyline Park in Napa by any chance?

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    No, thats a World Cup in Europe somewhere Im pretty sure. I think St. Wendel.........Not sure though. Maybe Houffalize?

    I dont think Grundig (see the number plates) was a sponsor when Napa became a world cup.

    Tomac always rode up climbs that most others would walk. He was an amazing rider in every respect. He was also tested at the Olympic training center to have one of the smoothest and most efficient pedal strokes ever tested. Roadie or anybody. I dont think there will ever be anybody able to replace him or do what he did. He did so much for the sport. He was truly a phenomenon. To see him ride on a fast technical section is something that one could not forget.

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    and thats why i love this picture. It shows what JT was like...and what racing was like in those days.

    And yes, the picture is taken during a 'Grundig-Cup' Race in Houffalize, Belgium. I'm not quite sure, but it should be from 92.

    tioga even used that picture for advertising the Psycho...although JT used the Farmer Johns in that race

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    Those two guys on Ritcheys next to him are two of the best XC riders ever as well. Henrik Djernis and Thomas Frischknecht. Hank won the worlds 3 years in a row I think and Frischknecht got lots of silvers and one gold. Well, two golds now. But those two guys were always some of the first to get off and run up a hill as they came from a cyclocross background. Ritchey used to really dominate in the early 90s....Those "P" series bikes won a lot of world cups. Probably more than any other bike.

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    Yes, thats 92 as he has the world champion colors on. Wow! Farmer Johns in 92! Never thought that happened.

    He was a stud. He is a serious legend in my eyes!

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    Quote Originally Posted by laffeaux
    How steep is that hill??? Imagine pros pushing their bikes up a hill during a race... That looks like something that I would do.

    Is that race at Skyline Park in Napa by any chance?
    I can say that I have the same pair of shoes he's wearing in that picture...and that I can push hills like that in my middle ring at a full sprint for 4 miles straight. *cough*cough*

    That's why it's one of my fav. pictures. Heros climb hills everyone else has to walk.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fillet-brazed
    The good ol Mongoose days. That bottom black and white picture is cool. I recognize Jimmy Donnel, Max Jones, of course Tomac, and the other two guys dont look familiar...

    Those bring back some good memories. Is it just me or is racing not the same anymore?? I think its just me.
    It's not just you, F-b, racing has changed. Even at the "national" level races in the '80s were low key. The factory Trek-WTB team traveled in a '67 GTO convertible, primer grey with WTB stickers on the doors and fork mounts bolted in front of the trunk lid.

    Local events today feel more intense and the riders less friendly than the big events did then. Still better than most road races, though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fillet-brazed
    No, thats a World Cup in Europe somewhere Im pretty sure. I think St. Wendel.........Not sure though. Maybe Houffalize?

    I dont think Grundig (see the number plates) was a sponsor when Napa became a world cup.

    Tomac always rode up climbs that most others would walk. He was an amazing rider in every respect. He was also tested at the Olympic training center to have one of the smoothest and most efficient pedal strokes ever tested. Roadie or anybody. I dont think there will ever be anybody able to replace him or do what he did. He did so much for the sport. He was truly a phenomenon. To see him ride on a fast technical section is something that one could not forget.
    We had a NORBA National in Eugene OR in 1986. The course had a 1/4 mile long, steep, straight up the fall line climb. Us locals had cleaned it only twice - ever. Tomac was running a 36 x 28 low gear (no grannie) and rode it clean - in the saddle - 6 straight times - during the race. He was the only pro to do that and that included Tinker, Ned, Max, Mike Kloser, Paul Thomasberg, Joe Murray and a bunch of others.
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    New question here. More of the Tomes

    Thanks Kokopelli! Great pictures!!!

    I've got a couple of interesting Tomac inpired restore projects underway and these pics were really interesting.

    Never knew that he rode the drops on the Raleigh. Thought this was limited to his Yeti season, but you learn something new every day.

    Here's links to my favorite Tomac picture site currently, though this thread might soon eclipse it . . . .

    http://216.239.41.104/search?q=cache...hl=en&ie=UTF-8


    Here's a tough Tomac question for the the thread . . . can anyone identify the pink sticker on the top tube of his C-26?

    How about the sliver sticker just below the top tube on the seat tube?

    Been trying to find the answer to both of these questions and identify the stickers . . . can anyone help me?
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    Tomac Mongoose pic

    By the way . . . the Tomac picture where he's in the Cowboy hat holding the goose was taken at old Peddler bike shop which I use to wrench at . . .

    Here's a shout out to "The Peddler Bike Shop" in Long Branch New Jersey - one of the world's greatest bike shops. http://www.thepeddler.com/

    One of the guys in the photo, Wally, now runs another great shop
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    One interesting factoid - The Peddler bike shop was hired to provide mountain biking technical expertise and consulting for the first "Mountain Dew" commercials featuring mountainbikes back in the day . . . oldschool "do the dew"!

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    The drops lasted only a couple of the early World Cups in 91. For the first Norba race he was in the states and didnt have his drop bar bike as it was in Europe. He didnt want to go through all the hassle of setting one up with drops so he just raced with his flat bar. He thought the flat bars were so much nicer/faster that he never went back.

    He did have a much longer and lower drop setup though than a typical WTB style set up. He was trying to imitate his 7-11 Eddy Merckx set up as closely as possible.

    Regarding the stickers, the silver one is an Easton E9 sticker. The same sticker is on the Merlin made Raleigh frame....

    The pink one doesnt look familiar....

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    @mtnwing: Can't identify the pink one myself. But he didn't race this sticker on all his C-26. Toughest thing will be getting a C-26, won't it



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    A handshake?

    How much was that handshake worth in 1989?
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    Quote Originally Posted by kokopelli
    @mtnwing: Can't identify the pink one myself. But he didn't race this sticker on all his C-26. Toughest thing will be getting a C-26, won't it

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    Quote Originally Posted by mtnwing
    Tough agreed . . .. but not impossible . . . stay tuned pictures . . .

    Is this one yours?

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    I'd be a lucky man if that one was mine. No, that's the frame Parker sold on ebay.

    Little bit off topic: Wanna see a C-26 puzzle;-)

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    Heres one that looks to be the Park City National. This ones early 1990 as you'll notice he has not been given his C-26 yet. Hes on a steel FRO here. I wonder where this one is. I would love to have it!

    I have some more pics at home I think....
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    1991

    Heres another. This ones from 91. The Norba National Finals in Vermont. Here he is hammering up the climb with Tinker withering in the background. 1991 was Tomac's year. He won the NORBA National Championships, the Grundig World Cup, and of course the World Championships in Italy.
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    Pulled from another thread.

    This one must be Michigan. 1990, steel FRO. I like this shot.

    It looks like he hit the dirt. A rare thing for him.

    On a related note, did anybody see that jump Tomac hit in the 2000? X games. It was the final heat race and Tomac was in 2nd or third and hit this jump that launched him 40 feet in the air. Had Steve Peat (or maybe Eric Carter) not been in his way when he landed he would have won that race. It was amazing. He said afterwards he didnt want to use that jump untill the final to keep it a secret. ESPN.com used to have the video on their site but I think its gone now. I dont hear much about it really considering how amazing a move it was. Anyway, just another amazing addition to Tomacs legacy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by shiggy©®™
    It's not just you, F-b, racing has changed. Even at the "national" level races in the '80s were low key. The factory Trek-WTB team traveled in a '67 GTO convertible, primer grey with WTB stickers on the doors and fork mounts bolted in front of the trunk lid.

    Local events today feel more intense and the riders less friendly than the big events did then. Still better than most road races, though.
    Yeah, that part has changed (of course Yeti had that box van that started it all in 89 or so)but if you look at the start lineup from say 1990 and then one now, there are probably more pros now but most of them youve never even heard of. Heck, back then, all the fast experts and juniors were in the magazines and had good sponsors. Look at Jeremy Horgan Korbelski, nobody hardly knows who he is. Hes the best the US has to offer right now. I could list 20 factory guys from back in the day. Now I only know a few. But, like I said, that might just be that my interest is waning due to lack of stars like Tomac, Herbold, Grewal, Overend, etc....

    Maybe its a change in sponsorship. THe companies used to really promote their riders. Even Shimano had those ads with quotes from all the top riders, and then GT had those huge ads just for a certain rider etc. The riders seemed more like stars back then. Its kinda dead now in my eyes. Anybody else?

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    Here's one in his 'swimsuit'

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    I'll try two pics in one post here. Both are 93, the first I dont know where it is, the second is Durango Ironhorse Classic.
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    Thanks to John and Herbold...

    I think Tension Discs are the coolest thing ever.
    I know they don't work well, have lots of flex, and fall out of true or blow up completely if you look at them the wrong way....not to mention (still) expensive and now hard to find.
    To own one is not enough. I'd run them all the time if they held up better. I guess it's as strange as riding a 10 year old bike....

    Anyone have interesting or heart breaking stories regarding their T-discs?
    I guess it's a bit OT...
    I think John should go back to using them! There, better.

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    Those beautiful Tomac helmets!

    Found this one on the Bell Helmet's website. Apparently they've been sponsoring Tomac since 1986. Funny to see him without a beautifully painted helmet. He almost looks mortal!

    Interesting read on Bell's long history with helmets including Evil Knievel among others.
    http://www.bellbikehelmets.com/main/about/timeline.html
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    Here's a really rare one.

    The other one should be from around 89.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fillet-brazed
    Those two guys on Ritcheys next to him are two of the best XC riders ever as well. Henrik Djernis and Thomas Frischknecht. Hank won the worlds 3 years in a row I think and Frischknecht got lots of silvers and one gold. Well, two golds now. But those two guys were always some of the first to get off and run up a hill as they came from a cyclocross background. Ritchey used to really dominate in the early 90s....Those "P" series bikes won a lot of world cups. Probably more than any other bike.
    YES! Good old Hank really ruled!
    Imagine winning the worlds 3 times in a row...!? + he got an obscene lot of secondary placings (worlds, EuroChamp'ships and Nationals)
    Dont think that anyone will do that again..

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    Another old Tomac pic

    This one is from an old SI trading card that recently sold on ebay . . .
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    Quote Originally Posted by laffeaux
    How steep is that hill??? Imagine pros pushing their bikes up a hill during a race... That looks like something that I would do.

    Is that race at Skyline Park in Napa by any chance?
    ----------------------

    I'm pretty sure that is Hunter Mountain, New York 1992.
    I raced that day and remember that hill very well (raced Junior expert at the time.)

    Great pic, it brings back some memories...

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    Heres a Grundig World Cup shot from 89. Its a titanium Mongoose with that cool Yeti fork.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fillet-brazed
    Heres a Grundig World Cup shot from 89. Its a titanium Mongoose with that cool Yeti fork.
    I always wondered why when you're handed a number at a bike race they always say not to deface it. Now that I see what Tomac did to his number plates, it all makes sense.

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    Number plate oragami

    You've got a point there Laffauex!

    If you look back at pictures in this thread he's got a different shape with every plate! It must be an undocumented speed secret!

    off to find some sharp scissors . . .

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    Tomac Raleigh titanium bike

    Eric and all,

    I was at the Recyclery in San Rafael today, They have a Tomac Ti bike in the front of the shop locked up, 18 1/2 inch, only $499.

    Just passing along a lead if someone was interested. Not sure of model, but definely a titanium bike.

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    I think the main complaint with number plates is the inability to adjust your brakes or shifting on the fly. Tomac always cut his up. If you look closely at his 1990 World Championship number plate (drop bars and Yeti C-26) you will see he cut it up and then had to put a full size white back ground behind it probably because the promoter made him.....

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    Here's a few more

    I took in 1994 at a NORBA national in Spokane, WA
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    Quote Originally Posted by DoubleDiamond
    I took in 1994 at a NORBA national in Spokane, WA
    Cool pics DoubleDiamond. Thanks for sharing!
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    funny how tioga always made their fork for tomes. But never for any1 else

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    Classic shot there. Those forks there are actually just Showa forks. A few companies put their name on that particular fork.........

    But yeah, never understood Tiogas marketing plan with those forks.

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    Tioga forks

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    funny how tioga always made their fork for tomes. But never for any1 else
    Actually, nearly identical "Showa made" forks were sold to the publicly under the "Trek" name brand (DS2, DDS3, Mogul air/oil). I've been told that Tioga would trick out the air/oil internals (as nearly all pro race teams do with their forks) for Tomac, but the legs and sliders were identical to stock Trek forks I believe, just recolored. I think the crowns may have been different on some, and Tomac actually used a stock Rock Shox Mag 21 fork brace on these forks much of the time.

    Tioga did actually sell one "Tioga branded" fork to the public but it was a very low end elastomer model similiar to the Tange "Struts" if you remeber those.

    Even though they never publicly sold the highend Tioga forks to the public, I think it was good marketing move, as suspension forks are very noticeable part and it helped associated Tomac's success with the Tioga brand name. With the exception of the frame it's the largest part on a bicycle that you can print your brand name and easily see the brand name in photo's, even when the bike is moving.

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    1987

    Here are a couple from 87. This is the Fat Chance/Mongoose frame. Sorry for the poor quality. I just took a couple shots from an old magazine I was looking through. In the second shot you can see Mike Kloser, Rishi Grewal, Tinker, and Ned. They all look so young. Not sure who that is over Klosers shoulder. It looks like Laurence Malone but I dont think he ever rode for Ritchey...... Love those old Oakley factory pilots!
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    The 1988 Eagle-wings!

    Quote Originally Posted by Fillet-brazed
    Here are a couple from 87. This is the Fat Chance/Mongoose frame. Sorry for the poor quality. I just took a couple shots from an old magazine I was looking through. In the second shot you can see Mike Kloser, Rishi Grewal, Tinker, and Ned. They all look so young. Not sure who that is over Klosers shoulder. It looks like Laurence Malone but I dont think he ever rode for Ritchey...... Love those old Oakley factory pilots!
    Cool pics from 1987! Thanks Fillet-Brazed!

    Here's Tomac on his Mongoose 1988 signature frame which was made by a small Japanese frame shop according to old articles. He was the first pro to have an MTB signature frame.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mtnwing
    Cool pics from 1987! Thanks Fillet-Brazed!

    Here's Tomac on his Mongoose 1988 signature frame which was made by a small Japanese frame shop according to old articles. He was the first pro to have an MTB signature frame.

    Troy Lee eat your heart out on those cool helmet graphics . . .

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    Quote Originally Posted by mtnwing
    Troy Lee eat your heart out on those cool helmet graphics . . .
    Also perhaps the first documented photo evidence of his addiction for trimming up number plates for that ultra-aero speed advantage . . . .

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    here are a few scans from old mba's
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    Mongoose John Tomac Signature

    Quote Originally Posted by mtnwing
    Cool pics from 1987! Thanks Fillet-Brazed!

    Here's Tomac on his Mongoose 1988 signature frame which was made by a small Japanese frame shop according to old articles. He was the first pro to have an MTB signature frame.
    Here's a old Mongoose an ad from 1988 showing John and his Tomac Signature Frame.

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    PS - Anyone got one of these old Mongoose Tomac Signature's they want to sell me? I'm willing to pay top dollar!

    Email: carbonbikes (at) mountainbikes (dot) net if you do!
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    Cool ad! He looks so young. I guess he was thrashing on the big boys at age 19. Id like to have one of those bikes also. A while ago you mentioned that it was made in Japan?? Is that right? I have a writeup of I think the Tour de Rockies MTB race where Tomac just crushed everybody at 20 years of age and his second year of MTBing. Ned, Rishi, Thomasberg, Murray, everybody. I'll have to post it here sometime.

    Regarding the pic of the 91 you asked for a few days ago, the only digital photos I think I have of the 91 are all in this thread. Any shot of him on the Raleigh with the Manitou 1 is 1991. There are no good closeups. My favorite shot is that one at Vermont where hes standing up that climb dropping Tinker! I was also wrong about the clear Tension disc not being used in 91. He did use it but only at the last race of the year at the Worlds in Italy. Theres a shot in this thread.

    I do think Ive got some closeups of his 91 bike in an old Winning magazine. I'll try and hunt it down. Anybody remember Winning??

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    Tomac ODi ad

    Odi Mountaineer Grips ad. How 'bout that hair do! Shades of Max headroom.
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