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    Can you all help ID this frame?

    21 inch Stripped Mountain Bike Frame | eBay

    He says it's probably a Giant. Going by the sign stamped on the dropout, I'd say it is. Any of you all have any idea of the model or approx year? I know....not much to go by. I figure early/mid 90's? If so, were the frames of that era quality frames? Made in US or Taiwan?

    Any help would be dynamite. Thanks!

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    Definitely a Giant. Looks like a hybrid frame (700c). Definitely a Taiwanese frame.

    Worth whatever a scrap dealer will pay for the steel. IMHO.
    Don't call it a gooseneck.

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    Fair enough. So you know, I don't think all Taiwanese man'd frames are bad. Surly and Salsa come to mind. Overpriced a bit, maybe, but still think they're great. I'm just wondering.....if the Giant up for auction is the same quality as the one I currently have (that's way too big for me.....got it free...gonna sell) then it'd be worth pursuing to me if the guy would consider coming down on the price. It'd be a project frame to add some braze-ons and whatnot and convert to alternate between 650b/700c wheels. Having said that, it would be stellar if I could know what frame/model it is.

    BTW, it is a 26" mtb according to the seller. I have had some communications with him. He doesn't know what the model is, though. Or year.

    Anyone else have any idea?

    Thank you kindly!

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    looking at the symbol on the dropout it looks like a giant, good but unexciting frames...
    That symbol was from early 90's (don't knwo if they used it in the 80's or how long into the 90's) but if its steel then it goes below all their cadex models
    could be an atx -7xx something, or iguana or sedona or...anything.

    But like that, i'd think that $60 odd is, well you'd want the whole bike!

    Or i could be way off...
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    I agree with them. For $60, you should get all the parts with that.

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    By google, I take it Cadex means carbon fiber?

    ATX makes sense. The one that's too big for me is an ATX Boulder. Not exciting, but it is a "good" bike frame. Nice'ish welds, DB cro-mo, standard stuff, but I'd be happy with something like that if it fit me. And, as big as the frame is (23.5 ETT) it's as light my smaller Surly CC frame.

    Moments later......

    I just did some google searches on the model names given.....yeah, could be any of those. Some/not all of those models had the wishbone stay at one time or another. So, I guess that mystery is really more or less solved......knowing close enough what the ebay frame is.

    Satisfaction....ahhh! Dudn't exactly mean I'm gonna buy, though...haha!

    Thanks a bunch, gentlemen!

    Yeah, I was figuring $60 is bit high especially in the condition it's in. Atleast his shipping to my zip is quite reasonable. Less than $15.

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    Quote Originally Posted by girlonbike View Post
    I agree with them. For $60, you should get all the parts with that.
    Oh, I agree. If I haven't come across something else before the auction is over, I'll see if I can get the guy to come down. It's been up for sale since August of '12. Probably not going anywhere too soon.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thook View Post
    Fair enough. So you know, I don't think all Taiwanese man'd frames are bad. Surly and Salsa come to mind. Overpriced a bit, maybe, but still think they're great. I'm just wondering.....if the Giant up for auction is the same quality as the one I currently have (that's way too big for me.....got it free...gonna sell) then it'd be worth pursuing to me if the guy would consider coming down on the price. It'd be a project frame to add some braze-ons and whatnot and convert to alternate between 650b/700c wheels. Having said that, it would be stellar if I could know what frame/model it is.

    BTW, it is a 26" mtb according to the seller. I have had some communications with him. He doesn't know what the model is, though. Or year.

    Anyone else have any idea?

    Thank you kindly!
    Having braze-ons added and painting/having it painted will cost money. You can find a quality frame with all that for the price you'll be into this once you go through the trouble of what you're planning and you aren't sure that this is a quality frame. Once you spend $50 painting that, you're behind.

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    Don't take this the wrong way but I really hope you don't get it. It's in terrible shape and it's cheap to start off with. There's a reason why nobody has bought it even with the cheap shipping.

    If just a cheap frame is what you want, just spend a couple of weeks on your local Craigslist.

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    Bikepedia is a good starting point. You know the brand and roughly what era, so start hunting around.

    I've had a quick look and to me it looks similar to a 1996 Giant Yukon. That had a monostay rear, steel, 1" head tube (the eBay ad looks like a 1" but i could be wrong). Of course the frame could have been badged up under various models with various specs and may have been used over a few years.

    Taiwanese for sure, the only thing Giant ever made in the US was sales. As you say, made in Taiwan is necessarily not a bad thing.

    If you wanted a frame to muck around with, adding braze ons or converting to a single speed, probably not a bad starting point (though 1 1/8" headtube would offer more in the way of forks, depending what you wanted to achieve). At $60 though, you'd be better off scouting the hard rubbish piles on pick up day.

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    FWIW Giant is one of the larger bike manufacturers out there. They used to make bikes for other companies until they started selling their own bikes. Similar to the current model with the chinese CF catalog bikes.

    and I wouldn't touch it with a twenty dollar bill.
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    Well, I say.....

    Definitely appreciate all the feedback. So, a US frame would be nice, but I've had a hard time locating something in my price range and that meets my criteria. Nothing suspension corrected, nothing so pretty I'd hate to cosmetically destroy to add braze-ons, I do want a 1 1/8 headtube (thought that Giant/ebay frame was...hrrrm), be able to fit some 27.5 x 2.1's or 700x38c's alternately utilizing two sets of canti bosses/removable posts (no disc wheels here), and with a 21-21.5 inch ETT at the longest so I can run drop bars.

    I seriously doubt I'll be able find any frame with canti bosses/removable posts to accomodate two different wheel sizes, but if there IS something out there please clue me. Oh....plus 3 bottle mount locations, low rider rack points mid blade of the fork, twin eyelets on the rear for fenders/rack, and downtube bosses to run barcons. I guess I could use inline adjusters, but I do like using Dura Ace cable stops with nifty lever.

    Never heard of bikepedia. And, I have been scouring CL across the lower 48. Just haven't seen a damn thing, yet.

    If you folks would be kind enough to throw some brand/model names my way for searching out, I'd be mighty grateful.

    Again, thanks!

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    bikepedia list bikes and spec from manufactures, good reference, but not perfect.
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    Quote Originally Posted by thook View Post
    Well, I say.....

    Definitely appreciate all the feedback. So, a US frame would be nice, but I've had a hard time locating something in my price range and that meets my criteria. Nothing suspension corrected, nothing so pretty I'd hate to cosmetically destroy to add braze-ons, I do want a 1 1/8 headtube (thought that Giant/ebay frame was...hrrrm), be able to fit some 27.5 x 2.1's or 700x38c's alternately utilizing two sets of canti bosses/removable posts (no disc wheels here), and with a 21-21.5 inch ETT at the longest so I can run drop bars.

    I seriously doubt I'll be able find any frame with canti bosses/removable posts to accomodate two different wheel sizes, but if there IS something out there please clue me. Oh....plus 3 bottle mount locations, low rider rack points mid blade of the fork, twin eyelets on the rear for fenders/rack, and downtube bosses to run barcons. I guess I could use inline adjusters, but I do like using Dura Ace cable stops with nifty lever.

    Never heard of bikepedia. And, I have been scouring CL across the lower 48. Just haven't seen a damn thing, yet.

    If you folks would be kind enough to throw some brand/model names my way for searching out, I'd be mighty grateful.

    Again, thanks!
    sounds like you are looking for a surly bike. Something either in the range of a karate monkey or a cross check. They come up every so often are made in asia but soundly made from good steel and are easy to modify and adapt. I would start there looking for a donor for this project.

    Alternately look for a local bike swap. Tucson's is coming up this month and it is always packed with everything from high end carbon wonder bikes to $10 steel frames.
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    The KM is disc.......I don't have any disc wheels......and is too long in the TT for me to drop bars. Even the size SM. Same for the Troll. I have a CC, but the BB is too low to run 650b mtb wheels offroad. Plus, I made the mistake of buying one size too large and am now selling it. Less than 300mi's on the frame. Pfth!

    More later!

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    Salsa Fargo. More rack mounts than a shop that specialises in rack mounts.

    Your wish list is pretty tall. A bike that is designed around 700c or 29er wheel size is going to have a very low BB if you run smaller diameter wheels, that's just the nature of frame geometries. Most bikes that have been designed the "newer" wheel standards will be disc.

    By the time you find a suitable frame, get the braze-ons brazed on and get it painted, you may as well just get some disc wheels laced up.

    The better forum here to try is "Bikepacking and Expedition". Happy to help identify old bikes and give advice on their spec but you might find more ideas from the folks over there.

    Good luck, I'd love to see whatever frankenbike touring MTB commuter weapon you build.

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    Thanks again for all the replies.

    I've had some time to cool my heels and think it over. Even my wife is encouraging me to do something different.....lol! You all are right. I'll just shoot for my "dream" bike even if it takes me little while to come up with all the money for it. Salsa Fargo it is!! Man.....they are awesome.

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