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    Diamondback Apex ~1991

    Rescued from the dumpster.

    Diamondback Apex ~1991
    All Shimano DX drivetrain and brakes: crankset, 7sp Shifters-Brake levers, derailers, and canti brakes.

    Steel is real, but the Rock Shox Indy C fork is not likely orignal. She had no wheels and front derailer when I found her. I bought the FD-M650 front derailer on ebay ($9.90 NOS); dug in the parts box for the cassette, chain, seatpost, seat, and wheelset; and cleaned and spit polished her. Now she's my Diamondback Apex 9.9 dollar bike.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cegrover
    Here is a 1991 catalog: http://www.mtb-kataloge.de/html/diamond_back.html

    Axis Team was green with splatter and Axis was black with splatter.

    Maybe the Orange one I bought in 1991 was a leftover? I don't know.

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    Good job!

    Quote Originally Posted by bikerboy
    I have posted this one before, but it was about 4 years ago, so the first pic you see if my uncle's old 1988 Apex purchased in Jan 1988 for $469 (I have the original receipt). It still looks pretty much like it rolled off the showroom floor but does have a few changes to make this more of a townie/cruiser since my dad rides it now.

    The next pictures are of my newly obtained 1983 Ridge Runner II. I got this from a buddy who just doesn't dig mountain bikes, so I gladly bought it from him. The first pictures shows it in its as purchased condition. It was mostly original except for seatpost, saddle, no grips, and tires. I cleaned it up and replaced the rear wheel since the original hub was kinda messed up. The replacement is still period correct with Araya 7X rim, but has a low-flange SR hub rather than the high flange model. I'd love to find some nice old tires for it, but I ain't holding my breath since these Performance tires do the trick.

    Enjoy.
    When I opened this thread I wondered if I would be lucky enough to see a picture of a nice Ridge Runner. I waffled back and forth in 1986 trying to decide between a cdale SM600, a Diamond Back Ridge Runner, and a Scwinn High Sierra. I bought the High Sierra, but always wished that I had purchased the DB instead. I had an opportunity to test ride all three, and the Ridge Runner was probably one of the most stable feeling bikes I had ever ridden. I still keep my eyes open hoping to see one, and in this case just seeing yours brings back some fond early mountain bike memories. Thanks for sharing!

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    well after starting this thread, maybe i'll post a pic...

    now that i have cleared outthe garage and made a bit of a workshop, and discovered all the bits in boxes... my DB is on its way to being standard again... well as close as i can get...



    the original forks are the ones on the ground in the pic
    the original wheels, well the hubs with dt rims are attached to a manitou frame out of pic\the origianl LX front der is in a box on the bench, replaced by an XT one
    i bent the og seatpost,m replaced with an easton on
    the onza HO pedals i never even saw and the seat was replaced with the vetta sl when i piucked it up...

    so not the most amazing bike, but it did me well for many many years

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    Smile Diamondback Apex





























    Came with Panaracer Timbuk II´s, a specialized saddle bag. Has a Conti and Specialized tubes. I´m not sure on the year. Got at a thirft store for 4o dollars Going to Put a WTB Timberwolf on the front. Still waiting for a Blackburn Flea front light. Araya RX-7 rims. So, is this a VRC? Will put full specs later.

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    When I got the bike the front STI shifter was not working. Someone fixed it for me. I think the shifter needed lube or a new spring or something. Now it shifts better. The cassette is Shimano Hyperglide. I´m thinking of ugrading the shifters. The Shimano DX line was discontinued more than ten years ago. I need something that will be compatible. Any ideas would be helpful. Thanks.

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    Yep - it's VRC. The paint job alone is very much retro! What you have is a good quality workhorse bike with nice, mid-level components. Ride it and enjoy it!

    Those first gen. "push-push" Shimano rapidfire shifters are known to stick, but a little lube inside usually works - sounds like you already had that done once. You can probably get good life and performance out of them with occasional maintenance.

    I wouldn't change them unless they fail completely or unless you come across a good set of 7-speed Deore or XT thumb shifters for cheap. Thumbies will be as reliable as anything. If you go to thumbies, though, you'll need brake levers, too. Well, that's unless you luck out and find the rare adapters that allow mountain of thumbies on your integrated setup. Your other choice would be slightly later push-pull rapidfire, but you'll want to make sure you get older ones that work with canti brakes (not v-brakes).

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    I will stick with the STI shifters. The only issue is there´s few STI shifters that I can get if the one I have currently completely bonks on me. I will look in the Deore XT. Although I´m not familiar with shifters and levers and which work well together. I´ll start looking on ebay, etc. Thanks Grover.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KnobbyTire
    I will stick with the STI shifters. The only issue is there´s few STI shifters that I can get if the one I have currently completely bonks on me. I will look in the Deore XT. Although I´m not familiar with shifters and levers and which work well together. I´ll start looking on ebay, etc. Thanks Grover.
    By the way, the thread below has the adapters I was thinking of. My understand is that they allow you to mount a thumbie in place of the original STI shifters. I've never used them, nor seen them installed, however...

    Mystery Part (thumbie content)

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    Seeing this thread reminded me I picked these up a while back to use on a klunker project. Apparently they were specific to the very early Diamond Back MTBs.
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    Need: McMahon brake for roller cam mounts, Mountain Goat fork.

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    Quote Originally Posted by muddybuddy
    Seeing this thread reminded me I picked these up a while back to use on a klunker project. Apparently they were specific to the very early Diamond Back MTBs.

    Yours are a little later and were used on the Ridge Runner II. On the original Ridge Runner from 1982/83, the bars were the same design but had an integral cable hanger.

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    Thats right. If I remember correctly, the ones without the hanger were used in 1984 only?
    Need: McMahon brake for roller cam mounts, Mountain Goat fork.

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    I *LOVED* my 1988 Diamondback Apex with the 'Smoke' paint job.

    I rode that bike for thirteen years until it was stolen, along with two Gary Fishers in 2001. It saw tens of thousands of training, racing (MTB & triathlons) and commuting miles.

    Damn I miss that bike.

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    I have a question about your Diamond Back Axis.

    How is that threadless stem on your Axis?

    A threadless adapter?

    I've been wondering, I have a Marzocchi Drop Off fork.

    I want to put it on my Diamond Back Apex. My Diamond Back

    has a ! 1/8 steerer tube, I believe 25.4.

    My question is can I put the Marzocchi Drop Off in the

    Apex? The marzocchi will probably affect the overall bike geometry.

    Do I need to buy different cups?

    Sorry for my ignorance, but I am not familiar with

    threadless headsets. Any info would help thank you all.

    Oh this is for Mrjustin007 or someone might want to input.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KnobbyTire
    I have a question about your Diamond Back Axis.

    How is that threadless stem on your Axis?

    A threadless adapter?

    I've been wondering, I have a Marzocchi Drop Off fork.

    I want to put it on my Diamond Back Apex. My Diamond Back

    has a ! 1/8 steerer tube, I believe 25.4.

    My question is can I put the Marzocchi Drop Off in the

    Apex? The marzocchi will probably affect the overall bike geometry.

    Do I need to buy different cups?

    Sorry for my ignorance, but I am not familiar with

    threadless headsets. Any info would help thank you all.

    Oh this is for Mrjustin007 or someone might want to input.
    Please don't put that fork on your Diamondback. It is going to screw up the handling big time. You also run the risk of snapping your head tube by installing a fork with a much longer axle to crown length (that is the overall length of the fork). Think of it as a huge lever being used to pry the headtube loose from the rest of the frame. This is surely a case of "just because you can doesn't mean you should."
    Get on your bikes and ride!

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    All right.

    No switching out forks.

    I love my bike. I can go amazingly fast or slow.

    Time to look for a more aggressive frame.

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    Knobby Tire - In that pic I was using an adapter, but have since found & reinstalled the quill stem, derailleurs, & shifters.
    WTB: Bontrager Comp Fork & Syncros metal top cap

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    Classic?

    I bought my Topanga at a police auction about eight years ago. Not sure it's vintage or classic, yet, but it has served me well as a commuter. I've been thinking about replacing it because it's developed a bad case of deferred-maintenance! After reading this thread, I'm not so sure anymore!


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    not good news. got my bike stolen today again at the library.

    Sucks but what can I do. I talked to the library folks before about stolen bikes. And for them to put cameras in the bike area. But they talked like if it was none of their business.

    Not even going to post on craiglist to put rewards or any info.

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    Another 1991 DB Axis

    I picked this one up from Ebay and the photos below are just "before" shots from the auction. I wasn't sure what I wanted to do with it, as these are full-XT bikes and the Mag 21 is a bonus item.

    I spent part of a rainy day last Saturday getting it fixed and cleaned up and it turns out it was in really good shape under the dirt - few marks on the paint and no dings. The fork aired up nicely and works well. I just need to keep WD40ing the left shifter to see if I can get it to ratchet again. It has the typical push-push Rapidfire problem of wanting to stay in the small ring and not 'catch' on the middle or big.

    "After" shots will come soon...
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    All nice bikes. I would like a Diamond back to add to my collection.

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    is there a site i can visit that will help me determine the year of my diamond back by the serial number?

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    are there any old DB catalogues floating about? Looking for the 1994 one, want to get the numnbers on my frame and see how they compare to the axis TT...


    *EDIT... found just what I was looking for.
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    Mannn.....

    My first "real" mountain bike was a 1994 Diamond Back...I want to say it was a sorrento, it was dark green metallic....so wish I still had it, we sold it at a garage sale 6-7 years ago for a ridiculous price because I didn't know any better....

    Would love to find another one just like it....
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    Soak the shifters in gasoline for 24 hours

    Quote Originally Posted by cegrover
    I picked this one up from Ebay and the photos below are just "before" shots from the auction. I wasn't sure what I wanted to do with it, as these are full-XT bikes and the Mag 21 is a bonus item.

    I spent part of a rainy day last Saturday getting it fixed and cleaned up and it turns out it was in really good shape under the dirt - few marks on the paint and no dings. The fork aired up nicely and works well. I just need to keep WD40ing the left shifter to see if I can get it to ratchet again. It has the typical push-push Rapidfire problem of wanting to stay in the small ring and not 'catch' on the middle or big.

    "After" shots will come soon...

    Soak the shifters in gasoline for 24 hours.


    New Solution to Old Shifter Problems

    OK, the solution may not be new, but it’s new to me.

    The Old Shifter Problem
    I’ve worked on three olds bikes lately, all more than 10 years old and likely underutilized. They all had the same index-shifter problem. They would shift from the smallest rear cog to the first few larger cogs, but then the shifter failed to catch and pull the shift cable any further. Thus, the lowest 3 to 5 gears were not engaging. Front index-shifting had similar problems, not all three rings were available.

    Background
    Index shifters are similar to old Swiss watches. To function properly, they utilize a series of springs, levers, gears, ratchets, pulleys, and other mechanisms.

    The Investigation
    Upon inspection of the shifters, I notice substantial old dry stiff decaying grease within the shifting mechanisms- springs, levers, gears, ratchets, pulleys, etc. The dry stiff grease prevented the spring from pulling the ratchet back into the gear teeth of the shifter mechanism. Thus the shift lever had nothing to pull.

    The New Solution
    1. Take the covers off of the shifter. This step maybe optional but I always take the covers off.
    2. Remove the shifters from the handle bar. I just leave the shift cables on.
    3. Soak both the front and rear shifters in your favorite solvent. I use gasoline in a coffee can, its cheap, available, and an excellent solvent. I like to let it sit overnight but 2-4 hours seems to work.
    4. Use a toothbrush to dislodge any stubborn grease. Then rinse the shifters in clean solvent.
    5. Let the solvent dry.
    6. Lube the shifting mechanism with a very light weight lube. I use ProLink chain lube.
    7. Test the shifters to ensure that the ratchet catches all available gears. If not, work the ratchet back and forth so that it moves freely. If it’s still not working, try more cleaning and lubing.
    8. Installing new cables is likely optional.
    9. Reassemble the shifters and go ride.

    Caveat
    This procedure is NOT for the faint of heart. Index shifters are extremely delicate. Permanent unrepairable shifter damage may occur during the procedure.

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    Sounds like a good procedure if a quick shot of WD40 (or other) doesn't work. Luckily, mine was unstuck with just a few shots through the cable 'hatch', working the shifter some and letting it sit overnight.

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    Axis Pro

    I bought a old axis pro secondhand years ago,not sure of the year (ideas?)its black with purple splatt with silver graphics,lx groupset,campagalno aerox? rims ,threaded fork(original) ,v brakes,zoom stem etc.Still works well,i am not sure whether to completely restore it,the paint is good condition and i think its 95% original,just one odd crankarm and zoom stem cap missing.The rim walls are worn can they be machined flat? or do i fit new wheels ,better brakes and possibly suspension forks(any ideas what?)and put old bits to one side.Weighed the bike the another day at 25 lb ish.Pics to follow.Cheers Andy

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    My friend has 92 DB Axis looking for a good home!

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    Hi,

    I have this 1997 DBR axis R:







    Actually, my bike don't have this carbon bottlecage, this stem, these cables/casings, this front derailleur and this rear derailleur. Coming soon, more pics.

    Bye

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    Here's mine!


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    Quote Originally Posted by Laughman
    Hi,

    I have this 1997 DBR axis R:

    Actually, my bike don't have this carbon bottlecage, this stem, these cables/casings, this front derailleur and this rear derailleur. Coming soon, more pics.

    Bye
    That looks like a nice one - I don't think we got that model in the US, as I'm guessing it's a 1997 or 1998 model, based on the DBR logo. The last TT Lite US model I know of was the '97 Apex SE.

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    My de-stickered 1991 or 1992 Ascent Limited Edition >










    Has quite a few non original parts, as it was a bit of a trickle down bike that I'd put parts on that I had no other use for when I upgraded other bikes.
    I gave it to my father years ago, I still enjoy riding it now & again as he's not up to riding any more.

    I serviced an earlier version of this bike at work today, it was red & had a U brake under the chainstays as well as crazy Bio Pace rings. Apart from everything being a bit rusty the paint was almost as new & after cleaning all the parts & replacing the cables it ran really nice.

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    Re-done

    To any Ascent enthusiast.

    Here's my 94 frame. Purchased in Seattle,1995.

    16 years of companionship, upgrades, fixes and jury rigging it now has Black oxide gun-bluing woth clear powder coat over. Did'nt turn out as nice as I might have liked but good enough for another 16 years.

    Putting together now. Yeah, I know, not original, but....

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    It must be invisible!

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    Diamondback Ascent

    Sorry, My pics are too big (or something) I'm trying again

    I'm trying to get on this.

    I just had my early ninety's Diamondback ascent gun-blued and powdered coated. It's in the assembly process with new shocks and other gear.

    I've had it for too long and had too many good times on it to say good bye.

    I want to find out what year it actually is. It's a 1 1/8 in steer tube, I still have the original zoom sport threaded headset. It was originally blue with a way pattern.

    Raleigh no longer has records.

    serial # I3A4671. Appreciate any info and keep in touch.
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    Wavy Pattern, Sticky Keyed computer!

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    Replay

    New to this site and my pics were too large.

    Too bad some things get taken for granted when putting in the web buttons. It's up now, thanks for getting back.

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    My first "real" mountainbike was a bright orange 1991 Diamondback Ascent. I rode the sh!t out of that bike for five years. I headset is now either loose or ovalized. Not sure.

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    I just came across this thread and am glad to see it! I've had a whole bunch
    of bikes over the years, but never more than three at a time. Mostly it was one brand new bike per year. Santa Cruzes, Treks, Fishers, GT, Giant, Cove, hardtail, full suspension, etc.

    After all that, I bought a 1995 Diamond Back Apex frame two years ago while working at the bike shop. Some girl brought it in for an overhaul, and another bike tech told her it would cost over $100, so the girl cringed and decided it would be wiser to buy a new Fisher from us instead, and she gave him the bike for free!!! It was exactly my size,(not his), and so I begged him to sell just the frame to me for $50. He did, and I repainted it and built it up with a bunch of nice, newer parts. It is truely a really sweat bike right now!

    Anyway, the point I'm trying to bring out here is that after all those other bikes, I wind up with this '95 Diamond Back and honestly could'nt be happier, unless maybe if it were a custom Soulcraft or Sycup or something. It's the first DB I've owned and now all of a sudden I'm a DB lover! I don't really like their newer stuff though, but that goes for most other companies as well. This one's a keeper and I'm not parting with it.

    Long live those old Diamond Backs!!!
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    I hate to be a party pooper, but I don't think my old Diamond Back had a nice ride. Sure, it was better than the department store crap that I played around on prior, but it was a low-end bike that handled accordingly. I sure had some good times on that thing, though. Maybe someday I'll rebuild it.

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    I got my DB by accident too.

    I was working in downtown Seattle. And parking spaces there,like beautiful women were always taken. I usd to park on capitol hill and ride into work. One day, I I accidentally left my 'Torpedo' (A massed produced mountain bike I purchased in Munich Germany while living there, to replace my stolen huffy) out on Roy street and needed a way to pedal in and stopped into Play it Again sports" and picked up a used Diamond Back Ascent. It was 100% superior to the German Artificially flavored bike and I started to test my limits on the "San Francisco-esque" hills of Seattle/Tacoma, getting myself into pretty good shape.

    By the time I returned to Southern California (For work) I couldn't find nearby streets that would even make me sweat, so it was time to go mountain. I fell in Love the Fireroads and trails of OC and jury rigged that DB all the way. What can I say? I went through the 'Gucci" trip where I had to have the best, the lightest and the newest and finally settled into a comfortable medium. Anything I've done to that loyal, chromoly frame has been absolutely no waste and she has been an absolute pleasure!

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    Thread Boote'

    Ran across this which was in an old ad back in the day.
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    The future is not google-able. William Gibson

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    Curb Your Enthusiam

    Diamond back mtn bike spotted in Seinfeld's apartment. No longer a Klein collecting dust.
    Check out the last 2 episodes if interested.
    Not sure on the model.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MABman
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    This lady is a "10"! I'm in love!
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    Visible,

    Though blurry. Its done and it works great!
    94-95 Diamondback chromoly frame. Gun blued and powdercoated, and retro fitted.

    Looking forward to another decade plus!
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    whey hey, happy christmas to me... my 1st mtb has returned...



    little bit worse for wear, been sitting in a shed for who knows how long... great bike... now if i could only find the T-bone stem and get ride of the flex stem...

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    Upgrading are fine.

    Going Vintage is alright too, But I really ride mine. And as an school hardtailer, the Frame is the thing. Double butted chromoly back when frames were the major component and DB's were still a great bike. I wish somebody would take them away from Raleigh and retro fit some pride in the production again.

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    yeah, back in the day... well for me 1992-1995, they were a bit of a good thing, not exactly drool material, but very good... these days they seem like junk... but that seems to happen a lot these days...

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    i know its not even close to retro, but:
    30th aniversary team

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