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    Cool-blue Rhythm 2006 Keyesville Vintage Mountain Bike Race Is Upon Us!

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    MARCH 17, 18 &19!

    It's back and it's better than ever! The second annual Keyesville Classic Mountain Bike Race. This year is going to be far bigger, and far better with many more activities than last year’s event.

    Here is the link to last years Keyesville MTBR thread: Keyesville Afterglow!!

    RACE EVENT HISTORY:


    This world-class event returns again to its race venue at the historic Keyesville Mining Area for its EIGHTTEENTH year in a row!!! Because of this long history, the Keyesville Race was granted "Classic" status in 1995 by the National Off-Road Bicycle Association becoming only one of 19 events nationwide to be awarded this prestigious title and named 21st out of 25 on the worlds best mountain bike race courses in 1996. Additionally, we were recognized in the Top Three races in the United States in 2000!

    As far as i know this is the only race promoter in the country promoting vintage bikes at this time. Show your support. His name is Jim and he's pretty much done everything I’ve asked of him. Super cool guy!


    VINTAGE RACING:


    Remember the old days when you showed up to a race and there was no questioning whether or not you were doing all of the events? You showed up with one bike and you did them without question. Uphill, Downhill, Cross Country, and trials all done on the same bike without whining! That old mentality is returning to Keyesville. Every entry into the vintage racing is for the Downhill and Cross Country. The vintage guys are even getting a $15 break because the promoter is so excited about these old bikes coming to his event. The two races will only be $50 rather than $65.

    Last year we only had a show but while sitting around looking at bikes we got a little bummed that the race was going on right next to us. This year we will be racing! Those old bikes of yours were designed to be hammered. I don’t care if you’re out of shape and only want to stroll around with a group of friends on course. I don’t care if this is the first race you've ever done. Remember....No Whining! Not only are the bikes going to be old school but we are going to have that same hard core mentality that the first mountain bikers had! damn I miss those days!

    Heck, the cross country is only 8 miles. also, every entry to the event is for cross country and downhill. don’t worry about the huge full suspension rigs out there on the DH. We'll have a separate start for us. Were going to show all those tinker bell cross country guys that down hilling can be done on hard tail and rigid bikes too!


    STRENGTH IN NUMBERS:


    It's looking like the Vintage class for cross country is going to be the largest cross country class out of all the categories! We are actually having two different classes for vintage racing to keep it fair. Obviously a 10 year old Fat Chance will be a lot faster than early 80's Mountain Goat Deluxe.


    RACE CATAGORIES:


    There will be two categories:

    Bikes that are 10-19 years old

    Bikes that are 20 years old or older. (special props for bikes in this class )


    BIKE POLICE:


    As a general rule it would be nice to have the bike pretty much all period correct. It just wouldn't be right to an 1981 Ritchey with suspension or index shifting. That being said nobody's going to get on your case. We just want participation.

    I'm thinking it's cool to use modern grips, saddles, and tires. I'm unsure about pedals. do you guys think it should be cool to use clipless pedals? I might have trouble re-training my brain for platform pedals after all these years on clipless but i'll do what the community thinks is best in this regard. Platforms and construction boots are fine by me


    EXTRA ACTIVITIES:


    The camping in this area is GORGEOUS and to top it off it's free! All of the vintage guys will all be camped together in the same giant and very quiet open field surrounded by tree's and big mountains. Our camp is also directly along side the cross country course. Three days with great people and great bikes (with a little debauchery) is going to make this very memorable.

    Other than top notch riding you will have the Kern river which is about 1/4 mile away with lots of great fishing. Also Lake Isabella is about 1 mile away. The area has great hiking as well. The town of Lake Isabella is only about 3 miles away and they have all the amenities you could need.

    The event will also be hosting a bicycle swap meet so be sure to pack your extra stuff out there and make a few bucks. Leave the purchasing to me though


    PLANNED ACTIVITIES:


    On one or more of the evening we will be going to the Natural Hot springs. Three different hot tubs butted right up against the Kern River. It's very quiet and extremely peaceful and relaxing. Don’t let MWR sit too close---Rumfpy say's he's trouble

    Saturday night we will be making the 45 minute drive up the scenic Kern River to get the best Fillet Mignon you've ever had!! Trust me on this one!


    ALL THE LINKS YOU NEED:


    KEYESVILLE CLASSIC HOME PAGE:
    http://www.ssfta.com/keyesville.html

    KEYESVILLE VINTAGE BIKE PAGE:
    http://www.ssfta.com/vintage-race.html

    HISTORY OF THE KEYESVILLE MINING AREA:
    http://www.ghosttowns.com/states/ca/keysville.html

    EVERYTHING THE KERN VALLEY OFFERS:
    http://www.kernvalley.net/recreate/valley/exvalleis.htm

    Tell anybody you know about this. I'll try to get a few ol’ timing mountain bike legends to join us. Wouldn't that be fun! I'm going to work on the magazines this year to run an article as well.

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    An eight mile XC race? I may have to reconsider going. The shortest XC race I did "back in the day" was around 22 miles.
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    I don't like laps either unless they are more than 12-15 miles.
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    Quote Originally Posted by shiggy
    An eight mile XC race? I may have to reconsider going. The shortest XC race I did "back in the day" was around 22 miles.
    the people that went last year can tell you how difficult that 8 miles actually is. it's no walk in the park by any means. if you guys think that you want to do 2 laps next year just say the word. i'll hammer out two.

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    Last year was a fun event, and this year should be better. I'm in!!

    As far as pedals go... I'm not sure that I can ride flat pedals off-road. It's been a long time since I've not had clipless in the drit.
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    Quote Originally Posted by shiggy
    I don't like laps either unless they are more than 12-15 miles.
    after the first recorded lap pull of your number and do a few more. i might actually do a second lap myself. i'm actually still kicking around the idea of doing the 8 hour race. maybe you'll be interested in that. should be fun. at every lap you will ride directly alongside our camp.

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    I might have to take a few "practice" rides with my toe flip equipped XC Compes and old Puma or Sidi cross shoes. Looking like a fun weekend.

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    Sorry, afraid I am out. Too far to travel for the event. Have fun without me.

    May have to take the MB-1 to Sea Otter and ride it in the XC.
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    Quote Originally Posted by laffeaux
    As far as pedals go... I'm not sure that I can ride flat pedals off-road. It's been a long time since I've not had clipless in the drit.
    Wuss

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    Quote Originally Posted by shiggy
    Sorry, afraid I am out. Too far to travel for the event. Have fun without me.

    May have to take the MB-1 to Sea Otter and ride it in the XC.
    One monster drive from Oregon - $400 in gas.
    One entry fee for the vintage XC/DH race - $50
    One filet-mignon dinner - $65 (guessing here)
    Seeing veloculture, mwr, rumpfy and laffeaux all chummy in the hot springs - priceless!

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    Quote Originally Posted by ssmike
    One monster drive from Oregon - $400 in gas.
    One entry fee for the vintage XC/DH race - $50
    One filet-mignon dinner - $65 (guessing here)
    Seeing veloculture, mwr, rumpfy and laffeaux all chummy in the hot springs - priceless!

    going purely from my horribly memorry here. i think the 10 oz steak was about $15, the 15 oz steak was about $20, and the 20oz fillet mignon was about $25. really thats just a guess but i remember the prices being extremely affordable and they tasted far better than any $100 steak i've ever had.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ssmike
    Seeing veloculture, mwr, rumpfy and laffeaux all chummy in the hot springs - priceless!
    Dammit! To quote Ken, what happens in Keyesville stays in Keyesville.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Veloculture
    going purely from my horribly memorry here. i think the 10 oz steak was about $15, the 15 oz steak was about $20, and the 20oz fillet mignon was about $25. really thats just a guess but i remember the prices being extremely affordable and they tasted far better than any $100 steak i've ever had.
    I added in the bar tab.

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    Soooo very much looking forward to it.

    I'm in for the 20+ vintage class!
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    Hey Shig...how about another 3 or 4 posts about how the race is too short for you....or what racing formats you don't like...and how it's not worth your time going. That'd be great.


    I know its a long trip down so I understand where you're coming from...but don't be a buzz kill.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Veloculture
    Don’t let MWR sit too close---Rumfpy say's he's trouble
    As long as he's not sitting directly next to me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rumpfy
    Soooo very much looking forward to it.

    I'm in for the 20+ vintage class!
    I'm right there with you brotha! Now i need to choose which bike it'll be. it's a real honor to whatever bike i choose. the other bikes will surely be jealous.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Veloculture
    I'm right there with you brotha! Now i need to choose which bike it'll be. it's a real honor to whatever bike i choose. the other bikes will surely be jealous.
    I wish I had that problem...but I've only got one to choose from! But it's an honorable bike.


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    Last year was a blast and this year is gonna be even better. Make sure you have working brakes cause the XC has some serious downhills I'll be on a Ritchey, not sure what vintage though

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    Quote Originally Posted by kb11
    Last year was a blast and this year is gonna be even better. Make sure you have working brakes cause the XC has some serious downhills I'll be on a Ritchey, not sure what vintage though

    You're doing the 20+ class and you know it!
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    i dont know R, you might just be on a 1986 Slingshot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Veloculture
    i dont know R, you might just be on a 1986 Slingshot.
    I'll bring the cheese

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    Quote Originally Posted by Veloculture
    i dont know R, you might just be on a 1986 Slingshot.
    I sure hope so! I think the Potts is more fitting...but we'll see.
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    Man I want to go so bad, what is the nearest airport? ... none of my bikes are really period correct though. They all have modern brakes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lucifer
    Man I want to go so bad, what is the nearest airport? ... none of my bikes are really period correct though. They all have modern brakes.
    Bakersfield, CA

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    No good Boo. Hiss. [Derogatory hand signal]

    That's the same weekend as AZSF. I really wanted to come. Dammit.

    My "new" stumpy is going to cry like a little girl when she finds out.

    Even though this thread is only two weeks old, Paul had another thread in its place since Dec or so:

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    Quote Originally Posted by lucifer
    Man I want to go so bad, what is the nearest airport? ... none of my bikes are really period correct though. They all have modern brakes.
    like Mike said, Bakersfield is the closest airport with about a 45 minute drive up the mountain.

    i dont care about your stinkin brakes. come out anyway! if it's cheaper for you just ship the bike to my house and i'll bring it to the race for you. airlines are usually about $75 or a bike and Fedex is about $35 all the way across the country.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Veloculture
    like Mike said, Bakersfield is the closest airport with about a 45 minute drive up the mountain.

    i dont care about your stinkin brakes. come out anyway! if it's cheaper for you just ship the bike to my house and i'll bring it to the race for you. airlines are usually about $75 or a bike and Fedex is about $35 all the way across the country.
    That is only if Sky doent sell it 1st

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    shhhhhhhhh! Keep that on the DL.

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    That is only if Sky doent sell it 1st
    dont give away all my secrets!!!

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    Plane tix are $475
    bike shipping $75
    Entry fees and food $150~ = probably not gonna happen this year.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lucifer
    Plane tix are $475
    bike shipping $75
    Entry fees and food $150~ = probably not gonna happen this year.
    try again to LAX. the bakersfield airport is a little dinky. LAX should be cheaper. it only adds an hour and a half to the drive. only $35 to send the bike with Fedex. if you have IMBA membership shipping a bike is free on one of the airlines but i forgot which one.

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    yeah but the bike needs to go both ways... much to your dismay I am sure!
    Unless you are saying fed ex will do GA to CA for 17 bux each way.

    I'll check on LAX.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lucifer
    yeah but the bike needs to go both ways... much to your dismay I am sure!
    Unless you are saying fed ex will do GA to CA for 17 bux each way.

    I'll check on LAX.

    I'll take it home with me and keep it there.
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    looking strong

    i've been sending out e-mails on this and so far it looks like about 25 people have commited. those are only the people that have told me already. it's a little less than two months away so that number will climb. come on people, dust off them bikes!

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    Printing out my race entry right now!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rumpfy
    Printing out my race entry right now!
    Good man Rumpfy!! I havn't even done that yet

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    It's official!

    Okay, I'm 100% officially in for Keyesville!! Today I submitted my time-off request at work for the Friday before and the Monday after the race.

    I can't wait! I'll be riding "sweep" in the XC race, and likely close to it in the DH.

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    I'm doing the vacation request today. You can make the drive from Northern Oregon in one long day or two easy days. Its really nice to get someplace sunny and warm this time of year when you have had rain for a couple of months non-stop. I'm looking forward to Keyesville 2007 when indexed shifting will be legal!

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    Quote Originally Posted by datawhacker
    I'm doing the vacation request today. You can make the drive from Northern Oregon in one long day or two easy days. Its really nice to get someplace sunny and warm this time of year when you have had rain for a couple of months non-stop. I'm looking forward to Keyesville 2007 when indexed shifting will be legal!
    no chance of that Don

    i'm pretty sure we'll keep it the "indexed class" and "non indexed class".


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    So thats different than the 20 year category, since indexing happened in 1987?

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    Quote Originally Posted by datawhacker
    So thats different than the 20 year category, since indexing happened in 1987?
    thats right. we'll half to come up with a different catagory name next year. maybe it will be called the indexed class (1987-1997) and the friction class (1930-1986).

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    i dont know about you guys but i'm getting really excited about this race and preppin the bikes. i'm still back and forth on what bikes i'm taking out but it's fun getting them all ready. i probably wont decide what bikes are going out until i'm loading the truck to drive out there

    do you guys know what you're taking out yet?

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    Probably an Ibis if I can get it properly set up for the 20 year class, and maybe a Ritchey Mt Tam for the downhill. I figure the 18" chainstays have to be good for something.

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    damn thats a good looking Ibis.

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    You better keep an eye on both of those bikes, Don. Those would both fit me nicely

    I'm getting my Salsa back to 1986 vintage and will race that as that's the only bike that qualifies for the 20+ class. I'll bring whatever will fit in the van too.

    And I just registered.

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    I hear you Mike. Most of circa 20 year old stuff has index shifting. And remember, I can ride your bikes too and went home with 2 more than I came with last year.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ssmike
    You better keep an eye on both of those bikes, Don. Those would both fit me nicely

    I'm getting my Salsa back to 1986 vintage and will race that as that's the only bike that qualifies for the 20+ class. I'll bring whatever will fit in the van too.

    And I just registered.
    cool! thanks for registering Mike. i should check with to see how many people are registered. i think i'm going to wait until i get there to register.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Veloculture
    cool! thanks for registering Mike. i should check with to see how many people are registered. i think i'm going to wait until i get there to register.
    I talked to them the other day...my entry form has been received and confirmed!


    It's looking like we'll have a pretty good turn out on that starting line! I'm excited for this!
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    Are you supposed to do the XC and downhill on the same bike, like in the good ol' days?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rumpfy
    I talked to them the other day...my entry form has been received and confirmed!


    It's looking like we'll have a pretty good turn out on that starting line! I'm excited for this!
    Cool-E-O!

    yeah, i've been having fun prepping the bikes for this (too bad my legs aren't prepped). i decided what bike i'm doing the downhill with but i'm not tellin

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    Quote Originally Posted by Veloculture
    Cool-E-O!

    yeah, i've been having fun prepping the bikes for this (too bad my legs aren't prepped). i decided what bike i'm doing the downhill with but i'm not tellin

    MWR makes a good point...whatever it is, better be the same bike you're using in the XC!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rumpfy
    MWR makes a good point...whatever it is, better be the same bike you're using in the XC!
    dont you worry your little heads. the bike for the downhill will be slower than the bike for the cross country. trust me. i just want get two bikes out of the garage. it's not like i have a secret weapon or anything.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Veloculture
    dont you worry your little heads. the bike for the downhill will be slower than the bike for the cross country. trust me. i just want get two bikes out of the garage. it's not like i have a secret weapon or anything.

    Ok...but they better both be older than 20 years!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rumpfy
    Ok...but they better both be older than 20 years!

    Don't think for a second we won't call a rules infraction on your ass!
    I may or may not race I kinda twicked my thumb. Its all swelled up and I couldnt hang on now. We'll see in a few weeks. If not, I can be da judge

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    Quote Originally Posted by kb11
    I may or may not race I kinda twicked my thumb. Its all swelled up and I couldnt hang on now. We'll see in a few weeks. If not, I can be da judge

    No, I'm afraid that's not correct. You're racing.

    If we leave you alone with all the bikes while we're out on the course...the entire camp will be cleared out by the time we get back...nothing but tumbleweed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kb11
    I may or may not race I kinda twicked my thumb. Its all swelled up and I couldnt hang on now. We'll see in a few weeks. If not, I can be da judge
    there is abolutely no way you're not racing Ken. racers didn't sissy out like that. boy, i can tell you stories of races i did with all kinds of injuries.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kb11
    Hummmm, your full of good idea's Rumpfy I better bring a trailer

    Damn!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rumpfy
    No, I'm afraid that's not correct. You're racing.

    If we leave you alone with all the bikes while we're out on the course...the entire camp will be cleared out by the time we get back...nothing but tumbleweed.
    Hummmm, your full of good idea's Rumpfy I better bring a trailer

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    oh, you wont need to worry about that. newest one in 1984. the only things not period correct are the tires and pedals.

    i tried to run platforms the other day and my feel were fyling off the pedals all over the place. i'm not about to start running caged pedals after all these years so clipless it is. sorry, i dont have health insurance so i'm not going to risk it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Veloculture
    oh, you wont need to worry about that. newest one in 1984. the only things not period correct are the tires and pedals.

    i tried to run platforms the other day and my feel were fyling off the pedals all over the place. i'm not about to start running caged pedals after all these years so clipless it is. sorry, i dont have health insurance so i'm not going to risk it.

    Oh yeah...I'm running clipless pedals for sure! But they are first gen 737's.
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    almost there.

    alright folks. just a week and a half away! it sounds like out camp is going to be very large. good thing we'll have a camp about the size of 4 football fields

    as you enter the race area just follow the signs i'll have posted leading you to the area we will be camping. out campground is in an open field in the forest away from the comotion of the race and other campers. it's a really cool spot. plut it is right near the race course which is pretty cool.

    there will be crappers there but thats it. bring your own chairs, tables, food, beer and whatever else. the town with restraunts and grocery stores are about 10 minuts away so yo can do your shopping up there if you like. feel free to bring me chocolate . whatever you do dont show up with PBR or any other cheap beer. there will be a lot of beer snobs in our camp. there will be kids there too so you dont want to set a bad example to them with cheap beer.

    Friday night we're going to hit the narutal hot springs. Sat night we'll be going to Mcnally's steak house (best fillet mignon ever). i'll probably head back to the hot springs Sunday evening as well.

    we might have a drunken vintage style trials course too if things work out right. we should be able to do that right in our campsite.

    i'll be there Thursday though Monday morning.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Veloculture
    alright folks. just a week and a half away! it sounds like out camp is going to be very large. good thing we'll have a camp about the size of 4 football fiel......... might have a drunken vintage style trials course too if things work out right. we should be able to do that right in our campsite.
    I'm so syched!


    We'll be there about 3ish (give or take some time) on Friday, leaving, Sunday afternoon, post festivities.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rumpfy
    I'm so syched!


    We'll be there about 3ish (give or take some time) on Friday, leaving, Sunday afternoon, post festivities.
    right on!

    oh, and i will have 2 different professional photographers there as well that will be camping with us. should make for some great shots.

    Bike Magazine is talking about covering the event and possibly even having Keith Bontrager write the story! hopefully that works out. even if KB doesn't write the story they want the story. i might even write it up.

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    Will KB be there?
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    dont know for sure but Keith told me he always does this race. he only missed last year because he was sick. Bike Magazine is going to check with him to be sure though.

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    oh hey, bring firewood for the community fire pit!

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    I'll bring the marshmellows

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    I'm sure we'll be making a store run on Friday.
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    So I'm getting out my bikes, and getting them ready for Keyesville. There's not a lot of prep, but I'm swapping tires, making sure they shift into most of their gears, etc. I'm getting excited now!!

    I'm not using vintage lube. Is that okay?
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    Quote Originally Posted by laffeaux
    I'm not using vintage lube. Is that okay?
    Um, you're still talking about bikes, right?

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    I think hes referring to the hot springs activities

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    I'm going to go back to working on my bikes, and withdrawl from any attempts to communicate with people now.
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    Note to self: Keep distance between self and Ken in hot springs.

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    almost ready to head down

    here is the x country bike. Not sure if I'll have a different downhill bike

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    thats awesome! i love that bike. people are going to be shocked when you ride though the Snake Pit part of the DH on that thing!

    what kind of hubs are those?

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    We'll see about the snakepit.

    The hubs are Shimano bolt-on Deore XT (HB-MN72)

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    Quote Originally Posted by datawhacker
    We'll see about the snakepit.

    The hubs are Shimano bolt-on Deore XT (HB-MN72)

    the Snake Pit is sometimes faster on foot than on the bike. for the sake of the bike running it might actually be best just in case you bailed and planted the bike into the rocks. it's not as scarry as it sounds though. the Snake Pit is only 100 feet long.

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    OK ladies, i'm headed off in a few hours to relax and chill before the race up in the woods.

    again, once you enter the race area just follow the signs that say "vintage camp".

    peace out my homies

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    Wow Don! That looks great. Cant wait to see it.

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