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    A Chance to Write the Bible

    I just signed a book deal with Velo Press for an account of my bicycle-related activities between 1970 and 1990. They expect a manuscript to be delivered in late spring. The editor threw the word "definitive" around after the deal was done. I had earlier rejected (through my agent, bless his heart) a deal from a different publisher that I found a little insulting.

    I figure I have one chance to tell the story of a pretty good bike adventure, and I hope they let me tell it as completely as I want to. Title is "Fat Tire Flyer." Where have I heard that? I'm not going to dignify the the "who did what" issues. I can tell you what I did and what I saw, in excruciating detail.

    I'm not the only participant in all these events, but I can't see any of the others defining that period the way I can. I have the luxury of having documented just about everything I did, through my magazine and my contributions to other publications, and by collecting everything written about us by others. I have every scrap of paper the experience generated, with one major exception. When my business relationship with Gary ended I had to leave behind the original files of the MountainBikes company, which would have been a gold mine but have long been dispersed and lost.

    Joe Breeze has his own files and could write a pretty good book about his bike adventures, but he probably won't. His would be an amazing autobiography, because Joe had incredible bike experiences before I met him that I have heard about and the rest of the world hasn't. He's a good writer, but he's not the sort who can sit down and churn out the words the way I can. I use Joe as my fact-checker and consultant in all technical matters, and you can't do any better than that. He is a major collaborator. Tom Ritchey and Gary Fisher have good stories also, but they will probably need editorial help to get them out. Hard to see those two glued to a keyboard for six weeks.

    It's up to me to do it right, because I don't see a lot of other first person accounts on the horizon. I'll try to live up to the opportunity.

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    I'm looking forward to reading it.

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    perfect thread title
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    Dah! I thought you meant Chris Chance.
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    Very cool. Can't wait to see it. I think more of this needs to be done in the next 10 years.

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    Wow! Good luck! No easy undertaking writing a book.

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    Will it be the finished version of the partial history you shared a while back? That was pretty interesting.
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    Great news!! Can I put in an order for an autographed copy?
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    Quote Originally Posted by laffeaux View Post
    Great news!! Can I put in an order for an autographed copy?
    me too!
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    Sounds like an excellent opportunity, and am certain it'll be a great read.
    Best of luck to keep that keyboard cranking.

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    I love Joe. Riding with him is pretty much one of the highlights of my life. I was so giddy to have met him and was stunned by what a nice and humble a man he is. I'm glad he's going to have a hand in this....Bible.

    Good luck, CK!

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    GOB, I think you need a bike built by JB, or designed by him

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    I tried. Didn't have the pocketbook.

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    Quote Originally Posted by girlonbike View Post
    I tried. Didn't have the pocketbook.
    How bout the one designed by JB, ya you know what I'm talking about

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    Quote Originally Posted by shawnw View Post
    How bout the one designed by JB, ya you know what I'm talking about
    no. :P

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    Sounds like this could be a cool book if you can get contributions and input from a bunch of the pioneers.
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    Quote Originally Posted by muddybuddy View Post
    Sounds like this could be a cool book if you can get contributions and input from a bunch of the pioneers.
    Who did you have in mind?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Repack Rider View Post
    Who did you have in mind?
    You should talk to that guy that helped Gary Fisher get the whole thing started. ... assuming that he's still around.
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    Awesome! As someone who types a fair bit myself? Have fun with that!

    Can't wait to read it
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    Six weeks - wow - Go for it CK - don't hold back. Very happy for you. Of course I'll order when ready.

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    I am pretty sure you can do it in 6 days.
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    CK- reserve a signed copy for me, my "brush with greatness" with you was at the Ross Race in 1987. Do you recall that race? It rained the whole weekend & I still remember your comment about the people wearing garbage bags - "Mexican Gortex" was what you called it. My wife & I still talk about that.

    Thanks for all you have done, now is your time to shine.

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    I would love a signed copy. I hope there are lots of pictures especially of some of the original Fat tire Flyers and race posters.
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    Quote Originally Posted by muddybuddy View Post
    Sounds like this could be a cool book if you can get contributions and input from a bunch of the pioneers.
    I just got a response to my email to Tom Ritchey about this. He's in South Africa, but wants to talk about it when he returns in a couple of weeks. I'm also talking to Dave Garoutte about the TrailMaster. Anybody else? Oh, Gary, but we were joined at the hip for so long that his activities are not a mystery to me.

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    A graphic novel would be cool.

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    It would be fantastic to have page copies of the Fat Tire Flyer in the appendix.

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    Congratulations on your deal! Your FTF mag was always an exciting read. i still love them and if any of the early ones come up some how i would love to have my own collection. I agree you are a perfect person to take on this task and you will get it right because you were actually there and know the players. The years have blended memories and I'm sure the task will not be easy especially since you only have several weeks. As I read though the posts here it seems to me that time is of the essence and I thought of a few names that could help your assignment, but I'm sure you may already have them on your list.

    Of course you will be in touch with the Koski's (I will PM you DK's #... I did ask him if it was OK and he said that you can call him).
    I would also think you would consider Chris Paretich a source. (a good title for him would be "Third generation Larkspur Canyon Gang, MTB-Rider/Historian/Machinist" ) and also James McClean of the "Santa Barbara Scene" (One of the first MTB reps of many different brands, one of which I refuse to mention. hmmm, Could he have been a spy? He was up here the whole time, hanging out at the Cove...Just kidding JM.) He has binders full of articles from early on and knows the story from experience.
    With that said...the other side of the the hill (Mill Valley side) had a bunch of riders also that don't really get mentioned. What they were doing, instead of Repack, was hitching up to Pantoll from the 2 am club by way of people driving to Stinson and then Bombing Lone Tree Fire Road (the road now restored to native hillside, paralleled the Dipsea trail contours for some length) to the beach just to immediately turn around and hitch back to Mill Valley and again to the beach getting several runs a day.

    There are plenty of guys out there and stories to tell...Off the top of my head...I'm getting stuck on Mark's and M's for some reason....
    Mark at Paragon, Mark at WTB, Mark of Velo Tam, Mark Witz, Matt Hebdog...... and on through the bet.
    You have your work cut out for you.
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    You gonna use Dink Bridger or John Castellano?

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    Quote Originally Posted by fos'l View Post
    It would be fantastic to have page copies of the Fat Tire Flyer in the appendix.
    I'm going through everything in my massive file cabinets as I work on the MS. Fortunately I wrote about much of what I was doing when I was doing it. The stories I wrote at the time are better than trying to dredge up a 30-year old experience. Many of the stories that ran in the FTF will be in the appendix, as well as work I did for the mainstream magazines.

    Regarding the Koskis, I said it on this site and it will appear in print that the Trailmaster was a better design than the Ritchey MountainBike, but no one at the time could match the number of bikes MountainBikes got out the door.

    In the process of composing this work, I have contacted a number of people active at the time, and I will include their thoughts when appropriate. However I am most comfortable describing events I took part in than commenting on the motives and activities of others.

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    As a long time rider I would love to hear about how things developed. Simple facts are fine, but it's the stories behind the facts that are what we all want. Lol IMHO.

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    I kind of skimmed the thread so I may have missed it but what will you do for photos? Do you only plan on using only older pics? It would be cool to add some photos from the recent SFO exhibit if they will let you.

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    wow...this is so cool...I'd like a signed copy also....and an audio book with you reading it...gotta be told with and older, wiser voice, and one thats been there so the feeling can come out.
    good luck!

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    CK,

    I'm in for a signed copy. And, if there is an audiobook, you HAVE to narrate it!

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    Quote Originally Posted by stan lee View Post
    I kind of skimmed the thread so I may have missed it but what will you do for photos? Do you only plan on using only older pics? It would be cool to add some photos from the recent SFO exhibit if they will let you.
    There are a lot of graphics available. All the original Repack race posters, Joe's drawing for the first Breezer, and lots of Wende's and my own photos. I don't plan to add any from the SFO exhibit.

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    can i be you in the movie?

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    Quote Originally Posted by den haag View Post
    can i be you in the movie?
    Tommy Chong has the part.

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    i couldn't top that. and i got a hernia the last time i moved a grand piano, anyway! cheers

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    Quote Originally Posted by den haag View Post
    i couldn't top that. and i got a hernia the last time i moved a grand piano, anyway! cheers
    haha

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    Late spring?
    When would the book be out?
    I don't know book timelines, but assume it takes a while.

    What would it take to get you to Mn for a book signing in, say Sept 2014?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Oldfatbaldguy View Post
    What would it take to get you to Mn for a book signing in, say Sept 2014?
    I'm sure the publisher has a publicity tour in mind, but my agent keeps reminding me that nothing will happen until I deliver the manuscript.

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    ha...so you got alot of work to do, sounds like alot of it is going through reams of old memories and photograhps of a time we all (that lurk here) definately daydream about....so whos gonna help with that?...what a job...VRC docs from the begining....i think it sounds to me like a joyous adventure for you, and we all get to reap the rewards of this memoir tapping...and you get some funding...everybody wins.....cannot wait.....

    are you going to keep us informed as time goes on so we arent pacing too much?
    Thanks!

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    Repack Rider: My dad was your dentist and my parents still own the Ritcheys they bought from you and Gary at the Center Avenue shop. It's funny that my family has been telling everyone the "true history" of mountain biking since the late 80's after S-word stole the glory (those in the know still give credit where credit is due). My younger brother even interviewed you in sixth grade for a report on mountain biking. I would love to find that old report of his and pass it on to you for the archives. I'm sure you have been interviewed many times, but every piece of documentation is a unique window into that period in time "we who lurk here" are so nostalgic about. Please put me down for a few signed copies of the book. I'm looking forward to its publication.

    You may remember a nice blacked-out Intense FS rig in the garage of someone who you were helping to move a year or two back. He's my neighbor and I helped get him into the sport and build his bike. After you left, he called me and said, "you'll never guess who helped move my piano!" Needless to say, it was no guess. I knew it was you. Hope to see you around town.

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    Quote Originally Posted by girlonbike View Post
    A graphic novel would be cool.

    That is an interesting idea...

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    I was young when BMX was king and MTB was no where to be found, just want to know if you have any ties there. Theres talk of some team from the area that whipped butt in Marin then but I never knew them although a guy named Jim was mentioned that I went to high school with but unsure if it's the Jim from the famous one time race of the boys from Cupertino. I was in the mix in the early/mid 70's in Cupertino with the boys from the area and raced with Dan O, Fast Fred, Nate J and the rest. If you did any BMX are you going to include that in the book and leave a note to whom they may be? I'm not leaving last names because I don't know what has happened to them.
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    I never rode BMX and there is none in the book. I delivered the MS in June, collected my advance against royalties, and now I am waiting for a host of other issues to be dealt with before the big payday.

    The editor is coming out in a couple of weeks to meet with me, Joe Breeze and Wende Cragg to select images. After that there is artwork and layout, discussions on what form the product will take, price point, publicity, and a bunch of other stuff I never thought about.

    Velo-Press promised me a booth to sign copies for the next trade show, which is depressingly far off.

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    Thanks for being the "keeper of the history key". Its hard for me to wrap my head around the amount of time you have volunteered to make shit happen. Not only from the beginning 30+ yrs ago but all thru your life including this forum to pass the news or give advice on some thing new. i know from experience that most riders are "apathetic" when asked to do something for nothing or just for the good of the sport. It's always been like that I don't expect it to change. This book you should make your own because the personal experience stories are the most intriguing. Maybe on the inside cover a nice pic of the pope JFS. Anyway I won't take you away from your task at hand , can't wait to buy,read,hear,ride,party,give thanks to people responsible for changing the world for the better

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    Quote Originally Posted by Repack Rider View Post
    I never rode BMX and there is none in the book. I delivered the MS in June, collected my advance against royalties, and now I am waiting for a host of other issues to be dealt with before the big payday.

    The editor is coming out in a couple of weeks to meet with me, Joe Breeze and Wende Cragg to select images. After that there is artwork and layout, discussions on what form the product will take, price point, publicity, and a bunch of other stuff I never thought about.

    Velo-Press promised me a booth to sign copies for the next trade show, which is depressingly far off.
    Hang in there. I feel for ya! Looking forward to your big payday, CK!

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    Can't wait to see (and own) the final product!!
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    Me too! I'm also working my way through all your posts here, you're about the most interesting poster on MTBR. Not trying to kiss your butt, just thanking you for sharing your war-stories; such an asset to this community, it's so awesome that someone with your background and experience is willing to share.
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    Bumping this back to the top, because...

    You can pre-order at a deep discount. The actual product is six months away, but maybe I can go platinum on release.

    Might be your only chance for a first edition. D@mn right I'll sign it.

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    If its out by mid September and you want to sign it at a bike club event in MN, let me know.
    I thiefed a pic of you off the intertubes and mentioned you tonight.

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    Done. Thanks!
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    me too..

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    Done. Great story and can't wait for the book to be published.

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    Just put in my pre-order.
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    Kicking this one more time because my publisher has granted me a Facebook page, with the condition that I get 25 people to "like" it. If you're on FB, even if you don't like ME, try to "like" a bunch of electrons representing my publisher.

    You can do that here.

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    Done. You'll get way more than 25 likes pretty easy I'd say.


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    I just got the galley proofs, which is not yet the final work but a copy for my comments and changes.

    Wow.

    It's better than I could have hoped for. It's going to ride the charts for sure, and might even make me more money than I lost with a bike company and a magazine. You guys won't be able to put it down, you'll keep turning pages back to check out the graphics, which are off the charts. I have the goods, and I used them.

    P.S. As part of the research project, i scanned the first article ever to appear on the new bikes into a .pdf. It's the Spring 1978 issue of Co-Evolution Quarterly. You can see it here:

    http://sonic.net/~ckelly/Seekay/ckim...o_Evo_1978.pdf

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    Right on Charlie. I dig your enthusiasm!
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    thanks....I came looking for something to read with my dinner...great read.

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    The first availability of my book will be at Interbike. I will be signing the first copies to be circulated at the Breezer booth. Joe Breeze and Gary Fisher have agreed to take part. If you will be at the bike show, that will probably be your best chance to get all three of us to sign. Haven't asked Tom Ritchey yet, maybe he'll join us.

    Here's the press release. I don't write this stuff, I have people for that: Meet Mountain Biking Legends Charlie Kelly, Joe Breeze, and Gary Fisher at Interbike! | Fat Tire Flyer

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    It's always nice to have people.
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    I have people that have people for that.
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    Cool. I'll swing by the booth on Thursday.

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    Hey Repack, can I send someone over to grab one of your signed copies? I'm an industry outsider and not coming to Interbike but would love a signed copy. I will see if some beer can encourage one of my Moots employed friends to secure this scripture for me.

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    I have people, 3 of them to be exact. Some people would insist I call them "my kids" but I prefer "my people".
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    When I write a press release, it's a lot more entertaining.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sbsbiker View Post
    Hey Repack, can I send someone over to grab one of your signed copies? I'm an industry outsider and not coming to Interbike but would love a signed copy. I will see if some beer can encourage one of my Moots employed friends to secure this scripture for me.
    I will have 200 copies. I don't want to bring any home.

    If your friend doesn't score, we can do something by mail.

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    I prepayed for a copy, and won't be at the dog and pony show this year.

    It'd make my day to have as many luminaries sign it as can be located.

    Happy to pay for postage if you can make that happen CK!

    Enjoy the show, and thanks for all you guys did!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Repack Rider View Post
    When I write a press release, it's a lot more entertaining.
    Can't wait to get my copy. Enjoyed reflecting on 1992 and the Dead, reading that. Vegas and Big Mac shows were totally awesome that year, holy ****. My best rock 'n' roll war story is meeting the band backstage after the show at Mile High, 1990 maybe? My boss used to take guitar lessons from Jerry (60's). But his wife put her foot down on guitar vs. fish, so Ira never played with the Dead on stage, only rehearsals and such (I'm relating an esoteric bit of GDF history, here).

    Hope & Ira are GDF all the way, started both Exotic Aquatics and Reef Encounters -- which last I looked, are both still going concerns to this day. Ira's my inspiration, both on guitar and as an entrepreneur. Their kid was an offensive lineman for the Steelers for 10 years, amazing folks, like so many others I met on that scene BITD although it helped to have introductions as I was just a kid.

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    I saw the book for the first time four days ago at the Interbike trade show.

    Wow.

    I wrote the words and collected the images, but the rest was in the hands of Velopress. They delivered in spades. This is the most beautiful job of layout and printing I could have dreamed of. Every one of you will own this and love it.

    We had about 160 copies to sell and I was cautioned not to expect them all to be sold.

    Please. These are my people. Watch this.

    I rounded up Gary Fisher, Tom Ritchey and Joe Breeze, and the four of us sat at a table for two hours and signed every copy in the building. When the books ran out there were still dozens of bitterly disappointed people left int he cold, because the opportunity to collect those four signatures on a first edition will not come again.

    The photo of the four of us ran on the cover of the daily show publication the next morning. No caption. If you don't know these people, you wouldn't care anyway.

    Icing on the cake was the opportunity to hang out for hours and hours with Chris Chance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Repack Rider View Post
    I rounded up Gary Fisher, Tom Ritchey and Joe Breeze, and the four of us sat at a table for two hours and signed every copy in the building. When the books ran out there were still dozens of bitterly disappointed people left int he cold, because the opportunity to collect those four signatures on a first edition will not come again.
    That's pretty cool to have the 4 signatures. Certainly a unique opportunity. Thanks for that!

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    Just pre ordered it at the local book store.

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    Very nice! The shot of you guys all signing at the table was great.
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    Hope the book is selling well in pre-order. I just got mine in at amazon. Thanks for the link.

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    Quote Originally Posted by yo-Nate-y View Post
    Very nice! The shot of you guys all signing at the table was great.
    Here's the photo from the show daily. This is beyond classic. Unlikely I could get all these guys together for a photo again.

    A Chance to Write the Bible-show_daily.jpg

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    All smiling, even Tom. Nice.

    Buzz was the books sold like hotcakes! Big crowds and long lines to get their hands on them. Happy to hear that CK!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rumpfy View Post
    All smiling, even Tom. Nice.

    Buzz was the books sold like hotcakes! Big crowds and long lines to get their hands on them. Happy to hear that CK!
    I knew Gary and Joe would join me, and I really wanted Tom also. I went by his booth and asked him, and he said, leave him a copy of the book, see if it's something he wants to sign his name to.

    Didn't talk to him again to find out until I sat down to start signing, and Tom sat down with me.

    Tom hates that kind of stuff and he doesn't have to do it for anyone. I'm pretty sure nobody else on the planet could have got him to do that. Apparently he approves of my work.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Repack Rider View Post
    I knew Gary and Joe would join me, and I really wanted Tom also. I went by his booth and asked him, and he said, leave him a copy of the book, see if it's something he wants to sign his name to.

    Didn't talk to him again to find out until I sat down to start signing, and Tom sat down with me.

    Tom hates that kind of stuff and he doesn't have to do it for anyone. I'm pretty sure nobody else on the planet could have got him to do that. Apparently he approves of my work.
    The subject is compelling perhaps? I'm very glad you asked Tom. Some regulars here got a copy with all of your signatures and I'm jealous for sure. Congrats, CK!

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    CK's book

    Your Amazon.com order of "Fat Tire Flyer: Repack and the Birth of Mountain Biking" has shipped!‏

    woo hoo!!!
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    I don't normally lurk in this section but i'm glad i did. Just ordered a copy!

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    Quote Originally Posted by giantbikeboy View Post
    Your Amazon.com order of "Fat Tire Flyer: Repack and the Birth of Mountain Biking" has shipped!‏

    woo hoo!!!
    thanks...I just checked...mine is on it's way too.

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    Charlie, I saw that show daily pic and almost fell out of my chair! Good work getting everybody together. Of course, first time in fifteen years I'm not at I'bike and you get this to happen Congrats on the book. Now get out and go for a ride

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    It's a great read. My preorder from last March landed on my doorstep this afternoon, and I've been reading in it most of the time since. It has the ring of truth. I really like the way you let the detailed account of the progression of thinking in response to necessity, utility and experience that led to the first MTB's take the reader inside the history. Nice work--really very nice work. An odd convergence--the "eccentric musician" whom you helped put together his The Ghost Opera is a friend of mine.

    Thank you for a fine bit of writing.
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    My publisher has offered a .pdf of a chapter as a sample for anyone interested in seeing what it looks like. Here it is:

    https://fattireflyer.files.wordpress...review_ftf.pdf

    Also, I got a review. That didn't take long. Short version, he liked it. Long version, he used a lot of adjectives.

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    In depth article about my bike, "Breezer #2," which was on display while I signed books at Interbike with Tom Ritchey, Gary Fisher and Joe Breeze.

    IB14: Breezer #2, We Interview Joe Breeze About the Second Mountain Bike Ever Built

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    I pre-ordered this right after I read Repack's first post. I'm very excited!

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    My Christmas present.

    This looks awesome, Charlie, thank you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Repack Rider View Post
    In depth article about my bike, "Breezer #2," which was on display while I signed books at Interbike with Tom Ritchey, Gary Fisher and Joe Breeze.

    IB14: Breezer #2, We Interview Joe Breeze About the Second Mountain Bike Ever Built

    Second Breezer...finished?

    By Joe's notes, looks like your Breezer is #6.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rumpfy View Post
    Second Breezer...finished?

    By Joe's notes, looks like your Breezer is #6.
    I own Breezer #2. It has that designation for a reason, and the reason is that it was the first one to be completed after Joe's, which is called Breezer #1.

    "Breezer #6" is Wende Cragg's, the only one made smaller than the others.

    If you are trying to make a point here, what might it be?

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    I think Rumpfy mis-read Joe's scanned notes there. That page shows CK's as #7 (not #6) -- and does show Wende's as #6 -- matching apparently this alternate numbering method in which CK's is #2.

    So CK: Using this apparently more appropriate and official numbering scheme in which Joe's blue-painted bike is #1 and yours is #2... What number are are Fritz Maytag's and Otis Guy's bikes?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Repack Rider View Post
    If you are trying to make a point here, what might it be?
    Just a question for my own edification.
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    Quote Originally Posted by halaburt View Post
    I think Rumpfy mis-read Joe's scanned notes there. That page shows CK's as #7 (not #6) -- and does show Wende's as #6 -- matching apparently this alternate numbering method in which CK's is #2.

    So CK: Using this apparently more appropriate and official numbering scheme in which Joe's blue-painted bike is #1 and yours is #2... What number are are Fritz Maytag's and Otis Guy's bikes?
    I don't know, and I don't pay any attention to those bikes. If Joe Breeze and I do not collectively have enough authority to call my bike "Breezer #2," whose "authority" would be acceptable to this forum?

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    Quote Originally Posted by halaburt View Post
    I think Rumpfy mis-read Joe's scanned notes there. That page shows CK's as #7 (not #6) -- and does show Wende's as #6 -- matching apparently this alternate numbering method in which CK's is #2.

    So CK: Using this apparently more appropriate and official numbering scheme in which Joe's blue-painted bike is #1 and yours is #2... What number are are Fritz Maytag's and Otis Guy's bikes?

    Ah, now I'm seeing it. So that would make Joe's #0 (or Prototype or whatever we want to call it), Fritz #1, Otis #2...

    Ya, sorry CK, how are you getting #2 outta that?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rumpfy View Post
    Ah, now I'm seeing it. So that would make Joe's #0 (or Prototype or whatever we want to call it), Fritz #1, Otis #2...

    Ya, sorry CK, how are you getting #2 outta that?
    I trust Joe Breeze on this more than I trust you, and he calls my bike "Breezer #2." Would you like to take that up with Joe?

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    I think everyone agrees that these 10 bikes -- Joe's blue-painted one now at the Smithsonian and the 9 detailed on that scanned page that Rumpfy posted are incredibly important pieces of MTB history.

    It's because they are important that I'm curious about why the numbers by which they're (apparently) now referred to differs from what's on that sheet and what's stamped on the bikes themselves. If there is some better, more definitive and accurate number for each of these 10, it would be nice to get that recorded for posterity.

    I can understand why CK might only care about the number of HIS bike, but for those of us who will never own one, it's all we can do to study and care about details like this. Hence my question.

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