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    Bunch of unmarked 90's era bike stuff - ID help?

    My sister has tasked me with selling a garage sale find she had many years ago. Looking at it, I figured it'd probably be worth more parted out. Especially since the Rock Shox fork was seized and it looked to need a lot of work if selling as a complete bike. Disassembling bikes is easy, so I went that route, hoping I'd find some obscured markings to help ID some stuff. I wasn't as lucky as I'd hoped.

    First, the frame. It's aluminum. That's about all I can tell. The only markings stamped on the frame itself are the serial number markings on the BB. No head tube badge. There's a sticker on the chainstay that says "Sachs Silent Chain" but for all I know, that didn't go with the frame since everything else was either removed or never placed in the first place.

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    The derailleur hanger had some markings on it, that I found once I got the derailleur off and wiped off some grime. Not sure if Everest relates to the manufacturer of the frame, or simply the company who made the hanger.

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    Next, the crankset. It's a Kooka crankset, obviously. Not sure if model or year can be determined (or if Kooka made more than one crankset - I was too young to remember at this point).

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    Next, the brakes. They're blue ano CNC aluminum cantis, and that's about all I know. No markings.

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    That brake arch/cable hanger looks aftermarket to me. Again, no marks I can find.

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    And finally, this anti-chainsuck device. No idea who made this. It clamps on the chainstays just behind the BB, and the steps in it are for the chainrings.

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    Looks like the marks on the dropout indicate insertion, and those weren't inserted far enough.

    The only thing I can offer is I've talked myself out of it being a mid 90's Jamis Dakota AL (I had one).
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    I don't know what it is, but I bet it was the **** in 1994.

    I was wrenching in a shop then so most of that stuff looks familiar, but I can't recall names.
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    The 'whats it worth' thread is probably a better place to post this. This forum generally gets a bit sour when mined for info so that someone else can profit. Though I do appreciate the straight forward intentions.
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    Here's a few links to help you out: MOMBAT:Ringle Components History

    BikePro.com / Buyer's Guide / Grafton Cantilever Brakes - Bicycle Parts at discount prices / the Buyer's Guide / Bicycle Parts at their finest! / Professional Bicycle Source / Bike Pro

    The rear brakes look like Grafton Mag lites with a Ringle MoJo hanger and Kool Stop pads, then there's the Ringle anti chain suck device. . .
    there was so much anondized, CNC stuff back then. . . . . .
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    I'm betting on somewhere European for the frame....

    My Curtis T1 came with an Everest hanger (it's from Britain).

    Seat post clamp looks like Odyssey Svelte.



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    Thanks for the suggestions. I am not asking what anything is worth. Just what it is. Most of this is in rough shape, anyway (I'm sure you can see a good bit of faded blue ano), so it's not going to be worth a ton, I know that. Lots of moving bits are stiff and at minimum need cleaned and lubed. It was in a shed most of the past 10 years, and almost never ridden.

    For all I know, the frame could be some kind of custom build, but because of the lack of markings, meh.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NateHawk View Post

    And finally, this anti-chainsuck device. No idea who made this. It clamps on the chainstays just behind the BB, and the steps in it are for the chainrings.

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    This was made by Ringle and is call a "anti chain suck device" just like you posted

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    The Kookas are early mid nineties b/c the BCD is 74/110. Microdrive came out in '97? I've never seen any Kookas that didn't look just like yours.

    I recognize the brakes but can't put a name to them.

    Fork is a mag 21 I believe.

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    Microdrive was introduced by Suntour in 1991. 94/56 BCD and I still use them and my 110/74 XT's from 89 also.

    Those Kookas sure looked great, were the rage in the 92-95 era but since they were CNC'd instead of forged, the taper wore out in about ten minutes after taking the crank off and on. Yes, am exaggerating a bit, but not much. They also broke/cracked easily.

    Ringle's ACSD left much to be desired, worked half-ass but was better than nothing.



    Quote Originally Posted by dru View Post
    The Kookas are early mid nineties b/c the BCD is 74/110. Microdrive came out in '97? I've never seen any Kookas that didn't look just like yours.

    I recognize the brakes but can't put a name to them.

    Fork is a mag 21 I believe.

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    Thanks, did not know that. All my old stuff was the big S and all had 110/74. Was S late to the game for microdrive?

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    Not really that late since they adopted the Shimano version of Microdrive with the intro of their own cranks circa 96 or so?

    I ride mostly Big S too, their earlier cranks from 86-89 were way better even though they are 110/74. I have a pair of the later 94/58 version from 96 and you should see the amount of cracks in the arms!



    Quote Originally Posted by dru View Post
    Thanks, did not know that. All my old stuff was the big S and all had 110/74. Was S late to the game for microdrive?

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    Good friction shifting is getting hard to find nowadays....

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    I ride mostly Big S too, their earlier cranks from 86-89 were way better even though they are 110/74. I have a pair of the later 94/58 version from 96 and you should see the amount of cracks in the arms!
    I've broken a few sets of LX back in the day and the 1st gen. Race face I beam once. All were caused by poor technique dropping to flat concrete from about 3'; I'm not a finesse guy. :-(

    I still ride the warranty replacement Turbine LPs I got back in 1998. I stripped the blue off them with Drano.

    I'm old so my drops are even more pathetic now!

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    Quote Originally Posted by scatterbrained View Post
    The rear brakes look like Grafton Mag lites
    ....

    Nope, what Ameybrook said. Nice brakes, but make sure you get the sleeves off the canti posts or they will be useless.
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    shimano's micro drive came in 93 i believe..
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    Frame looks Taiwanese.
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    Brazilian? Maybe a Caloi (?)

    Serial number and wonky dropout say production frame...not custom.



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    That seat binder looks like a white industries one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by girlonbike View Post
    That seat binder looks like a white industries one.
    Those have popped up a few times around here. Mass produce and sold under a few names, Odyssey being the one they're most associated with.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NateHawk View Post

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    Well it's not a GT...

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    That sounds about right, they were caught of guard by Suntour introducing Microdrive two years before, and in true Shimano fashion they had to do a 58bcd small ring so the two makers couldn't share rings right off the shelf, so to speak.

    The thing that sucks about Suntours 20t small ring is that the teeth can bend fairly easily under a "bad" shift, whether Shimano had the problem I don't know since I never used their setup.

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    shimano's micro drive came in 93 i believe..
    Good friction shifting is getting hard to find nowadays....

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