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    love my DBs, but only the old ones, my first proper MTB was a 92 Topanga, I tarted it up with XT, and got the weight down below 28lbs, but still heavy for the time. She served me well.

    Seatpost wise my 93 Axis Pro was 26.8, but my 94 Axis, and 96 Axis R and WCF 4.0 are 27.0

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    Thanks Pyro, It was a 27mm, Already replaced it, Now I need a 6 speed cassette, slips in 5th and 6th gear,Already replaced the chain,I agree the older diamondbacks were pretty good solid bikes although I really like the looks of the response, there is a black 2008 on ebay looks nice, thank god there is ebay for people with older bikes now if everyone wasn't so greedy when it comes to new old stock, Thanks Again

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    are you on retrobike.co.uk? Great resource for the older stuff. UK, US and European contributers to help build up old beasts.

    The DiamondBacks post 99 until fairly recently are just BSOs and not worth the time of day.

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    Thanks pyro, I've been on that site before, I'll have to check it out again more closely, I agree with you about older bikes, Like say the 80's, before suspension when bikes were 18 speeds and way simpler, Pretty sure my apex is an 88, Smoke paint job, Deore components, Deore u brake mounted under the chainstays, 18speed, It's coming along slowly but surely, Never had a diamondback before, Don't know why, Good solid fun bike, Can't you replace individual gears on cassette freewheels? Don't know about cassettes always had the screw on freewheels on all my mountain bikes.

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    you can replace some of the smaller cogs, as they are loose, but don't think you can on the larger ones. Yours could be 80s, or 90-91 as the smoke paint jobs were a theme then. Got any pics?

    I think ebay and retrobike are the only places you may find one, but you may need to be patient.

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    Got a few Diamond Backs from the early 90s. Wondered whether anybody knows the seatpost size for a 92 Axis?

    I've got a 91 Axis and that takes a 30.4mm, and a 91 Apex that takes a 27.0mm seatpost. The 92 Axis frame is at least the same type of tubing as the 91, and looks to have an oversize seat-tube like the 91 Axis, but the size of shim (thermoplastic) that I used on my 91, seems slightly too big for my 92 Axis - so anyone know for sure?

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    anyone got one of those easton elite 90s vertex? That was a cool racing bike.

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    Thanks Pyro, I read somewhere that you could replace some and the two smallest (two highest gears) are the ones slipping, Next time my one son who has posted pictures for me before comes over I'll have him post some, Thanks again, Scott

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    seems I've had a post deleted by the mods. I was only pointing someone to where they may find the answer. I can't post pics until I've got 10 posts, but you can find them on my flickr

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    I purchased my diamondback last week, been out on it for the first time today

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    what is it mate? what year? how did you find it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pyro Tim View Post
    what is it mate? what year? how did you find it?
    Sorry i failed to read it was for classics. Just saw diamondback and assumed it was any

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    Hey Tim, Sorry if I got you in trouble trying to help me out...

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    Quote Originally Posted by s.reynolds View Post
    Sorry i failed to read it was for classics. Just saw diamondback and assumed it was any
    No worries bud, what is it, and how does it ride?

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    My '94 Axis TR. I bought it almost three years ago in brand new condition. The original owner said he rode it once. Still in almost original condition.


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    Nice, I've got the Ti railed version of that saddle on my 94 Axis. Mine's rigid though, and Nickle plated

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    Whehey!! I bout one of those Axis TR's new in 94...great bike, only recently gave it to a friend when I had to move interstate...otherwise I'd still have it...

    Dunno how you ride it with the stem upsidedown though? (although it would be better that way if yoiu had a 4in fork...but not with the OG manitous on it)
    All the gear and no idea.

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    Picked up this 1993? DB Response Elite last year for $150 with a mish-match of newer/upgraded parts included that were easily worth the entire cost. Frame features "snake stays" (curvy seatstatys) and is built with custom thinwall heat treated truetemper TT lite tubing, drawn to DB specifications, probably very similar specifications to truetemper OX tubing. The frame showed very little wear or scratches on the original paint when I got it and I enjoy riding it, put some hard trail miles on it since then. I've added a disk brake to the front fork, but am still using rim brakes in the back (frame has no rear disk bracket) but it still stops confidently. Ive ridden it with different forks set at 120mm, 100m and 80mm travel and the longer 120mm travel fork induces a bit too slack of head tube angle (around 67°), handeling is a bit better overall with slightly lower travel fork.

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    Nice bike, not sure about the forks though. I think it's a 94, based on the tubing. The 93 had True Temper AVR/OX OS. It had Mani 3s originally, and STX/LX/XT. ($1030 new back then!)

    If it were mine, I'd try and get it as original as possible, but with some period upgrages to XT throughout.

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    94 Axis

    93 Axis Pro

    96 Axis R

    I have stripped this, and am building up at mo, with stem right way up

    I'll put pics up of me WCF 4.0 when I rebuild it. Not happy enough with it at the mo to post in public

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    I always liked the 1996 Axis with the Ritchey Logic Comp Prestige tubing and the cool paint. Nice one!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pyro Tim View Post
    I have stripped this, and am building up at mo, with stem right way up
    That's a relief. You currently own 4 DBs?! Do you have a favorite?

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    I've had the WCF 4.0 from new, sort of, so I guess that's my favourite. Got it in 99 in a bike shop in Houston, TX, as an ex demo frame. The ride is amazing, with the carbon and steel offering their different characteristics making the power input translate directly into forward motion. I've done 1000s of miles on her.

    I've not ridden the Axis R yet, as when I got it, it needed a fair amount of work, and parts. I now have all the parts, except the grips, which should have arrived last week, and plan to build it today. She looks great and I'm looking forward to riding her.

    The Axis is great, and my favourite rigid bike. I've not owned her long, but done a lot of miles on her already. Unfortunately not enough space in the stable for the Axis Pro, so will have to move her on.

    I also have a 98 GT Timberline, and 92 Kona LavaDome frame. I recently sold a 94 Ascent, 95 Ascent, and 94 Sorrento. Just bought a small 93 Kona LavaDome. Wife has a 94 Kona Hahanna

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    Specs
    94 Axis
    Still factory spec
    Deore XT M737 throughout, Bontrager BCX rims, Bontrager bars, Tioga stem

    Additions
    XT M780 pedals, Flite Ti saddle now on it, the Bonty Ti is now polished up and ready to go back on should I decide.

    Axis Pro
    Now stripped. Was a mix of XTR M900 and XT M730, 735, 734. Should have been M900 throughout.

    Axis R
    Rock Shox Judy SL, upgraded to stiff springs
    Deore XT M739, except chainset, Ritchey Pro. Rear wheel Hope, red ti, on Mavic X517, front current M737 on Mavic X517, but bidding on a red hoped one
    Currently M737 pedals, but M780 ordered, Flite Ti saddle

    WCF 4.0 will be
    Deore XT M739, except chainset M737 (I prefer the look), Hope Ti on X519 up front, M737 on X519 rear
    Pace RC35 MXCD
    Onza HO Ti pedals
    Flite Ti
    Ti bars
    Looking for Ti or exotic 27.0 seat tube, Ti ahead stem

    All bikes amberwall Smoke and Dart tyres.

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    those 94's axis' are truly nice bikes, I regret getting rid of mine, fitted like a glove (i ordered it in 94, sight unseen, and it was perfect)
    All the gear and no idea.

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    I believe this is a 1986 (ish) Apex, it passed through my hands a couple summers ago-wish I could have kept it, it was pretty much mint and original. In an interesting twist, later that same summer I found a Scott Boulder with the exact same frameset but a newer Deore component group. It's like they were separated at birth.

    This one had a nice mix of mint 1st gen XT with a little Suntour (XC-II pedals and roller cams) and Dia-Compe, Grab-On grips, high flange Joytech/Suzue hubs, and RM-25 rims. Tange double butted tubing (w/partial wraparound seatstays), spare spokes on the chainstay, rack bosses...cool bike. I was very happy to sell it along without splitting it out for parts-hate to do that with such a fine example.









    And for reference, the Scott Boulder-I just noticed the seatstay bridge on the Scott is curved and the Apex is straight, and the Scott has a Tange 'Special' tubing sticker, but other than that, twins!

    WANTED: FISHER PARAGON, 1991. 21" or so...

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    That extra spoke storage is a great idea! Why did that fall out of favor? I would imagine those few extra grams of weight would mean nothing when you are 20 miles into the mountain and break a spoke.

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    The fork looks different and the rear upper rack mounts are in different locations also.
    Zip ties? Not on my bike!

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    I've been busy the past couple of days putting my Axis R back together, having stripped it after buying it back in October. It was collected and posted it to me by a retrobike member, for which I am extremely grateful to him.

    When it arrived the elastomers had gone, the BB was ropey, large chainring was bent, the saddle had a couple of rips in it, it had plastic pedals and it had Gripshift on it. I didn't like the rear wheel much either. All were changed.

    Money was tight, and I spent my time sourcing quality parts at best prices.
    I couldn't get a 44 or 46 tooth Ritchey chainring, so got a 48 tooth one from ebay. Well, I like going fast down hill

    I bought a red hoped rear wheel on Mavic X517 as a spare back in October, from a retrobike member. UN72 BB, and got the M739 shifter combo from retrobike members. Thanks to all of you.
    190lb+ stiff springs from ebay, and some Porcipaws and M780 SPDs from ebay too. I managed to get the Flite Ti from ebay as well, by buying a bike! Thanks to another retrobike member for collecting and posting to me. This was the source of the rear tyre too, a Smoke Front I got as a reissue from bike-discount.de

    To help fund this I sold the Gripshift and the original M739 levers.

    I stripped her down to her bare bones


    Thanks to a couple of retrobike members for their invaluable advise and help with the forks. I learned a lot. Here she is with the forks rebuilt and the BB in. It was a testing afternoon yesterday in the cold, with having to sell and fettle my wife's BSO at the same time.


    It was then a case of work quickly this afternoon before the light ran out



    For some reason it was a real b*tch to index the front mech, but sorted now


    I had tried M737 pedals




    but they were far too heavy, so this is the finished article, but it was pretty dark by now, so will probably get some better pics in the morning, on my test ride



    Spec
    Frame: DBR Axis R 19"
    Fork: Rock Shox Judy SL
    Mechs: M739 XT
    Brakes: M739 XT
    Chainset: Ritchey Comp
    Pedals: M780 XT
    BB: UN72
    Bars: Avenir
    Stem: Tioga
    Headset: Tioga
    Seatpost: Not sure
    Saddle: Selle Italia Flite Ti
    Tyres: Panaracer Smoke, reissue Dart. May change for Smoke and Dart backwall
    Wheels: Front M737 on Mavic ... & Hope red on Mavic X519
    Cassette: M737 XT
    Skewers: M739 XT
    Grips: Onza Porcipaws

    Comments and critiques welcome

    Looking for a Red Hope front hub on Mavic X519
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    Great effort. Those pedals are heavy but they work great and frankly, I figured I could stand to lose a pound and use them.

    Good job and happy to see you moving forward on your projects.

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    Yeah, there is that, but I'm a little obsessive about weight of bikes. It's one of the reasons I don't like modern bikes, as I can't afford one that will come in below my max weight allowance. I need to get the Axis R weighed soon, to make sure I'm not overweight on her. Don't like being above 26 pounds for a bouncy, and 23 for a rigid. My 94 Axis comes in dead on 23

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pyro Tim View Post
    Yeah, there is that, but I'm a little obsessive about weight of bikes. It's one of the reasons I don't like modern bikes, as I can't afford one that will come in below my max weight allowance. I need to get the Axis R weighed soon, to make sure I'm not overweight on her. Don't like being above 26 pounds for a bouncy, and 23 for a rigid. My 94 Axis comes in dead on 23
    seatpost and stem look heavy.. that's where you could lose 100 grams and gain a lot of beauty. Syncros, kore, titec ti.. so many possibilities.

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    You are right, I am looking for a seatpost, but nice 27.0 are as rare as hens teeth, and I need 3 of them Stem wise, I may or may not change, as it is original spec, and isn't that heavy. Money is still tight, I'm not working at the moment.

    My WCF 4.0 has Ti bars, and I've dibbed a Ti stem subject to photos on the other forum

    That has Onza HO Ti pedals, Hope Ti suspension front hub, Ti skewers. That will be my weight weenie. Carbon and steel frame, Pace RC35 MXCD forks, Flite Ti, M739 throughout, Mavic X519s.

    I do have a pair of Hope ti hubs, and some Campag Stheno rims on their way to me, so I'll get them built up and on her too I think

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    Looks great, though that is one truly massive chainring!

    It's interesting to see different specs in different countries - that was never called Axis R in the US, but was just the 1996 Axis:

    BikePedia - 1996 Diamondback Axis Complete Bicycle

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    It is a bit large isn't it

    We had both the Axis and Axis R. This had SRT800X gripshift, not the 600 the Axis had, and M739 XT V-brakes and levers, rather than LX cantis and Diacomp levers, and the frame has no mounts for cantis. M739 XT Front mech rather than LX too. Bars are different from the Bikepedia spec too. I know the forks are not stock on my bike, and this was originally rigid. The original saddle was a San Marco, in blue, with Diamondback logo embroidered on it. It had the original VelociRaptor tyres too when I got it.

    Final difference is the colour. Mine is Blue, red, white. Not blue, red, silver, which the standard Axis was.

    Opinions though please, amber or black wall tyres?

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    Got some pics today, before and during the test ride. Despite going for the hard/stiff springs, still a bit bouncy for me. Any suggestions? Other than that, the indexing went to pot, so assume the cables have stretched, so need to sort it in the morning before my ride. My front brakes came loose, resulting in the right block rubbing against the spokes. Glad I got a couple of tuning kits last week









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    Re: The Diamond Back thread?

    Pucked up a 96 DB Topanga the other day off craigslist in pretty good shape to use as a family runabout (baby toting duty). I love the classic geometry and look. Too bad its such a mute color, the vintage DBs had such great schemes.

    (Sorry for the sideways pics - they looked right on the phone)

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    I like that Topanga. My 1st proper MTB was a 92 Topanga. It was purple, but that green works for me. Get some period Ano on that, and it will look a treat.

    Fingers crossed I'll post some pic of my WCF tomorrow

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    Period Ano? What's that?

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    Anodized products. Hubs, bars, bolts, seatpost etc. Like the red anodized hubs on my Axis R. There is a thread with the pics in the DiamondBack section of the main forum.

    Think I'd look out for green pieces on your bike. If you can't find them, you can get aluminium (aluminum) pieces anodized at various companies. At least in the UK, I assume it would be easier in the US

    1st job though, change that saddle, it's an armchair!

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    Re: The Diamond Back thread?

    OK gotcha. I agree some green ano bits (and a proper teardown, degreasing and full reassembly, maybe with new decals) would really spruce up the old gal, however I picked up this steed for a meager $45 in decent shape, able it with an armchair for a saddle, so its perfect as is for local rail trail duty toting 40lbs of baby and seat over the rear axle. Maybe someday it will be a proper trail rider again.

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    My rideable collect

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    My longest serving, but now completed(ish) rider
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    Here's my current ride. 22yr old Diamondback Ascent EX 18" frame, 21 spd. Had it since 1991 *new* still have the owners manual too, in near mint shape, and I still ride it weekly, a very dependable ride.
    The Diamond Back thread?-img-20130517-00176v2.jpg.
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    Quote Originally Posted by hifi_guy View Post
    Here's my current ride. 22yr old Diamondback Ascent EX 18" frame, 21 spd. Had it since 1991 *new* still have the owners manual too, in near mint shape, and I still ride it weekly, a very dependable ride.
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    Nice ascent ex,Real good looking bike.

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    I'll have to post a pic of my '91 Pepto pink Diamond Back Master TG road bike, if only for the novelty. DB had some of the coolest paint in the old days, GT too.

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    Cool-blue Rhythm My Diamond Back Apex

    I saw this thread and decided to post up some pics of my Diamond Back Apex, I got it from my uncle as a gift and I love it! I'm not sure on the year, I'm fairly new to mountain biking, been doing it for about 2 years now, but I gotta say I love this bike it's awesome and always begs to go faster! It had the old thumb shifters, the DX ones, but they broke, they were gummed up inside and cracked on the outside so I replaced them with newer canti-shifter combo levers, and it has a WTB Speed V saddle, but other than that I believe it's all original, still has the DX front and rear derailleur, I was thinking of replacing the fork with a suspension one, but I fell in love with this fork, plus, if it ain't broke don't fix it, right? I've taken it out to a few trails and it's just great! I want to eventually get some wider and better tires, but for now these will do, I'd really appreciate it if someone could tell me what year it is thanks! (sorry for the crummy pics, lighting was bad).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeff77 View Post
    I saw this thread and decided to post up some pics of my Diamond Back Apex, I got it from my uncle as a gift and I love it! I'm not sure on the year, I'm fairly new to mountain biking, been doing it for about 2 years now, but I gotta say I love this bike it's awesome and always begs to go faster! It had the old thumb shifters, the DX ones, but they broke, they were gummed up inside and cracked on the outside so I replaced them with newer canti-shifter combo levers, and it has a WTB Speed V saddle, but other than that I believe it's all original, still has the DX front and rear derailleur, I was thinking of replacing the fork with a suspension one, but I fell in love with this fork, plus, if it ain't broke don't fix it, right? I've taken it out to a few trails and it's just great! I want to eventually get some wider and better tires, but for now these will do, I'd really appreciate it if someone could tell me what year it is thanks! (sorry for the crummy pics, lighting was bad).
    I'd say that was from 1990, given the frame is using Tange tubing. In 91 the frame would have used True Temper tubing (I have a 91 Apex), and in 89 they were using the smoke type paintjobs and straight forks.

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    Miss this old girl.


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    Oh road salt, why you so mean?

    I probably deserved to have this thing stolen.


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    Yeah, I deserved it.

    Between the busted shifter and this sweet cable routing I think I only had three gears.

    I had a lot of fun on this turd believe it or not.


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