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    Official Bontrager Thread

    I am getting a well used Bontrager frame that definitely needs a makeover and new powder coating. I was thinking of going the original black way... but then my creative side took over... now, I cannot decide. HELP ME OUT, by posting pics of your Bontrager Race or others and let me know what color <i>you</i> think I should paint it...

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    Quote Originally Posted by
    I am getting a well used Bontrager frame that definitely needs a makeover and new powder coating. I was thinking of going the original black way... but then my creative side took over... now, I cannot decide. HELP ME OUT, by posting pics of your Bontrager Race or others and let me know what color <i>you</i> think I should paint it...
    I'm partial to factory if it's a race or race or...but black is always safe. Black everything out.

    Check some of the other threads for pics as well...Bontragers have come up often in conversation.

    Another pic of 'Bonny' in the correct forum...
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    Bonking ... not feelin' well Bonnie

    This one belongs to my brother.

    Still brand new, and too small for me.....
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    Origninal colour samples in NYC (and old Chi Chi)

    There is a shop in NYC that probably still has the original tubing colour samples from Bontrager Circ. @1992-93. They probably have no idea what they are, they have been hanging on the board behind the register since I got them in in 92-93 (my memory is a bit foggy on dates) attached together on a old Cannondale frame Zip tie. I saw them as recently as 2 years ago and see no reason for them to have moved since.

    They also have a great selection of 90's Chi Chi. Zooka stems, Kooka Cranks, Purple this, Red that, 1 1/4 Mavic headset. They are not collectors, this is stuff just hanging around since "back in the day", and I am sure can be had for a good deal. Just don't be a pain in the ass and ask all sorts of annoying questions about exact specifications and stuff, if it isnt exactly what you wanted there is always Ebay.

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    By the way there is 2 locations, avoid the shop on 3rd like the plauge, very very different attitude.

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    I just built up my first Bonty as an SS - a '92, SAnta Cruz, black with white panels. I'll get some pics up this weekend.

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    Here's mine. Had it for about 5 years, but sold it about 2 years ago to buy my Hunter 29"er. There are times when I miss it, but then I ride my new bike and I don't.

    And my wifes. Its a Trek version. but still anice bike. She LOVES it, the way it rides, how it handles. I repainted it from the hideous blue/orange it was as stock. Self modified stickers. She likes the one-off appearance of it too. THe only stock part left on it is the stem. Everything else has been changed. It also has pre hollowtech cranks on it too.


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    Martini,

    Did you buy that black/blue/white at Dave's Recycled bikes in Santa Cruz by any chance? That looks exactly like my first Bontrager which I parted with there. It is a really odd size, has the top decal on backwards, and has the horizontal drops. It must be the same one, there really can't be more than one that looks just like this.

    She was way too big for me so I had her set up as a cross/touring bike. I'm trying to remember if there was anything else that I could identify it by.

    Take it easy.

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    Nope, and you're the second person in two days to accuse me of being from the SC area! Funny. I'm from Minn. and the bike was originally red, there was some rust under the original powder coat, so I had it redone, and called to ask for more stickers. I liked the TT one better backwards. The bike was one of the last out of the SC factory, so it had the Vert. drops on it. I was running 36-18 which fits perfect w/o a tensioner.

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    How about another identical one without the toptube decal?




    Frankie says hi...




    Quote Originally Posted by Boy named SSue
    Martini,

    Did you buy that black/blue/white at Dave's Recycled bikes in Santa Cruz by any chance? That looks exactly like my first Bontrager which I parted with there. It is a really odd size, has the top decal on backwards, and has the horizontal drops. It must be the same one, there really can't be more than one that looks just like this.

    She was way too big for me so I had her set up as a cross/touring bike. I'm trying to remember if there was anything else that I could identify it by.

    Take it easy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by aosty
    How about another identical one without the toptube decal?




    Frankie says hi...
    Here 'tis in its orgininal color. Also sans toptube decal. This was taken in Colorado somewhere. Probably on the MonarchCrest Trail. Tires were the Specailized 2.2 Cannibals. Loved those tires. Would like to find another set sometime.


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    How could you possibly get accused of being from Santa Cruz, two Bontragers and a Hunter? I get the same accusation every now and again since I have a couple of Bontragers and a Rock Lobster. I did buy most of them when I was living there though.

    I really thought that was my old one. I should have noticed the different dropouts and the cable routing for the top-pull but the super big size and stickers had me.

    What's the deal on the second one you posted? It looks like a large, is it for sale?

    Take it easy

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    ... something

    ... green 'n red 'n yellow one year ago, now it has to be repainted because the powdercoat gets off the dropouts
    it's a '94 race lite, my second "real" custom bike. for me the best hardtail i ever had.

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    Here is mine again...

    [QUOTE=]

    This was taken just after I finished the SS conversion. I really like the deep purple metallic color, but can't take much more of the yellow decals. There really is a lot of unnecessary solid color in their decals. I plan on getting it repainted sometime and applying new, yet slightly altered decals. I'm thinking silver/black if I can still buy them. Although, I really like how the Trek titanium decals look, nice and clean. We'll just have to see what I can get my hands on.
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    The purple one? That's the wifes. If I even think of selling it, I can say buhbye to sex for a good long time. The red one is actually the same bike as the black one. I had a rust problem under the powder coat, so I had it redone.Some guy in S.Carolina bought it two years ago for a steal. $600 as in the black pic.

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    Me and my old meany greeny during a muddy ride at Skeggs. Not the best pic. I was late for the ride and didn't have any of my cycling cloths clean, who say you can't ride in cotton?? (you can, it just sucks)

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    my race

    here is mine in all her splendor. ride her 3-5 times a week and have pretty much over the last 10 years
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    great thread. makes me weepy. had a race for five yrs. great handling in the twisty new england singletrack-loved it but it was time.

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    here's mine . . .

    . . . a '92 Race, Santa Cruz built. I just acquired it and built it up as my first singlespeed (mountain bike, that is). Kitted out with a smattering of vintage parts. Rides sweet!
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    Quote Originally Posted by bikenerd
    . . . a '92 Race, Santa Cruz built. I just acquired it and built it up as my first singlespeed (mountain bike, that is). Kitted out with a smattering of vintage parts. Rides sweet!
    Nice looking fork. What is it?

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    Loooks liek a abontreraver standae= cmpaostite. holy sows meat i'm drunk as the chica i gave my numer to at th batr.. too may margaties... oh damn! i have tow of those foryks they & they are ho t hot hot.!!! hota damn an d hallkeleujuiah! rock on!
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    you got it, flyingsuperpetis!

    Yep, it's an original Bontrager 3-piece rigid fork, kinda like a Tange Switchblade. Stiff as hell - this thing carves turns like crazy. WTF is a flyingsuperpetis, anyway?

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    here's the front view ~

    the Bonty rigid fork in all its glory

    BTW, flyingsuperpetis, que tomas esta noche? Estas bien borracho, no? He tomado unas tres cervezas belgicas (sp?) y no me siento nada.
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    Hey! That's a me!

    Ohhhh yes, that is one of the finest forks ever made. They sure do handle turns like lips on a nipple. Try to shake em off, just try. Amazing. Once you have one, you may get the idea you could benefit from some softness, ie, a suspension fork. Oh sure, you'd buy a few, start with something cheap, a rockox, then maybe a manitou, then pricier, a Marzocchi, then you go for broke and try a Pace, illigitimately imported from england... it goes on and on. Still you keep the Bontrager, mostly out of sheer obligation. A frame belongs with its fork... well, it's only a matter of time, before you get to thinking, I seem to remember that fork pulling me through these turns twice as fast... sure enough, you ditch the brainslug, and reattach the svelte (relatively) rigid bontrager composite, as the universe intended. Whooooooly shmoka. There it is. There is what you have been missing. Wow. It's like being the wheels on a rollercoaster. You're just in there. And it's fast. And tight. What else is there? Maybe some bumps. You learn how to not hit them, and you do so fast. EVERYTHING seems 15 mph faster. Life is flowing and beuatiful. You take the auction down, and realize it's worth more on the front of your bike than the $300 it would fetch on ebay. A thing of beauty.
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    Ohhh no mezcla margaritas y el mead irlands. peligro del peligro del peligro.

    y tengo gusto de su 986's
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    Thanks ALL!

    This thread is definitely pumping me up!

    I cannot wait to finish the build!

    Either have everything, or everything in mind, except for the cranks. What do you think? Part of me wants to go bombproof Profiles, but part of me doesn't.

    Martini, my good friend, I shot you a message... check it, and make me the happiest man in the world?

    THANKS!

    I really love these BONTRAGERS!!!!
    YAYA!
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    A PINK Chris King Headset... and disc hubs!

    As well as a Morati crankset!
    PLEASE Email me or PM me with any leads!!!

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    SS Ti Bontrager

    I've set my Ti Bonty up SS using a SoulCraft tensioner, 34x19. It was sweeeet!!! I've since switched it back to geared and built up a Hunter frame the same way, only this is with a Hunter rigid fork and disc brakes.
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    Nice choice in the Hunter! I've got one too. 29" EBB and disc. Swanky ride. Lets see a picture of yours. I like the Ti lite, you coulda run a 36-18 w/o a tensioner too.

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    My 94' Bontrager Race. Rebuilt and repainted this winter. stem/bar-combo, RS SL Ti, copmplete XT M-730, cranks will be replaced with black anodized M-730

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    One very very very used Bontrager

    This is my 90-something Privateer Comp. Mojo visible on stem. Pedals currently inhabiting another bike...

    now the world is gone i'm just o n e

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    97 Privateer Comp just upgraded

    that's my ride
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    Quote Originally Posted by phatphil
    here is mine in all her splendor. ride her 3-5 times a week and have pretty much over the last 10 years
    WHOA!! Where'd ya get the saw blade logo sign??? Very cool!!

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    Here's mine, it could be yours...

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    Here's my Bontrager fleet..

    In Front - Race Frame w/ Comp fork and an extra Race Fork .
    Left - Bontrager Singlespeed(Factory) w/ Custom 2002 SID SL
    Center - RaceLite w/Comp fork and Moustache bars. (My favorite ride)
    Right - RoadLite

    It's a sickness.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GrumpyOne
    In Front - Race Frame w/ Comp fork and an extra Race Fork .
    Left - Bontrager Singlespeed(Factory) w/ Custom 2002 SID SL
    Center - RaceLite w/Comp fork and Moustache bars. (My favorite ride)
    Right - RoadLite

    It's a sickness.

    jw
    Very nice. I really like the RaceLite with shiney forks...
    I am getting my hands on a Race w/ shiney Comp fork with the semi horizontals, gonna be an SS...

    Still trying to decide on cranks and color...
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    8 years and counting...

    Clydesdale owner here. 8 years and still riding like brand new. Original horrible orange color, which I still love to this day.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Darren
    Clydesdale owner here. 8 years and still riding like brand new. Original horrible orange color, which I still love to this day.
    I like orange.

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    Quote Originally Posted by icegeek
    Here's mine, it could be yours...

    Here, this seems more properly


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    Good job! Looka!

    Some shop is selling a couple NOS pairs of Bonty cut-downs. Hard Ano MA-40s & Silver MA-2's

    http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...category=42317

    http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...category=42317
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    Yeah they have been up for a month or more

    I'm surprised that they're not all gone by now, unless of course they have 50 of them.
    I've been debating about picking up a pair of the MA-40's but seeing that have more than 2x as many wheelsets as I have bikes to put them on more rims doesn;t really seem wise.

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    Quote Originally Posted by aosty
    How about another identical one without the toptube decal?

    Here's the same bike again...almost done now:





    Just waiting on my XT Thumbshifters now...


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    Very nice - and is that a Krylon-job on the fork?

    Also, nice collection of boxes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by aosty
    Very nice - and is that a Krylon-job on the fork?

    Also, nice collection of boxes.
    Yeah, I put about 6 coats of satin black on the fork. Hope you don't mind. I figure I can always get some more Judy legs if I want to go back to the OEM look.


    A1000 boxes kick ass for shipping stuff! Toughest boxes I've seen yet...

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    Unmolested Race Lite frame

    Here's a pic of my unpainted Race Lite. It was reps frame to take around to the shops and have them examine. The heat tint from the welds look cool. I haven't decided what to do with it yet. I may have it clear powder coated.
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    Good job! ... before

    Quote Originally Posted by HoSS
    Here's a pic of my unpainted Race Lite. It was reps frame to take around to the shops and have them examine. The heat tint from the welds look cool. I haven't decided what to do with it yet. I may have it clear powder coated.
    ... you do anything, please please please make photos of all the details and show them to us and/or send them to floibex@gmx.de

    i would be very happy

    ciao
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    Quote Originally Posted by floibex
    ... you do anything, please please please make photos of all the details and show them to us and/or send them to floibex@gmx.de

    i would be very happy

    ciao
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    Better hope you get more pics soon, it's already on eBay: liNky

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    Pics coming

    I thought long and hard about keeping this frame but can't justify it right now. I've decided to sell it but will take detail pics before it goes and post here. Kills me to sell this thing. I waited a long time to get it. Hope it goes to a good home.
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    my race

    not quite how it is now,
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    how it was when new

    first built up. has hs33's and xt chainset now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mrmo
    first built up. has hs33's and xt chainset now.
    What's up with the front brake set-up? Why are the cants behind the fork?

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    Here's mine. It's a 92' medium race frame in the original dark purple color. Also a pic of the race lite that was on the cover of the 94 catalog from Bontrager. One of the things that amazes me about this bike is that I have replced almost every part on the bike at least once but the frame is still going. I have used j.p. weigel frame saver in it once or twice and that must have doen some good because I rode it in the rain a fair amount.
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    Quote Originally Posted by laffeaux
    What's up with the front brake set-up? Why are the cants behind the fork?
    It is how Pace have always been.

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    Wow, super pictures there...

    Wow some beautiful bikes :-) Not sure why everyone is killin the orange/white/light blue colour scheme, thats one of my favourites! Will have to get some pics of my Race built up as a geary and the Race Lite as a disked up SS for the UK winters (and much much more) - I know its a sacriledge to have it welded but keith himself said it would be OK. Using stickers made up by a guy I know, same colours as originals but in layers instead of just one bit. Anyone need some I'll let you know how much they come to...

    Ian

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    Please post some photos of your RaceLite when you get a chance. I saw your post on Singletrackworld and it sounds like a cool conversion.

    jw


    Quote Originally Posted by SSBonty
    Wow some beautiful bikes :-) Not sure why everyone is killin the orange/white/light blue colour scheme, thats one of my favourites! Will have to get some pics of my Race built up as a geary and the Race Lite as a disked up SS for the UK winters (and much much more) - I know its a sacriledge to have it welded but keith himself said it would be OK. Using stickers made up by a guy I know, same colours as originals but in layers instead of just one bit. Anyone need some I'll let you know how much they come to...

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    I have some detailed pics of my old original Ti Lite. If anyone would like copies, please email me or PM me.

    Thanks
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    All I've got is a 60cm mid- eighties hand-brazed cross frame and fork. So old it's standard geometry. If only I could grow a few inches...

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    Finally sorted this pic business!

    OK, so here are the pics. One of the Race OR geared, one of the Race Lite SS, one of the disc mount welded on the Race Lite SS, and one of the the no tensioner needed drivetrain of the SS (running 36-18 but also have 32 and 40 teeth rings for hills/flat places!). Hope this works...

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    Damn...

    ... think the pics were too big. Back again later!

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    My 89/90 Race

    There is only one colour for a bonty - Grey

    This is my Race
    It started out with red banded decals, and I got the yellow ones about 93

    It's got a fillet brazed Seat Tube to top tube / stays.
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    Other kit - XT hubs, Mechs, Thumbies, BB
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    This is my 95 Race.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BontyRaceOR
    This is my 95 Race.

    Wow! Did you repaint it, or is the paint still that shiny?

    I remember when my Race Lite looked like that many many years ago. Now I leave it covered in dust and dirt so that the beat-up finish is less obvious.

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    Crell,
    Sweet setup, especially the thumbshifters. I have switched to Rapidfire Plus once, 8sp XT, and they were great in their own way, but I always switch back to thumshifters. One thing, though. Maguras on a Bontrager, without a brake booster? Can you lock the rear brake?
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    Quote Originally Posted by laffeaux
    Wow! Did you repaint it, or is the paint still that shiny?

    I remember when my Race Lite looked like that many many years ago. Now I leave it covered in dust and dirt so that the beat-up finish is less obvious.
    It's the original paint! I use Sonax Extreme Wax (wax for cars) to protect the paint.

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    Acouple of mine

    Here are mine. I'm actually trying to sell the OR if anyone is interested Ti lite will not ever be sold is a bit different from the picture. It has the original decals and acouple more ti pieces on it. I'll get an updated pic up soon.
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    Quote Originally Posted by uphiller
    Crell,
    Sweet setup, especially the thumbshifters. I have switched to Rapidfire Plus once, 8sp XT, and they were great in their own way, but I always switch back to thumshifters. One thing, though. Maguras on a Bontrager, without a brake booster? Can you lock the rear brake?
    Tim

    No problem at all locking the wheel - esp with the 4 finger levers. The frame flex isn't too bad - it improves modulation ...which on early maguras is pretty dire.

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    Here's mine

    All bonty parts, race light cranks with race milled rings, santa cruz stem, race wheels, Judy XC with englunds, nice perf leather Ti railed saddle, New Jones tires (still have white mold release all over them), race bar, pauls levers and brakes (changing to XTR), XTR 8sp. All bonty parts with the paw logo. All new. Medium, I like large also, a little more roomy . . .
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    Quote Originally Posted by MrOrange
    All bonty parts, race light cranks with race milled rings, santa cruz stem, race wheels, Judy XC with englunds, nice perf leather Ti railed saddle, New Jones tires (still have white mold release all over them), race bar, pauls levers and brakes (changing to XTR), XTR 8sp. All bonty parts with the paw logo. All new. Medium, I like large also, a little more roomy . . .

    Ok i will take this one and the red one above.............I need a medium frame now..........**** I will take a privateer for crying out loud, anyone................?

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    Hey Williwoods,
    It was you who emailed me a week ago right? If so, I've got your pictures coming tomorrow.

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    Quote Originally Posted by flyingsuperpetis
    Hey Williwoods,
    It was you who emailed me a week ago right? If so, I've got your pictures coming tomorrow.


    what was I looking at? remind me. Will

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    My NOS orange santa Race with your choice of stickers... But it was an XL, and I see you mentioned a med. Maybe it wasn't you. Bummer, I lost an entire .pst file (many emails) in the middle of getting photos for someone... suppose I'll have to list it again in the classifieds at some point. Whoever you are, I'm not ignoring you!
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    Quote Originally Posted by flyingsuperpetis
    My NOS orange santa Race with your choice of stickers... But it was an XL, and I see you mentioned a med. Maybe it wasn't you. Bummer, I lost an entire .pst file (many emails) in the middle of getting photos for someone... suppose I'll have to list it again in the classifieds at some point. Whoever you are, I'm not ignoring you!

    thats too bad about the size, anyone ride a medium...........has that same person tried a large? I am in between sizes and could go in either direction. Will

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    Quote Originally Posted by Williwoods
    thats too bad about the size, anyone ride a medium...........has that same person tried a large? I am in between sizes and could go in either direction. Will
    I just sold a "large" Race Lite last week.

    How tall are you?

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    Did someBonnie call?

    Here is my girl. She's still holding up well. I have a SID with Englund Air cartridges ready to install as my Summer project.


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    Quote Originally Posted by laffeaux
    I just sold a "large" Race Lite last week.

    How tall are you?

    5'9"

    Used to ride a medium Privateer soldthat one (like an idiot)
    bought a full suspension bike k2 razorback
    jonesin for that bontrager feel again though
    Full-Sus is ok just not quite the same.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Williwoods
    5'9"

    Used to ride a medium Privateer soldthat one (like an idiot)
    bought a full suspension bike k2 razorback
    jonesin for that bontrager feel again though
    Full-Sus is ok just not quite the same.
    You really are right on the line between medium and large. You could probably go either way, but since you know that you like the medium, it's probably a safer bet.

    I'm 6'0", and according to the catalogs, the large fits 5'9"-6'1" and the x-large fits 6'0"-something. I've always ridden a "large" frame and like it.

    Prices seem to be reaonable on Race and Race Lites now, so you should be able to pick one up for a reasonable cost. I sold my full-xt (mostly '97 components) in decent shape for $500.

    Good luck!

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    Quote Originally Posted by laffeaux
    You really are right on the line between medium and large. You could probably go either way, but since you know that you like the medium, it's probably a safer bet.

    I'm 6'0", and according to the catalogs, the large fits 5'9"-6'1" and the x-large fits 6'0"-something. I've always ridden a "large" frame and like it.

    Prices seem to be reaonable on Race and Race Lites now, so you should be able to pick one up for a reasonable cost. I sold my full-xt (mostly '97 components) in decent shape for $500.

    Good luck!


    See my prob is I got short legs and long torso I think I had a 120-130 mm stem on my medium and a layback seatpost. Worked great and felt good but I still wonder if a Large may be better.

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    straight from ebay............

    Looks Interesting....not quite as nice as a race-lite though.


    Here

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    Quote Originally Posted by Williwoods
    Looks Interesting....not quite as nice as a race-lite though.


    Here
    Interesting and kinda cool. The seller has it listed on the SF craigslist for $750but negotiable if anyone is interested and not wanting to do the Ebay thing. After that scam alert, who wants to.

    http://www.craigslist.org/pen/bik/34365405.html

    Wiliiwoods,

    For all it's worth, I am 5'11" and mostly torso myself. I feel fine on medium or large Bontragers. At 5'9" with a short inseam, I would stick with a medium but you know your riding style best. You also might want to consider what fork you will put on it. An 80mm fork will raise the front compared to the intended 65mm. This will slacken the seat tube and head tube angle thereby leaning your seat further backwards giving a bit of offset and will bring the stem up. If you are in between sizes and looking to run a more modern fork, I would go with the medium. I would think a medium with an 80mm fork and a 130x0 stem would put the bars and seat pretty close to where a large would put them with a 65mm fork and a 120x10 stem.

    I have two larges. The one with the intended fork length feels smaller than the one with the 80mm marzocchi eventhough the frames have the same geometry.

    Cheers

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    Thank u SSue, that was the insight I needed, I will prob use an 80mm fork for sure, my old privateer had a 63 Judy with 1.25 crown offset. What more modern fork has the most similar rake spec? Any good suggestions? I would go with either a 1-1/8" or 1" Bontrager, I dont discriminate as they all feel nearly identical imho......? I have not really ridden a race or race-lite enough to really say but having fork flexibility is pretty attractive without cutting headtubes off etc........
    I always liked the quick handling of the medium with 63mm set-up, so maybe 80mm will be the cats meow as the handling should still be a bit quicker than most other vintage frames of the era, bontrager geometry etc....am I making sense? If I find a medium privateer I have an 02 mars super I can throw on. Would this be a good choice? Thanks again.

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    I found that once you throw an 80mm fork on a Bontrager, the steering mellows out quite a bit. It won't be as quick as before but will be similar to many of the bikes being built around 80mm forks today. Is this what most other people are finding?

    I can't say I know too many forks. I got stuck on marzocchis early and stuck to them although I can see why people like other forks given their weight. I can say for sure that I don't like the tpc mainitous and the judy sl's.

    cheers

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    Wink Bontragers eh?

    a couple nice Bontragers...



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    wholy crap....NINE?!

    I love the small rasta. If I were to ever go for another it would be something along those lines in small or medium.

    nice

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    Hehe, ten. Two orange Races, two black racelights, two bmxs, the rasta, the ti, the road, cyclocross (not pictured). Plus a few sawed-off old ones for use as stools...
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    Quote Originally Posted by flyingsuperpetis
    Hehe, ten. Two orange Races, two black racelights, two bmxs, the rasta, the ti, the road, cyclocross (not pictured). Plus a few sawed-off old ones for use as stools...
    Wow! You've gone a long way to make me fill better about myself. I though that I was over extended in the Bonty department, but it turns out you're worse!!!

    I currently have:
    - Race Lite : red, 9-speed
    - Ti Lite : 8-speed
    - Race : silver, single speed
    - CX : black, 9-speed
    Plus two unbuild frames: one Race Lite, and an '83/'84 frame.

    I recently sold an orange Race Lite (8-speed), and sold my Road Lite a couple of years back.

    All of this seems mild compared to you! Nice collection!

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    Quote Originally Posted by flyingsuperpetis
    Hehe, ten. Two orange Races, two black racelights, two bmxs, the rasta, the ti, the road, cyclocross (not pictured). Plus a few sawed-off old ones for use as stools...
    ... this makes me feel very very sick as I need single speed, cyclo x and road frame to get safe and sound again

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    here's my bontrager.

    is there a website for history of this frame ?

    thanks , dirt diggler
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    What is the silver fork leaning against the blue/white bonty? Does it have long forward facing fork tabs. What year is it? Does it have any markings on it that signify it as a bontrager fork, other then the "B" on the front of the fork crown. Does the steering tube have "tange" stamped anywhere on it?
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    It's a Bontrager Race, which pre-dates the Tange. One of the many ways to tell the difference between the Bontrager and the Tange is the brake studs.
    Bontrager made two different forks, the Race and the Comp. And then they made many variations of each. My Race has normal dropouts, not the slotted ones. I've got 2 crowns to use with it for different axel to crown heights.

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    Quote Originally Posted by scurra
    What is the silver fork leaning against the blue/white bonty? Does it have long forward facing fork tabs. What year is it? Does it have any markings on it that signify it as a bontrager fork, other then the "B" on the front of the fork crown. Does the steering tube have "tange" stamped anywhere on it?
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    Quote Originally Posted by GrumpyOne
    It's a Bontrager Race, which pre-dates the Tange. One of the many ways to tell the difference between the Bontrager and the Tange is the brake studs.
    Bontrager made two different forks, the Race and the Comp. And then they made many variations of each. My Race has normal dropouts, not the slotted ones. I've got 2 crowns to use with it for different axel to crown heights.

    jw
    Mine has slotted dropouts. Do you know the rough date? (late 80s or early 90s). I have an issue of 1990 MTB Action and it pictured a bontrager with switchblade fork. Looks closer to you other fork, with clamp on brake posts.
    "Riding is about rhythm and flow. It's the wind in your face and the challenge of hammering up a long hill. It's the reward at the top and the thrill of a high-speed descent. Biking lets you come alive both in body and in spirit. After awhile the bike disappears beneath you and you feel as if you're suspended in midair." - Gary Klein

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    Sorry, no clue as to when they where made. I do think the Race came first and then the Comp was the last to go out of production. But they were making both models for some time. I have a few catalogs that list both forks from 1990 & 91.

    jw

    Quote Originally Posted by scurra
    Mine has slotted dropouts. Do you know the rough date? (late 80s or early 90s). I have an issue of 1990 MTB Action and it pictured a bontrager with switchblade fork. Looks closer to you other fork, with clamp on brake posts.
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    I knew I saw this thread,
    Finally got it build back up.

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    Here's my Bontrager Race, size Medium, in forest green. I bought this frame from a shop in 1995 where it had been hanging from the rafters on display (and collecting dust) for a long enough time that I felt I should by it. I built it up and rode it off and on for about 2 years solid before I began riding it less and less as I started acquiring more bikes for the growing obsession. I haven't ridden it at all, other than in my driveway, since at least 1998. A couple years ago I did manage to scour the nation in search of what seems to have been the last higher-end 1" threadless XC fork. The Manitou SX-R you see in this photo replaces the Manitou it was originally built with (can't remember the model designation, but was also black and the "sh*t" back when).
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    What's wrong with this picture?

    This is a 98 Privateer S. When I bought the bike I upgraded the components to XT. I rode it as a Single Speed for a couple of years and then put the gears back on and put on a girl's seat and shorter stem for my wife.

    For those of you that don't know, all Privateers were made by Trek. Here's a Web site that talks a little about <a href="http://www.ridesmarter.com/main.htm">Bonty </a> Frames.

    The cool thing about the 98/99 frames (1999 being the last year they were made) are the 1 1/8 head tube; that's right, that's a 1998 Marzocchi Super Fly; the last fork Marzocchi made without disc tabs.

    This bike doesn't get ridden much anymore, but before my Rocklobster (which was made from some old Santa Cruz Bonty Tange steel Paul still have left over) this was my main ride.

    1G1G, Brad
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    Quote Originally Posted by aka brad

    This bike doesn't get ridden much anymore, but before my Rocklobster (which was made from some old Santa Cruz Bonty Tange steel Paul still have left over) this was my main ride.

    1G1G, Brad
    Cool, so is it one of the ones labelled as a Nontrager?

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    1995 Race Lite

    added a 1 1/8 headtube (courtesy of Paul Sadoff at RockLobster) and new paint.
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    Quote Originally Posted by riderup
    added a 1 1/8 headtube (courtesy of Paul Sadoff at RockLobster) and new paint.
    Riderup, I think that I emailed you quite some time ago about your 1.125" equipped Bontrager, but maybe not. Oh heck ya, it hadta be you, what are the chances that someone else had done what you did! Anyway, I contacted Rock Lobster about putting an eccentric bottom bracket on my Bontrager and was shot down in flames. He did remember your conversion, and mentioned something about the thinness of the tubing and all of the gussetts and such. Anyway, he declined the job and I guess I'm not really all that affected by it...I can still run a 2:1 ratio with a 36/18 gearing without a tensioner.

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    I'd trust Paul. He built me my favorite bike, despite it's oddity.
    Picture attached...853 top and down tubes, Ritchey NiTi seattube, columbus seatspays, and tange chainstays, with a 1.5 inch headtube, running a 70mm ultra Headshok. I love the rigid-fork-like aesthetics of the headshok, plus it steers great and has a very nice lockout...perfect for ss. The bike's got subb11 dropouts and I'm using a Phil Wood chainstay mounted device to run rear disc. Mango king hubs round it out.



    Quote Originally Posted by loonyOne
    Riderup, I think that I emailed you quite some time ago about your 1.125" equipped Bontrager, but maybe not. Oh heck ya, it hadta be you, what are the chances that someone else had done what you did! Anyway, I contacted Rock Lobster about putting an eccentric bottom bracket on my Bontrager and was shot down in flames. He did remember your conversion, and mentioned something about the thinness of the tubing and all of the gussetts and such. Anyway, he declined the job and I guess I'm not really all that affected by it...I can still run a 2:1 ratio with a 36/18 gearing without a tensioner.
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    My beater

    Gotta love the Carumba cranks. Broke a few BB's but those things are great.
    Anyone know what year the privateer was brought out?

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