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    Grove Innovations

    Hi, Bikes from Bill Grove
    Grove AGGRESSOR 1992 with XT



    Hard Core 1992 with XC pro MD

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    Great colors, great builds. Any noticeable difference in ride quality between them?
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    The Aggressor is more confortable. But both are fantastique to ride.
    The Aggressor is 18 ". Hard Core is 17 "
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    Hardcore seems built for technical singletrack riding. Tall bb and stiff, direct connection btween front end and BB. Sharp handling at slow speeds.
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    Those are both fantastic...thanks for posting.

    Definitely on my wish list....I'm from PA, and still can't find one...


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    Old rules...



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    Quote Originally Posted by eastcoaststeve View Post
    Those are both fantastic...thanks for posting.

    Definitely on my wish list....I'm from PA, and still can't find one...


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    That t-shirt is awesome, makes me think of my wicked fat t-shirt:

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    An other AGGRESSOR 1993 with Hot Rods

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    Quote Originally Posted by eastcoaststeve View Post
    Definitely on my wish list....I'm from PA, and still can't find one...
    They don't seem to come up too often, which is somewhat surprising since he seems to have made a couple hundred a year for almost 6-7 years.
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    Some more Details about the AGGRESSOR 1993





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    That aggressor just looks so "Right" - to borrow from my Vdub buddies....its got some serious stance.

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    Grove Innovations X wineberry

    X in wineberry with XT, HotRods and Assault fork (excuse the lame pic)

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    My 91 Hardcore. Made only 3 days after my birthday that year.



    Wife's little x-frame. Perfect stand over height! Need to get around to finishing this one.


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    If Your wifes ever gonna be tired of the X please think of me
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    My Collection

    No quite as extensive as Philippe's collection, but here are my 3 Groves:

    1992 X-Frame


    1992 Ti


    1994 Full Suspension (ready for assembly)

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    Quote Originally Posted by colker1 View Post
    Hardcore seems built for technical singletrack riding. Tall bb and stiff, direct connection btween front end and BB. Sharp handling at slow speeds.
    You ain't kidding there.

    Damn.

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    Digging that susser, MFH.

    All spring, let's go.

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    Aggressor 1992 with with a little bit from " Screaming Warning Orange"

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    A Grove Titan 1993




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    Salut, Grove Innovations Hard Core Neon Solar 1990






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    This one is my favourite. NO wonder it's the one you are riding. The geometry/ fit looks perfect..
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    Philippe,
    Your collection is off the charts. Each and every bike is damn near, if not, perfect. Care to share a list? That way we can request pics.
    Zip ties? Not on my bike!

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    Hi some details from the Grove Hard Core 1992.




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    all very nice bikes.

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    as expected... very nice bike! Hard core 1992 is a beauty.

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    Hi,
    X Grove 17 " with Assault fork 1"


    and something very important for the front derailleur

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    One more X
    Glow in the dark from 1989 / 90 I think.


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    That is just so cool on so many levels.

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    Grove with Henry James lugs







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    Quote Originally Posted by oneschnark View Post
    Hi some details from the Grove Hard Core 1992.


    I love the little neon touch on the rear dropout
    So cool colors and paintjob

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    Hi,
    X neon Solar 19 " (1990 / 1991)
    and another one from 1994





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    Salut, Grove Titan 92 Nr: 3
    1 "



    Grove Titan 1993 1.1 /8

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    X with Hard Core Fork

    Hard Core 1989 / 90


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    Hi, more Details from The Hard Core Frame and Hammerhead



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    Quote Originally Posted by oneschnark View Post
    Hi, more Details from The Hard Core Frame and Hammerhead



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    terrrrrrible !!!
    Love that, love those colors !

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    wow! gorgeous, Philippe. Now wash all the poop off the deck.

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    Looks like it was always ran geared. That begs to be ridden SS.
    Zip ties? Not on my bike!

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    A few of my X

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    Hi, beautiful X...

    Neon Solar Aggressor and Hard Core

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    Hi Grove Innovation Owners!

    I thought I'd share my Hardcore on here.

    Back in 1996 my sister went to Penn State main campus. While visiting her I stopped at The Bicycle Shop. That is where I got the frame with matching bottle cage, fork, and handle bar/stem. The frame is a small. It was a wall hanging. I was told it was built, but then taken for parts. The front fork is a Grove Assault fork. They weren't sure of where and if the bike came with the Hardcore fork. I built the bike with 21 spd. XT at the time. A decade later I thought the horizontal drops were being wasted without it being a single speed. Let me know what you think.

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    Nice looking ride!
    Somec is like the digital Zunow
    And this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JD5h3y0a9AU

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    Some Hard Core news





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    Salut,

    Hard Core (one from the last one)




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    Salut oneschnark, I am always amazed and appreciative of your dedication and enthusiasm towards Grove for many years now, and the quality and attention to detail towards your bike builds. But what planted the seed, to grow and flourish into this commitment for a brand less known?

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    Hi, Hard Core Fork



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    All together

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    I'm from Pennsyltuckey. I want to restore a vintage mountain bike. I ride single speed. I want a Grove.

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    Hi, some News

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    Just a guess, but I’m thinking none of those Grove frames ever broke. Very “tough” looking.

    Enjoying all the bikes posted, great work everyone!

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    Hi,

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    Philippe,
    Yet another beautiful build to your very high standards, congrats!
    Back in the early 1990s, I had a Hardcore built with the lower BB height of an Assault/Aggressor, in size 19 inch, with a low-rise Hothead, painted in Wineberry with silver splatter. I regret selling it on a regular basis, and dream about finding it again, or another like it, some day.
    Cheers,
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    Some News




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    Hi, X with assault Fork and Grove stem

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    Early X Frame

    Not all Groves have ended up across the pond! Nearly 27yrs. after building this bike up at my bike shop in VT. it is coming back to me. My partner in the shop who I bought out a year after opening took this with him on the way out the door. We have remained friends over the years and in sporadic contact. The bike was usually part of our conversations and I always have told him that if he ever gets rid of it to let me know. Well he did and didn't, longish story, but I intercepted it anyway.

    The bottom line is he never rode it. It has less than 100 miles on it I believe. All as built in 1987 in my shops racing "Team Holstein" motif. Farmer John tire on the rear of course! XT shifters/derailleurs and back brake, Bullseye hubs (Sun Mistral rims) and cranks (with keeper), can't remember what seat post but I do believe there is a white Turbo under that hideous gel seat cover. Flex stem due to my association with Off Road at the time and Suntour pedals with it looks like Toe Flips of some sort.

    The front brake is the only thing that I don't wholly remember although I know it is what I put on there. It is a set of Suntour Roller Cam arms with some king of lever/pulley thing going on that may come back to me when I get the bike in the stand here in a little bit. If anyone knows what the heck it is though in the meantime feel free to speak up!

    If you look through the thread there is not another X on here with an under the seatstay brake mount, although there are some with under the chain stay. I got this from Bill after building a few Assaults and looking to do another he mentioned that they had just started making these so I went for one instead. Got delivered to me at the first New England Mtn. Bike Championships at Mt. Snow where his guy won the Pro class going away. I remember him getting a can of coke hand up on the last lap and that always stuck with me (obviously).

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    Great looking bike, more pics of that front brake, when you can.
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    Hello Bob, thanks for sharing your very early Grove X with us.

    In addition to the U-brake position, this is the only X I have seen with shift cables routed internally, entering the head tube, running through the boom tube, and with the rear exiting the drive side seat stay behind the rear axle. Very nice details!

    In the pictures I saw of this bike on FB, I did not see the pink, udder painting on the area around the bottom bracket. Now, I can rest easy that it is really a Vermont Holstein.

    I lived in Vermont and visited your shop at least once back in the day, and met you through Steve Bellefeuille at a trade show or two since then. Thanks again for the success story of re-capturing the Grove that got away; it gives me hope that mine will find its way back to me, against all odds.

    Cheers,
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    Do you mean this guy?

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    T.K., Yeah I know exactly who you are. Cheers back at ya!

    Thanks for pointing out the oddities. I do remember that the bike was a PITA to cable! Do unto udders!
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    Classy bike. Thanks for sharing. But why are you selling it when you got it back after such a long time.

    1988 Grove Innovations X Frame (mint original condition) | Retrobike

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bigwheel View Post
    Not all Groves have ended up across the pond! Nearly 27yrs. after building this bike up at my bike shop in VT. it is coming back to me. My partner in the shop who I bought out a year after opening took this with him on the way out the door. We have remained friends over the years and in sporadic contact. The bike was usually part of our conversations and I always have told him that if he ever gets rid of it to let me know. Well he did and didn't, longish story, but I intercepted it anyway.

    The bottom line is he never rode it. It has less than 100 miles on it I believe. All as built in 1987 in my shops racing "Team Holstein" motif. Farmer John tire on the rear of course! XT shifters/derailleurs and back brake, Bullseye hubs (Sun Mistral rims) and cranks (with keeper), can't remember what seat post but I do believe there is a white Turbo under that hideous gel seat cover. Flex stem due to my association with Off Road at the time and Suntour pedals with it looks like Toe Flips of some sort.

    The front brake is the only thing that I don't wholly remember although I know it is what I put on there. It is a set of Suntour Roller Cam arms with some king of lever/pulley thing going on that may come back to me when I get the bike in the stand here in a little bit. If anyone knows what the heck it is though in the meantime feel free to speak up!

    If you look through the thread there is not another X on here with an under the seatstay brake mount, although there are some with under the chain stay. I got this from Bill after building a few Assaults and looking to do another he mentioned that they had just started making these so I went for one instead. Got delivered to me at the first New England Mtn. Bike Championships at Mt. Snow where his guy won the Pro class going away. I remember him getting a can of coke hand up on the last lap and that always stuck with me (obviously).
    Should clean up nicely. Seatpost looks like a Suntour XC to me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mauricer View Post
    Classy bike. Thanks for sharing. But why are you selling it when you got it back after such a long time.
    He's a streamlined individual...plus a part of that silly 'Bigwheel' 29'er fad.
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    I shouldn't be asking anyway. Have sold so many bikes in the last 10 years, so shouldn't be surprised. And a 29er found its way into my stable as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rumpfy View Post
    He's a streamlined individual...plus a part of that silly 'Bigwheel' 29'er fad.
    That was so 1999 Eric. I'm on the b+ bus these days. Just trying to raise enough bike bucks to be able to afford one....
    A bike by any other name is still a bike.

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    Some news...


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