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    1998 Kinesis Downhill - Finsished overhauling today!

    Here it tis!
    1997/1998 custom build Kinesis Frame
    Maguras, bombers, mrp chainguard, rst rear shock, 7 speed, 44t chainring, 11-32 cassette ratio, high rish bars
    Kept as original as possible in the recent work been done.

    Whaddayiz think!?



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    That it is a nice example of an ugly bike. But I am glad you are happy with it!
    A bike by any other name is still a bike.

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    dude, only a loser who doesn't know anything about bikes would make a comment like that. was expecting a bit better on this forum.

    whats your issue with it exactly?

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    Let's keep it civil gentlemen.

    Do recall, opinions are like, well, you know.

    Get all bent about some individuals opinion, and you just make the hyenas hungrier....

    You're new. It's all good. Bikes of this vintage, while oldish, only appeal to a small sub set of the folks who hang here. Simply accept that, and the variety of thoughts you'll get about it, and things will go swimmingly!

    Me? Cool bike, nice effort, enjoy it, but DH bikes aren't really my bag, save some of the funkier stuff from say, Brooklyn, Balfa etc, and even then, they aren't bikes I'd ride other than for a blast around the parking lot.

    It's all about the story behind it, the passion you have for it, and more detailed pics of the cooler aspects. This is a passion forum, not just show and minimal tell.

    And do recall, you said, "Whaddayiz think!?".....
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    Someone puts together a road racing bike, or a bmx and posts a picture of it - I'm not gonna comment, cause I'm not into those bikes, so its pointless.

    I'm posting in 'Vintage, retro, classic' on a mountain bike forum, so it seems to be the right place

    Constructive criticism is always welcome, being a knob isn't

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    Quote Originally Posted by ivanm View Post
    being a knob isn't
    Name calling will get you nowhere in here, relax and chat with whomever you like, or don't.

    I already alluded to this in my previous post, last time I'm going to mention it....
    This is a Pugs not some carbon wannabee pretzel wagon!!

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    you're missing the point of what I'm saying though? don't be so quick to jump into moderator mode.

    what i got from the guy was not an opinion, it was an insult, an opinion is 'i dont really like that colourscheme' or 'its not the bike for me'
    an insult is - 'thats a nice example of an ugly bike'

    don't expect a civilized response to an uncivilized comment, thats being a a tad unrealistic.

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    You're new, so I'm assuming you haven't lurked here for years, if you have, then you'd know what I'm angling at, and we wouldn't be having this conversation.

    Folks around here express themselves, pretty freely, and we, the mods, tend to let it ride within reason (name calling and personal attacks are the line in the sand so to speak). To crush all opinion, makes for a very boring, snoozy, overly moderated lovefest of useless drivel (oh Jimmy, your dog poo covered Ross with bent wheels is AWESOME!!!!). If you take the good with the bad, it works out just fine.

    If you get all jammed up when someone doesn't like your bike, it spins out of control pretty fast.

    Been there, seen that (many times), just trying to help you learn the lay of the land is all.....
    This is a Pugs not some carbon wannabee pretzel wagon!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by ivanm View Post
    dude, only a loser who doesn't know anything about bikes would make a comment like that. was expecting a bit better on this forum.
    whats your issue with it exactly?
    The main issue is that it's an ugly f'ing bike. He's right. The other issue is that it's barely VRC.

    Quote Originally Posted by ivanm View Post
    Constructive criticism is always welcome, being a knob isn't
    Constructive criticism for ya. Don't get offended so easily.

    Quote Originally Posted by ivanm View Post
    don't be so quick to jump into moderator mode.
    Ya MCS....don't be so quick to help this guy out!
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    Constructive criticism #1: The wheel QRs are on the wrong side.
    Constructive criticism #2: Tire logos are not aligned with the valve stems.
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    Housing is long.
    Seek: Koski Trailmaster. Breezer Series 2, or 3. Fillet brazed Ibis Custom. Cunningham Racer. Otis Guy (but not that softride model). That's all I need I don't need anything else... except... except for an old Mountain Goat bar stem combo. And that's all I need. I don't need anything else. Except.....

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    Not of my doing, but apparently the hyenas have been unleashed, hence, my prior suggestions (and I was only trying to help, not bag on you)......

    Hoping for the best, but predicting a lockdown.
    This is a Pugs not some carbon wannabee pretzel wagon!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by MendonCycleSmith View Post
    apparently the hyenas have been unleashed
    goodness, you mean the forum grannies?

    cable housing - got it sorted already
    qr's - doesn't matter, been biking for years dude
    tyre logos - are you joking?

    I was looking to talk to bikers, whats goin on?

    I'm getting a feeling for how this forum works.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rumpfy View Post
    The main issue is that it's an ugly f'ing bike. He's right.
    Dude, again, whats the point of this? You gotta be able to actually say something other then 'its an ugly bike'
    Is it the frame you don't like? -a solid Kinesis mtb frame
    Forks? - could have sworn they were/are some of the bestselling forks around
    Magura brakes? Swingarm?
    I mean, to say that its ugly without anything else shows the mental level you're working at. And that all you're doing is jumping on the bandwagon

    Quote Originally Posted by Rumpfy View Post
    The other issue is that it's barely VRC.
    Ok, so what is it? Up to date? : D

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    The forum regulars here (and most of the true vintage MTB community) are interested in bikes far older than that. There's nothing really vintage about it. Being DH specific is another nail in the VRC coffin. I also think it's hideous.

    retrobike.co.uk is where you need to go to find some like-minded people who will stroke you about that bike.


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    Quote Originally Posted by ivanm View Post
    qr's - doesn't matter, been biking for years dude
    tyre logos - are you joking?
    are you joking?
    definitely fix the QR, it will take you a minute and just about anyone can notice that. fix it or it looks lazy.
    you're supposed to set the logos by the valve stem; nothing new.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ameybrook View Post
    The forum regulars here (and most of the true vintage MTB community) are interested in bikes far older than that. There's nothing really vintage about it. Being DH specific is another nail in the VRC coffin. I also think it's hideous.
    Not looking for any strokes dude, maybe your into that, I was trying to find bikers who knew their stuff?

    When you say theres nothing retro, vintage, or classic about it, what planet are you on?
    I brought it to the trails yesterday and the guys who worked in the bikeshop hadn't ever seen hydraulic rim brakes. Thats the current generation of bikers.
    They didn't know bikes were made with nylon bushes years ago.
    Thats just to give you an example, its in no way a modern (post 2000) bike.

    And to say its hideous, dude. You're not insulting me at all? So don't think that gets to me.
    I've had loads of bikes, and even just seen countless bikes, with different colourschemes and rigs, and sure I mightn't be that into them, but calling them hideous is a bit dumb, and shows your getting offended like the others here
    You're not into a colourscheme, fair enough, thats about all you can say about this bike?

    When you say most of the true vintage mtb community, are you joking? You're arrogance is showing

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    Quote Originally Posted by ehigh View Post
    you're supposed to set the logos by the valve stem; nothing new.
    FYI there's a reason for doing this. Not just aesthetic / OCD behavior.


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    Kinda laughing here.
    For all those wannabes saying its ugly/hideous, why not post a few photos of bikes from this era you consider nice? Or a few of your own bikes?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ivanm View Post
    Why not post a few photos of bikes from this era you consider nice? Or a few of your own bikes?
    Nothing like that ever happens here. Ever.


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    Quote Originally Posted by ehigh View Post
    are you joking?
    definitely fix the QR, it will take you a minute and just about anyone can notice that. fix it or it looks lazy.
    you're supposed to set the logos by the valve stem; nothing new.
    Which side should the quick release lever be on a mtb with front discs? - Yahoo! UK & Ireland Answers

    Does side matter? (Front axle quick release)

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    Quote Originally Posted by ameybrook View Post
    Nothing like that ever happens here. Ever.
    cool? just post a few links?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ivanm View Post
    qr's - doesn't matter, been biking for years dude
    tyre logos - are you joking?

    I was looking to talk to bikers, whats goin on?
    There are some things on a (well assembled) bicycle that are expected and have been for decades, including Q/R levers on the non-drive side and tire labels lined up with the valve stem. These aren't some arbitrary code the people on this forum came up with, they're well known throughout cycling in all disciplines. Sure you can still ride your bike without following them, but don't expect to be taken seriously by other cyclists (FYI, "bikers" ride motorcycles), especially a group that collects and restores vintage bikes. You might get away with ignoring the details on the DH/Freeride forum, but the VRC forum isn't a bunch of ADHD teenage bro's.

    edit: Your bike obviously doesn't have disk brakes, tradition and the general consensus says that the Q/R goes on the non-drive side.

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    Here's a starter, by no means all encompassing......
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    Cool?
    Not into the last one, bit plain.
    2nd one - Like the brooks saddle, not mad about the colour scheme
    and first ones cool enough?

    completely different type of bikes to what I've got, doesn't bother me though?
    have you got any photos of suspension mtb's that you think are nice? as opposed to hideous/ugly

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