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    Is this a crime?

    I wish I knew my stuff regarding vintage mountain bikes. I know I love them and wish I had the cash for an original Yo Eddie but Iím on an average budget with lotís of bills so something a little more down to earth will do. I recently picked up this 1991 Stumpjumper Comp and it had a shot Manitou fork on it. Everything else is in very clean condition. I started hunting for a suitable fork and found out just how little I know about restoring or fixing mountain bikes. I happened to have an old Panasonic MC 5500 frame laying around so I tried using the fork. I cut it down a bit and it seems to work fine. Iíd rather have a Stumpjumper fork but I have no idea where to find one.
    Is this a crime what Iíve done here? Any help/tips would be awesome.
    I already know itís ugly as can be
    If you guys think this fork will work I will strip it down and paint it.
    Iím not a heavy charger - just light trail riding.

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    I think what you've done fits the bike perfectly. That bike will handle better with that rigid fork than with an old, worn out suspension fork.

    As for the next step, I'd say don't bother painting the fork, and save you time and money for sourcing an even nicer rigid fork. Keep an eye on eBay for an appropriately sized Spinner, Tange, Specialized Direct Drive or Ritchey fork. You'll want to make sure you're getting top shelf versions of each, so what you'll want to look for is full chromoly construction and cast, not stamped dropouts. I've also found a good indicator for a nice riding steel fork to be a sub 2 pound weight.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LeeDumler View Post
    I think what you've done fits the bike perfectly. That bike will handle better with that rigid fork than with an old, worn out suspension fork.

    As for the next step, I'd say don't bother painting the fork, and save you time and money for sourcing an even nicer rigid fork. Keep an eye on eBay for an appropriately sized Spinner, Tange, Specialized Direct Drive or Ritchey fork. You'll want to make sure you're getting top shelf versions of each, so what you'll want to look for is full chromoly construction and cast, not stamped dropouts. I've also found a good indicator for a nice riding steel fork to be a sub 2 pound weight.
    Thank you sir. That was exactly what info I was looking for. Now Iíll go Google ďSpinnerĒ and ďcastĒ to get up to speed.

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    So I scoured ebay and lotís of forks but most are 1 1/8Ē. I believe I need 1Ē? Correct?
    Looks like some patients are in order.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bp101 View Post
    So I scoured ebay and lotís of forks but most are 1 1/8Ē. I believe I need 1Ē? Correct?
    Looks like some patients are in order.
    Yes, you are looking for a threaded 1" fork. You'll also want to make sure that any potential fork has the correct length steerer tube with a long enough threaded portion for your bike.

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    I thin the fork looks quite nice (from the pics, could be aweful in real life) the bit of blue just sets off the rest of the bike nicely.
    All the gear and no idea.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mik_git View Post
    I thin the fork looks quite nice (from the pics, could be aweful in real life) the bit of blue just sets off the rest of the bike nicely.
    I was thinking about a quick cheap rattle can paint job and matching the red decals. It really looks funky in person.

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    the bigger crime is that seat...
    All the gear and no idea.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mik_git View Post
    the bigger crime is that seat...
    Canít argue with that. Itís on the list for replacing. Previous/original owner said he had the shop where he bought it change out a bunch of things. Brakes, wheels, seat...
    Iím slowly going to bring it back to original if I come across the parts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bp101 View Post
    I was thinking about a quick cheap rattle can paint job and matching the red decals. It really looks funky in person.
    On the forks? Yeah, I wouldn't paint the frame though.

    As for your question, is this a crime?

    Gees, it's not as if you've hacked off the cable guides and MIG welded a disc tab to it. A lot of people chuck their toys over things that can be swapped in 10 minutes with a 5mm allen key, and while we might all prefer originality, there is no crime to get an old bike on the road and getting used.

    Grumps

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    Quote Originally Posted by Uncle Grumpy View Post
    On the forks? Yeah, I wouldn't paint the frame though.

    As for your question, is this a crime?

    Gees, it's not as if you've hacked off the cable guides and MIG welded a disc tab to it. A lot of people chuck their toys over things that can be swapped in 10 minutes with a 5mm allen key, and while we might all prefer originality, there is no crime to get an old bike on the road and getting used.

    Grumps
    I definitely meant the forks only and hopefully will be able to hunt down a Specialized Direct Drive fork. Good advice though. Thank you for your input. This all helps putting things into perspective.

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    You have a Mountain Cat just sitting around the house?! My God, now that's some serious VRC stuff that few have. I haven't seen front SE's in quite some time, nice!

    I have that same Special Ed frame btw, and the original fork too.

    Ditch the seat and look for the proper fork, you may find one or another one from the big S that might be close.

    Excellent score in my book, congrats.
    Good friction shifting is getting hard to find nowadays....

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    Quote Originally Posted by unicrown junkie View Post
    You have a Mountain Cat just sitting around the house?! My God, now that's some serious VRC stuff that few have. I haven't seen front SE's in quite some time, nice!

    I have that same Special Ed frame btw, and the original fork too.

    Ditch the seat and look for the proper fork, you may find one or another one from the big S that might be close.

    Excellent score in my book, congrats.
    The MC I bought on CL for $20 and thought I could use the parts someday. Thing was beat up but no dents. Thatís about the depth of stuff I have laying around other than a 1988 Rockhopper Comp in good condition but frame is too small and my sonís Bridgestone MB3 that he has out grown. The MB3 is very clean. When I have time Iím selling it to get him a bigger bike.
    The SE brakes were on the bike when I bought it - front and rear. They seem to work well but Iím not a fan of how they look.

    Who is big S? Iíd like to see if he has what Iím looking for.

    Thanks for the comments.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bp101 View Post

    Who is big S? Iíd like to see if he has what Iím looking for.
    The big S, also know as Special Ed, or "We're all lawyer-ed up and coming to get you" or "We just bought a patent this morning, now you're out of business"
    All the gear and no idea.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mik_git View Post
    The big S, also know as Special Ed, or "We're all lawyer-ed up and coming to get you" or "We just bought a patent this morning, now you're out of business"
    Not sure what to make of this person. Sounds scary.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bp101 View Post
    Not sure what to make of this person. Sounds scary.

    haha, only if you're a small company
    All the gear and no idea.

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    update

    Made a couple changes just so I can go out and ride. Iím loving the feel of this bike.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bp101 View Post
    Made a couple changes just so I can go out and ride. Iím loving the feel of this bike.

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    Nailed the seat upgrade. The new paint on the fork looks okay, too. Nice work. That scratchy post gives me a headache, tho. And the seatclamp QR is on backwards, also aggravating my headache. Ride on!
    "May your trails be winding, lonesome, dangerous, leading to the most amazing view." - Ed Abbey
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    Nice! what are those brakes?, Pedersen SE?

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    Quote Originally Posted by rockychrysler View Post
    Nailed the seat upgrade. The new paint on the fork looks okay, too. Nice work. That scratchy post gives me a headache, tho. And the seatclamp QR is on backwards, also aggravating my headache. Ride on!
    Sorry to contribute to your headache. Thank you for pointing out the post and QR. Iím on it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jimPacNW View Post
    Nice! what are those brakes?, Pedersen SE?
    Thanks. The brakes are Pedersen SEís. The previous owner put those on. They seem to work fairly well. Iím not crazy about how they look.

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    I have your fork n stuff.

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    I think it's pretty sweet!...I'd rock that bike all day!

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    Quote Originally Posted by jimbowho View Post
    I have your fork n stuff.
    What sort of digits am I looking at?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kopiaw View Post
    I think it's pretty sweet!...I'd rock that bike all day!
    Thanks. Iím rockin it as often as i can.

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    OP - put some feelers and ask this site. They move LOTS of vintage stuff...
    https://www.facebook.com/groups/579498092116390/
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cayenne_Pepa View Post
    OP - put some feelers and ask this site. They move LOTS of vintage stuff...
    https://www.facebook.com/groups/579498092116390/
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    Thanks - I just send a request to join the FB group.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bp101 View Post
    What sort of digits am I looking at?
    I don't know, just pm with an offer if you wish.

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    B. Got your PM, the offer is fair. Tried to PM but subscription fails what ever that means. PM with cell, ill text pics. Funny thing about vintage stuff, we can't get near what old things are worth but it's cool to help someone else out that's excited about a new project. Guess that's for another thread.

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    Another fork question

    For the sake of time and convenience, Iím using this 1988 Rockhopper Comp fork. Do you think there is a big enough difference between this and the original fork to pursue one?
    As you can probably tell, Iím on a limited budget.

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    That fork isn't a very good match, those were the first generation of forks for the '88 RH Comp and they bent easily under load. If you can bump up to 1990 and any other model by them you're going to be a lot closer.

    That said, excellent try and it's much better than many other choices. I have the same frame as you and if I didn't need the fork I'd send it to you for next to nothing.

    You certainly deserve serious positive rep for the effort you have put in, good thread and many thanks for keeping up the VRC banner!
    Good friction shifting is getting hard to find nowadays....

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    Quote Originally Posted by unicrown junkie View Post
    That fork isn't a very good match, those were the first generation of forks for the '88 RH Comp and they bent easily under load. If you can bump up to 1990 and any other model by them you're going to be a lot closer.

    That said, excellent try and it's much better than many other choices. I have the same frame as you and if I didn't need the fork I'd send it to you for next to nothing.

    You certainly deserve serious positive rep for the effort you have put in, good thread and many thanks for keeping up the VRC banner!
    Ok. Thatís good to know. Being new to this I had no idea how hard it is to find a fork that matches. jimbowho was kind enough to offer his fork but I feel bad having him break up his bike.

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    Take Jimbo up on his offer, now that is a nice guy! I brazed a new seat tube in mine, so I'm not quite ready to give up this frame/fork combo after all the work I did putting a new tube in.
    Good friction shifting is getting hard to find nowadays....

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