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    Cool-blue Rhythm Official FAT chance thread

    Hi guys
    OK, so people like myself incapable of uploading pics, just tell us what you've got. If you can upload pics all the better! Show the love for FAT people

    My babies
    93 Fat Chance yo eddy, pearlised lavender. parts highlights, Box levers, grafton maglite cantis, critical racing cantis, Ibis ti bars & stem, IRD post, cooks QRs & RSRs cranks, hugi hubs, 231ceramics, m900xtr shifters f.mech & durace r.mech.

    99 Fat Chance Titanium, chris king ti headset, 7 ti stem, m951 XTR cranks, bb, cantis,shifterlevers, mechs, cassette. full SRP ti bolt kit. King hubs. King ti cages. Custom syncros ti post shaft with raceface clamp.

    Look forward to hearing/seeing what you've got!

    Many thanks!

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    Why am I not suprised this to be your post Scant!

    My only Fat right now is an older Wicked(?)...although I can't be sure on that. It was a theft recovery frame with a quick rattle can paint job over the original Grellow. I've taken some laquer thinner to it and it's worked ok thus far, but some or the original decals are being lost as a result...
    Most of the mini mtb'er decals all over the frame are in pretty good shape though. I'm only half way down with the rub down.
    Before and after pics below...
    Of course, I'm sorta looking for a nice early 90's Yo Eddy Team if anyone want's to humor me.
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    Scant - Welcome and a question for you....

    Scant, I have a 1992 Yo Eddy, and for some reason, I can not find the front deraileur. I have the type that feeds the del. cable throught the bottom via a small pully on the back of the seat tube.

    Question #1 - What size is the del. clamp? 31.8?

    Question #2 - Is the front Del. a bottom pull or top pull?

    Any help would be great. I plan on putting a simple XT on it.

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    hi guys
    rumfy, A mate of mine is considering selling his complete Yo eddy (91?) mail me for his address (UK).
    Are you going to try & fully restore the wicked (I've followed your progress on 1stflightbikes :P) or possibly go for a respray?

    http://www.fatfans.de/ seems to suggest "Front derailleur size: 1 1/4", top pull only" which seems way out to me! 31.8mm bottom pull for the pulley behind the seatube is right. Its inkeeping with the bike. I run this setup on my Yo. To be honest the roller isnt great. When mud accumulates on the roller it turns the roller into a cam to a lesser extent!
    Much later models of Yo used direct cable, no pulley, top pull mechs which work a lot better

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    First Flight forum is a nice place to hang.
    I've seen your name come up on the mtb-news.de and singletrackworld forums too...all good places to learn.

    As far as my Fat, I beleive the frame is too big for me. To put the money into a respray and then sell it would not be a very good way to spend my money.
    I'll take the time to clean it up as best I can and hope to find a good home for it.
    I just didn't want to see it waste away.

    I'm open to any Yo really...but to ship a frame over seas might proove more money than I can afford.

    Which Fats have the wish bone style seat stays?
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    hi eric
    nar, I meant restoring the Yo for restoration sake! Although selling it for 1 that fits you does make sence :P mail me & I'll pass you onto grant whos considering selling his yo.

    The 93 fat chance titanium & the buck shaver both had wishbone seatstays. theres a real nice buck on ebay.de in lavender currently :P

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    Yeah, I'd love to hold on to every frame I get, but my dinky apartment doesn't let me spread out...I can, however, justify an exchange for the correct size....then resto!

    Thanks on the wishbone info. Speaking of Ti's...also one up on ebay.com
    That buck is in fine shape!




    Quote Originally Posted by scant
    hi eric
    nar, I meant restoring the Yo for restoration sake! Although selling it for 1 that fits you does make sence :P mail me & I'll pass you onto grant whos considering selling his yo.

    The 93 fat chance titanium & the buck shaver both had wishbone seatstays. theres a real nice buck on ebay.de in lavender currently :P
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    ok, here we go
    fat chance 1989 NOS
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    fat chance monster fat, late 1991 - sold 4 weeks ago
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    again, fat chance monster fat 1992
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    fat chance 10th anniversary NOS
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    last but not least: fat chance titanium 1993

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    I guess it is appropriate that my first post here should be a pic of my old Fat Chance Team Comp. How do you guys like this one? We didn't need no stinking suspension. How about those Scott aero bars and the black and green Bullseye hubs? That was a great bike. Rolled like a freight train. Cool site by the way. I will have to start checking in when I can.

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    We the people ...

    So....Marc....wanna trade?


    Quote Originally Posted by rasaldul
    last but not least: fat chance titanium 1993

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    If you ever find another Monster Fat in Medium, and it is for sale, Please contact me. I have a 1992 Yo Eddy, but would love the Monster in memory of Fat Matt.

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    hi guys
    rasadul, nice collection! I'd love a 10th anniversary. There were a few for sale early last year. I was spending soo much $$ on bikes I held back, gutted, wish I hadnt now!

    JS, so whats the full story behind "but would love the Monster in memory of Fat Matt."??

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    Quote Originally Posted by scant
    hi guys
    rasadul, nice collection! I'd love a 10th anniversary. There were a few for sale early last year. I was spending soo much $$ on bikes I held back, gutted, wish I hadnt now!
    .......
    you´re right mike, in may last year there have been 4 10th anni´s for sale in 1 week (1@ebay.com,1@ebay.de,2@mtb-news.de). getting a 10th anni is not cheap - but it´s worth spending a lot of money. soon it will get nearly NOS 900 xtr components (sorry, but campy record OR sucks )

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    hi marc
    the 10ths didnt sell for crazy $$ 450UK pounds frame & fork. Thats why i regret it sooo much know!
    Do you know the person with 3 10ths pictured on mtb-classic forum? Now thats plain greedy!

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    My Yo Eddy singlespeed

    Here's my '94 Somerville Yo Eddy, currently sporting an ENO eccentric rear hub for singlespeed, Race Face cranks in orange! By the way, Chris Chance's wife has tons of Fat Chance gear, including full decal sets, if anyone's interested. And she told me last week that they're trying to restart manufacturing for the Big One Inch forks. No more bikes, though.
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    "that they're trying to restart manufacturing for the Big One Inch forks"

    dude!!!

    is that right? not too surprised, theres a big demand for cool high end forks these days! Whos going to be making them?

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    Big One Inch

    Quote Originally Posted by scant
    "that they're trying to restart manufacturing for the Big One Inch forks"

    dude!!!

    is that right? not too surprised, theres a big demand for cool high end forks these days! Whos going to be making them?

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    Not sure, but someone in the Somerville area. Wendyll is her name, and she's currently selling stuff on ebay under the username yobetty. She's very nice and seems happy to talk shop.

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    dude, wendyl is chris chances ex & a big part of FAT chance in herself!
    I wonder who's going to do the building? Anymore info post it here!

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    Matt was a large person, and they named the monster fat after him. I am also rather large and have always wanted a Fat Fat.

    I hope he is OK, I did not mean to imply he was Gone.

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    Quote Originally Posted by scant
    dude, wendyl is chris chances ex & a big part of FAT chance in herself!
    I wonder who's going to do the building? Anymore info post it here!

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    Hey,

    New here, but wanted to comment that not only is Wendyl a big part of Fat history, but a huge part of why FCC as much as fell off the face of the planet.

    I speak from being somewhat in the know. The shop I helped manage was the number 2 Fat dealer IN THE WORLD in the mid 90s before Wendyl convinced Chris to move to the Serotta facility in South Glens Falls NY. Two factory team riders worked for our shop, one of whom helped develop the Shockabilly designs. Both riders later jumped ship to Indepenent Fabrication out of loyalty to those guys, being as Wendyl fired basically EVERYONE (who later started IF) when they moved Fat City to NY.

    Hardcore cogs really don't even recognize post Somerville Fats and for many it is due to how uncool it was that Wendyl dumped all the workers to make the move to NY.

    If I had to give one person credit for (Somerville) Fat being as successful as they were in the 90s, other than Chris, it would have to be Rob Mossman.

    By the way, anybody know the whereabout of any of the 3 1996 Fatlanta edition Yo Eddys?

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    IF52, tell me more about "1996 Fatlanta edition Yo Eddys"

    I'm not going to seperate my love of FATs by their year of construction! some hard core yeti followers seem to only follow parker era yetis. Well thats personal preference & all. I think its nice to be so loyal to a brand to defend some time periods.

    I dont know (or really care) about the wendyl/chris history (thats their business!)

    I just miss the bikes

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    I guess one thing good came out of the decission to move to New York, and that is it inspired the creation of Independent Fabrication That said, I miss their bikes too.

    As I wrote earlier, the shop I managed was Fat's 2nd largest dealer in the world. We were located in a neighborhood of Atlanta GA, and as I am sure you recall that was the sight of the 96 Olympics. Well, we decided to try and work something out with Fat to build a limited edition bike commemorating that event. Wendyl was all for it and we sat down and tried to work out the concept when she was down for the SuperShow. Basically it was a Yo with a custom paint job. We tried to convince her that the paint job should be something really zooty, like some of the wild stuff they used to do in the past. We also wanted the bikes to stay within a reasonable price range, very close to the stock Yo.

    Well, Wendyl being Wendyl, she made it really hard to come to an agreement and couldn't really comprehend that this would be a good marketing op for Fat. As it was, their sales were nowhere near what they should have been and they needed to fight to regain market share. Basically, just about everyone who would have bought a Fat from us before was now buying IFs from a shop that spun off of us (another story for another time). Ironically, I was one of those people (I own the 52nd IF ever built). In fact, all of my sales people eventually sold their Fats and bought IFs, even though we remained a Fat dealer. Seems a lot of former Fat fans were more dedicated to the guys who got left behind than to Chris, in part because the IF dealer, APB, tended to vilify Fat for what happened.

    So, instead of a really interesting paint job as I had designed (Blue to red fade with white stars) she insisted on an all white bike with a stars and stripes Fat Chance logo, a Fatlanta decal and our shop logo. Then, she tried to get us to buy all 10 of the limited run at one time, not really comprehending that we had no idea what sizes would sell. We finally talked her down to 3, and that is all that were ever built. We sold one while I still worked there and sent one back. The other was still hanging on the wall as a frame when I moved to Ohio.

    Oh, and Ed from APB had the boys at IF paint a single speed for him in the paint sceme I came up with for the Fatlanta just to rub it in my face.

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    hi mate
    thanks for the info
    In a kinda small world way a mate just sent me this link that he won:
    http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...category=42317

    so in theory he could get a white Yo & have much the same effect?! (cheeky I know )

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    dont suppose you've got a pic of a built up fatlanta mate?

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    Quote Originally Posted by scant
    hi mate
    thanks for the info
    In a kinda small world way a mate just sent me this link that he won:
    http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...category=42317

    so in theory he could get a white Yo & have much the same effect?! (cheeky I know )

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    Haha, very funny. That was how I felt when she made that our only option. She really didn't get the idea that the point was to make the bike something people would look at an go WOW! On the other hand, I think Mossman would have been all over it and would have worked it out with us.

    I'll have to see if I have any pictures. I know I have our newspaper ad regarding the Fatlanta. Maybe one of the store owners still has pictures, I'll check.

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    thanks mate, look forward to the pics :P

    any other limted edition FATs I should know about (still want a 10th anniversary as pictured above :P)

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    Quote Originally Posted by scant
    thanks mate, look forward to the pics :P

    any other limted edition FATs I should know about (still want a 10th anniversary as pictured above :P)

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    Oh, I forgot this as well. To make the bike "officially" a Fatlanta, it needs to have our shop logo on it, which I have a whole stack of if your pal needs a couple (they go an either side of the top tube) and it needs to be signed and numbered by Chris. That is a story in itself.

    So, when we were working this out with Wendyl, we suggested that the run should be limited, to make the bike more special and desireable. She had a hard time with this concept at first, but finally realized the benefit. Well, the idea was to have Chris sign and number each bike 1/10, 2/10, etc. The screwed that up and numbered them starting from last to first, 10/10, etc. Fortunately we caught it on the first bike and sent it back to have it redone.

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    hi mate
    thanks for the offer of the stickers I'm always in touch

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    The Monster Fat also had wishbone stays.Pre Buck Shaver.Mine was a 1990/89.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SS Jerry
    If you ever find another Monster Fat in Medium, and it is for sale, Please contact me. I have a 1992 Yo Eddy, but would love the Monster in memory of Fat Matt.

    JS

    Hey Jerry,

    If my pal Todd will ever call me back, I may be able to talk him into selling his Monster. I doubt it is in good shape as just about every redneck in Suches GA has been riding it for the past decade, but who knows. The interesting thing about the bike is that it was the very last Monster to leave Somerville. I am not 100% sure it was the last built (pretty sure though), but I am sure it was the last one to leave Fat.

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    The Ti Fat on eBay

    That Ti Fat on eBay busted the $2k mark!
    Quite a good sale....anyone here the lucky owner?
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    buck shaver

    a frame I never built............
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    I never did nail down the exact model, won it on ebay as a full bike, resold it a month later as a frameset. Got conflicting info from other so called FatCity experts about it not being a fat chance product (on account of dropouts, raised seattube extension, decals placement, and serial number) and then after i sold it, my parents gave me a copy of "Ultimate Bicycle Book" first published in 1992 that has a pic of a Team Fat Chance Yo Eddy in it which was otherwise identical except for the seattube extension. But then others in this thread have fat's with extended seattubes as well, plus there's the store guy talking about how he wanted a limited run just for his shop, and I'm sure other dealers/customers ordered minor variations themselves.
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    My Yo is a '94 Somerville-built gal. It was originally that "team lavender", built up with a painted-to-match Mag 21. About a year later, I sent it back to Fat to have it repainted like you see in the pic. I loved the tri-color team thing that was bright green/pink/purple, but I decided to go with the red/orange/Judy SL yellow. This pic is a couple of years old when I converted it to SS.

    I have another bike a ride 95% of the time (Matt Chester Utilitiman), so unfortunately, this one doesn't see the trails too much.
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    drevel, that is such a cool colour scheme, very nice

    not too surprised that fat ti made 2K!

    I do know of a 12in fat chance titanium for £499 if anyones interested? suit rider 4ft 11in ish!

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    A Shock-a-Billy up north...

    My bike is currently parked in my bedroom (locked of course -- don't get any ideas ) waiting for spring and snowfree trails...

    http://runesbike.com/pics/CRW_2946_m.jpg (800x533)

    (a handful more pics at http://runesbike.com/)

    I've been thinking of upgrading the components, but will those XTR disc brakes fit?

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    Yes, Please keep me in mind....

    Quote Originally Posted by IF52
    Hey Jerry,

    If my pal Todd will ever call me back, I may be able to talk him into selling his Monster. I doubt it is in good shape as just about every redneck in Suches GA has been riding it for the past decade, but who knows. The interesting thing about the bike is that it was the very last Monster to leave Somerville. I am not 100% sure it was the last built (pretty sure though), but I am sure it was the last one to leave Fat.
    I am interested in a Monster Fat in Medium. When ever it becomes available.

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    Quote Originally Posted by IF52
    By the way, anybody know the whereabout of any of the 3 1996 Fatlanta edition Yo Eddys?
    Outback Bikes in Atlanta has a Fatlanta decaled frame in the shop. Dunno if its one of the three you're asking about, but there's a big old do not touch sign on it.

    http://www.l5flyers.com/outback/index.asp
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    just to ad a view more pictures

    very rare leni fried painted fat tandem
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    the nicest pics as ever andreas

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    Eric,

    I am impressed that you have been able to get so much of the black off, looks cool, particularly as you were able to save the little bike guys.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rasaldul
    last but not least: fat chance titanium 1993

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    Marc,

    You have a great collection of frames! As if you did not know that already.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rasaldul
    fat chance monster fat, late 1991 - sold 4 weeks ago
    I have never seen another Monster in this color, looks beautiful.

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    NOS 89 frame

    what color is this frame?

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    More about Monster Fats

    Quote Originally Posted by jeff
    The Monster Fat also had wishbone stays.Pre Buck Shaver.Mine was a 1990/89.
    Jeff
    The earliest Monster Fats were Wicked frames & forks with different decals and lesser components. Later they received their own frame (monostay) although I do not recall the exact year without checking the catalogs. They also ended up with a non-Fat fork, probably at the same time.
    There were at least 3 different decals types that I am aware of, I have 2 of the 3.
    I have a NOS 87 Monster (Wicked frame) and a 91 Monster that is one of my main rides. Both are black, but I know of a couple of pink ones and the 93 catalog shows one in a mustard type color, very nice. And of course the lovely blue one posted here.

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    Fat Random Tandom

    Is this your tandem?

    I remember very well seeing pictures of this bike before. I have quite a few Fats but this bike would be very high on my wish list. Sweet!

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    Fat forks

    Chris Igleheart (ex-Fat employee) was liscensed some time back to make the Fat fork.
    BIKEMAN in Maine was selling them the last time that I checked.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fat chance guy
    Is this your tandem?

    I remember very well seeing pictures of this bike before. I have quite a few Fats but this bike would be very high on my wish list. Sweet!

    rick

    yes it is mine and i cost me almost a fortune to gain possesion of it it was stripped of almost every original part. so i removed the rest put it up as a frame and fork as a display bike. although it would better of if somebody uses it, but i already have another tandem so, no real use for that one. maybe i´m selling it in some time to come

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    Nice Ti Fat on E-bay this morning


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    oh yes. that fat ti is sweet

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    white Fat Tandem

    Quote Originally Posted by andy2
    yes it is mine and i cost me almost a fortune to gain possesion of it it was stripped of almost every original part. so i removed the rest put it up as a frame and fork as a display bike. although it would better of if somebody uses it, but i already have another tandem so, no real use for that one. maybe i´m selling it in some time to come

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    Quote Originally Posted by wooglin
    Outback Bikes in Atlanta has a Fatlanta decaled frame in the shop. Dunno if its one of the three you're asking about, but there's a big old do not touch sign on it.

    http://www.l5flyers.com/outback/index.asp
    Not only is that one of the 3 bikes, but that's the shop I used to manage. The shop is nothing like what it was when I worked there, nor is it under the same ownership. I think it sold two or three years ago. We used to sell outdoor gear too, but now I understand they only sell bikes.

    That red oval logo is mine though, I designed it back in '95 and the owners didn't officially switch to it until a few years after I left. The cleaned it up a little though, it used to have AMF in part of the logo, as in Adios Mother F****r, meaning we thought we were that fast on our bikes.

    Actually that do not touch sign was probably done by me too Funny how some things don't change.

    See if maybe they will let you take a couple pictures to put up on this thread. Or maybe they can put it up on their website. I still can't find any pictures of it at home. It's nothing special to look at, the only interest being that it was an official Fat limited edition.

    Hey, does Booger still work there or hang around little 5 at all?

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    Quote Originally Posted by IF52

    Hey, does Booger still work there or hang around little 5 at all?
    Outback isn't my lbs, I just swing by when I'm in Atlanta. Don't know Booger, and that's a name I'd remember. I have met the current owner (Peter) and he seems like a pretty nice guy. In fact, he just sold a bike to my GF a couple of months ago, so I'll ask her to swing by and maybe get some pics. I've actually thought about it myself, but I've never had my camera when I was there.
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    Quote Originally Posted by wooglin
    Outback isn't my lbs, I just swing by when I'm in Atlanta. Don't know Booger, and that's a name I'd remember. I have met the current owner (Peter) and he seems like a pretty nice guy. In fact, he just sold a bike to my GF a couple of months ago, so I'll ask her to swing by and maybe get some pics. I've actually thought about it myself, but I've never had my camera when I was there.
    Oh, you'd remember Booger if you saw him. He has eyes like a husky and the word BOOGER tatooed in 3 inch high black letters on his right forearm

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    Quote Originally Posted by fat chance guy
    what color is this frame?
    i don´t know - it looks like metallic grey but not even a color like this is documented in the catalogues. i asked wendyll at fat city about this frame.....all i got was this:

    "I know it is a Fat Chance, as in 69 degree head tube and 73 degree seat tube
    and longer chainstays -- and I think it was built in 1989. I'd have to check
    the serial number book for sure to verify the year built and the size -- but
    you guys can verify the size by measuring the seat tube from center of BB to
    top of where the top tube intersects the seat tube."


    the color of the 91 monster frame is more like violet, not blue. don´t know how this was called in somerville......

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    yup, loads more cool FAT pics filling up the page! sweet! keep them coming boys

    I've mailed that atlanta shop with the fatlanta, but if anyone could either post, or mail me pics direct would be much appreciated!.

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    Quote Originally Posted by scant
    I've mailed that atlanta shop with the fatlanta, but if anyone could either post, or mail me pics direct would be much appreciated!.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rasaldul
    fat chance 10th anniversary NOS
    What size is your 10th? There was a conversation some time back about most of them being made in smaller sizes and I don't recall seeing any Large ones.
    My 10th is a medium, I don't have any decent pics but perhaps will post one anyway.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DeeEight
    I never did nail down the exact model, won it on ebay as a full bike, resold it a month later as a frameset. Got conflicting info from other so called FatCity experts about it not being a fat chance product (on account of dropouts, raised seattube extension, decals placement, and serial number) and then after i sold it, my parents gave me a copy of "Ultimate Bicycle Book" first published in 1992 that has a pic of a Team Fat Chance Yo Eddy in it which was otherwise identical except for the seattube extension. But then others in this thread have fat's with extended seattubes as well, plus there's the store guy talking about how he wanted a limited run just for his shop, and I'm sure other dealers/customers ordered minor variations themselves.
    I remember something of the previous discussions regarding your bike's heritage, but not all of the details. In my experience the best way to date a Fat is by the serial number, but they are not always intuitive to interpret. And sometimes they were not too diligant about the numbers, hence some bikes with without serial numbers (I have one). And there are stories about bikes with goofy/profane phrases instead of serial numbers, never seen one, but it would not surprise me much. I'm sure that they never expected anyone to care about such things 10-20 years in the future.
    I know that you sold the bike, but do you know the serial number? There are some elements that would certainly help to name it as a Fat, perhaps the chainstays in particular. I don't know that they would have changed those, even for a custom bike. Perhaps the person that used to work at a shop that sold a lot of Fats back in the day could comment on this too.

    just my 2 cents worth.

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    hi all
    many thanks for the fatlanta pics!

    I'm not surprised by the fat frame numbers either, like their hang tags, its all part of the charm

    I wonder if anyone had an early fat chance titanium like mine? 005T2M (quite an early fat ti frame number?)was the frame number. The most noticeable difference being that the dropouts werent machined out, rather a simple solid construction.The sleeved tubes over the chainstays at the bottom bracket had some kinda rougth machining to them, like the later machined tapered tubesets & there was no anti chainsuck tabs for the toothpicks.
    Has anyone got such a fat chance ti?

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    Quote Originally Posted by scant
    hi all
    many thanks for the fatlanta pics!

    I'm not surprised by the fat frame numbers either, like their hang tags, its all part of the charm

    I wonder if anyone had an early fat chance titanium like mine? 005T2M (quite an early fat ti frame number?)was the frame number. The most noticeable difference being that the dropouts werent machined out, rather a simple solid construction.The sleeved tubes over the chainstays at the bottom bracket had some kinda rougth machining to them, like the later machined tapered tubesets & there was no anti chainsuck tabs for the toothpicks.
    Has anyone got such a fat chance ti?

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    mine is 100t3m so 95 bikes later and it already features the machined dropouts but still no toothpick but does yours have the welds around the headtube as a reinforcement?

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    Quote Originally Posted by scant
    many thanks for the fatlanta pics! t
    My pleasure. They were just arriving via email as you were typing your earlier message. Probably going to give IF52 flashbacks or something....
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    hi all

    yeh, was nice to see the fatlanta @ last

    my 93 fat ti did have the extra welding around the headtube as well. I've seen other fat Tis that have an extra weld along the outer sleeve down the downtube near the bottom bracket. Mine didnt have that extra weld either. Just progressions through time I suppose?!

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    Quote Originally Posted by wooglin-at-home
    My pleasure. They were just arriving via email as you were typing your earlier message. Probably going to give IF52 flashbacks or something....
    Oddly it made me wish I still worked there and gave me nightmares about working there

    Good to see it again though. I don't suppose they have that frame on offer?

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    Cool-blue Rhythm The fattest of Yos?

    Still hoping to get some stunning 10th or Ti photos, but in the mean time, ogling this will do. The grello yo is the only place left in the world I like to see "3d violet"... Stunning. Sure, it could still use a purple Ringle stem & Grafton Perches, but on the other hand, it does have the DA rear for that extra cog & quicker, more dangerous shifting action. Oooooo....


    ...Not mine (wish it was), snagged a handful of images of it off Kazaa a couple years ago.
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    Quote Originally Posted by flyingsuperpetis
    Still hoping to get some stunning 10th or Ti photos, but in the mean time, ogling this will do. The grello yo is the only place left in the world I like to see "3d violet"... Stunning. Sure, it could still use a purple Ringle stem & Grafton Perches, but on the other hand, it does have the DA rear for that extra cog & quicker, more dangerous shifting action. Oooooo....


    ...Not mine (wish it was), snagged a handful of images of it off Kazaa a couple years ago.
    i need it... i've always needed it.

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    Green Shock-a-Billy

    Quote Originally Posted by BikeDude
    My bike is currently parked in my bedroom (locked of course -- don't get any ideas ) waiting for spring and snowfree trails...

    http://runesbike.com/pics/CRW_2946_m.jpg (800x533)

    (a handful more pics at http://runesbike.com/)

    I've been thinking of upgrading the components, but will those XTR disc brakes fit?

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    A very nice Billy! I don't recall ever seeing another Billy in that color (Chameleon Metallica). It has always been a fave Fat color for me, have a Yo the same color (not too uncommon).
    What is the size, year & serial number, if you don't mind?

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    Quote Originally Posted by IF52
    Oddly it made me wish I still worked there and gave me nightmares about working there

    Good to see it again though. I don't suppose they have that frame on offer?
    Sorry IF, missed your post. If it came with the shop then Peter may not have much attachment to it (and judging from his use of a lovely, near pristine Waterford Paramount as his indoor trainer bike he's not much for sentimentalism). I'd say make an offer. What's the worst he can say?
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    hi guys

    quality grello pic. I really like that colour

    how many of the newer style billy were made? My friend webby has a red billy, kinda heavy being all steel, but exceptionally well put together!

    Dont tell me he'd consider selling the fatlanta! I dont have the $$$. darn it!

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    Quote Originally Posted by jeff
    The Monster Fat also had wishbone stays.Pre Buck Shaver.Mine was a 1990/89.
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    ...and of course the Bro Eddy and steel Yo Betty too...

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    First Flight/Serial Numbers

    I know that some of you are already familiar with First Flight Bikes. If not, I highly recommend checking out Jeff's site at FirstFlightBikes.com
    He has a really good bike shop and a great collection of bikes (including some Fats).
    You can also check out the Vintage ATB site that he started on YahooGroups, it's called FirstFlight28677. You can access it from his site if you like. Jeff has done a lot of great things for our sport; sponsors trailwork at a local state park, puts on an annual bike show, etc.
    The VATB site has some cool photos as well, lots of Fats!

    Another thing that Jeff maintains on his site is a listing of Fat serial numbers for the purpose of helping folks to date their bikes. Some are very easy, some not so easy. It is also interesting (to some of us anyway) to try and figure out the logic that they used.
    So if it is not too much trouble, if everyone on this list sent in the numbers for all of their Fats, it would contribute quite a bit to the database.

    Thanks much!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rumpfy
    Why am I not suprised this to be your post Scant!

    My only Fat right now is an older Wicked(?)...although I can't be sure on that. It was a theft recovery frame with a quick rattle can paint job over the original Grellow. I've taken some laquer thinner to it and it's worked ok thus far, but some or the original decals are being lost as a result...
    Most of the mini mtb'er decals all over the frame are in pretty good shape though. I'm only half way down with the rub down.
    Before and after pics below...
    Of course, I'm sorta looking for a nice early 90's Yo Eddy Team if anyone want's to humor me.
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    Eric,

    I don't see Wicked stickers on the bike, did you find any? Is there a W in the serial number? You can always measure the head tube angles to confirm that it is a Wicked.

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    hi guys, remeber the gorgeous little fat chance ti (ibis ti stem) pictured above that was form sale on ebay. well he pulled the sale, normally that kinda thing annoys me, but check out what he had to say

    "On Jan-20-04 at 09:05:27 PST, seller added the following information:

    PLEASE READ!
    Well, after all the encouraging emails from Fat Chance fans from around the world, I've decided to keep my bike. I was selling it because I really, really am desperate for cash. But, it's only money, right? And the kind, inspirational, and humorous emails from all of you convinced me that selling my bike was the wrong thing to do.

    A special shout out to the guy who sent me the link to the "how to sell your kidney" website. I guess I'm not quite that desparate yet!

    I apologize for teasing those of you who bid so far and those of you I believe were still going to bid. I have to admit, there's a curious side of me that's dying to know what the closing bid would have been. But for now, we'll just have to speculate.

    I'm writing this so people can get the message that this auction will close in the next day or so. Didn't want to just close it up, because interested parties wouldn't know what's up.

    Scientists believe that wolves, penguins and killer whales mate for life. Maybe we should add die-hard Fat Chance owners to the list.

    Thanks!"

    think that says it all really

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    Quote Originally Posted by useyourdagger
    And she told me last week that they're trying to restart manufacturing for the Big One Inch forks. No more bikes, though.
    I have a '91 Team Yo Eddy that I no longer have the fork for. Any idea how serious they are about that? I hard it said before but it never materialized. I'd love to get one made to fit this bike, but with disk tabs. All the ones I've found are too long. RIght now it has a Cannondale fork on it (I know...I know).

    LOVE that bike. I'll post pics when I find them.

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    I was a Fat Chance dealer back in '86ish and had some problems with the BB shell and head tube "stretching". I'd send the frames back and they would braze some extra material in there then ream it out. I remember seeing one of the bikes I sold about ten years later and the guy riding it was showing me the "loose" headset, cups were swimming in the headtube!

    Anybody else familiar with this?
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    Quote Originally Posted by EricH.
    I was a Fat Chance dealer back in '86ish and had some problems with the BB shell and head tube "stretching". I'd send the frames back and they would braze some extra material in there then ream it out. I remember seeing one of the bikes I sold about ten years later and the guy riding it was showing me the "loose" headset, cups were swimming in the headtube!

    Anybody else familiar with this?
    I have an 86 Fat that I bought as a complete bike a while back and when I took it apart, the head set cups basically fell out. I was told that there were two different types/sizes of 1 inch headsets (1 was BMX? maybe), but I never really checked it out. My plan is to have it painted but I have not yet done so, and so the frame just hangs in my garage.
    I have never heard of this problem, but think that I will do some measuring of the frame now, just for curiosity's sake.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fat chance guy
    I have an 86 Fat that I bought as a complete bike a while back and when I took it apart, the head set cups basically fell out. I was told that there were two different types/sizes of 1 inch headsets (1 was BMX? maybe), but I never really checked it out. My plan is to have it painted but I have not yet done so, and so the frame just hangs in my garage.
    I have never heard of this problem, but think that I will do some measuring of the frame now, just for curiosity's sake.

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    I was seeing it more with the BB shells than headsets. Maybe it was '85. Had to send a few of them back, I probably only sold less than a dozen.

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    WICKED this FatCityCycle

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    - Salsa Stem (120mm - 10°)
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    - XT Sharkfin
    - Cook Bros. Cranks with Shimano BioPace
    - XT Pedals
    - XT 36° Hubs "BLACK" with Araya RM20 Rims und DT 2.0-1.8 Spokes,Black Alu Nippels, with American Classic QR's
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    Hi,

    there is my first Fat yo eddy! It was a 1993 Model and now without paintjob! It was an littele hole in the seattube. It`s new welded on the seattube and fork (for ahead)!
    Have one an original buttom bracket with spindle and bearings for this frame?

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    Thanks for all the excellent Fat photos. Here's my modest contribution:



    1989 Wicked. It was my primary ride until three years ago, and I still get out on it a fair bit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fat chance guy
    Eric,

    I don't see Wicked stickers on the bike, did you find any? Is there a W in the serial number? You can always measure the head tube angles to confirm that it is a Wicked.

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    I have a feeling that it's just a Fat Chance ______. The serial number for this guy is under the der. cable guide rivited to the bottom of the bb. I'm still removing all the old paint and trying to keep the orig. stuff as unharmed as I can....I may be able to see part of it.
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    hi all
    nice pics! keep them coming!

    replying to the question asked above.
    yes wendyl's researching the possibility of producing fat chance big 1 inch & unicrown forks. still some time away yet, if it does happen.
    finger crossed

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    My Wicked

    Later Wicked, repainted. mixed componentry, some new, some old. Still used on a regular basis, on and off road.


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    does any body now any fatchances for sale

    hi dear i am ricardo from holland probaly the bigest fat fan over here
    could any body tell me if there are any fats for sale i hope too here from guys you soon

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    Yummy!

    Quote Originally Posted by flyingsuperpetis
    Still hoping to get some stunning 10th or Ti photos, but in the mean time, ogling this will do. The grello yo is the only place left in the world I like to see "3d violet"... Stunning. Sure, it could still use a purple Ringle stem & Grafton Perches, but on the other hand, it does have the DA rear for that extra cog & quicker, more dangerous shifting action. Oooooo....


    ...Not mine (wish it was), snagged a handful of images of it off Kazaa a couple years ago.
    This is the exact Yo Eddy frameset I've always wanted in terms of colour, size, forks, everything. I've been looking for one for quite a while now but haven't seen anything NOS or nearly-NOS. You've made my day showing these pics!

    Agree about the purple, it contrasts perfectly with the grellow. It needs a purple Ringle seatpost too.

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    hi guys.
    very nice 93 fat chance ti there have you thought about getting the lower fork leg sprayed the same colour blue as the decals? This is how FAT sold the fat ti & it looks sweet

    like the wicked above. non standard sticker in an old style ibis way? very nice all the same!

    richardo, try & make your way to the singlespeed world champs in berlin later in the year. Will be a big fat chance contingent there :P

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    My Campy and Bullseye Shocka here. I also have a Yo, Monster and what Wendyll claimed was the first Chris Chance road frame with the retro decals outside of hers and an employees. I'm thinking of parting with the Shocka while people still know and have interest in the brand.
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    [QUOTE=Wm. L.]... and what Wendyll claimed was the first Chris Chance road frame with the retro decals outside of hers and an employees.QUOTE]

    Is the road chance, the '70s version or the '90 version?

    A couple of Slim Chance frames sold recently on eBay for pretty good money. I have a later model Chris Chance and love it.

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    [QUOTE=laffeaux]
    Quote Originally Posted by Wm. L.
    ... and what Wendyll claimed was the first Chris Chance road frame with the retro decals outside of hers and an employees.QUOTE]

    Is the road chance, the '70s version or the '90 version?

    A couple of Slim Chance frames sold recently on eBay for pretty good money. I have a later model Chris Chance and love it.
    It's a 90's bike. I was told it got the old decals because it was enough different to not be a Slim, and that my paint ideas went best with those decals. Then they told me they liked it and that's the scheme the production models would be. Who knows the real truth, but I enjoyed getting to know the Chances, and love the nice riding and good looking bikes. The bike is silver with candy blue clear over it and a Chorus and Record parts mix with all parts AL (silver) finish. Also proof that Campy breaks in while Shimano breaks. No problems with the Record shifters, but our Shimano bike of same vintage had trashed shifters.

    I'd be curious to know what folks think my Shocka would be worth.

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    Yo Eddy just got sent to Paint......

    I just shipped out my 1992 Team Yo Eddy to Air Art for custom paint. Since it is now my wifes bike, it will become pink with long purple fade. Hope to post picturs of it next month, should turn out nice. Russ painted for Mountain Goat back in the day.

    Soon... very soon....

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    HI JERRY, look real forward to the pic

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    Beautiful Yo Eddy on E-bay three color fade, never ridden

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