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    Call for your old race photos!

    Former (and maybe some current) NORBA/IMBA racers of the 80s and 90s,

    I was walking down memory lane, sharing some stories with fellow racers from BITD and laughing with my wife about some of the races particularly Mt Snow in the early 90s. My wife immediately adopted the term Tomechanical after hearing it announced once and applied it to every parts breakage (mine, Tomac's or anyone else's) from '91 onwards.

    As I try to locate some of mine, I'd love to see what pictures you might have from those big NORBA races as well as the Grundig and Jeep sponsored series. Late 80's early 90's - not just the "big guys" but whatever you have.

    Post 'em here for all to see ... Or send them to me

    Thanks and stay well and have a Happy New Year!
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    Something like this?
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    Exactly.
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    Where's the thread with all the old school race photos? That's a good one that already exists!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rumpfy View Post
    Where's the thread with all the old school race photos? That's a good one that already exists!
    I suspect you mean this thread

    Vintage Race Photos

    Yeah I forgot about that one. Great photos therein.

    Most seem like professional photos and are of the Pros. Great stuff but it would be nice to see some pictures taken by regular folk of the non famous as well as famous people on the track. Post them on that thread or here - doesn't matter - it would be great to see what people have stuck in envelopes and albums.

    I took a day off today and am enjoying the reminiscing.
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    Something like this?
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    A Ritchey with a Scott fork, sacrilegious!

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    Jimmy Deaton and Robbie Rupe watch from the sidelines.
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    Quote Originally Posted by shawnw View Post
    A Ritchey with a Scott fork, sacrilegious!
    Ritchey and Scott have had a relationship for years and the race team all used the forks for a year or two including Ruthie. Tom currently rides a carbon Scott mountain bike.

    Frischknecht also rode a steel Scott full suspension bike in '93 or so with Ritchey decals. A forum member has the bike.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fillet-brazed View Post
    Ritchey and Scott have had a relationship for years and the race team all used the forks for a year or two including Ruthie. Tom currently rides a carbon Scott mountain bike.

    Frischknecht also rode a steel Scott full suspension bike in '93 or so with Ritchey decals. A forum member has the bike.
    It just doesn't seem right, but's it's business. Especially when Tom and I recently passed each other on Crazy Pete trail, he was on a Scott, with a Scott jersey. I did get a double take and a big smile when he realized I was on a P21.

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    Regular folk, non pro?
    Must mean me, when I was a bit "lighter" than now:
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    Quote Originally Posted by KDXdog View Post
    Regular folk, non pro?
    Must mean me, when I was a bit "lighter" than now:
    That's what I'm talking about Willis!!!

    We have plenty of Pro photos but seeing pictures of "regular" folk at these races means it was once (and maybe still is) a "regular folk" event - even the biggest of the races. And in those days though it was competetive, the fun and camraderie was the best
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fillet-brazed View Post
    Ritchey and Scott have had a relationship for years and the race team all used the forks for a year or two including Ruthie. Tom currently rides a carbon Scott mountain bike.

    Frischknecht also rode a steel Scott full suspension bike in '93 or so with Ritchey decals. A forum member has the bike.
    This one?



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    That's Tim Rutherford wearin the Ritchey Kit .

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    Quote Originally Posted by ameybrook View Post
    This one?

    no, probably a few years older than that one. I think the Scott used a Clark-Kent designed rear suspension.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fillet-brazed View Post
    no, probably a few years older than that one. I think the Scott used a Clark-Kent designed rear suspension.
    Yup, I know the one you're talking about now. Shock was placed between the seatstay and top tube.



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    Since you showed me yours, I'll show you mine (no GoB, no Naked Crit pics )

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    All of these were taken with an inexpensive point and shoot camera. Here are a few photos of the guy who came up with the Mount Snow Naked Crit idea:

    Louie Trevino




    The guy doing the filming back then is now doing it as an idependent sports photographer in NYC - Marco Quezada. Guess he got his start way back then.

    While not a racing photo, I figured I'd throw this in too - some members of our Team:
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    This one is definitely not famous. It's me, from the 1996 Cactus Cup in AZ. I'm riding my 1993 Specialized S-Works Steel, with carbon Judys and blue Grafton cranks. Everthing else was a mix of XT/XTR. I'm wearing my NAU jersey, an original Camelbak, and an ExtrAir helmet. Oh, and some M-Frames.

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    Quote Originally Posted by djmuff View Post
    This one is definitely not famous. It's me, from the 1996 Cactus Cup in AZ. I'm riding my 1993 Specialized S-Works Steel, with carbon Judys and blue Grafton cranks. Everthing else was a mix of XT/XTR. I'm wearing my NAU jersey, an original Camelbak, and an ExtrAir helmet. Oh, and some M-Frames.

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    It's interesting to see how body position has evolved from then to now. Definitely biased for the descent now. Cool pic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fillet-brazed View Post
    It's interesting to see how body position has evolved from then to now. Definitely biased for the descent now. Cool pic.
    I remember that uphill and cross country were big while separate downhill races were a relatively new and not quite as popular among the racers - at least here in the Northeast.

    I think the prevailing attitude was
    "Hey, anyone can go fast downhill..."

    Are there separate uphill races anymore?

    After one of those "easy" NORBA downhills on which I left most of the skin of my left forearm, I bought myself a pair of arm and shin protectors. Not much but better than nothing I guess. Think of corregated cardboard covered by blue nylon and held on by elastic straps.
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    Mt Snow: yes, hill climb, slalom & XC events. Good bang for your buck back then. I think this shot was from 89 or 90: toe clips, rock ring, rigid fork on the 'ol FAT.
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    Yeah - I still had toe clips on Suntour track pedals in mid '91. Still have them. Super light!Then switched to Grafton Speed Traps when they came out.

    Rock Rings ... reminds me of Lynnwoods Spring Meltdown - saw a lot of them there as far as I remember.
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    Lynn Woods: a 15 minute spin from my house! My "home" course (didn't help me at all). Too bad they don't have races there anymore.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KDXdog View Post
    Lynn Woods: a 15 minute spin from my house! My "home" course (didn't help me at all). Too bad they don't have races there anymore.
    Was always part of my visit to relatives in Winthrop and integral to my harassment of the Merlin gang on the way up from NY and before heading back to Brooklyn.

    Too bad that there are no more races there. Came in third in one race due to inability to slow or stop. Completely blew through a set of brake pads in the pouring rain. Combo of mud/sand worked like a grinder
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    Winthrop! My kids play hockey there all the time. Too funny.

    Here's another of JT.
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    If I took the photo, I'm not in it. Here are a couple of guys talking race strategy at Mammoth around 1986 and Mike Sinyard handing Ned Overend a bottle at the national championships around 1988. Also, John Loomis passing Dave McLaughlin in the national cyclocross championship around 1988. Loomis is wearing a borrowed Arrow shirt because apparently his race jersey was in violation of something.
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    Mt Snow in the early 90s was the highlight of my year. Me and my college roomates would go up really early in the week to try and grab our favorite spot in the Carinthia camping area. We would hang out there in lawn chairs right along the course tape and drink beers and share em with racers who were inclined to partake...seemed in those days there was no shortage of guys with something broken to the point they were gonna DNF.
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    Fantastic photos everybody. I really enjoyed them. Yay!

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    Quote Originally Posted by auntesther View Post
    Mt Snow in the early 90s was the highlight of my year. Me and my college roomates would go up really early in the week to try and grab our favorite spot in the Carinthia camping area. We would hang out there in lawn chairs right along the course tape and drink beers and share em with racers who were inclined to partake...seemed in those days there was no shortage of guys with something broken to the point they were gonna DNF.
    I remember seeing you guys there.

    Yep - #1 broken part there was a rear derailleur - logs and rocks tore 'em off with regularity.

    I'm suspect there were were a few DNF'ers with "broken" parts who only wanted your beer.
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    Haystack was where the party was at. Great times at Mt. Snow every year.


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    Quote Originally Posted by ameybrook View Post
    Haystack was where the party was at. Great times at Mt. Snow every year.
    I stand corrected. Haystack it was.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CCMDoc View Post
    I remember seeing you guys there.

    Yep - #1 broken part there was a rear derailleur - logs and rocks tore 'em off with regularity.

    I'm suspect there were were a few DNF'ers with "broken" parts who only wanted your beer.
    You may be right.

    one year I think the #2 breakage was Spec M2 frames. I think I must have seen 5-6 in maybe '93.
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    Mt Snow Dual Slalom

    Great thread!

    Here's a small pic of me doing the slalom on an '89 Wicked.

    I'll have to dig out the old slides and pictures from Mt Snow and the Ross Race.

    To get rid of the pre race jitters, I'd cut pieces of yellow tape to decorate my helmet - the classic Bell V1 Pro.

    In 88 I did the Eddy Van Halen stripes to my helmet. Unfortunately I was one of those hauled off the mountain. I was unprepared for a waterbar & went over the bars at high speed. Three broken fingers, broken wrist, bruised ribs, & mild concussion made for a long ride home.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Retro Dude View Post
    Great thread!

    Here's a small pic of me doing the slalom on an '89 Wicked.

    I'll have to dig out the old slides and pictures from Mt Snow and the Ross Race.

    To get rid of the pre race jitters, I'd cut pieces of yellow tape to decorate my helmet - the classic Bell V1 Pro.

    In 88 I did the Eddy Van Halen stripes to my helmet. Unfortunately I was one of those hauled off the mountain. I was unprepared for a waterbar & went over the bars at high speed. Three broken fingers, broken wrist, bruised ribs, & mild concussion made for a long ride home.

    Great memories though.
    Dig out those slide and picttures - taht's what this thread's about!

    That water bar - I am sure most thought WTF!!! after going down.

    The problem was that it was nearly invisible at speed or at the very least, unimpressive in it's ability to swallow a front wheel.

    Good photo - looking forward to the others.
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    At the NORBA races, Snow Summit, Big Bear, CA. May 1990


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    Whiskeytown 1985

    Some pictures of The 1985 Team Outback and their bikes along with a starting line photo and a smiling Jacquie Phelan!
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    In the photo above Gavin Chilcott is in the specialized jersey, Max Jones wears Ritchey colors and it looks like Roy Rivers in the Suntour jersey.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Repack Rider View Post
    In the photo above Gavin Chilcott is in the specialized jersey, Max Jones wears Ritchey colors and it looks like Roy Rivers in the Suntour jersey.
    I believe you are correct...I was just
    proud to have my riders lining up with such a bunch!

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    Quote Originally Posted by CCMDoc View Post
    Former (and maybe some current) NORBA/IMBA racers of the 80s and 90s,

    As I try to locate some of mine, I'd love to see what pictures you might have from those big NORBA races as well as the Grundig and Jeep sponsored series. Late 80's early 90's - not just the "big guys" but whatever you have.
    My first race, my first race photo. 1992 Cactus Cup near Pinnacle Peak north of Scottsdale, AZ.
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    Quote Originally Posted by flyingcloud View Post
    I believe you are correct...I was just
    proud to have my riders lining up with such a bunch!
    And if I am not mistaken, the lad in the light green jersey with the red swoosh and a hairnet helmet is a young George Theobald!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Repack Rider View Post
    In the photo above Gavin Chilcott is in the specialized jersey, Max Jones wears Ritchey colors and it looks like Roy Rivers in the Suntour jersey.
    Who's the gorilla in the white over coat?
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    Wow!

    Nice pile of photos from a time before the famous were.

    Nice commentary, CK - it's almost like you've done that before.
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    Shanty Creek in Bellair,Mich.
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    ^^^^
    Susan DeMattei and Ruthie Matthes

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    96 Shanty Creek

    Julie Furtado after whoopin upsomeass.
    Susan Dematei again.Wasn't she just too cute?
    A couple autograph cards.
    Remember Kovachi Wheels?
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    gorilla in the white over coat

    Quote Originally Posted by jeff View Post
    Who's the gorilla in the white over coat?
    I would love to know that...somebody out there does!

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    I love this forum. I still learn new things. Like when did Sara Ballantyne ride for Univega? I'm guessing this is after her stint with Specialized.

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    Quote Originally Posted by flyingcloud View Post
    I would love to know that...somebody out there does!
    This guy?
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    JT Mt snow start 92:
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    Start line of the first Mammoth Kamikaze in 1985. I'm wearing the Velo Club Tamalpais warmup.
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