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    Quote Originally Posted by scant
    Doug/apex,
    just checked your link. You might wanna check with wendyl about using FAT logos etc, pretty certain she still owns all the patents. just a thought

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    I will definitely try to contact Wendyl this week about the site, I certainly don't want to upset anyone. FWIW, there are no patents on logos or marks, and these particular icons have expired/dead trademarks since 1999. I certainly won't be showing them in a negative light or trying to sell any product with their common law identities, so I wouldn't think it will be an issue. As a designer, I have an appreciation for branding and what they mean to companies, even those that no longer exist, and rest-assured, there will be great care taken to keep things as they would have approved.

    This site will just be a way to strengthen the mystique of a small bike company that we all hold in high regard and still support. I hope everyone who has an interest in Fat City Cycles will take a liking to the new community I'm building.



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    Quote Originally Posted by apexspeed
    I will definitely try to contact Wendyl this week about the site, I certainly don't want to upset anyone. FWIW, there are no patents on logos or marks, and these particular icons have expired/dead trademarks since 1999. I certainly won't be showing them in a negative light or trying to sell any product with their common law identities, so I wouldn't think it will be an issue. As a designer, I have an appreciation for branding and what they mean to companies, even those that no longer exist, and rest-assured, there will be great care taken to keep things as they would have approved.

    This site will just be a way to strengthen the mystique of a small bike company that we all hold in high regard and still support. I hope everyone who has an interest in Fat City Cycles will take a liking to the new community I'm building.



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    this thread has 200 replies. if it's not reason enough to start building yo's again , at least there should be a fat chance site.
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    Quote Originally Posted by colker1
    this thread has 200 replies. if it's not reason enough to start building yo's again , at least there should be a fat chance site.
    keep me posted...
    I"m interested. I did pick up the YO last week..just going through it now and taking care of some issues that I had with the current setup..anyone wanna swap some xtr 8spd shifters and rear der. for ESP? I'm not a twistie...

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    I'd certainly love to see a FAT dedicated site & I'm impressed that you've taken it on!
    I'd love to help out, perhaps as a moderator?

    I thought it only polite to ask wendyl, I know you respect this

    let me know if you need any help/ info

    colker, perhaps the fact that you cant buy FATs anymore is part of the appeal?

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    Absolutely, on all counts!

    Once everything has started to take shape, I will get everyone here in as soon as there is something to see. I'm excited, because communities like this, if built correctly, can run themselves, and be a great place to meet people and share ideas and experiences. I'm looking forward to seeing it grow.

    More soon...


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    Doug, where are you based? I'm guessing in the US? I'm in the UK.
    did you know that 1/3 of all FAT sales went to germany. explains ebay.de a lot

    keep us informed dude, infact private mail me ;D

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    Quote Originally Posted by scant
    apex/doug
    I'd certainly love to see a FAT dedicated site & I'm impressed that you've taken it on!
    I'd love to help out, perhaps as a moderator?

    I thought it only polite to ask wendyl, I know you respect this

    let me know if you need any help/ info

    colker, perhaps the fact that you cant buy FATs anymore is part of the appeal?

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    hmmm... there';s more than being no more.. it's always been a Fat or no Fat fro a lot of people. the yo was THE steel bike when we thought of woods riding. at the same the time, there was the high price, the bad rep when it came to warr. and the bad karma with the serotta merge.
    even w/the IF deluxe looking like a modernized eddy, i don't feel the same as when looking at the skull and bones decal...
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    "hmmm... there';s more than being no more.. "

    dude! You SOOOO dont need to tell ME that ;D

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    another Yo

    Here is another Fat. This is my 1994 Yo Eddie. I bought this bike new as a frame from Outback Bikes in Atlanta. It was originally a white to yellow fade, with Manitou 3 fork, Grafton cranks, Ringle seatpost and stem, Avid tri-align 3 brakes, Chris King headset, Nuke Proof wheels, onza pedals, etc. I have been looking for an old picture to scan, but have not found one yet. I will edit this post or post again when I find an old picture.

    Here it is now, built as a singlespeed, repainted, after thousands of miles, and with all of the components replaced, except the Chris King headset. Seatpost is courtesy of flyingsuperpetis via Ebay.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Al.
    Here it is now, built as a singlespeed, repainted, after thousands of miles, and with all of the components replaced, except the headset. Seatpost is courtesy of flyingsuperpetis via Ebay.
    Nice paint!!

    (and the Chris King ad below is bogus... arghhh....)

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    Even with there being no more produced...the Yo Eddy on eBay right now has gone up a number of times with a silly price tag of $3900 opening bid. Just plain foolish IMO...

    Yetifan.com is a perfect example of a site that's grown quickly and collected a great following of Yeti owners across the board.
    I don't see why a Fat site of similar nature won't do the same.
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    the $3900 FAT sellers prices generally are far from realistic

    andy @ yetifan has done a very good job. I look forward to a FAT alternative

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    Quote Originally Posted by scant
    the $3900 FAT sellers prices generally are far from realistic

    andy @ yetifan has done a very good job. I look forward to a FAT alternative

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    I sean that Fat City on ebay as well starting @ 3900$ ,totally obserd. Almost as obserd as listing it as a 2001 model. Get a grip people.

    The Fat site sounds like a cool idea. I know I would check it out a few times a week. Heck you never know. It could lead to a COG gathering/ride in the future. Anythings possible.

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    Yes, a Fat site would be very nice! Although I am very positive about the initiative I think there is an obstacle to overcome. YetiFan.com can be considered as a success. The difference between Yeti and Fat is that Yeti is still there. There are companies out there who benefit from a initiatives like YetiFan.com! So YetiFan is supported by a retailer.

    Who want support a Fat site? Companies who earn their money with the existence of Fats and they who want to attract the attention from people who visit a Fat site. Ebay? An ecommerce company?

    I think it is advisable to solve this. Otherwise in the long run the site could be more likely end up like fatfans.de - zero activity.

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    hmm. i'd hope that the FAT site is run by people who do it purely for the love of FAT & have the means (financial, work in web design etc) to be able to run a FAT site with no other motives. As you mentioned certainly as FAT is no longer a business concern thenI cant see any other reasons behind it!

    I know andy @ yetifan well & fully appreciate that he does get some backing for the site (not as much as you'd imagine tho. In the early days it was totally self funded!)

    As long as people have an interest in riding, buying, talking about & meeting other FAT cogs then theres justification for a site. If a site isnt viable then we'll just have to stick with this thread!

    fatfans.de tho well laid out. I find has a difficult to work with forum. Its also not that well known(?)

    anyway! gees this is all getting a bit heavy! Does any1 know of any limited type FAT spray jobs? wendyl mentioned that they did a few for certain bike shows. just curious after seeing that signed FAT firstflightbikes have

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    For the record, the motives behind the forthcoming site is purely enthusiast-driven. I have no financial gain in mind (obviously, as most of the things that will be promoted are long out of production by companies no longer around.

    The site should be financially self-supportive, and really not a monetary burden, other than my time (which seems to becoming more valuable by the day). I know it is easy to assume the worst in people right off the bat without knowing who will be responsible for managing everything. I'm not looking to get anything out of it, though it would make me really happy if it were a vehicle to find me a replacement of my old violet Yo, but that's not my motivation.

    Once I was out riding by myself on a local forrest preserve trail when I happened along a guy headed in the opposite direction on a Fat Ti. We both instantly stopped and started talking about the bikes we were riding. An hour later, and I was back on the trail, contemplating how cool it was that someone else felt the same thing I had felt about my bike. It was one of those happenstance instances that made me beam with joy for the hours following the meeting of a stranger with only a bike frame in common.

    That's the feeling I want to recreate by building a new community on the web for these bikes. Who knows what would have happened if I would have had access to to the web when I was riding in 1994? It may be 10 years late, but I still think that a community centered around this old company would survive pretty well without too much effort.

    Stay tuned...


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    Great to hear that you are such a passionate person! Already bookmarked FatCogs.com. I am really looking forward to the launch of the site. You are really performing a great job for the whole Fatcommunity and for those interested in (vintage-)bikes in general. Thanks!

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    Doug,
    my comments werent a personal attack dude. Just re-reading my comments I didnt come across quite as I intended!

    all power to you if you make this thing happen As I've mentioned previously I'd be glad to help (moderating helping me through the working day as it were!)

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    Quote Originally Posted by scant
    Doug,
    my comments werent a personal attack dude. Just re-reading my comments I didnt come across quite as I intended!
    Not at all! I just wanted to make sure that anyone who sees what I am trying to accomplish doesn't get the wrong idea. I don't want anyone to think that there is some underlying hidden reason why I would do something like this. We're well past the era of people getting rich off the internet.

    ApexSpeed.com is a group of sites I created about 4 years ago that have been self-supporting and self-policed. I can't devote nearly as much time as I would like to creating a catalog of information around it, but the forums themselves do a great job of bringing together racers from all over North America and beyond.

    We're all after the same thing! It's all goooooood.


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    Good job!

    Ok, the new forums are up and running, but in what I would consider a beta version "test" mode. Everything should be functioning as normal, so go ahead and register and see if everything works as it should. More to come as I figure out how phpBB is managed and constructed. It's pretty cool so far, so I'm hoping for great things for the forums.

    For now... http://www.fatcogs.com/phpbb/index.php


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    hey doug, signed up. checked my mail, followed the link. but came up with this:

    The page you were looking for might have been removed, had its name changed, or is temporarily unavailable.

    Please try the following:

    If you typed the page address in the Address bar, make sure that it is spelled correctly and CaSe Correct.

    Click the Refresh/Reload button, or try again later.

    Open the home page, and then try to link to the page you want.
    If you still cannot find the page, please notify the referring URL of this missing link.

    JUST thought you should know! user name scant (no surprises!) if you want to check it out!

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    Ok, I had incorrectly set some permissions, but everything should be working now. If you encounter any problems or you have any ideas for the site or forums, send me an e-mail to doug@apexspeed.com.

    Cheers,

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    ok, so just incase you're not all checking the www.fatcogs.com website

    you've got 1 (sensible!) question to ask chris chance. what would it be?
    I'll try to get the best questions answerred

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    New question here. Best Suspension Fork for 87 Wicked?

    I have an 87 Wicked, and have been running an old Manitou SX fork, and wish to upgrade to the best oil damped fork that I can without hurting the handling. My original fork is 16 1/4" long, the Manitou is 17 1/4" and the newer forks are 1 inch longer still. What should I do? this is my only and regular ride and i ride an extremely gnarly trail each week. After reading some of this site, it makes me want to put the straight fork back on, but maybe I'll wait until i have another bike first. I bought the bike new in 1987, and have loved it dearly ever since. Upgraded over the years, and now run a Deore XT crank, SIS XTderaillers, Acic and Ringle canti's, WTB Laser V Team saddle, but stil use the same flat bars that came with the bike. Went to a threadless stem in 1997, and sut in an aheadset tapered roller headset then. Switched to a shorter spindle and moved the collars to the inside. Creaked until i secured it with some locktite bearing lock compound. That solved the problem. Also, soldered a penny to the bottom of the seat tube insde the BB and then added a zerk grease fitting. Then removed the inner seals, and now just periodically give it a squirt of grease every now and then. Wipe off the excess and good to go. What are your recommendations on shorter forks? Anybody running the new Marzocchi's MX Comp forks that come in 1"? Thanks.

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    Next time one of these appears...

    Boneritus Majorus:

    http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...e=STRK:MEWA:IT




    ...or a 93 Ti.






    ...but mostly the 10th.
    Nothing left to lose, & half mad.

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    That was a sweet bike but think of all the money you didnt spend

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    that fat 10th was mint. with shipping & import duty to the UK I totally couldnt afford it.
    Not surprised it made 1.9K$ tho

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    Single speed conversion for '93 Yo Eddy

    No clue how to upload pics either - sorry because it's still a sweet looking ride.

    I'm converting a '93 Yo Eddy to a SS with a Soulcraft conversion kit. I'd love to tweak it a bit more by replacing a very tired Mag 21 but can't seem to find many options because of a 1" headtube.

    Anyone with any ideas where to find a big one inch rigid fork or a 1" steer tube suspension fork with a similar crown height? Also looking for a 1" quill Salsa (or similar) 0-15 degree, 10cm stem.

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    magura & marzoke both still make 1in steerer forks, not sure how long they are tho.
    salsas stems on ebay a lot

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    Quote Originally Posted by plasticman
    No clue how to upload pics either - sorry because it's still a sweet looking ride.

    I'm converting a '93 Yo Eddy to a SS with a Soulcraft conversion kit. I'd love to tweak it a bit more by replacing a very tired Mag 21 but can't seem to find many options because of a 1" headtube.

    Anyone with any ideas where to find a big one inch rigid fork or a 1" steer tube suspension fork with a similar crown height? Also looking for a 1" quill Salsa (or similar) 0-15 degree, 10cm stem.

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    Take a look at the for sale section over here: http://www.fatcogs.com There is at least one rigid fork for sale I think. And for suspension forks, Marzocchi still makes a 1".

    As for the stem, check ebay.

    Good luck

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    Hi guys

    after conversations with wendyl, the success of this thread (number of hits!) & the new www.fatcogs.com site. Just wondering if anyone would be interested in a new run of the old t-shirts? Let us know the favoured designs & lets eee what we can do

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    Quote Originally Posted by scant
    Hi guys

    Let us know the favoured designs & lets eee what we can do

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    Ahhh, just in time. Just retired my ol Fat Chance team shirt, still my favourite design, with the yo ed burst logo on the left breast & the flourescent grello & Purple zigzag & all the symbology & brands on the back. Loud, bright, colourful, grafton, ringle, etc... quintessentially Fat.

    Nice work, let us know how it goes!
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    Quote Originally Posted by flyingsuperpetis
    Ahhh, just in time. Just retired my ol Fat Chance team shirt, still my favourite design, with the yo ed burst logo on the left breast & the flourescent grello & Purple zigzag & all the symbology & brands on the back. Loud, bright, colourful, grafton, ringle, etc... quintessentially Fat.

    Count me in. I have a ratty, worn out, should be a dish rag by now Fat shirt just like this one that needs to be replaced.

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    Decked out Wicked

    1990 Wicked Fat Chance 18"
    Bullseye cranks, Bontrager Bonded Composite fork, mostly XT. White cranks and saddle helped avoid the "none more black" tag.

    Those bikes had very short headtubes. I remember the Bontrager guy who took the order for the fork didn't believe it was going on an 18" bike until I told him the brand. Really nice fork, but just not quite as sweet as the Brodie Gatorblade.
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    Black w/white Wicked

    [QUOTE=GonaSovereign]1990 Wicked Fat Chance 18"
    Bullseye cranks, Bontrager Bonded Composite fork, mostly XT. White cranks and saddle helped avoid the "none more black" tag.

    Very nice Wicked, don't know if I have seen a black with white decals Fat before, but I really like it. Especially with the white cranks and saddle.
    Much nicer than the common black with yellow paint scheme.

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    yup! theres pretty cool. feel free to post pics on www.fatcogs.com as well

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    Not mine (and not for sale)....but it looks well used:

    http://www.bikecult.com/works/archiv...chanceYEB.html
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    remove the 300 stickers & thats a real nice bike ;D

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    Live At The Sswc 2004 In Berlin:
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    nevermind...
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    got my 10th anniversary finished so far, don't know if it will be the last setup. purple is definitely back in town.........









    p.s.: sorry for the big images, i hope you're on the fast line
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    Quote Originally Posted by rasaldul
    got my 10th anniversary finished so far, don't know if it will be the last setup. purple is definitely back in town.........
    p.s.: sorry for the big images, i hope you're on the fast line

    Wow....that's the most well thought out build I've ever seen.
    Stunning.
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    rasa the pics dont work for me! (page loads up fine & fast tho )

    can u mail me the pics direct or post them up on www.fatcogs.com ;D

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    Quote Originally Posted by scant
    rasa the pics dont work for me! (page loads up fine & fast tho )

    can u mail me the pics direct or post them up on www.fatcogs.com ;D

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    @eric
    thank you, it was a lot of work building a bike with sunglasses on - purple is a real dangerous color.....

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    try to reload, i just moved them to my own server.

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    now its working... that is truly beautiful. v.v. nice

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    Fat Chance logo in B&W....

    I came across this in the MBAction Oct. 1990 issue.. I don't know if it's already been posted somewhere on this thread, but I can't read 244 posts (WOW!!!!!) to find out... I know that, somewhere- some place- some mag, I have seen this in color..... If this is already in this thread (or not), please let me know.. Thanks....
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    Damn that tenth is hotness...

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    My ride

    Had a 1990 Wicked-Fat, then bought this one (NOS) from a shop in Sommerville in 1997 I think. Best riding hardtail I ever had.

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    nice M3 as well ;D

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    Quote Originally Posted by scant
    hi guys, remeber the gorgeous little fat chance ti (ibis ti stem) pictured above that was form sale on ebay. well he pulled the sale, normally that kinda thing annoys me, but check out what he had to say

    "On Jan-20-04 at 09:05:27 PST, seller added the following information:

    PLEASE READ!
    Well, after all the encouraging emails from Fat Chance fans from around the world, I've decided to keep my bike. I was selling it because I really, really am desperate for cash. But, it's only money, right? And the kind, inspirational, and humorous emails from all of you convinced me that selling my bike was the wrong thing to do.

    A special shout out to the guy who sent me the link to the "how to sell your kidney" website. I guess I'm not quite that desparate yet!

    I apologize for teasing those of you who bid so far and those of you I believe were still going to bid. I have to admit, there's a curious side of me that's dying to know what the closing bid would have been. But for now, we'll just have to speculate.

    I'm writing this so people can get the message that this auction will close in the next day or so. Didn't want to just close it up, because interested parties wouldn't know what's up.

    Scientists believe that wolves, penguins and killer whales mate for life. Maybe we should add die-hard Fat Chance owners to the list.

    Thanks!"

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    I just got an 87 wicked 19.5 with period correct xt group. Araya Rm20 rims, shimano 600 headset that takes the wavy wrenches, u-brake, motorcycle style levers, etc.
    Frame has nasty paint. Should I leave or re-finish?

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    Quote Originally Posted by bootsie_cat
    I just got an 87 wicked 19.5 with period correct xt group. Araya Rm20 rims, shimano 600 headset that takes the wavy wrenches, u-brake, motorcycle style levers, etc.
    Frame has nasty paint. Should I leave or re-finish?
    Was that the black Craigslist jobbie?
    Personally, I say leave it and ride it unless you plan to make a complete NOS garage queen out of it!
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    About my Wicked

    Hi everyone!

    I was debating for the past few months about getting a new mountain bike but after some heavy thinking I decided to breathe new life into my Fat Chance Wicked!

    Anyway, after doing some research I have come across some questions that I need answering and I was hoping all you Fat lovers could lend a hand. Here they are:

    1. I purchased my Wicked in the Fall of 1991 but I don't know if they sold me a 1990, 1991, or 1992. How can I tell? My serial number is 381W11 and the paint job is a solid purple. I purchased the frame only and built the bike on my own.

    2. In my effort to breathe new life into my bike I have decided to give it a new paint job. Can anyone point me to a color chart for the colors I can choose from? Is there such a thing or, perhaps, there are too many to list. Any color recommendations?

    3. After I paint my bike I'll need new decals, can anyone point me in the right direction as to where I can get those? I've seen the name 'yobetty' on this thread as a name of a seller (Chris's Ex) on eBay...does anyone have a number I can call instead?

    Thanks a ton!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Piet
    Hi everyone!

    I was debating for the past few months about getting a new mountain bike but after some heavy thinking I decided to breathe new life into my Fat Chance Wicked!

    Anyway, after doing some research I have come across some questions that I need answering and I was hoping all you Fat lovers could lend a hand. Here they are:

    1. I purchased my Wicked in the Fall of 1991 but I don't know if they sold me a 1990, 1991, or 1992. How can I tell? My serial number is 381W11 and the paint job is a solid purple. I purchased the frame only and built the bike on my own.

    2. In my effort to breathe new life into my bike I have decided to give it a new paint job. Can anyone point me to a color chart for the colors I can choose from? Is there such a thing or, perhaps, there are too many to list. Any color recommendations?

    3. After I paint my bike I'll need new decals, can anyone point me in the right direction as to where I can get those? I've seen the name 'yobetty' on this thread as a name of a seller (Chris's Ex) on eBay...does anyone have a number I can call instead?

    Thanks a ton!

    Piet
    On 1: Isn't it 381W1L ? Large Wicked from '91.
    On 2: As far as I know there doesn't excist such as a colorchart. I realize it would be very helpfull if there was one. Some did their own invetigation on the color of their FAT and probably they could help you out on their specific color. For future it is maybe smart to collect those details in one thread @ FatCogs.
    On3: Scant could help you out.

    You could also try FatCogs.

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    On 1: To be sure I checked First Flight: http://www.firstflightbikes.com/fat.htm Scroll down.

    With the frameno. you are mentioning it maybe also could be a '90 and than probably in 21". It seems that the 90 systems differs form 91, 92. FAT used multiple systems through time; pretty confusing.

    Edit: I now realize it isn't logical what I assume (than there should be an 0 before the 1 and there is a 1 too). Another feature of FAT frameno.; sometimes lack of logics.
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    FAT frame numbers are somewhat of a black art! wendyl must get sick of being asked about them! but she always makes sence of them!

    I would also love a colour chart! so would all the other FAT cogs! although I can usually find out the colour mix involved to create FAT paint (eg grellow 1/4 fluro yellow, 3/4 fluro green mixed into clear) I dont know the actual paint codes/ RAL? BS numbers.

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    [QUOTE=Elevation12,000]On 1: Isn't it 381W1L ? Large Wicked from '91.

    The Wicked was never sized in "Small, Medium, Large" as were the Monster, Yo, etc.

    By the serial number I would guess that you have a 91 Wicked, 21" size, does that sound close? The Wicked is meaured center-to-top, unlike many other Fat models.As everyone has said, it is somewhat of an art to decipher these things.

    I have never heard of a color chart, would be neat to have, but I would be surprised if one existed.

    Wendyll can supply all sorts of decals, but she does not have the early Wicked decals. Not having a 91, I would expect for your bike to have the solid black decals? If so, there are a number of sources to have them made, mostly places that will also paint your bike.
    There is another thread about that on here somewhere...

    Good luck with your bike, one of my personal favorites. Post pictures if you can.

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    Thanks for the info

    Thanks everyone,

    Rick you are probably right about it being a 21" from 1991. I'll make sure to take some before and after pictures for you all to see.

    Cheers!

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    i found this on the Joe Bell custom bike painting web sight.

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    That's pretty cool! Since I am in the beginning stages of painting my bike it makes me want to do something fun like that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Piet
    That's pretty cool! Since I am in the beginning stages of painting my bike it makes me want to do something fun like that.
    i kinda remember seeing this bike come into my bike shop when i worked at newbery park bike shop. the owner is a big collector. he might even be here on this forum for all i know.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 2ManyPlaces
    I came across this in the MBAction Oct. 1990 issue.. I don't know if it's already been posted somewhere on this thread, but I can't read 244 posts (WOW!!!!!) to find out... I know that, somewhere- some place- some mag, I have seen this in color..... If this is already in this thread (or not), please let me know.. Thanks....

    I remember seeing this paint job on a Fat in the Wheelsmith Shop in Palo Alto, CA and drooling over it. I'd love to see some pics too! Anyone??

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    Need help upgrading my components

    Hi everyone,

    I would like to upgrade my components on my 1991 Wicked. It currently has seven speed with thumb shifters. I would like to upgrade to 9 speed. I am really a novice as far as components go and I was hoping someone could offer some help especially in regards to compatibility. The bike is old (but I love it) and I don't want to put a lot of money into it so I was thinking Shimano LX components. I already have a set of V-brakes on the bike so I won't need those. I believe this is what I need: front and rear derailleur, dual control levers, 9 speed rear cassette, front chain ring and cranks. The thing I need help with is compatibility. I am looking on ebay for the parts and I see a lot of M580, M570, etc. Are all these compatible with one another? Should I buy only M580 or M570 components? Will any of these work with V-brakes or are some disc brake compatible only? Is there anything else I need to look out for when I upgrade? Does anyone out there have these parts that they'd like to unload?

    Any advice would be much appreciated.

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    personally i would consider dual control levers a downgrade to the thumb shifters.

    LX components would be fine. just get what you can afford. you will need to get a new rear hub or wheel too if you want to slide a 9 speed cassette in it. other than that there really are no compatibility issues with your old parts.
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    vdubbusrider,

    Why do you consider that a downgrade? Do you think I should stick with my 7 speed setup? And, just to clarify...my thumb shifters are over-the-bar thumb shifters (not sure if there is any other kind so I thought I'd point this out). Thanks for pointing out the rear hub, I got that already but didn't mention it.

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    really i suppose it's personal prefference but i hate the way they feel and operate. also, the rapid rise rear deraillers is something you will never see me touch. it's not that i'm a retro grouch or anything it's that i just dont like the way they work. the thumb shifters have really sharp nice indexing and work flawlessly.

    rapidrise shifters and Sram XO shifters would be the only thing i would go with if i were upgrading to 9 speed. well, maybe Paul thumbies would be neat way to go too to preserve a little retro style and still have 9 speed. honestly now that i think about it dual control levers will look really out of place on an old fat Chance.
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    You've piqued my interest! What are Paul thumbies? And, I agree with you, the thumb shifters have always worked great but my rear derailleur has been bent too many times and, besides, I wouldn't mind 9 speeds.

    As far as the retro-look goes, let's be honest, the bike is not going to look retro anymore...in fact it hasn't for years. It has had a shock, v-brakes, and Spinergys which I don't consider retro. Do you? In addition, I am in the process of getting it repainted so, hopefully, it's going to look a little more like a new bike.

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    I agree with Vdub. You should keep those thumbshifters. They're more reliable than many of the newer shifters. If you're trying to get some more gears on that bike, why not go to 8 speed? That would probably be cheaper as well. Things you would need for sure are;

    1 A new rear hub that will fit an eight speed cassette (any 9 speed hub should work) and then get spokes and a rim on it.

    2 An eight speed cassette.

    3 An eight speed chain.

    You can probably keep your thumbshifters assuming they are deore or deore xt with an extra click for an eigth gear. Your derailleur should work. Many 7 speed derailleurs work fine with 8 speed. My old xt 7speed one works great with 8 speeds. 7speed chainrings also should work with an 8 speed chain. No need to replace them unless they're worn out. However, If they show considerable wear I'd replace them, because you may have trouble running a new chain on worn chainrings.

    If you decide to switch to 8 speeds, my advice would be to buy the parts you know you need, install them and see how everything works before spending more money.

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    the Paul Components Thumbies are on this site:

    http://www.paulcomp.com/

    they use a 9 speed road bike bar end shifter to make a mountian bike top bar thumb shifter.
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    Fat Chance Clones A.K.A. Concorde Mountain Bikes

    I was going through the Fat Chance forums and I saw Deelights picture of his team chance and I know that the bike that I had in 92' was a Concorde Mirage (with Deore LX components, Ritchey and Zoom parts) that I bought from Spoke n' Attire (no longer in business) in Calgary and went to another dealer (same as Spoke's position) that sold Fat's. That dealer told me that the Concorde and the Fat's sold in Canada are built by another company and imported under Velo Sports Canada. Seems to me that the design was licensed and the design was constantly used for Concorde's line before they disappeared in 1995. I know that the cable routing was identical and the use of Tange's strut forks are the same as the American builds. The increase height of the seat tube was for the Canadian market, because Canadians prefered sloping top tubes and the way we ride. I sold my Concorde to my older brother because he had his bike stolen in Edmonton. I do know that he still has it and I would try to get pictures of it when I visit him. Deelight's picture is below, but I will try to get pictures posted when I get the chance.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cmonster
    I was going through the Fat Chance forums and I saw Deelights picture of his team chance and I know that the bike that I had in 92' was a Concorde Mirage (with Deore LX components, Ritchey and Zoom parts) that I bought from Spoke n' Attire (no longer in business) in Calgary and went to another dealer (same as Spoke's position) that sold Fat's. That dealer told me that the Concorde and the Fat's sold in Canada are built by another company and imported under Velo Sports Canada. Seems to me that the design was licensed and the design was constantly used for Concorde's line before they disappeared in 1995. I know that the cable routing was identical and the use of Tange's strut forks are the same as the American builds. The increase height of the seat tube was for the Canadian market, because Canadians prefered sloping top tubes and the way we ride. I sold my Concorde to my older brother because he had his bike stolen in Edmonton. I do know that he still has it and I would try to get pictures of it when I visit him. Deelight's picture is below, but I will try to get pictures posted when I get the chance.
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    Wanted Fat Chance size M/L

    I am looking for either a Monster Fat, Wicked or Yo Eddy in a M/L size frame. If you have a frame for sale or can put me in touch with someone that does please email me.

    Email is: johnandlisac@earthlink.net

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    Here are a few...

    Don't know what the board's opinion's are on outing Ebay auctions, but here are two current Fat's that are available...

    A classic 80's

    http://cgi.ebay.com/Fat-Chance-80s-v...QQcmdZViewItem

    and a beautiful NOS Yo Eddy frame

    http://cgi.ebay.com/Fat-City-Cycles-...QQcmdZViewItem

    Disclaimer - I do not own or do not know the individuals selling these items...just a joy to look at. Wish I could own them too!

    cheers,

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    I guess you all saw the FAT CHANCE factory tour video I put on the net? starring Chris Chance.

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    Your movie is famous!

    http://www.yetifan.com/fatchancecycles.MPG

    Seriously cool
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    Fat Chance decals

    I sent payment to "the source" in Stowe two months ago and have followed up with 5 emails and have heard nothing back and received nothing (to the tune of $110). No nothing! Has anyone received or heard anything from her in the past 2 months, just wondering?

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    We the people ...

    maybe search the fatcogs forum? the ebay link was deffo on there @ some point as there was a big discussion about it

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    Just picked this up - haven't adjusted the saddle yet, much less ridden it any significant distance. One of the last ones out of Somerville...never ridden off-road.

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    Quote Originally Posted by paqrat
    Just picked this up - haven't adjusted the saddle yet, much less ridden it any significant distance. One of the last ones out of Somerville...never ridden off-road.

    More pics coming - have to resize them..
    I really like the paint scheme on that bike. Very cool.

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    With Grello and blue the frame is similar to the one MBA tested.

    BTW I have seen that bike before on FatCogs. It is a nice ride!
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    My Renovated '91 Wicked

    Inspired by this forum, I decided to breathe new life into my '91 Wicked. The original bike was purple and I had updated it in 1995 with Spinergy wheels, new brakes, and a Rock Shox fork. With my latest renovation, I gave it a new paint job, a Marzocchi fork, new wheels & tires, and a new handle bar & stem. In addition, as per vdubbusrider suggestions, I kept the old 7 speed setup with the thumby shifters.

    Here are some pics of the new setup (wish I had old pictures to compare):
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    Nice! I LOVE Wickeds the best.

    Post that bad boy on FatCogs.com and make sure the list it in the Fat Chance registry on the forums there!
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    I'd be interested in a t-shirt or two...

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    ... and if we just ... Sommerville Ti

    here's my just recently finished FAT Ti from 1993 with some extra Ti stuff just like I always wanted it back in the days of high dreams and low budget ...

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    Martin thats extremely nice

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    Nice!

    I like the understated look.

    Cheers,

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    nevermind...
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    Need Stickers

    HEY ALL,

    I am trying to bring back my 1989 Yo Eddy to its former glory. Unfortunately, it has been repainted 3 times and doesnt have stickers. Is there any chance in hell of finding any?

    Any help would be greatly appreciated.

    And what about that threadless BB. Anybody still making them?

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    Hi,

    People @ FatCogs are working on decals.

    www.fatcogs.com

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    The bearings should be a standard size. If you don't have a spindle you should be able to find one on Ebay. Another alternative is to chamfer your bb shell and use a Mavic sealed bb.

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    Thanks!

    The BB I have installed I bought from White industries about 5 years ago. I am going to check with them to see if they still have any.

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    Thanks!

    Now a member @ fatcogs!

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    [QUOTE=fat chance guy]
    Quote Originally Posted by Elevation12,000
    On 1: Isn't it 381W1L ? Large Wicked from '91.

    The Wicked was never sized in "Small, Medium, Large" as were the Monster, Yo, etc.

    By the serial number I would guess that you have a 91 Wicked, 21" size, does that sound close? The Wicked is meaured center-to-top, unlike many other Fat models.As everyone has said, it is somewhat of an art to decipher these things.

    I have never heard of a color chart, would be neat to have, but I would be surprised if one existed.

    Wendyll can supply all sorts of decals, but she does not have the early Wicked decals. Not having a 91, I would expect for your bike to have the solid black decals? If so, there are a number of sources to have them made, mostly places that will also paint your bike.
    There is another thread about that on here somewhere...

    Good luck with your bike, one of my personal favorites. Post pictures if you can.

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    how do i get in touch w/ wendyll? i may need decals for a wicked lite, 93..
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    Quote Originally Posted by Elevation12,000
    Hi,

    People @ FatCogs are working on decals.

    www.fatcogs.com

    i was there and saw no mention to decals.
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    Quote Originally Posted by colker1
    i was there and saw no mention to decals.
    Try here:

    http://www.apexspeed.com/fatcogs/for...read.php?t=743

    Pb

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    Quote Originally Posted by colker1
    i was there and saw no mention to decals.
    Seriously? It's like 50% of the topics there.
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    Even though I like to poke fun at FC owners...I still have one of my own.

    1989/90ish FC Wicked:











    After a tire and wheel swap, just for fun:









    Sorry, the full bike shot if blurry, I'm a total rookie.
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    Wicked in need of TLC

    Hey folks, I was very pleased to come across this thread.

    I'm trying to fix up my old Wicked (serial number 530W09). Based on my investigations I think it's a 1990. I've had it since '94 and it's in need of some major TLC. I'm planning on having it repainted soon.

    I could really use some advice:

    1) I need a new bottom bracket. Anyone know where I can get some good quality press-in bearings?

    2) I need a new fork. My Manitou 2 finally bit the dust. I can't seem to find elastomers for it anywhere. In any case, I'd like to switch to a rigid fork. I'm mostly using my bike for commuting on streets these days. I'd like to find something appropriate for the Wicked's geometry, rides well, and isn't too heavy. I'm aware of bikeman.com, but I was hoping I could maybe find something off-the-shelf that wouldn't kill my pocketbook. Any suggestions?

    Thanks,
    James

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    Quote Originally Posted by jamezilla
    Hey folks, I was very pleased to come across this thread.

    I'm trying to fix up my old Wicked (serial number 530W09). Based on my investigations I think it's a 1990. I've had it since '94 and it's in need of some major TLC. I'm planning on having it repainted soon.

    I could really use some advice:

    1) I need a new bottom bracket. Anyone know where I can get some good quality press-in bearings?

    2) I need a new fork. My Manitou 2 finally bit the dust. I can't seem to find elastomers for it anywhere. In any case, I'd like to switch to a rigid fork. I'm mostly using my bike for commuting on streets these days. I'd like to find something appropriate for the Wicked's geometry, rides well, and isn't too heavy. I'm aware of bikeman.com, but I was hoping I could maybe find something off-the-shelf that wouldn't kill my pocketbook. Any suggestions?

    Thanks,
    James
    Bearing: Act quick, these don't come up too often:
    http://cgi.ebay.com/NOS-Fat-City-Fat...QQcmdZViewItem

    Find any 1" rigid fork for now...though you'll be hard pressed to find the correct matching Wicked fork I think.

    Also check out www.fatcogs.com
    -eric-

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