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    Big Sandy Race - March 30 - vintage category

    Fantastic point-to-point race with net elevation loss. They just added a vintage category today (with a nice discount!). Maybe some of you guys can make it.

    From their FB post:
    "Vintage Only Discount Special
    Race your 1993 or earlier mountain bike and save $20.00
    Join Dan Himes, He will be on his 1989 Mountain Goat Whiskytown Racer.

    Enter Code: Klunker when you register
    » Register Now - The Big Sandy"

    The vintage class is the River course (15 miles). The long course (23 miles) has the really great Squaw Leap loop, which I'd prefer to do if I drive all the way down there from Folsom. If the vintage class votes to do the long course, I think the promoter is open to it.


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    Net elevation loss! My favorite 3 words! Nice. The area should be nice. Looks like the foothills. Anybody done this ride?

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    Never done a race before, but I might just do something really stupid and enter. 1993 Miyata Elevation 2000.

    EDIT: I entered
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    Aw man...I wish I had known about this sooner! Three hour drive isn't totally out of control...but I'd need more lead time to coordinate. In laws in town this w/e keeps me close to home.

    Are they going to do a vintage class every year? I think its encouraging to see more of this kinda thing. Vintage class racing is fuuuuun.
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    when you guys gonna have vintage rides out here on east coast or midwest?

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    Go ahead and organize it.
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    when you guys gonna have vintage rides out here on east coast or midwest?
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    Quote Originally Posted by zygote2k View Post
    when you guys gonna have vintage rides out here on east coast or midwest?
    I think the easiest way is to find an established (yearly) race that has good consistent attendance and talk to the promoters. One that remembers that racing is fun and doesn't take themselves too seriously.
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    Be prepared for the pre '96 requirement. Like the Sandy race is pre '93.

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    Quote Originally Posted by girlonbike View Post
    Be prepared for the pre '96 requirement. Like the Sandy race is pre '93.
    since no one here does a vintage category, if I were the one to promote it, then I would make it 1997 and earlier to be Vintage. 1997 seems to be the last good year that many people agree upon...

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    Quote Originally Posted by zygote2k View Post
    since no one here does a vintage category, if I were the one to promote it, then I would make it 1997 and earlier to be Vintage. 1997 seems to be the last good year that many people agree upon...
    Personally I think any bike with v-brakes is too new and full suspension is pushing it. Big technology gap between early 90's bikes and late 90's bikes.
    However, if you're the guy getting it on the bill, you can push it however you want. Whatever gets the people signing up.
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    Suspension?

    You mean like big tires and drop bars.

    Suspension.
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    Or shock-absorbing one time use seatposts.
    Somec is like the digital Zunow
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    Squaw leap, we camp and hunt Quail there, had no idea they had Mtn. bike races. While hiking through the woods I always thought it would be a great place to ride. How funny!
    On my radar for next year for sure.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zygote2k View Post
    since no one here does a vintage category, if I were the one to promote it, then I would make it 1997 and earlier to be Vintage. 1997 seems to be the last good year that many people agree upon...
    The very reason I haven't posted my 97 full rigid Breezes Jet Stream. I know the line has to be laid somewhere... It would be a blast to race it again (especially with a slight downward slope!).
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    See you there Danec99. I'll be on an MB-1 singlespeed. I still might "get lost" and do the Squaw Leap loop, ensuring DFL in the vintage category. Save some beer for me

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    Nice surprise at the end. Look for me on that climb Empty Beer.
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    Yeah... when I did this race a few years ago, that bump wasn't as bad as I thought it would be. I was on SS and hiked up a lot of it, but it wasn't that long. And once you get to the top, it's a really fun descent to the beeeeeeer.

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    I was pretty impressed you did that on the ss. Take lots of pictures puuuleeaseee? I love the Sierras. Looks like maybe the foothills?

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    I can get to this trail from my house without touching pavement (so of course it's my favorite trail), it's a great trail. I'll be riding a mid 1990's Bontrager. This will be my 4th xc race ever, my 3rd Big Sandy and my 1st on the long course. I'll bring my own beer because it seems likely the kegs will be empty when I arrive.

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    This is a great course, but it's almost all singletrack with not a lot of room to pass. You get one slow guy who wont move over and it gets ugly real quick. Tire buzzing. Bike tag. Name calling. Dangerous passing moves that you may miss work for, if it goes wrong. I think I'll make the 7 hour drive.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vader View Post
    This is a great course, but it's almost all singletrack with not a lot of room to pass. You get one slow guy who wont move over and it gets ugly real quick. Tire buzzing. Bike tag. Name calling. Dangerous passing moves that you may miss work for, if it goes wrong. I think I'll make the 7 hour drive.
    Was wondering about that.
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    Empty beer, I have a MB3-comp with a original parts (no wheels) if you really want it and you'll use it it yours. Let me know and I'll figure out how to get it to you. My MB 1 is beyond salvage.

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    It was a great day out there! Only 3 of us showed up for the Vintage Class, which is understandable given the last minute addition of the category. So all 3 of us podium'd

    We decided to race the 15 mile "sport/beginner" part of the course and not do the challenging pro/expert 8 mile Squaw Leap loop before the 15 miles of roller coaster descent to Millerton Lake, which was a good call. The section of course we did was bumpier than I remembered, with a solid 2K of climbing.

    After starting at the very back of the pack, I actually ended up passing everyone but a one 14 year old phenom, who I caught on that last brutal "bump", but his gears (and youth, and fitness and 110 pounds soaking wet...) kept him ahead of me and I finished about 10 seconds behind him. I'm a complete sandbagger in sport, but racing Vintage didn't affect anyone's podiums. (But it was nice to whip a lot of strong sport riders and their modern, carbon, comfy XC race bikes )
    Big Sandy Race - March 30 - vintage category-7985_10200874080476906_377721519_n.jpg

    The local guy, Dan on his 1989 Mountain Goat Whiskeytown Racer:
    Big Sandy Race - March 30 - vintage category-216732_10200874092357203_1429516561_n.jpg

    Dane arrived after the awards ceremony, so we gave him his own reward
    Big Sandy Race - March 30 - vintage category-46875_373842326063815_892995800_n.jpg

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    Cool! Looks like a great area.
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    Right on guys! You got the ball rollin', hopefully it grows. Lot of California vintage guys and those willing to travel to the right venue.
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    Holy crap. that was tough. After having a mechanical, and some lack of preparation on my part I lost a whole lot of time waiting for the sweep and the tubes. With a fresh tube and bonus Tecate I was rolling again and I got to enjoy the scenery of the San Joaquin river basin basically all by myself. The trail was a series of rollers; some nice wooded areas, some exposed to the unseasonably high temps (86 degrees avg. or so) with lots of rocks and cow poop thrown in to keep you working. I hungout with the Moto Guy for a bit as he did the final sweeps and even passed someone as I hit the final climb of the day, that was tough. I was drained, hot and dead as I rolled over the last hill and saw the lake and tents of the finish line. Drunken shouts would greet me as I crested the corners and wold pop back into view of the crowd, who had long ago finished and was enjoying the Tioga-Sequioa brew. As I closed in the noise was louder and rounding the to the finish line was an uproar. As I crossed the line my other two Vintage class guys were awaiting me (they thought I had died out there) and "Empty Beer" gave me Full Beer and life was good. A tough course for me but a fun day. Empty Beer is the man! He rode a SS on this beast, and I could have used a few more gears.
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    Way to tough it out, Dane!

    I just saw this sequence of your finish

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    Seriously. Good for you guys! Thanks for sharing. It looks beautiful out there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by danec99 View Post
    Holy crap. that was tough. After having a mechanical, and some lack of preparation on my part I lost a whole lot of time waiting for the sweep and the tubes. With a fresh tube and bonus Tecate I was rolling again and I got to enjoy the scenery of the San Joaquin river basin basically all by myself. The trail was a series of rollers; some nice wooded areas, some exposed to the unseasonably high temps (86 degrees avg. or so) with lots of rocks and cow poop thrown in to keep you working. I hungout with the Moto Guy for a bit as he did the final sweeps and even passed someone as I hit the final climb of the day, that was tough. I was drained, hot and dead as I rolled over the last hill and saw the lake and tents of the finish line. Drunken shouts would greet me as I crested the corners and wold pop back into view of the crowd, who had long ago finished and was enjoying the Tioga-Sequioa brew. As I closed in the noise was louder and rounding the to the finish line was an uproar. As I crossed the line my other two Vintage class guys were awaiting me (they thought I had died out there) and "Empty Beer" gave me Full Beer and life was good. A tough course for me but a fun day. Empty Beer is the man! He rode a SS on this beast, and I could have used a few more gears.
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    Maybe the Keyesville Crew should put this on the calendar for next year?

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    Bump. Race is March 23 this year. The 15 mile vintage category has a nice, lazy 10:30am start... so you have plenty of time to drive from far away to make it to the starting line.

    Big Sandy Race 2014!

    Donutnational - I'm 98% sure I'll be there. I'll confirm the week of. If there aren't many vintage entries, I'll likely ride the long course on a bike with gears and front suspension (I want to hit the Squaw Leap loop).

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    I'm back after a hiatus from riding (amongst many other things). I'm riding vintage as usual. This years choice is a 90's S-Works Team:
    Big Sandy Race - March 30 - vintage category-s-works.jpg

    I was out yesterday cutting out a down tree. The trail is in good condition. The wildflowers are holding, but without rain not for much longer:
    Big Sandy Race - March 30 - vintage category-big_sandy_trail_work_2015.jpg

    I can't blame you for wanting to do the longer course. I'm partial to the shorter course. And this year my youngest daughter is riding. So want to be around to cheer her on.

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