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    Let's see those rare parts!

    We've got a nice well rounded bunch of 'official' threads with some amazing vintage. But, a fine rig is only as good as it's parts...so, what rare and unique part are you hiding in your closet?

    I'm a Tension Disc freak. I know they don't work all that well, but I love em' anyway.
    I'm at four so far...here are two that are built:

    The other two are new, unbuilt and in the factory box with wheel bag. (and no, I'm not selling!)

    And two pairs of Tioga Revolver cranks. Both new and unused, the blue pair are supposedly 'team issue' only...



    A couple pairs of Cook Bros cranks, a 1" RS-1, two 1" Judys, and a fine 1" SID. Any vintage mtb collector know's how important a 1" steered fork is!
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    latest eBay buys....

    Stem Forks Brake Levers

    I really love Machine Tech stuff, I have a pair of hubs, the Canti Brakes, a load of cable hangers, and now some Levers.... I am really holding out for a stem though

    eBay is evil...

    Djuc

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    Oh you like machinetech levers do ya? Yer gonne be in heaven once I get around to sticking "vintage" part listings into the classifieds (it'd be nice if they'd make a section for 'em), maybe I'll use the 'other' parts section for now). But a sneak preview...

    MachineTech ZeroFlex Levers
    <img src="http://206.75.155.18/kmr/bikes/machine2.jpg">

    Topline MTN Cranks
    <img src="http://206.75.155.18/kmr/bikes/topline.jpg">

    Neon color ODI Mushroom Grips
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    RaceFace and Odyssey threaded headsets
    <img src="http://206.75.155.18/kmr/bikes/threaded.jpg">

    Magura HS-22 Hydraulics (the originals)
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    Tioga Psycho KR Tires (yes, the ones Tomac liked to use)
    <img src="http://206.75.155.18/kmr/bikes/psycho.jpg">

    Anyone need some NOS Scott Unishocks (first model year, like Ruthie Mathes won her World XC championship on, NOT the recalled ones)
    <img src="http://206.75.155.18/kmr/bikes/unishock.jpg">

    How about some 1 1/4 steerer NOS Tange Shockblades?
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    A complete front NOS Amp D-1 Disk brake kit
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    NOS Scott Bars anyone?
    <img src="http://206.75.155.18/kmr/bikes/scottbar.jpg">

    That enough teasing for now?
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    DeKerf titanium Stem/barcombo:






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    To add a few...
    No, I am not retro.... I am way ahead of my time...

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    Quote Originally Posted by DeeEight
    Oh you like machinetech levers do ya? Yer gonne be in heaven once I get around to sticking "vintage" part listings into the classifieds (it'd be nice if they'd make a section for 'em), maybe I'll use the 'other' parts section for now). But a sneak preview...

    NOS Scott Bars anyone?
    <img src="http://206.75.155.18/kmr/bikes/scottbar.jpg">

    That enough teasing for now?
    I do like that shorter Scott bar. You selling? $=?
    Nice.

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    DeeEight, I dont suppose youre selling the blue Machine Tech Levers are you?

    if so you have my mail....

    Djuc

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    Quote Originally Posted by
    I do like that shorter Scott bar. You selling? $=?
    Nice.
    Yep, I usually have a dozen or so ads running in the classifieds but I haven't listed any this month since I'm hoping Gregg will respond to my PM about adding a vintage section (which most of the stuff I usually list on mtbr qualifies as anyways) to the classifieds. Otherwise if I hear nothing from him, I'll stick 'em in the usual missmash of sections later in the week.

    In the meantime, my email's kroberge@ca.inter.net

    And Djuc, yes I'm selling the machine tech levers.

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    Hi,

    those Neon ODI Grips. Does anyone have a source for them? I hope that I'll finally able to finally build an 1988/1989 Yeti Racing Replica and I need them for this bike (neon pink on the left and neon green on the right).

    Best Regards,

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    Quote Originally Posted by Michael Staab
    Hi,

    those Neon ODI Grips. Does anyone have a source for them? I hope that I'll finally able to finally build an 1988/1989 Yeti Racing Replica and I need them for this bike (neon pink on the left and neon green on the right).

    Best Regards,

    Michael
    I would be the source for them as I sell 'em online.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DeeEight
    NOS Scott Bars anyone?
    <img src="http://206.75.155.18/kmr/bikes/scottbar.jpg">
    LOL! I'm still using a AT-3 on my commuter bike. Works well actually as I have a road section on my commute that is exposed to the wind off the ocean.

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    Post that bar/stem pic on the DeKerf thread on the Cdn bikes board. I think someone was talking about one a while ago. I'm sure they would love to see it.

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    machine tech

    Quote Originally Posted by Djuc Wun
    Stem Forks Brake Levers

    I really love Machine Tech stuff, I have a pair of hubs, the Canti Brakes, a load of cable hangers, and now some Levers.... I am really holding out for a stem though

    eBay is evil...

    Djuc

    Hello have you the crank set?!?!?!?
    Very nice and rare!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Andrea

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    There it is again! I'm a Machine Tech fan too, and this is the second time i've ever even heard of the legend of their crank. The first fellow to mention it worked for titec, and he looked long and hard for a photo of one, but could find nothing. Andrea, do you have any pictures? Anyone?
    Nothing left to lose, & half mad.

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    I was a machinetech dealer from the company's debut till their demise and there never was a crank listed in the catalogs. Now they might have prototyped something and had its pic taken for a magazine, but after the rear hub defects and having to come up with v-brake and levers at the same time, they wouldn't have had the resources to do a crank for production runs and none made it to the canadian distributor that's for sure.

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    Hmm. I've heard about 90% good reports about the rear hubs, and the other 10% were anything but flattering. I have a set that have clearly been ridden very hard for nearly a decade, and are rock solid, with some pretty worn parts.

    I recall at around the same time, at a certain large bike MFG I worked for, we figured if we only got 20% of our product back through warranty we were doing pretty well. I think we were usually up around 25% most of the time though. There are two ways of looking at this. One is, every company is going to get broken or defective product back, and while less is obviously better for everyone, in something so chaotic as putting a person on a bicycle and sending them into the world, it has to be expected, anticipated, and planned for. What becomes an issue is how much anyone wants to put up with it. The counterpoint is, when you're paying twice as much for a pair of hubs as a pair of say, xtr's, you'd expect twice the innovation, sure, but also twice the precision and quality control as xtr.
    A lot of those little guys were prototype machining shops, and not really experienced in mass producing anything either. As crummy as some of the reputations got, it may have stemmed from people comparing a small company in its infancy to an 80 year old institution.

    Of course, I'm a hopeless romantic, or an idealistic hippy (depending on who you ask), so I love the worst squealing set of grafton brakes better than anything shimano ever did. Sometimes it's about more than the end result.
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    machine tech crank set

    Quote Originally Posted by flyingsuperpetis
    Hmm. I've heard about 90% good reports about the rear hubs, and the other 10% were anything but flattering. I have a set that have clearly been ridden very hard for nearly a decade, and are rock solid, with some pretty worn parts.

    I recall at around the same time, at a certain large bike MFG I worked for, we figured if we only got 20% of our product back through warranty we were doing pretty well. I think we were usually up around 25% most of the time though. There are two ways of looking at this. One is, every company is going to get broken or defective product back, and while less is obviously better for everyone, in something so chaotic as putting a person on a bicycle and sending them into the world, it has to be expected, anticipated, and planned for. What becomes an issue is how much anyone wants to put up with it. The counterpoint is, when you're paying twice as much for a pair of hubs as a pair of say, xtr's, you'd expect twice the innovation, sure, but also twice the precision and quality control as xtr.
    A lot of those little guys were prototype machining shops, and not really experienced in mass producing anything either. As crummy as some of the reputations got, it may have stemmed from people comparing a small company in its infancy to an 80 year old institution.

    Of course, I'm a hopeless romantic, or an idealistic hippy (depending on who you ask), so I love the worst squealing set of grafton brakes better than anything shimano ever did. Sometimes it's about more than the end result.


    In few days I looking for the pix on an old MbAction and I post it on the forum.

    Ciao

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    I for one have NEVER heard of the Crank, as far as I know they only made Brakes, Levers (both canti and V) hubs, and a couple of different stems - have I missed anything?

    most people I know hate their stuff, I love it, it is one of the things I would collect without putting any on a bike...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Djuc Wun
    I for one have NEVER heard of the Crank, as far as I know they only made Brakes, Levers (both canti and V) hubs, and a couple of different stems - have I missed anything?

    most people I know hate their stuff, I love it, it is one of the things I would collect without putting any on a bike...
    wheel skewers, QR and 5mm allen bolt style.

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    Do you have any of the QR's or a pic?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Djuc Wun
    Do you have any of the QR's or a pic?
    not that i can recall, might be pics of skewers on the bikepro buyers guide.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DeeEight
    not that i can recall, might be pics of skewers on the bikepro buyers guide.
    Not that I found, but they did have these Machine Tech photos.



    From:
    http://www.bikepro.com/products/brak...mach_tech.html





    Both From:
    http://www.bikepro.com/products/hubs/hubs_machine.htm

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    machine tech crank set

    Quote Originally Posted by flyingsuperpetis
    There it is again! I'm a Machine Tech fan too, and this is the second time i've ever even heard of the legend of their crank. The first fellow to mention it worked for titec, and he looked long and hard for a photo of one, but could find nothing. Andrea, do you have any pictures? Anyone?

    MBAction june '95

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    found the issue, and that reminds me...

    <img src="http://yoda.densan.ca/kmr/bikes/joes.jpg">

    My Joe's rear derailleur, which I'm practically hoarding as the spots I list it for sale, I've got the price set rather high.

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    propos machine tech: i used the cantilever brakes, i picked up a blue one for forty bones just as v-brakes were coming out. they worked pretty well, and looked the part, too. i still have the brake sitting in my basement. the thing was, the pivots didn't seem to hold up long, mine are reasonably wobbly. argh.
    i would kill to have a set of the zeroflex 2 cantis, which were even coller-looking than the originals.
    tim

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    oh my, I dont think I will sleep again untilI have a pair of those cranks, or at least see a colour picture!

    I'm in love........

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    Some of my rare parts are, World Class titanium bb, SLR brake levers I think these were the best, nuke proof hubs. You might see them on my web site.

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    Are Hi-E mtn bike hubs rare?

    I found this pic of a road bike front hub on the net.



    The set I have black anodized center tubes.

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    Found that there is a new rear road hub on ebay (came up in a google search).

    http://cgi.ebay.ca/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?...category=56197

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    MachineTech Cranks.

    Quote Originally Posted by alasa
    MBAction june '95

    Andrea
    Of all the luck. Those look an awful lot like a certain pair of cranks I'm working on at the moment. Anyone know how I might get in touch with any of the Machine Tech guys? I need to have a chat before going any further on these, or they'd have a pretty good case in court...
    Nothing left to lose, & half mad.

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    Quote Originally Posted by flyingsuperpetis
    Of all the luck. Those look an awful lot like a certain pair of cranks I'm working on at the moment. Anyone know how I might get in touch with any of the Machine Tech guys? I need to have a chat before going any further on these, or they'd have a pretty good case in court...
    Machinetech went bust several years ago, and didn't hold any patents either that I can recall.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CraigH
    Are Hi-E mtn bike hubs rare?
    not particularly, the 30 hole ones are but only because its an unusual model w/high-low flanges, 20 on drive side, 10 non drive side, sunrims made the matching rims, and Dave's Wheels used to sell 'em as recently as a year or so ago. The advantage? less weight than a 32 spoke wheel, with 10 pulling spokes on the all important drive flange (the one carrying most of the torque) which is more than on a 36H hub, laced 2X as I recall drive side and radial non-drive.

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    Yep, but it'd take all of about five seconds for someone to come out of the woodwork, papers in hand, once my cranks hit print. I'm not going to risk anything on this, cause I've been on the other end of one of these deals, & it's never good for anyone in the end.
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    Dave's Wheels are where I got mine about ~12 years, after reading an article in MBA about a Ti GT Ziazhang (sp) they built up with light parts.

    Wheels I have are:
    32 hole, 3 cross drive, radial non-drive rear
    28 hole radial front
    Rims are Sun CR-17 (Chinook) think?

    I'm still using the front wheel on the commuter. The rear hub needs a new bearing, but you have to de-lace on side of the wheel to change it, so I haven't got around to it.

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    My stratums... 1996...I guess they are rare. Actually, those 2 are not mine but Ive got the same ones and one of them I actually bought form the person who took this pic.


    and here are some crazy coda magics that I wish were mine:
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    pineapple bob...

    Speaking of old weird hubs, what am I ever going to do with this???
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    Quote Originally Posted by flyingsuperpetis
    Speaking of old weird hubs, what am I ever going to do with this???
    That thing is amazing! I want it! Who made it?
    Herro prease

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheRedMantra
    My stratums... 1996...I guess they are rare. Actually, those 2 are not mine but Ive got the same ones and one of them I actually bought form the person who took this pic.
    There's a stratum on ebay right now but its seller is one of the guys who doesn't combine shipping and charges $15US for everything.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheRedMantra
    That thing is amazing! I want it! Who made it?
    For some reason I'm thinking either Ulterrain's second hub design, or Union USA. They're not Pulstar's thats for sure.

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    The only pic of my Retro parts...

    Is this picture of my Westpine Neutron Front hub 9and I guess my 1998 Sid is sort of retro).
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    I was a westpine dealer and never bothered to get one of their hubs for myself. They weren't particularly light and they came out at a time when I was looking for seriously light hubs.

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    Pineapple hub

    Quote Originally Posted by TheRedMantra
    That thing is amazing! I want it! Who made it?
    That is a Pineapple hub made by Clark-Kent, we have 3 of them. I laced one up using a full radial lacing and just got the picture of one using a twisted lacing. Might try that one next!
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    Quote Originally Posted by First Flight
    That is a Pineapple hub made by Clark-Kent, we have 3 of them. I laced one up using a full radial lacing and just got the picture of one using a twisted lacing. Might try that one next!
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    Now I remember, the double pull and side flanges were designed specifically for twist lacing.

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    Hmmm... man didn't realize my stuff was rare or retro...



    Will have to get some pics up in the near future.

    List includes...

    Nuke Proof Carbon Hubs (Atom Bombs) with Ti Spokes and Bonti Rims. (Look for this on Ebay soon.)
    Nuke Proof Superflys with Spline Drive. (In use on the hardtail.)
    Amp F-4 Carbon. (In use on the hardtail)
    Machine Tech Front Hub (I've already had offers on this one... freaky) (In use on wife's bike)
    Vetta Tri Shock Tublar Ti Saddle (and other Vetta saddles) (In use on dually and one in storage)
    First Generation XTR pods. Magura Clamps. (In use on hardtail)
    Second Generation XTR pods with precision Billet Clamps. (Storage)
    Different Intergrated Bars/Ends - Generic Bahrma's, GT, Scott. (Two in use, two in storage)
    Avid Tri-Align III's. (One in use on hardtail, One set in box - hehehe)
    Hershey Longneck V's. (In use on wife's bike, another brake in storage)

    Might be a few more hiding in the bottom of the box, but that's the crux of 'em.

    Will have to get some pics up soon.

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    Ive got some old stuff

    Here s some stuff I have laying around.
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    Pineapple hubs... mmmm.... got a mini review from a British MTB mag, MTB PRO May '95 it says:

    "PINEAPPLE HUBS: I saw these first at Annaheim 1994 show and thought they looked incredible. Now, CAD are bringing in these fruity beauties. The idea is that yo can build a really strong triangulated, snowflake wheel. Your wheelbuilder will hate you though. "

    RRP in the UK was: 120 front, 160 rear....

    so there we go....

    Djuc

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    Dia Compe SS-5 levers

    and Straddle Rod
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    Ahhh, Magic Motorcycle....

    Actually those are Magic Motorcycle pre Cannondale purchase. And while they are cool as hell there's no point to riding them as chainrings are impossible to find.

    What I'd love to see/have is a pair of the Magic Motorcycle wheels!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shayne
    Actually those are Magic Motorcycle pre Cannondale purchase. And while they are cool as hell there's no point to riding them as chainrings are impossible to find.

    What I'd love to see/have is a pair of the Magic Motorcycle wheels!!

    Tell me more about this Magic wheel............................................. ........................
    Me curious.

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    Well they were kinda like the original Spinergy wheels except instead of carbon blades they were aluminum. Custom machined hubs and rims and used an ultra-compact custom cassette...I know the small cog was 9T and I think the largest was 18T.

    Circa 1992??

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    Machine Tech Stem

    Here's my bike. I guess the rare parts are the frame, bar and fork. It's a Schwinn Project Underground with a Look Fournales fork and a Klein Stratum 90 bar.

    My other rare parts include a Joe's similar to the attached pic, and an all black one like the black and blue one posted by DeeEight.

    I've been looking for a Machine Tech stem like this for some time now... the other stems they made are kind of ugly.
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