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    Official GT Thread

    Anyone out there have any Xizangs, Zaskars or Pyclones (or whatever they were called)?? I loved those frames... never had any...

    OK so i love the signature tomac, and my yeti and fats... but realy this is my all time fav frame...:

    (hope its not too big)


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    I have a first year Xizang exactly like that one, but currently fitted with a later (~97) Marzocchi Bomber. I have a lot of vintage bikes but the Xiz is the one I ride all the time. They're great.

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    I have a 1992 Team Avalanche. This was the steel frame version that came with XTR M-900. I rode that bike 1000s of miles... Still loving it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sallen
    I have a 1992 Team Avalanche. This was the steel frame version that came with XTR M-900. I rode that bike 1000s of miles... Still loving it.
    I used to have a '91 Team Avalanche. No longer own it though.

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    Has anyone ever heard Rishi go by at full throttle?

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    I have one too..

    But...it's a Timberline, all steel frame and Shimano Deore components...I really love this bike, I even want to upgrade it/modify it to an urban assault/commuter...But...

    Where can I find old pull brakes?...or a 7-speed cassette and derailleurs ??

    I'll post a pic tomorrow..
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fillet-brazed
    Has anyone ever heard Rishi go by at full throttle?
    Why, did he make funny sounds?

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    Quote Originally Posted by OldFatDan
    Where can I find old pull brakes?...or a 7-speed cassette and derailleurs ??
    You can usually find all that stuff on ebay.

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    You're in luck Mik...now if you can just get him to ship to you....

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    AAWWEE!!! too bad i just bought a house, my girlfriend woul;d kill me...

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    Quote Originally Posted by mwr
    Why, did he make funny sounds?
    Ya, hopefully someone will chime in thats heard him. I think its on the exhale he lets out a kind of high pitch sound. Almost like girls tennis but higher pitched. Kinda hard to put into text. Definitely distinct. You can hear him coming and going.

    I asked him about it a few years ago and he started laughing about it and said people ask him if thats his normal deal all the time. He said thats what happens when hes going hard... Hes a real nice guy. He and his wife. He used to go pretty darn good back in the day!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fillet-brazed
    Ya, hopefully someone will chime in thats heard him. I think its on the exhale he lets out a kind of high pitch sound. Almost like girls tennis but higher pitched. Kinda hard to put into text. Definitely distinct. You can hear him coming and going.

    I asked him about it a few years ago and he started laughing about it and said people ask him if thats his normal deal all the time. He said thats what happens when hes going hard... Hes a real nice guy. He and his wife. He used to go pretty darn good back in the day!
    I'll have to have you do a reenactment next time I see you.

    Tammi Jaques still his wife? I always thought she was mildly hot.
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    here is some stuff that I needed an excuse to post.

    Couple of items from amongst the hundreds of POS's at our last police bike auction.

    Saw this and had to have it. Vicious bidding war ensued and I had to fork out 27 bucks to take it home.
    24" BMX GT


    This was the sleeper, we knew that under a thick coat of spray paint (the painter didn't miss a spot, got tires, cassette, hubs, spokes, etc.) it was a GT, Alu, 7 sp. XT, Mag 21, our fingers were crossed that it was a Zaskar. Late in the auction so fatigue had set in and we got it for 25. Some of the spray job had been removed in this shot, and a few parts switched so we could take it for a spin, but you get the idea.


    Turns out it was an avalanche. We stripped, polished it, and scored a sticker set.


    Good friend and infamous Boulder Army Store patriarch ripping it up on the finished product. Probably never been ridden like this before.

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    check harriscyclery.com for that kind o' stuff.
    Quote Originally Posted by OldFatDan
    But...it's a Timberline, all steel frame and Shimano Deore components...I really love this bike, I even want to upgrade it/modify it to an urban assault/commuter...But...

    Where can I find old pull brakes?...or a 7-speed cassette and derailleurs ??

    I'll post a pic tomorrow..


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    Quote Originally Posted by Rumpfy
    I'll have to have you do a reenactment next time I see you.

    Tammi Jaques still his wife? I always thought she was mildly hot.
    Ya Tammi is his wife. They had a little girl. With both of them as parents their kids should put out some horsepower!
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    My "old" GT. 2000 STS1000 DS. Sold it a few years ago.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fillet-brazed
    Ya Tammi is his wife. Atleast 2-3 years ago. They had a little girl. With both of them as parents their kids should put out some horsepower!
    Good genes.
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    This is my late 80's Timberline...

    Let's see if this works out...
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    Quote Originally Posted by laffeaux
    I used to have a '91 Team Avalanche. No longer own it though.

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    Why did GT hold on to the U-brake thing for so long? Its my least favorite part of my team avalanche....

    BTW - My first mountain bike was a 1988 GT Tequesta with Suntour XCE

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    GT Karakorum K2

    I'm not sure how old this one is but I'm thinking about 1987/88,all Suntour XCE. I found this one in a pile of bikes on the side of the street,dumped there by a home owner cleaning out his backyard.
    I cleaned it up and pumped the tires and she was ready to go.But during a recent ride the bottom bracket started to make really loud grinding noises sounding like a mountain lion in heat. It just happened to be at the same trail where a mountain lion was spotted a week earlier. I'm pretty sure the trail users weren't amused.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sallen
    Why did GT hold on to the U-brake thing for so long? Its my least favorite part of my team avalanche....
    Because they were more powerful than cantilevers and in a sensible location on the seatstays they worked well. It was putting them on the chainstays (usually under them) which earned them a bad rep. Cantilevers were more powerful than say, V-brakes, but less so than U's, so GT only ran rear U-brakes lest customers launch themselves over the bars via locking up front brake/wheel.

    The comical part to v-brakes for me is that they've basically totally killed off brake booster sales/production. Back in cantilever/u-brake days, you almost HAD to have a booster plate to keep from breaking your fork/frame. Now with V's, no need for them anymore. Yet people insist v's are more powerful. LOL.

    A guy I know repeatedly BENT brake studs on frames/forks whenever he tried running a Scott Pedersen SE brake without a booster.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Built4Speed
    I'm not sure how old this one is but I'm thinking about 1987/88,all Suntour XCE. I found this one in a pile of bikes on the side of the street,dumped there by a home owner cleaning out his backyard.
    I cleaned it up and pumped the tires and she was ready to go.But during a recent ride the bottom bracket started to make really loud grinding noises sounding like a mountain lion in heat. It just happened to be at the same trail where a mountain lion was spotted a week earlier. I'm pretty sure the trail users weren't amused.

    I got a Karakorum in the mid '90s. Put a bomber z3 on it, raceface cranks, WTB rims... Best fitting and one of the best riding bikes I'd ever been on. I got it because I thought it was a tough-ass bike that would last me forever. In Thunder Bay there ware always about 10 old ones I would see from time to time that were destined for a third decade of heavy use. SURPRISE!!! Mine broke at the chainstay about two-and-a-half years later. GT had then discontinued the Karakorum and I wound up with an ill-fitting backwoods frame.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DeeEight
    Because they were more powerful than cantilevers and in a sensible location on the seatstays they worked well. It was putting them on the chainstays (usually under them) which earned them a bad rep. Cantilevers were more powerful than say, V-brakes, but less so than U's, so GT only ran rear U-brakes lest customers launch themselves over the bars via locking up front brake/wheel.

    The comical part to v-brakes for me is that they've basically totally killed off brake booster sales/production. Back in cantilever/u-brake days, you almost HAD to have a booster plate to keep from breaking your fork/frame. Now with V's, no need for them anymore. Yet people insist v's are more powerful. LOL.

    A guy I know repeatedly BENT brake studs on frames/forks whenever he tried running a Scott Pedersen SE brake without a booster.

    That's funny... my main issue back in the day was that there wasn;t a huge selection of U-brakes available... I did end up with the scott brake though! =) it was a bit hard to set up... but once it was... it rocked!

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    yes

    Quote Originally Posted by Fillet-brazed
    Has anyone ever heard Rishi go by at full throttle?
    I watched him smoke the field at the Traverse City, MI NORBA Nat'l back in 1991. Very impressive win on a dry dusty course.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DeeEight
    Because they were more powerful than cantilevers and in a sensible location on the seatstays they worked well. It was putting them on the chainstays (usually under them) which earned them a bad rep. Cantilevers were more powerful than say, V-brakes, but less so than U's, so GT only ran rear U-brakes lest customers launch themselves over the bars via locking up front brake/wheel.
    You're kidding right? GT held on to U-brakes because of their triple triangle frame. Your heel would have hit canti's due to the much lower chainstays. U-Brakes were ok, but not even in the same universe as a set of Vee's.

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    Old GT's

    Here's my old Backwoods. All Alivio running gear. A '93 I think.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Go Kart Motzart
    You're kidding right? GT held on to U-brakes because of their triple triangle frame. Your heel would have hit canti's due to the much lower chainstays. U-Brakes were ok, but not even in the same universe as a set of Vee's.

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    You'rre kidding right? Gt used U-brakes in the rear because it was the best brake for the rear end of a bike at the time, especially when mounted up top. Some think it still is. When weight became an issue and lower profile canti's became available they switched. Originally Shimano didn't make canti's in more than one size. Then the v's came along.

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    lots of nice Karakorams out there!

    Quote Originally Posted by TobyNobody
    I got a Karakorum in the mid '90s. Put a bomber z3 on it, raceface cranks, WTB rims... Best fitting and one of the best riding bikes I'd ever been on. I got it because I thought it was a tough-ass bike that would last me forever. In Thunder Bay there ware always about 10 old ones I would see from time to time that were destined for a third decade of heavy use. SURPRISE!!! Mine broke at the chainstay about two-and-a-half years later. GT had then discontinued the Karakorum and I wound up with an ill-fitting backwoods frame.

    Take care of that baby. And if its too big, send it to me. I still miss my baby
    You need to check craigslist and ebay often. There's lots of nice Karakorams out there. Even some NOS frames. What size do you need?

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    Quote Originally Posted by gm1230126
    You need to check craigslist and ebay often. There's lots of nice Karakorams out there. Even some NOS frames. What size do you need?
    I've been watching ebay for years looking for one of those red Karakorams like Go Kart's. Actually, I've been looking prety much since I sold mine in 92. Dumb move...
    I'd buy a 16" if I found one. Would also grab the 91 Avalanche with the "Daktari white" finish. That was the bike I wanted but couldn't afford, so I got the Karakoram instead.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GT_guy
    I've been watching ebay for years looking for one of those red Karakorams like Go Kart's. Actually, I've been looking prety much since I sold mine in 92. Dumb move...
    I'd buy a 16" if I found one. Would also grab the 91 Avalanche with the "Daktari white" finish. That was the bike I wanted but couldn't afford, so I got the Karakoram instead.

    Isn't that black reynolds Karakoram frame in the mtbr classifieds a 16" it's only like $69 NOS

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    Found some pics of past GT's ..............now sadly long gone

    GT karakoram elite..............

    GT karakoram.............

    And one frame I just got, and might keep, GT zaskar LE Red annodized........



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    Quote Originally Posted by Built4Speed
    I'm not sure how old this one is but I'm thinking about 1987/88,all Suntour XCE. I found this one in a pile of bikes on the side of the street,dumped there by a home owner cleaning out his backyard.
    I cleaned it up and pumped the tires and she was ready to go.But during a recent ride the bottom bracket started to make really loud grinding noises sounding like a mountain lion in heat. It just happened to be at the same trail where a mountain lion was spotted a week earlier. I'm pretty sure the trail users weren't amused.
    Based on components and the purple pearl, I am pretty sure it is an 89 or 90. IIRC the 88, which was the first year of production of Mtn bikes for GT, had Deore on it. Plus the 88 had either a red or black/white crackled paint finish.

    I had the first GT Avalanche sold in Atlanta. Actually, we were one of the first GT Mtn bike dealers in that area and we sold the snot out of them. I'll scan a picture of it later and post it up. By the time I took the picture it had lost its GT cranks in favor of 185mm Bullseyes and featured a few other tastie pieces from that era. I actually wish I still owned it, but it went away so I could get a first generation Skunk Works M2. Big disappointment.
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    Quote Originally Posted by gm1230126
    Isn't that black reynolds Karakoram frame in the mtbr classifieds a 16" it's only like $69 NOS
    I don't see that ad. Is it still listed?

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    Quote Originally Posted by sallen
    Why did GT hold on to the U-brake thing for so long? Its my least favorite part of my team avalanche....

    BTW - My first mountain bike was a 1988 GT Tequesta with Suntour XCE
    I'm with DeeEight. One of my favorite things about the earlier GTs were that they stuck with the u-brake stud (making the swap to a rollercam possible). I'm still watching for an early 16" Xizang with the u-brake studs. To each their own I guess...

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    How were you all able to run rollercams on the rear? I ran a set on the front on my '88 Avalanche, but there wasn't enough room to properly route the cable for roller cams on the rear. And that was on a 20" frame mind you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by retrobikeguy
    Found some pics of past GT's ..............now sadly long gone

    GT karakoram elite..............

    GT karakoram.............

    And one frame I just got, and might keep, GT zaskar LE Red annodized........



    ugliest lot of bikes ever............to each his own is right...............yuck!!

    no offense to you all

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    Quote Originally Posted by IF52
    How were you all able to run rollercams on the rear? I ran a set on the front on my '88 Avalanche, but there wasn't enough room to properly route the cable for roller cams on the rear. And that was on a 20" frame mind you.
    You had to run a cable on each side of the cam to keep it from pulling to the side, but it worked great. XCD-6000s in particular worked great.

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    Hmm, that's what I figured you did. I tried it and didn't really like the way the cable loop clamped onto the cam so I gave up and stuck with U brakes on the rear.
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    Quote Originally Posted by IF52
    Hmm, that's what I figured you did. I tried it and didn't really like the way the cable loop clamped onto the cam so I gave up and stuck with U brakes on the rear.

    A toggle cam would be the answer here. A roller cam would be a mess on a GT.

    I dont think U brakes have more power than a properly set up canti either. U brakes have less leverage as is seen by the large amounts of pad clearance.

    Heres a pic of the toggle cam. It works well being pulled from off center. The toggle cam is by far the best rim brake Ive ever experienced bar none.

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    I don't remember where I stole theese pictures, but it's a pretty Xizang anyway

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    Check out this dandy 1994 Zaskar.



    See the rest of the bike here.

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    I have a buddy with a 1994 Karakoram with probably less than 1000 miles on it. Rigid forks, LX hardware. Beautiful white bike.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SSINGA
    My "old" GT. 2000 STS1000 DS. Sold it a few years ago.
    Nice bike but you are mistaking it for a year 2000'. When it is actually a 1997 or 1998'. The years 1999'-2000' were I-Drives.

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    I hadn't seen a GT mountain bike in years until this past week, when I had 2 Zaskars and a LTS all hanging in the shop at the same time for tune-ups , and now this thread. Never could stand them myself, but they looked cool (sorta).

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    My two GT's.

    A Zaskar and a Backwoods. The zaskar still is the main race bike. That is why it has some new school stuff on it. The Backwoods is set up as SS and brings me to my work!
    There is a xzizang at the lbs that I'd like to have...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Williwoods
    ugliest lot of bikes ever............to each his own is right...............yuck!!

    no offense to you all

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    Non taken, just an individuals taste I suppose ! Yuck !!............bless his little cotton socks

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    An old photo of my first mountain bike, a '93 Team Scream painted Bravado LE (chro-moly). It was too small for me, and I wound up getting rid of it for a larger Fat Chance Yo Eddy, but I would still like to have this bike again. If anyone knows of where to find this frame in an 18", I'd be all over it...

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    hmmm.. 90 gt karakoram. my 1st serious bike. suntour xcd, painted blue. beautifull. and the fit was the best i ever had in a bike.. what is it that GTs give such a good fit? they are kind of ritchey like in numbers aren't they? btw.. that karakoram weighed a ton.

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