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    Bike shoot down

    I wish.. i have got 2 vintage bikes (though one is technically not vintage, yr 2000 but made to the same specs as a 96, an Ibis mojo.) i use extensively. The Fat Chance was my only ride for six mo and now i ride both bikes everywhere. Both w/same tires, same wheels. Both steel. One has a susp fork, the other has a steel fork.
    They ride completely different. The Ibis feels way faster and i ride at least one gear taller.
    Took th FC wicked to a technical slow singletrack the other day. I will take now the Ibis but from what i experienced so far the California bike feels better the faster it goes; then it's pure fun, quick and easy to change directions.
    Geometry is different w/ the hbar sitting high on the Ibis, low on the FC. headtubes were always tall on Ibis geo and short on FC. BB is lower on the Ibis as well.. it is corrected for 63mm of travel. I am riding it w/ a 80mm bomber but set soft, sags at least 1/2 in on it's travel.
    Cornering is different on each bike. The FC is quicker up front but needs more of hbar input to change direction while keeping weight on the back wheel as much as possible. The Ibis is the opposite: i weight the front and use lots of body english moving my body between saddle and bar. It feels nervous on steep slippery trails while the FC feels at home though.
    The Ibis accelerates faster and motors w/ much better ease. It's a faster go everywhere machine and feels a little crazy on steep technical trails.
    The older bike has cantilevers which modulate so much better than the Vees on the hardtail... i would like to find V brakes that modulate as well. Maybe i don't know how to set up Vees but the on off feeling is boring. It has integrated xt (1998) levers and avid arch rivals.
    Shifting is done w/ xt thumbshifters on the FC and rapid fire onn the Mojo.. both work.
    Last edited by colker1; 09-20-2013 at 11:37 AM.
    want: Ibis ti handlebar. suntour 31.8 front derr. bottom pull

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    Shoot me down

    want: Ibis ti handlebar. suntour 31.8 front derr. bottom pull

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    I have some Avid Ultimate v brakes on my Ti Fat that work so great. I definitely prefer it over my awful juicy which I have XT brakes to replace it with when I get around to it. I also have some XTR v brakes that also work wonderfully.

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    Quote Originally Posted by girlonbike View Post
    I have some Avid Ultimate v brakes on my Ti Fat that work so great. I definitely prefer it over my awful juicy which I have XT brakes to replace it with when I get around to it. I also have some XTR v brakes that also work wonderfully.
    The original ultimate w/ the link? I don't know if i blame the xt levers w/ too much spring, avid brakes or myself for not knowing how to set them up.
    want: Ibis ti handlebar. suntour 31.8 front derr. bottom pull

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    Have you tried reversing the washers? I set mine up wide. My XTR's and my Ultimates both have the best modulation of any brakes I've used.
    Zip ties? Not on my bike!

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    Not to pick nits, but I'm guessing you mean shoot out?

    Let's see pics.

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    No surprise the California bike is better.

    I've long said Wickeds are not that great (though a Yo feels pretty good with my limited time on one).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fillet-brazed View Post
    Not to pick nits, but I'm guessing you mean shoot out?

    Let's see pics.
    LOL.... awesome!

    you are right.. it needs pictures.
    want: Ibis ti handlebar. suntour 31.8 front derr. bottom pull

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rumpfy View Post
    No surprise the California bike is better.

    I've long said Wickeds are not that great (though a Yo feels pretty good with my limited time on one).
    The Ibis is fast but keeps it comfortable. A Yo will probably feel stiffer.. never rode one. I think Salsas will be closer to the Ibis, maybe Bontragers.
    want: Ibis ti handlebar. suntour 31.8 front derr. bottom pull

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    shoot out
    want: Ibis ti handlebar. suntour 31.8 front derr. bottom pull

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    Quote Originally Posted by colker1 View Post
    I think Salsas will be closer to the Ibis
    To confuse things, I think Salsa's feel like short chainstayed Fats - Ibis-like short stays.
    Last edited by mainlyfats; 09-20-2013 at 09:10 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mainlyfats View Post
    To confuse things, I think Salsa's feel like short chainstayed Fats with Ibis-like short stays.
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    Zip ties? Not on my bike!

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    scanners was such a good movie.

    I'm facing a similar bike comparison-
    95 Turner Burner FS with coil rear and bushing style pivots
    vs
    08 Ventana El Saltamontes FS with RP23 rear and bearing style pivots

    both have same fork Manitou Minute 140mm, both bikes look similar too and are same frame size XL.
    I haven't ridden the Turner yet but I ride the Ventana almost daily.

    Anyone have experience with Burners here?

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