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    Sweet Mantis in NY

    This just came to my attention. RC thought that I may know something about it. I didn't recall painting it. My smoke runs, as a rule if there are any, more in line with the tubes and not in the tiger stripe way. But every job is custom and may have been a special request. I don't think there was a "Paint by KB" sticker on it. Maybe it was removed?
    Anyway it looks great and from what I can tell the components are dated correctly.

    Mountain Goat had paint jobs like this. It could of been a Cycle Art job that was done outside of a Mantis order. I think this because RC didn't recall the bike and the stickers don't match in color.

    Update: The owner didn't want me to post the picture so I removed it.
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    Wow, this picture really sucks. Mountain Goat smoke:


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    Cool, and I now remember painting that bike. My smoke jobs aren't washed out. I figured out how to keep it dark, my secret.

    I just can't remember his name now. He never a bike for long and all were custom made. It seamed he liked to just get them made and turn them over ASAP. He was not much of a rider and generally a pain in the royal A**. But his money was good. I built 2 bikes for him.

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    Came across this gem.

    Here is a great looking bike.
    僕の違う。僕は写真トッテナイ
    Look at the baby blue. Who's bike is this.
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    That's one sweet bike, and one that is clearly too big for the owner but which is - funny enough - my size.

    Sell it to meeeeeeeee.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Thylacine
    That's one sweet bike, and one that is clearly too big for the owner but which is - funny enough - my size.

    Sell it to meeeeeeeee.

    It should fit it's current owner nicely. And Im pretty sure it wont be sold anytime soon. It sure is a neat one though.

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    I've not seen red speedmasters before!

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    It's not baby blue, and the brakes aren't just red.

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    Quote Originally Posted by flyingsuperpetis
    For those of you that requested em, here they are. I'll delete this post within 24 hours, cause such a big pile of graphics will likely choke the thread, & needlessly take up a bunch of space on mtbr's server. In the mean time, here it is...

    Wow, it's so shiny... Dude, wouldn't it be sweet if you got that Jen Green who makes the custom headbadges to fab you a crazy Preying Mantis headbadge?! With the bugged-out big eyes! Yeah... That'd be crazy.

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    Who has a Mantis Overland?

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    Nobody Around Here

    Quote Originally Posted by geckocycles
    Who has a Mantis Overland?
    (I think)
    But I can think of 2 or 3 people that want one.

    I've only seen 1 photo of one. Granted I live far, far away from where any Overlands may be.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shayne
    (I think)
    But I can think of 2 or 3 people that want one.

    I've only seen 1 photo of one. Granted I live far, far away from where any Overlands may be.
    I had one for a year while my Sherpa was getting a new front triangle. RC was kind enough to give me it to ride. He is such a cool guy. It was very stiff. I was only 165 at the time. The TT was just a bit much for me.

    I forgot about it and haven't seen or heard of them since. At least you have heard of them.

    Do you have a picture?

    It is so F'in cold here. 10 deg. I have just about had it here. It is beautiful but what good is that if you can't go out and enjoy it. Everything is frozen rock hard. Heating fuel went up 60% /gal plus the usage is up. Lease on the shop when up 30%. Everything is up except my wages which haven't gone up even 20% in 28 years.
    OOPS wrong forum!. Just had to vent. LOL I'm better now. Thanks for listening.

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    Damn you guys!

    I've been itching to do a homage XCR-EC in 7005 and Ti for ages now, and everytime one of you bastids posts to this thread, I get a reminder in my inbox just how much I'd love to do one!

    Can't....press......unsubscribe.....must......resi st.......
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    Quote Originally Posted by Thylacine
    Damn you guys!

    I've been itching to do a homage XCR-EC in 7005 and Ti for ages now, and everytime one of you bastids posts to this thread, I get a reminder in my inbox just how much I'd love to do one!

    Can't....press......unsubscribe.....must......resi st.......
    I know what you mean...I keep remembering I need to send Shayne a bunch of pics and info....soon Shayne soon.

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    OK, time for some new (old) stuff

    here are some old Mantis spec flyer's...I think you guys will like.

    the Sherpa:



    the Overland:



    and the wonderful XCR:

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    Mantis- pro floater 1991 on E-bay

    hey all just saw this on e-bay:
    http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...MakeTrack=true
    sure wish I had the money she a beauty and mine was stolen from me back in 93 S#20427 in "Super Blue" (just in case)
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    Quote Originally Posted by befoot
    hey all just saw this on e-bay:
    http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...MakeTrack=true
    sure wish I had the money she a beauty and mine was stolen from me back in 93 S#20427 in "Super Blue" (just in case)
    That seller is out of touch with reality.
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    A Bit

    I gave him a pretty good ballpark a few years ago when it was offered for sale on MTBR.

    Inflation hasn't changed that much
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    Quote Originally Posted by befoot
    here are some old Mantis spec flyer's...I think you guys will like.


    and the wonderful XCR:


    72º head angle and 2.5in rake fork.... hmmmm... interesting. i didn't even know there were 2.5in rake 26in forks.. let alone on 72º head angle.. very interesting.
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    great stuff. I never knew the XCR was once an all steel bike.

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    Interesting R.C. story about the first Valkyrie on p32 of this month's MBA.

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    Quote Originally Posted by takenomorimonster
    Here is a great looking bike.
    僕の違う。僕は写真トッテナイ
    Look at the baby blue. Who's bike is this.
    For sure this frame is a big part of my inspiration for my current Crazy Project



    Ps: if anybody has contact with Richard, please tell him that Scott taylor Dye a few weeks back and that I have family and friends Info if he like to contact them.

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    Ok kids here's something you don't see everyday


    that's right it's Mantis coffee....from one of Richard's B-day rides
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    Mantis Arrives in the UK

    Fresh in to the UK via Germany... serial S22231. How can I tell whether it's a Redline or an original Mantis??

    Going to try for the classic MBA build up first, natch!

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    Quote Originally Posted by mrkawasaki
    Fresh in to the UK via Germany... serial S22231. How can I tell whether it's a Redline or an original Mantis??

    Going to try for the classic MBA build up first, natch!

    Mr K

    Man the MBA pic is the one that I fell in love with. It took me 3 or 4 years to be able to afford a Pro Floater after that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by befoot
    here are some old Mantis spec flyer's...I think you guys will like.

    the Sherpa:



    the Overland:



    and the wonderful XCR:

    sorry the photos disappeared....I'll try and find them and repost them
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    Valkyrie Decals

    Hello All,

    Wanted to thank everyone for all their posts, and help, as I have learned much, but have failed to reply.

    Also wanted to share with you a document I used to get some Valkyrie decals made up. Thanks to Shayne of course for his help with the finer details.

    If any one has any comments, corrections, or additional information, I would be grateful.

    Thanks again, and hope this may help some people.

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    Very nice stuff. Thanks!

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    Quote Originally Posted by bushpig
    Very nice stuff. Thanks!
    Post yours punk.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rumpfy
    Post yours punk.
    Yeah, so we can have a contest to guess how tall is Bushpig.

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    Decal Help

    Hi Again,

    I am looking for the name of the material some of the Valkyrie decals were made of. It is a reflective/refractive(?), mirrored, mylar looking something or other. I asked a few decal makers, and they were unable to help. If anyone has any thoughts or information, I would be very grateful.

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    Mantis Pro Floater proto 1991

    Refound these MBA photos of a Mantis Pro Floater prototype in 1991 - I'm guessing the skinny tubes mean it was fabricated from steel?

    Does it predate the Santa Cruz Tazmon/Heckler style rear triangle?

    RC and Mantis must have been overflowing with ideas and production issues around that period - how many own label models and licensed ones must have come out during that 18 month period....?!

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    Quote Originally Posted by howman66
    Hi Again,

    I am looking for the name of the material some of the Valkyrie decals were made of. It is a reflective/refractive(?), mirrored, mylar looking something or other. I asked a few decal makers, and they were unable to help. If anyone has any thoughts or information, I would be very grateful.

    Many thanks,
    Howard

    The Mantis decals were just cut vinyl. You can go to any signwriter and get them redone, including that 'hologram' style silver.

    Yeah that proto with the Marzo shock is steel. It would've lasted about a month before that driveside 'chainstay' popped.

    As much as I love Mantis' - and yes I used to own a Pro-Flo - the laws of physics were somewhat ignored on those old beauties.
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    Beautiful Hindsight

    Interested to know which laws in particular - if someone was to make a ProFlo today, how would it be different??

    Mr K

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    Quote Originally Posted by mrkawasaki
    Interested to know which laws in particular - if someone was to make a ProFlo today, how would it be different??

    Mr K

    The force of the chain attempting to pull the rear axle towards the bottom bracket.

    Nobody would bother trying to recreate a Pro-Flo today. Suspension technology has come so far, it would be a Pro-Flo in name only.

    Having said that, if Richard wanted to pretend he's Scot Nichol, I know of a great Industrial Designer.
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    Right direction

    So who, if anyone, had it right or nearly right back in 1991??

    Does the ProFlo work best when your not pedalling then (haven't finished building mine to know :-) )??

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    Quote Originally Posted by mrkawasaki
    So who, if anyone, had it right or nearly right back in 1991??

    Does the ProFlo work best when your not pedalling then (haven't finished building mine to know :-) )??

    Mr K

    Didn't I just see you become a Mantis owner recently?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rumpfy
    Didn't I just see you become a Mantis owner recently?

    I was watching that too. Thought it went for a reasonable price. Maybe even very reasonable.

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    Quote Originally Posted by djmuff
    I was watching that too. Thought it went for a reasonable price. Maybe even very reasonable.
    I agree, it was a decent price.
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    Rc

    Oooh... I've post-outed! Interesting to know you think the price was reasonable - I can't be sure this side of the pond. Maybe the high reserve put people off initially?

    The XCR will be my second proper Mantis after the Pro Floater (registered in this thread). Seems I'm coming out of the closet on RC-related designs, having had two Aliens (an 89 and the square SP) in the cellar for the last couple of years. I'm fairly sure we didn't get anu XCRs imported into the UK at that time, although the Nishiki version did make it across. Definitely after a Valkyrie too, especially after stroking SSMike's fine example in Point Reyes last October.

    Being an e-stay holds much of the appeal - ignoring whether they did everything claimed - I love the period they represent, remembering well the fuss they created and, when I race mine now, they still draw favourable comments!

    Hanker after a Mammoth RC201, a Brave Warrior; Tamarac Elevated and a Talon Elite - all in 19/20" - should you come across them...

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    Quote Originally Posted by mrkawasaki
    Definitely after a Valkyrie too, especially after stroking SSMike's fine example in Point Reyes last October.
    I trust you're keen to BushPigs then.
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    Holy Appreciation Batman!

    That frame sold for ~$135 with some parts on it in 2003
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ohm
    I do have an unused yellow Mantis XCR EC 18 or 20 incher lying, including a Bontrager bolted chrome fork. Spindle is titanium Action Tec (?) put in place by Cambria bicycle outfitters. A pair of nearly unused black Graftons is lying in a box, and I don't know if I should build it up or not.

    It's beatiful of course but I have other nice frames too. One next to unused Kestrel 17-18 incher in red circa 95-96 (model???) is waiting for me. I do have some interresting looking one of a kind prototype Brave in steel from the early 90s - u-brakes and a really slooping top tube which should be fun to ride.

    I'm going to take a photo of my Mantis in order to put it here, How much could I expect to get for the frame/fork/brake combo?

    Btw; did Mantis make tandems, as that would be v e r y nice to own? Our steel Burley from that era rides nicely with upgraded components but we are thinking of buing something better - thats something the Mantis could help us fund

    Thanks for reading my first post here!
    Be very careful that this is not a for sale post...strictly not allowed in the forums.

    Take a look at the sticky at the top of this forum as well as the general forum rules so you don't get yourself in trouble.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ohm
    I do have an unused yellow Mantis XCR EC 18 or 20 incher lying, including a Bontrager bolted chrome fork. Spindle is titanium Action Tec (?) put in place by Cambria bicycle outfitters. A pair of nearly unused black Graftons is lying in a box, and I don't know if I should build it up or not.

    It's beatiful of course but I have other nice frames too. One next to unused Kestrel 17-18 incher in red circa 95-96 (model???) is waiting for me. I do have some interresting looking one of a kind prototype Brave in steel from the early 90s - u-brakes and a really slooping top tube which should be fun to ride.

    I'm going to take a photo of my Mantis in order to put it here, How much could I expect to get for the frame/fork/brake combo?

    Btw; did Mantis make tandems, as that would be v e r y nice to own? Our steel Burley from that era rides nicely with upgraded components but we are thinking of buing something better - thats something the Mantis could help us fund

    Thanks for reading my first post here!
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    Rumpfy; Thanks for telling me that, I should have been more careful.

    I'll show the pic though as soon as possible - those XCR:s surely are beatiful.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ohm
    Rumpfy; Thanks for telling me that, I should have been more careful.

    I'll show the pic though as soon as possible - those XCR:s surely are beatiful.
    No worries.

    Pictures we like.
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    Valkyrie Decals Part Deux

    Hello All,

    Maybe this with help some one...

    I re-did the Valkyrie decals, the dimensions for which I believe are for the earlier year frames. I also added the seat-tube badge, if you will.

    The font is Busorama, which can be downloaded for free, but may be refered to as Omnibus in the drop down menu.

    Thanks to Shyane, once again for his help. I am trying to get some decals printed up again, as the first set was not quite right. One day, this project will finish.

    Best wishes to everyone,
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    just got my friends Valkyrie up and running after being neglected for a very long time.
    btw...howman66 sorry to say but the font in your attachment is not the right one
    see here: http://mombat.org/1989_Mantis_Valkyrie.htm


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    Nice! Got the original fork for it?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rumpfy
    Nice! Got the original fork for it?
    No Rumpfy, I don't think he has the original fork...and thats a bummer because the bumpers in the fork pictured fell apart like dirt when I cleaned it had to come up with some bumpers to make it work. he was thinking of sell it but I think I talked him out of it. he, Richard and I are old friends and rode together all time....in fact I wont let him sell it

    hey...know anywhere we can find a old fork with a 1"steerer ?

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    Man, great thread, what a flood of memories.

    I spent my high school years riding with RC and the crew down in Cali, and was a certifiable Mantis nut. Got a used Valkyie with snakeskin paint (ala doile). The early runs on those had small dia stays, and broke pretty quick. RC replaced the stays with the next dia. up and painted it what he called 'team green'. Like a Kermit green with light metallic. At some point I had a red/chrome Flying V, and polished/chrome ProFloater. These also had breakage issues at the drive side swing arm by the pivot plate. They were beefed up more or less continuously.. the first revision being the addition of the gusset.

    The wait for a Mantis was off the charts. Some kid bought the company off RC and it went belly up pretty quick there after. He tried to refine the PF a bit, but didn't have what RC brought to the table.

    Too bad RC left the builder world. Man he was doing some cool stuff , and way ahead of his time.

    No too many non-elevated XCR's here. Really a pretty bike. And then Fisher had their version.. the name escapes me.

    I'll try to get some scans up out of 'my secret stash'.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Schmitty

    No too many non-elevated XCR's here. Really a pretty bike. And then Fisher had their version.. the name escapes me.

    I'll try to get some scans up out of 'my secret stash'.

    -Schmitty-
    The Fisher was the CR-7.

    When I was at the Shimano museum over the Christmas holidays, I got access to a back room in which they had an apparently new (albeit with shop-wear) XCR - fillet brazed steel only. They curator was pretty proud of the bike - he figured the NOS Deerhead group was boss. I almost cried.

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    Yeah the 'rain deore' stuff is absolutely bomber. Ther CR7 (thank you) was pretty much the apex of Fisher imo.

    RC had a small two man shop, yet cranked out some really innovative stuff... and rode *a ton*. Wonder why we don't see that today. Somwehere I have a pic of a baby hauler he built, and what do you know, it had a smal front wheel and roll cage/basket seat for the kid up front. You see that quite a bit now for kid transporters.. kid is up front where you can see them.. safer.

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    Here's a some pics of my friend Bob with his 24" Overland and the bike on the right is a fillet brazed XCR






    that's Bob out in front....and the (Bob) behind him now has both bikes.
    sorry I did not get better pics ....now their back in Cali

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    Quote Originally Posted by Schmitty
    Man, great thread, what a flood of memories.
    I spent my high school years riding with RC and the crew down in Cali,
    -Schmitty-
    Schmitty...do we know each other? this is Billy I rode a black XCR with colorful little foot prints all over it....PM me. I will be riding with Richard and Eddie this weekend in the 24 Hours of the Old Pueblo I can tell him Hi for you if you would like.

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    Quote Originally Posted by befoot
    Here's a some pics of my friend Bob with his 24" Overland and the bike on the right is a fillet brazed XCR
    Cool, would very appreciate to see some close ups, please.

    Quote Originally Posted by befoot
    just got my friends Valkyrie up and running after being neglected for a very long time.
    btw...howman66 sorry to say but the font in your attachment is not the right one
    see here: http://mombat.org/1989_Mantis_Valkyrie.htm


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    XCR and Pro Flo - Spring Stirrings

    Signs of life on these slow burn projects...

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    Nice teaser of the gray FRO too.

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    Mantis Is Back (in Italy!!!!)

    Just to keep the tread still alive.
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    Oh man.....I love Valkyries. Like a Quadangle for bigger kids.
    Somec is like the digital Zunow
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    i like the geometry numbers on mantis.
    loong top tubes coupled w/ steep head angle, laidback seat and horiz. level top tubes.
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    What I've found!!!

    It seems that a great number of Mantis is overseas in Italy...
    One of three prototipe of XCR all in aluminum... in Finale Ligure...

    The second one (red, 21") is still in Italy, anyone has some news of the last-one?
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    I was just getting ready to start on my Mantis resto, and I was wondering if they ever anodized any of the aluminum frames. I was planning on having Cycleart repaint it but ano would look so cool but only if it would be "correct".
    Need: McMahon brake for roller cam mounts, Mountain Goat fork.

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    Quote Originally Posted by muddybuddy
    I was just getting ready to start on my Mantis resto, and I was wondering if they ever anodized any of the aluminum frames. I was planning on having Cycleart repaint it but ano would look so cool but only if it would be "correct".

    No, I don't think Richard ever did any ano frames...polish yes
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rumpfy
    Nice! Got the original fork for it?
    Rumpfy...we did find the original fork
    but sadly he did sell it...but it was to my pal Bob,
    so that make seven or eight Mantis for Bob
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    Critical Racing

    I was trying to get my Pro Flo build sorted and had some questions regarding the Critical components. First, what year did Critical become the "official" parts supplier for Mantis? and second what years were these stems available? The red one is mine, the silver one which I'm assuming is older was posted on another thread by someone else.
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    They were owned by the same parent company

    After Richard sold the company...so 1995+
    Don't forget Critical brakes and Joe's derailleurs for your build
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    Quote Originally Posted by muddybuddy
    I was just getting ready to start on my Mantis resto, and I was wondering if they ever anodized any of the aluminum frames. I was planning on having Cycleart repaint it but ano would look so cool but only if it would be "correct".
    If you decide to go with paint, remember to ask for paint that chips really easily so that it will be a true Mantis.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shayne
    After Richard sold the company...so 1995+
    Don't forget Critical brakes and Joe's derailleurs for your build
    Well that sucks. both too new for my frame. Any ideas on vintage for the two stems?

    The Critical brakes would be cool, but I have a set of So Cal made brakes that will work OK.
    Need: McMahon brake for roller cam mounts, Mountain Goat fork.

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    OK, New here, Hey there BILLY!!!

    New to this Forum, but have loved reading everyone's Mantis experiences!
    Here are some pics of my Pro-Floater.
    Maguro hydraulic brakes
    King Headset
    Rock Shox Judy with White springs installed
    Grafton Joy Stix Cranks with a Titanium Spindle (thanks to a machinist buddy I used to ride with)
    btw, Yogi & BooBoo guided me into lots of crashes, but it was a blast!

    Next post will have show my other Mantis, my one of a kind Valkyrie X-Frame.
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    We wait for your X frame!!

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    Here's my RC Prototype Valkyrie X-Frame

    Bought this right out from under RC's ass after I found out that it was his last ride on it, before starting to test ride his 'NEW' full suspension bike that he was thinking of calling the 'Pro-Floater'. I was out riding with my buddy Billy in Chino Hills when we caught site of RC, so Billy on his XCR & me on my Trek 950 joined up and finished the ride with him. When I heard that Richard was going to put this one to pasture, I begged him to let me buy it.

    It was Richard's test project, trying to negate the sluggishness caused by the first gen Rock Shox and he succeeded! It got even more amazing to ride a year later when I swapped out the original RS for the 'New' Rock Shox Mag21. Got it painted at some point by Cycle Art. btw, my buddy made me a Ti Spindle for this one too. Anyway, here is my Valkyrie with it's pierced top tube! Only one RC ever built.
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    Quote Originally Posted by befoot
    No, I don't think Richard ever did any ano frames...polish yes
    Hey Billy, I still remember you kicking a rock into Joe's new powder coated XCR, cause he didn't want to scratch it and was riding like a wuss! No surprise, the rest of that ride up on Wilson became a wild ride, I must have crashed a half dozen times after that first rock chip!

    Can you figure out who I am? You certainly should remember my Valkyrie!

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    Quote Originally Posted by mrkawasaki
    Refound these MBA photos of a Mantis Pro Floater prototype in 1991 - I'm guessing the skinny tubes mean it was fabricated from steel?

    Mr K
    Richard used Chromoly on a lot of his prototypes. It gave him the ability to weld it up, go out and ride it, then cut/grind away the welds so he could tweak head tube angles etc. and re-weld. My Valkyrie X-Frame is Chromoly because it was a prototype frame and experimental, although I think most (if not all) of the X-Frames were Chromoly anyway.
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    That Valkyrie is great--thanks for sharing it! "Pets or meat" haha! Classic scene.
    Somec is like the digital Zunow
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    Quote Originally Posted by yo-Nate-y
    That Valkyrie is great--thanks for sharing it! "Pets or meat" haha! Classic scene.
    Yeah, Jay and "Big" Bill at Bike Beat, "Pets or Meat" and ridin' my Mantis, good times.
    btw, the "Ride Fast Take Chances" sticker came from them too and "befoot" from this forum is the one that coined the phrase. I put that same message on every one of my snowboards too!

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    Seriously cool Valkyrie!

    Glad you found the forum and thanks for sharing.
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    Yep. I'm digging that bike!

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    Chino Hills was a nice blast from the past too. I grew up riding San Timoteo Canyon and Hulda Crooks!
    Somec is like the digital Zunow
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    Quote Originally Posted by Graelock
    Hey Billy, I still remember you kicking a rock into Joe's new powder coated XCR, cause he didn't want to scratch it and was riding like a wuss! No surprise, the rest of that ride up on Wilson became a wild ride, I must have crashed a half dozen times after that first rock chip!

    Can you figure out who I am? You certainly should remember my Valkyrie!
    Graelock that's not fair....you know I hit my head real hard (a few times)
    so I just got off the phone with Richard....he was no help

    " I still remember you kicking a rock into Joe's new powder coated XCR"
    it was dirt with some rocks in it.....and no I don't remember that ether

    but I do remember that Valkyrie....spent many a mile chasing that bike
    good to see she is still in service...

    I'm so sorry, I should remember who this is....but I get the "Big fail"
    (funny, because I kind of remember that ride)
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    Yeah that's hot. Wish I had all my BikeBeat shirts still... Frank Sez and all that.

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    Tee shirts? enjoy
    this one Richard did ...how a Mantis is made
    <a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/30775528@N05/5226835793/" title="109 by befoot, on Flickr"><img src="http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5163/5226835793_844f2b40c4.jpg" width="375" height="500" alt="109" /></a>
    a couple of old ones
    <a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/30775528@N05/5226832947/" title="114 by befoot, on Flickr"><img src="http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5243/5226832947_9f03efd357.jpg" width="375" height="500" alt="114" /></a>
    one that Kenny did....(front and back its falling apart)
    <a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/30775528@N05/5226834583/" title="111 by befoot, on Flickr"><img src="http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5281/5226834583_4cbf722fbf.jpg" width="500" height="375" alt="111" /></a>

    <a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/30775528@N05/5226834033/" title="112 by befoot, on Flickr"><img src="http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5249/5226834033_79645ca496.jpg" width="500" height="375" alt="112" /></a>

    <a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/30775528@N05/5227430090/" title="110 by befoot, on Flickr"><img src="http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5088/5227430090_fd14944a04.jpg" width="375" height="500" alt="110" /></a>
    and this one was after Richard sold Mantis (new owners shirt)
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    and a couple for Schmitty (sorry everyone...O/T)
    <a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/30775528@N05/5226831359/" title="117 by befoot, on Flickr"><img src="http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5246/5226831359_ec2c763485.jpg" width="375" height="500" alt="117" /></a>

    <a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/30775528@N05/5226832289/" title="115 by befoot, on Flickr"><img src="http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5166/5226832289_e66fa5a55f.jpg" width="500" height="375" alt="115" /></a>

    <a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/30775528@N05/5227426678/" title="116 by befoot, on Flickr"><img src="http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5008/5227426678_dc06b57cda.jpg" width="500" height="375" alt="116" /></a>
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    I have one of those Mantis hieroglyphics t-shirts.
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    Hah! Good stuff.

    Anyone know of any Revolutions still around? The Bike Beat house brand? I posted a pick of one a while back...cool bikes.

    I remember those guys had a habit of putting 'no d**kheads' stickers on clients bikes that were in for repairs.

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    Really Old Stuff

    Haven't seen anything quite this old on the thread. Early custom Mantis Sherpa built for off-road touring and drop bar cross-country exploration. Haven't ridden this in over 20 years. Shown with and without NeedleWorks panniers.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Graelock
    Bought this right out from under RC's ass after I found out that it was his last ride on it, before starting to test ride his 'NEW' full suspension bike that he was thinking of calling the 'Pro-Floater'. I was out riding with my buddy Billy in Chino Hills when we caught site of RC, so Billy on his XCR & me on my Trek 950 joined up and finished the ride with him. When I heard that Richard was going to put this one to pasture, I begged him to let me buy it.

    It was Richard's test project, trying to negate the sluggishness caused by the first gen Rock Shox and he succeeded! It got even more amazing to ride a year later when I swapped out the original RS for the 'New' Rock Shox Mag21. Got it painted at some point by Cycle Art. btw, my buddy made me a Ti Spindle for this one too. Anyway, here is my Valkyrie with it's pierced top tube! Only one RC ever built.


    Holy crap this thing is pretty freaking radical. I love the seatstay shape and chainstay shape, the pierced toptube is cool too. Very very nice.

    Will

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    I'm kind of wondering how much I should say about this one (it's not mine)
    lets just say it belongs here

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    <a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/30775528@N05/5228379978/" title="IMAG0016 by befoot, on Flickr"><img src="http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5127/5228379978_bc7dc20938.jpg" width="500" height="299" alt="IMAG0016" /></a>

    here's mine

    <a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/30775528@N05/4156318570/" title="Picture 008 by befoot, on Flickr"><img src="http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2543/4156318570_93bd9c4da9.jpg" width="500" height="375" alt="Picture 008" /></a>

    <a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/30775528@N05/4155556003/" title="Picture 007 by befoot, on Flickr"><img src="http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2642/4155556003_f4973cf469.jpg" width="500" height="375" alt="Picture 007" /></a>

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    Quote Originally Posted by mrw333
    Haven't seen anything quite this old on the thread. Early custom Mantis Sherpa built for off-road touring and drop bar cross-country exploration. Haven't ridden this in over 20 years. Shown with and without NeedleWorks panniers.

    That thing is beautiful! What a sweet tour set up!
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    What's with that triple? Is that for a midget up front and would you want a midget as a pilot?

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    Quote Originally Posted by pinguwin
    What's with that triple? Is that for a midget up front and would you want a midget as a pilot?
    Richard built the triple for his friend Bob.
    Bob has two sons one of which has William Disease, so he built it so Bob could steer from the middle and keep watch on his son...it's very cool

    so just wondering....do you have a problem with midgets?
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    That triple is stunning. Any close ups of the steering mechanism?
    Just a regular guy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ~martini~
    That triple is stunning. Any close ups of the steering mechanism?
    how this....
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    Wow, cool thread.

    Here are some pics I just took of my XCR that I ordered from Richard in 1984.

    TriCross tires, 1st generation Answer Manitu fork with aftermarket Ti kit, Ti front spokes, Ibis stem, WTB bars, American Classic hubs and skewers and some shifter adapters that I made myself.
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    Just have to say the Mantis thread is killing it. Everyone who has shared a bike over the last week, thanks. They are all amazing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Boy named SSue
    Just have to say the Mantis thread is killing it. Everyone who has shared a bike over the last week, thanks. They are all amazing.

    Yeah, that red Mantis Sherpa up there is awesome!!!


    modifier:
    question did the top and bottom tube have some repairs done?
    I had a small crack in the down tube up near the head tube.
    Mark Grayson/NorthStar cycles (Richards ex-partner in Mantis early days)
    fix it for me by way of a guest.


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    Quote Originally Posted by befoot
    Yeah, that red Mantis Sherpa up there is awesome!!!


    modifier:
    question did the top and bottom tube have some repairs done?
    I had a small crack in the down tube up near the head tube.
    Mark Grayson/NorthStar cycles (Richards ex-partner in Mantis early days)
    fix it for me by way of a guest.


    Cheers
    Yes it was cracked at the headtube/downtube. I sent it back to Richard and he installed the gussets and polished out the frame. It used to be light yellow.

    I road it for a few more years and it is creaking again so I think it has cracked again under the gusset. No signs outside.

    Not a big deal. I don't ride it any more. Just a nice piece of history
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    Hey everybody....I sent Richard a link to this thread, here's his response:

    "Saw you were on the MTBR site. I guess I should join up and answer a few posts.
    What a wonderful thing, to see my children in loving hands.
    HA! R"

    "I have an email you can give out to anyone who may need a bike question answered"
    So I don't want to post it, but if you have a question PM me and I can give it to you

    Cheers all


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