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    Alright already, the Official Brave thread.

    Darn it all! I told myself I wouldn't be the one to start this thread yet here I am. While they're not everyones cuppa joe their contribution to MTB history and their very existance can be denied no longer. I'll admit I've always had a fondness for them and at one point have even owned four at once . I'm now down to one and still enjoy taking it out on a semi-annual basis. The only pics I currently have were during the building process. A few things have been changed but you get the idea.

    So here goes...
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    Well I am sure everyone has seen mine by now. This is my second. I bought my first used and the guy had a bonty or Tange rigid fork on it. In my ingnorance I took it off and replaced it with an early rock shox. Still the bike was great. One of the best climbers I ever owned. I took this one out yesterday for its maiden, "screw around and get a feel for it" ride and it is just like I remembered. Very fast, nimble.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sandmangts
    Well I am sure everyone has seen mine by now. This is my second. I bought my first used and the guy had a bonty or Tange rigid fork on it. In my ingnorance I took it off and replaced it with an early rock shox. Still the bike was great. One of the best climbers I ever owned. I took this one out yesterday for its maiden, "screw around and get a feel for it" ride and it is just like I remembered. Very fast, nimble.

    Take the cam out and check to see if the arms are the part causing the friction. I would guess it's the fact that your cable is not pulling the cam in line with the rollers. It was probably designed around U brakes. Those old roller cams are about 7-8 years older than the XTR.

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    Here's the MOMBAT link: http://www.mombat.org/Brave.htm

    I'll get some pics in of mine soon too!
    All of these seem to be Teesdale frames, anyone here have a Grove-built one?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fillet-brazed
    Take the cam out and check to see if the arms are the part causing the friction. I would guess it's the fact that your cable is not pulling the cam in line with the rollers. It was probably designed around U brakes. Those old roller cams are about 7-8 years older than the XTR.
    Thanks for the advise. This project has been a learing experience to say the least. Mr. T said he built this one with rollers in mind, in fact he is the one who sold me the rollers and the frame as a package deal. It is definitely the right arm that is sticking. The other moves freely. I think a little more post sanding and it will be good. I do have a NOS XT u-brake though just in case.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sandmangts
    Thanks for the advise. This project has been a learing experience to say the least. Mr. T said he built this one with rollers in mind, in fact he is the one who sold me the rollers and the frame as a package deal. It is definitely the right arm that is sticking. The other moves freely. I think a little more post sanding and it will be good. I do have a NOS XT u-brake though just in case.
    maybe it was a different version RC he set that cable guide for, because what's on there doesn't line up very well and will negatively effect the brake.

    Might want to ask him which version. Maybe it was the WTB.

    Are you sanding to make the post shorter or make the outside surface smoother? Does it bind when you tighten the bolt?

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    Mount the rollers themselves behind the brake arm closer to the frame vs. the way you have it now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ckevlar
    Mount the rollers themselves behind the brake arm closer to the frame vs. the way you have it now.

    yeah, that would probably straighten it out pretty good if you can do that with that brake. You can with a WTB brake:

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    They can. At worse you may have to buy some button head bolts to replace the standard bolts, depending on the clearance between the bolt heads and the frame or fork.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fillet-brazed
    yeah, that would probably straighten it out pretty good if you can do that with that brake. You can with a WTB brake:

    Oh my, oh my! Can a bike get any nicer? Mo pics please?
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    Quote Originally Posted by ckevlar
    Mount the rollers themselves behind the brake arm closer to the frame vs. the way you have it now.
    Thats a great idea. The posts surely need a bit more sanding to make them smooth but looking at the Pics you can see the angle of the cable is not ideal. I will try it. I just wanted to make sure the bike was built in time for K'ville!
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    I'm sure I've posted this one on some other thread somewhere, but what the hey. This one is now owned by another member...
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    Sadly this is long gone, but it was fun while it lasted.
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    It's been just over two years since this thread got any love. I guess it's due for some more.

    Just picked this up today at the local bicycle co-op. $25.
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    I wish I got mine that cheap. Nice pickup.

    I've had this one up and running for a little while now. 93 Grove built Spirit

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    Need: McMahon brake for roller cam mounts, Mountain Goat fork.

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    Worth it for the 3dv fd cable guide!
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    Quote Originally Posted by muddybuddy View Post
    I've had this one up and running for a little while now. 93 Grove built Spirit

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    Nice looking bike! I didn't realize that they came in a non-EC version. I prefer that look - the EC seems kind of cobbled together to me.
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    From what I've been able to find out. The Spirit was basically a Grove Woods Bike style frame but with more standard geometry. Not a whole lot of info out there about them though.
    Need: McMahon brake for roller cam mounts, Mountain Goat fork.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rumpfy View Post
    Worth it for the 3dv fd cable guide!
    Indeed!

    Now I need to research this thing, try to find out what year, and who built it. Haven't looked for a serial number yet. It's going to have to wait until after this weekend... and the 24 Hours in the Old Pueblo.

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    New TET Brave for me

    Just picked this one up but it has been repainted and is a good job, original owner said he had it resprayed because it was too flashy for him. I sold my TET Racer a few years back and have been waiting for one of these to come up on CL in my size and for a good price. It has a Thomson post, MAG series fork, White Industries Ti BB, Salsa post clamp QR, XT V-brakes, thumbies, pedals, crankset, front/rear derailleur and hub, Ritchey stem and headset, Machine Tech Zero Flex levers and Answer Hyper Lite bars. Not cleaned up yet so that will come later as will losing the newer non era parts for closer to or exact matching parts.

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    What color was "too flashy?" I like that one. Nice parts.

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    Thanks. Not sure of the original color, the guy was at a pool party across the street from his home when I picked it up so not much talking to him while he was in party mode.
    Too many bikes, and just enough time to ride them.

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    1991 Racer

    I was living in Monrovia at the time so bought this one directly from Doug. At one point it had the full Grafton group on it...still has the McMahon titanium fork.

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    I was talking to my (car) mechanic the other day and we started talking about bikes. He has a 29er he wanted to show me and when we walked around the garage to the shed where he keeps it, I saw this Teesdale built Brave Spirit propped against the wall. Turns out a guy who used to do paint for Grove Innovations and, apparently, Brave, traded it for some auto work done by my mechanic's dad. Surprisingly, underneath all that dust the paint is in pretty good shape.

    Until now, I had never seen another TET built Brave Spirit (I have one that I bought from a member here a while ago). Imagine my surprise to learn that all these years there was another one just a few miles away from me in a town of about 7000.


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    Quote Originally Posted by muddybuddy View Post
    I've had this one up and running for a little while now. 93 Grove built Spirit

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    Here's an update on this bike. I bought the frame from MuddyBuddy and have slowly been building it out. It's finally done. The build is a bit more conservative than it was - no more green.
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    Ok so who is the Brave expert? I just picked one up and would like to learn more about it.

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